Thread: Did anybody made "No Gambling" for this year's resolution? Any cash business?

hello everyone did anybody stop gambling this year or from last year??

I am very sure you guys feel great about and saved lots of money....

well, i was talking to my friend one day about gambling and his relative was having gambling problem....

well, i am one of them also.....

well, why table game doesn't make sense??? well, it is simple MOST of us can not win in long term period...

well, i was one of many unfortunately.... see we have to remember in order to save money or come up with consistent money, we are not allow to lose more than we gain.. otherwise we can not pay the bill....

well, so... let' say i win $1000 Monday, but i lose $300 next 5 days then i lost all the money plus losing money....

and even I win $20,000.. so what???? people did you know most people who win big money are betting big.. you rarely see someone bring $100 and turn that into $20,000 i will not say never but what's the chance???

anyhow.. gambling did not bring consistent money PERIOD..

okay second subject... do you guys do any side business will bring solid money???

like me collecting Coin did pretty okay.. not a lot but never lose it...

Anything you guys do???

thank you...

Joker, i stopped for almost a month because i had 6 consecutive losing streak!
But today, i came back and the house got me again...Hahaha
Luckily, i work so the next paycheck will cover my loss

Joker, since you quit playing baccarat, have you ever had itches to go back and play again?

Simpleton, thank you for great post...

well, yes and no... well, i do miss the those environment of casino.. sound and excitement and people.. i met good friend there actually..... including dealers...

well, but again life goes on.. i can't spend rest of life there...

again, for me.. thinking logically prevent me to go there.... well, Simpleton if you did not lose that money... you could have gone to great dinner pronbably more than 20 times... i would assume...

you could have done something better with that money.... maybe you put into safe investment... etc...

well, again.. even you won $10,000 so what??? you will be in casino next 24 hours and lose pretty soon anyway.. who will stop going after winning $10,000? most of us try to double that money and lose again.....

And ultimately, $10,000 will never make you live without work forever..

So, after thinking about all these things.... I don't miss or try to put money on table again... exchange the money to something useful... I would say saving is the best way to go.....

Work hard and make lots of money and save it... if you do not gamble your bank account will go up really fast....

losing $1000, 2000 is easy at casino... and after 10 years it is $200,000 wow...
it adds up.. people forget about past losing but you have to remember it adds up......

that's the most scary part of life... even small money can adds up in long long term....

I recently canceled expensive cel phone.. i was paying about $80 per month.. it is $960 a month.. now i get this prepaid phone $15 a month... it is $180 a month.. wow.. saved $780... that's big... a year can make huge
different and people really do not think this way......

try stop gambling for 1 month and see how your account changes..
this is how you do....
if you go casino routinely do this...
1) if you were gong to casino with $300... just put that money to bank or place to somewhere...
2) next time you are thinking casino do that same..
3) after you repeat this.. you save $1500.....

actually this wok in other stuff also......
say you wanted to go out to eat.. go home right away and eat something.. then it's over.. no need to go out and eat....

joker.... you sound like you want to take your money with you into the next world

Lighten up and have some fun man!!

What sort of woman want's a cheapskate?

Answer: The wife... lol.

Again you can have fun....but losing $100,000 isn't fun to me... there are so many way you can have fun and actually you can have expensive fun
when you don't gamble.. that' my point... and when you need the money and you don't... then how would you feel?
when you need money for medicare ... but you don't.. how would you feel?
Are you able to have fun??? You can be say " oh i am allright.. i will win the money at casino today"
I would say having personal security in my mind is also fun for me....
Saving money is fun for me.. because it bring me the safety and eventually when i want to have fun i can.. maybe i will enjoy my great retirement
people do not notice if you gamble over 10 years you are burning all the retirement money... did you know???
most of people here "active players" average losing all total is almost over $300,000... or more.... i had this lady met at casino long time ago
told me lost over 1 million over the years of gambling and this great gentlemen told me if i did not gamble i could have 100 girl friend and 100 houses...
Again i would not say have fun.. again i was gambler and yes it is fun to gamble, but whole thing just doesn't make sense.. i mean you win $1000 so what??
your chance of losing is a lot higher.. you can lose $500 in second... i would rather use $500 for something else...
I mean you can have great dinner with $100.. that's not bad... $100 is so cheap compare to losing $1000's at casino....

I mean if I can win the game consitently and I would be very happy to play, but after all the traveling to casino and studying and thinking. actually it is not worth it..
how many people here think about gambling all day long? and thinking about system?

