Thread: Partnership

Should this be posted here or in the "shooting the breeze section"? If this is the wrong section, mods, feel free to move it.

I have a great method, but, lack the bankroll. My bankroll is so limited, it's sad. But my method is great! I can't afford to go play all the time, or use any worthwhile bankroll, so I'm looking to partner up with anyone willing to do so. I go to the atlantic city casinos. Some stats on my method? I tested it against 500 shoes, and it makes about 1-4 units per shoe. Flat betting completely. Total lifetime bankroll? 6 units. Biggest draw down at any given time? 3 units. This is playing entirely through all 500 shoes. Never loses a shoe. Not based on streaks, chops, twos, threes, or anything like that. Partnership offer? You bring your bankroll (obviously some decent sized number), we sit at the table together. I have my small little bankroll ($100), using $15 bets I have 7 units. You bet where ever I bet with my bankroll, with your bankroll. At the end of the day, you give me 50% of your winnings. We can do it as often as anyone would like, or of course, until I make enough where I don't need a partner.

Pm me if interested.

How frequently do you place a bet?

if ya method don't work, will ya refund 50% of me losses? I no you will tell me it does work, but if it don't, any refund?

Vampire,

1. Uh, go to the bank and take out a loan.
2. Go play and win lots of money.
3. Pay back loan within 60 days and get it at zero interest. (Free borrowed money!)
4. Completely eliminate the "need" for a partner to steal your world beating baccarat system.

AD

I place a bet fairly often. The method works, there will be no need to refund any money. If I thought there was a way the bankroll would bust? I would not post here looking for a partner.

Originally Posted by ADulay

Vampire,

1. Uh, go to the bank and take out a loan.
2. Go play and win lots of money.
3. Pay back loan within 60 days and get it at zero interest. (Free borrowed money!)
4. Completely eliminate the "need" for a partner to steal your world beating baccarat system.

AD

I'm not interested in taking out a loan. I have never taken out a loan, or a credit card, and never will. No one can "steal" my system. Even if you watch me place 1 million bets, you will never figure it out.

Originally Posted by vampirecolin

Should this be posted here or in the "shooting the breeze section"? If this is the wrong section, mods, feel free to move it.I have a great method, but, lack the bankroll. My bankroll is so limited, it's sad. But my method is great! I can't afford to go play all the time, or use any worthwhile bankroll, so I'm looking to partner up with anyone willing to do so. I go to the atlantic city casinos. Some stats on my method? I tested it against 500 shoes, and it makes about 1-4 units per shoe. Flat betting completely. Total lifetime bankroll? 6 units. Biggest draw down at any given time? 3 units. This is playing entirely through all 500 shoes. Never loses a shoe. Not based on streaks, chops, twos, threes, or anything like that. Partnership offer? You bring your bankroll (obviously some decent sized number), we sit at the table together. I have my small little bankroll ($100), using $15 bets I have 7 units. You bet where ever I bet with my bankroll, with your bankroll. At the end of the day, you give me 50% of your winnings. We can do it as often as anyone would like, or of course, until I make enough where I don't need a partner.Pm me if interested.

At those rate of return, just start at $100 and play a few shoes a day for a couple of weeks, and scaling up your bets as your bankroll grows. In a couple weeks, you will be more than a millionaire. So ... Why would you need a partner? Huh - you're named "vampire."

Originally Posted by Hotdog

At those rate of return, just start at $100 and play a few shoes a day for a couple of weeks, and scaling up your bets as your bankroll grows. In a couple weeks, you will be more than a millionaire. So ... Why would you need a partner? Huh - you're named "vampire."

I'm having a hard time responding to these kinds of suggestions, because I already explained myself. lol, but I, will. I can only repeat, that I posted here, because I currently don't have the time or money to dedicate to actually playing this system. With the help of a partner, I can make my dreams (that would take months to a year from now) come true faster. As well as make my partner profit.

Oh, and I just love vampires. There is true honor in vampires, past the grueling, sensational monsters displayed in movies. I write fiction about vampires. Currently working on a movie script/movie deal with a production company.

Originally Posted by vampirecolin

I'm having a hard time responding to these kinds of suggestions, because I already explained myself. lol, but I, will. I can only repeat, that I posted here, because I currently don't have the time or money to dedicate to actually playing this system. With the help of a partner, I can make my dreams (that would take months to a year from now) come true faster. As well as make my partner profit.

Seriously, dude, if I were you, I would MAKE time. Actually, here's another thought if you don't like to be patient: call up any major financial fund and set up a meeting with the managers, and then demonstrate your method to them, it doesn't even have to be at a casino, just buy 8 deck of cards and deal on the table. If your method is as golden goose as you make it sound, they will write you a check for 6 or 7 figures easily without a second thought - name your price. You become instantly rich, they go on to run a fund with your method, and everyone's happy. Just trying to help. Oh, good - Halloween's in a few days - good time to be a vampire!

Originally Posted