My point is you can save lots of money not playing gambling and you can still have fun doing something else and it's cheaper...
Find the hobby bring better income.....

Joker, seems to me that you're searching for more meaning to life other than gambling and feeding the "beast" casinos. So you're now an anti-gambling advocate. What about in your own life Joker? There are things more important than money. Someone once told me that your mind is the strongest muscle and love is the strongest of all emotions. Love, Power, Wisdom, And Justice, those 4 qualities and in that exact order. These are the qualities that make life fulfilling and it's in every human being. Search them out and see what you find in yourself. If you hone these I can guarantee you that the universe will be opened to you literally.

well thing is simple.. i am not searching anything... money isn't just everything i know that..

but losing $100,000 at casino is stupidest thing you can do in your life...

i am just giving you the system which can make you profit at it......

believe me if i were making consistent profit at casino i will be still at casino table believe me....

i don't mind the smoking environment.. stress from work is much more unhealthy......lol

i just hate to see Casino taking people's money for nothing... i mean yes it is your decision. but just i hate it....

Originally Posted by Joker

believe me if i were making consistent profit at casino i will be still at casino table believe me....

i don't mind the smoking environment.. stress from work is much more unhealthy......lol

i just hate to see Casino taking people's money for nothing... i mean yes it is your decision. but just i hate it....

What's this Joker? Work is unhealthy now? Smoke is better. Wage slaves and slow savers are idiots who will die faster possibly from being over stressed from work. Seems like Joker the "anti-gambling advocate" is contradicting himself. Where is that winning method? Joker needs to settle the score and break his new year's resolution

That's right Joker, I find your post giving light to people but I can still see your thirst to go back to Casino. LOL

Maybe you can enlighten us how you collect golds, that make slow but steady money.

Btw when was your last time you gamble?

Sure again i might contradict myself.. i still like gambling.. but i do not like the fact will never win...
why bother go if i have no chance to win and ultimately no chance to get the money i lost......

People if you did lose more than $10,000 at casino and trying to get back, you should quite you just gonna make bigger holes

well, how many people here did actually made profit last year from casino??? i mean real profit which pays the bill and etc.... again i won't say 0 but i am very sure not many.....

I just give common sense here i mean just gambling doesn't make sense.. it is not going to make you money....
yes i can be fun, but you should not be burning money and small money can turn into big money... it is dangerous ....

i have not gamble for almost over a year or so...... i have no desire to go back or think about system anymore i have done that enough... i looked up so many system and thought about system and i wasted time big time....

try
1) calculate how much you have lost at casino
2) calculate time you have spend at casino or thinking about gambling
3) calculate the food and transportation you used for casino...


About Coin collection.. i do not collect gold, i collect silver... i try to find the circulation silver....
well, one thing I already made steady money from this and great thing about this is I never lose...
it only goes up... Gambling... you never know what's coming tomorrow.....

Again.. if you still want to play gamble, i have no way to stop it but you are playing the game which will never bring the money back to you in long run... people say "at least i am having fun" yes i can be.. but after 10 years will you think that way after losing $100,000??? how would you feel if you have $100,000 in your account???

quitting gambling is quite easy if you common sense... again you have to consider consistency...
people think Bank or Player can be easy to win.. just like 50% chance of win, but again you actually will not win huge with way... unless you bet $100,000 to get $100,000.....
how could be tun $5000, to $100,000? with 50/50 game??? well, again even you win $100,000 believe me most will go back and trying to win more and more and next thing you know it's gone.....

when you win the money at casino ( i call easy money) and goes out easy also..... we really have to know the human nature of it.... when we are hungry we eat..... when you win money at casino it goes out easy, but if you work hard and earn money you won't let go easy.. see this is how life work or this is how humans are programed...

and all we know, when we lose we lose huge and when we win we win small.. again this is human nature which it is very hard to beat... two thing it is hard to beat.. house edge, and plus human emotion at casino......

better stay away....

Originally Posted by Joker

hello everyone did anybody stop gambling this year or from last year?

No.

Originally Posted by ADulay

No.

Watch Joker repeat his therapeutic mantra to the class again

Joker, i agree completely what you are saying. Baccarat is a hard game to beat and it is even harder to beat consistently year over year.

However, from reading comments and members sharing experiences on this board, i think some people are actually winning which is good.

Personally, i had no luck

Exactly!!!! see i am happy those who are beating Casino.. i am very happy to see people taking their money away....

Just like you Simple I am one of those majority did not beat casino.....unfortunately....

well, again if you are having fun and espcially winning and that's awesome.. but my point is be careful not get into huge trouble.....

I believe there are much more easier money to make than going casino...again for most people...

i really wonder how many people actually made consistent profit by playing baccarat after playing for over 10 years... i mean that's so amazing and respectful.....

okay think simple logic now... let's say your friend flip the coin, head or tail... and without any progressive system... how long can we stay on top?? i mean can we be 200 win 5 loss?? and it can be 1000 win 20 loss ? well, unless you can predict what is coming it will be hard to be really ahead

so would any educated guess or system will work??? it can be.... but in order to get ahead, i do believe that you need to see the simple pattern... like BBBBBBBB BPBPBPBP and when this happen you need to win a lot... like you double up as you win and etc... I believe lose small and win big is way to go.. but it is easier to say than done.... well, if that easy then i will be still playing lol....

anyhow.... i will look more silvers... about $10,000 profit now.... not bad....can't lose this... it takes lots of work though.. there is no free lunch.......

Joker, just curious when you played baccarat how much did you buyin, average?

Members here mentioned you must have a big bankroll to offset losses.

When i go to the casino i bring $500 and when i am down it is hard to me to win my money back.

Maybe this is why i am not winning.

What do you think?

Originally Posted by Laugh

Joker, seems to me that you're searching for more meaning to life other than gambling and feeding the "beast" casinos. So you're now an anti-gambling advocate. What about in your own life Joker? There are things more important than money. Someone once told me that your mind is the strongest muscle and love is the strongest of all emotions. Love, Power, Wisdom, And Justice, those 4 qualities and in that exact order. These are the qualities that make life fulfilling and it's in every human being. Search them out and see what you find in yourself. If you hone these I can guarantee you that the universe will be opened to you literally.

Joker, Laugh,

after reading both your posts, i feel compelled to share my 2 cents worth of opinions; well, although i do generally agree with what Joker has written so far I must add that some people who “gambles” do not see themselves as gambling but as “investor”, “trader” or high risk taker like in any business investment…..in any business investment there are bound to meet with possible failures…. But who dare say NOT a single baccarat “investor” make money consistently, even if you exclude banned members; Bryan or maybe Ellis. To make money in the long run from baccarat is not easy, everyone knows that, it is simply a “dream” from the man in the street. The question is how to make that dream come true.

Dun be mistaken, I am definitely not a pro-gambling or baccarat advocate….but I divide bac “investor” into 2 extreme basic groups :a) the learned player, and the other extreme; b) ignorant player…. The learned player knows the risk involved, the odds, the maths, have good MM skills, decent BS etc..and he can afford to lose..(but of cause not all learned players will win in the long run)........ the ignorant player on the other hand just want fast cash and thinking of winning a million$$ or two by betting base on gut feel or using some rigid mechanical “holy grail” systems which do not exist since time immemorial….because if it exists then law of the universe would have ceased to apply OR baccarat will be removed from casinos. I think all players should consciously and seriously think about this statement, reflect on it, digest it then decide whether to continue with the venture.

I believe that the only way to win in the long run comprise not only bac skills but also some other spiritual elements, which I am also learning and trying to grasp. By testing a mechanical systems with hundreds or thousands of shoes are basically useless because COMMON SENSE cannot be programmed into a system…and u precisely need that “common sense” to beat the game in the long haul.

Laugh brought up a very interesting point though; about how to make life fulfilling and the 4 key qualities related to it. Well, I interpret that as, as long as you are able to possess these 4 qualities, u would be able to break free from any kind of struggle/stress….then probably u can be a long term winner in the casino…hee hee J

I always believe it’s not always about what u do in the casino to win, but also what u do outside the casino. Macau Casino tycoon Stanley Ho once said:”not all gamblers lost in the casinos, the problem is those people who won spend on vice activities, come back again to gamble and lost everything and some more, so if you win donate some to charity”…….it’s up to u to interpret what message he is conveying.


Personally I am still in the learning process…I wish that one day I can be the top 1% tat win $$$ consistently.

If anyone is seriously thinking about making $$$ from bac, please do proper research, exercise due diligence/ strong discipline and good money management and cultivate good karma, you could possibly be the handful who win consistently in casino…. I wish u best of luck!!!.

“Act as if it were impossible to fail”.: Dorothea Brande


Jim

hello Jimning thank you very much for great post.. it is wonderful.. thank you

Simple.. my bankroll?? lol.. well, my bankroll was really small.. like less than $100, well, but you know when you lose control you go home and get money and lose more... or i used to use progressive system and that got me big time....

well, problem of gambling is that testing is so different from actual play.. i mean all kind of stuff is going.... i mean, actual dealer, floor man, player, noise, cocktail lady.. i mean everything.. it is so different from test

Another logical idea.... I believe there are more lottery winner than those who win money consistently from baccarat.. or make great living out of playing baccarat....

Yes there are many many losers who lost millions of money.. or lots of money including myself... those are Normal ones.....
just like buy lottery and did not win it.. that's natural right???

Joker, that was what thought. I brought too little money and was too scared to bet more when it was the right time.Like one member said you must have a big bankroll and good money management to out ahead.Some people think bringing a few hundred and then double it or make a some money is not going to happen.

Originally Posted by Joker

hello Jimning thank you very much for great post.. it is wonderful.. thank you

Simple.. my bankroll?? lol.. well, my bankroll was really small.. like less than $100, well, but you know when you lose control you go home and get money and lose more... or i used to use progressive system and that got me big time....

well, problem of gambling is that testing is so different from actual play.. i mean all kind of stuff is going.... i mean, actual dealer, floor man, player, noise, cocktail lady.. i mean everything.. it is so different from test

Another logical idea.... I believe there are more lottery winner than those who win money consistently from baccarat.. or make great living out of playing baccarat....

Yes there are many many losers who lost millions of money.. or lots of money including myself... those are Normal ones.....
just like buy lottery and did not win it.. that's natural right???

Joker,

Haha..."lottery" and "baccarat": very interesting analogy .... the only major difference is that bac is likely to kill you softly and slowly..every bet you place, you have high hope to win it..but for lottery, naturally people more or less expect to lose like u said, becoz it is small money to win big money...........also see my post at => Killing "me" softly with baccarat

Good luck

Jim

Hello Jim and Simple thank you for great post...

well, i do not want to break people's dream , but if you have desire to make living by playing casino game then you should take poker game...

there are many people have witnessed huger winner... but you have to remember their initial betting is pretty high....

baccarat isn't the way to make consistent money... i mean how can you come up with $4000 a month consistently???

gamnbling will be like you win $10,000 January and lose $2000 in February.. well, it will never be like $4000 a month every single month....

it will be very hard to manage the account this way....

Joker, thanks for your enlighten message and love. If 10% members listen to you by the end of the year they could buy

everyone on this forum an IPAD 3 for this year Christmas.

But since this is a place where people help each others to win i guess it is unappropriate.

Exactly!!!! this is place where help each other to WIN and not play baccarat make you winner....

Why not play with FAKE MONEY at home.. or you use real bit AT HOME with friend and give money back at the end or something..

Well, we can do the survey.. who made most last year.. for example I did not make any but did not lose any so 0.....

you will be surprise i will be pretty high in list since many are negative after the end of the year....

Again this is winning system.. i am trying to explain... I enjoy coming out here.. which is free.. i like to read other post and look the system is free.. but not matter what I can or You may not be able to get on top by playing this game....

Sort of scientifically or mathematically proven that we can not beat this game in long run or most of us dream about making living out of this.. i mean just can not be done.. when was the last time we won $4000 at the end of month??? and can you imagine you have to do it again??? again and again and again.. that's more than tough....

This is biggest winning system as it get.......

Joker,baccarat could be beaten in a short run with big bankroll

You ever think of cashing in your coins and double your

money?u

Yes short run.. but not in long run... hope many will realize that.. do something else.....

about coin??? well, i would like to hold on to it... never know silver might reach $60 per oz again... then i will change
but since i get them with Face value and they are so pretty i rather keep it....

Well I didn't resolve to give up gambling this year but I did give it up for awhile last year. I stopped going for about 4 months. And before that I only went a few times in a year. Why? Because, like Joker says, losing is NOT fun. I lost all the time, and I wasn't trying for big scores. I would bring $2000 to the casino, try and win a few hundred, and end up losing it all. Month after month, for years.

But since "taking a break" I've managed to save up some money and get a different perspective. I was able to save $25,000 and invest that at 4% interest. No, it's not sexy, but it is way better than being broke. This money is now "off limits". I refuse to gamble with it.

I went to the casino a few days ago, and quickly found myself down $900. I managed a nice streak in baccarat and I got back my loss, and left up $200. Not sexy, but it's a win.

I've also been watching my expenses, trying to save.

I will go a few more times, hoping to win a few dollars here, a few dollars there, but payday comes at the end of the month and I'm considering locking away all my money. Or I will take my chances throughout February and lock it all away come March. Once the money is locked, it's gone. I'm not gambling with it.

Why? I will be 40 years old and all I have to my name is about $40,000. Before I was a gambling fool, not thinking about my future. I do not want to be 50 years old and broke. What happens if I lose my job? If my next job pays very little? With this economy, it's possible.

So, yes, like Joker, I am a gambler. It is in my blood. And so I will take chances here and there, but first and foremost, making sure I have money for retirement is number one.

My goal is to have $50,000 saved and locked away by the end of summer. By the end of 2013, my goal is to have $115,000 saved and locked away. I don't have a wife, I don't have children, I don't have a mortgage. Just me. Having this safety net, let's me know I'll be okay. I can find a way to get by.

But being broke and aging. That's not smart.

Don't let baccarat destroy your future.

hello there nomoreloser ... you got that right... right now keep saving up the money.. nothing is too late.. the moment you realize gambling isn't the way then you will be fine....

saving up the money isn't that difficult IF you can cut down the spending... Simple right???

See Nomorloser if you did not gamble at all, you would have more than $100,000 in account today... for sure....

See.. this is off topic but not only gambling but anything cost, you should cut down.. well, let's say you are in relationship just cost too much then you should get out.. actually i went though that... it is not worth it..

Again, people learn the lessons in life in hard way.. but key is are we able to fix it????

People talk about Money Management is key for winning... Actually this is key for our life PERIOD.. Money management.. how much can we use to have fun... how much do we make a month??? how much can we save a month??? etc.. it is a Money Management...

Some say why not enjoy the life by going out and spend money... sure you can do that but after you put money away.. just like finish homework before you go have fun....

Having solid plan is the KEY..Yes it takes lots of discipline but it is worth doing it...

joker, i read your earlier posts. you said you lost about 10,000 in 2 years thats pretty good considering other people lost more in the same period.

also you mentioned you gambed in your 20s what game did you played and why did you switched to baccarat?

prolly it was 50/50, right?

well, it is a long story.....

i never believe in gambling before.. never.. my father was gambler and my mother told me he lost his fortune on gambling.. i never like gambling.. but one day this person introduced me gambler.. He said this person never lose.. Well, long story short, i brought $5000 to casino.. and let him play.. and this was happen to be Baccarat... well, first time we made even.. well, i should have stopped here.. in fact he lied that he always wins... Then i went to second time then lost all.. well, did he give me my money back??? of course not... He name is Tony or something.. This Chinese guy.. if you come cross this person or who approaches you to play the game for you then do not do it...

Then my journey started.. of course i wanted to get my money back so stated playing.. and after say about 2 years lost about $20K.... or maybe more.. well good think i stopped.. i could have lost lots more.....

well, i played other game also.. roulette, sports... etc.. well, if i think about it.. if I could go back to the time.. i would definitely touch casino game... well, happy now i am not doing it.. i come here and write post doesn't hurt me a lot.. i enjoy it....it is free.. and i can help others to save up their money.....

oh by the way i found few more silver coins... another profit for me.....

joker, i am sorry what had happened to you. When you go to casino a lot you can find a lot of these type of people, con artists.

They talk like they are experts but in gambling there are no such thing.

Hello there thank you for the post.....

well, funny thing about casino is following...

1) even we lose, we don't mind losing.. we think we can get it back....
2) losing $500 one night feels nothing... i mean concept of Amount of money changes at casino....
I mean $500 in real life is so much.. i mean it covers so much stuff.....
3) Since money change to Chip they really lose the value of money...


well, today i was driving one street full of car dealers... i was looking the price while i was driving..
good Lexus car is like under $20,000.. i was saying man, i wish i have bought that instead of donating money to casino..
i mean someone people sends money on certain thing but very cheap on other stuff.. i think they are very smart...
but if you spends a lot on casino and cheap on other stuff then you are stupid this doesn't make sense......

Spending money on house , Car, or education is good thing because it will pay off later.... in a long run it is a good thing... for example.. if you buy cheap cars like $4000.. well, it might keep breaking down and cause so much trouble and end up paying more than $10,000 or more.... so if you think about it better just buy better car from the start.. and rich people are smart and they know how to do that....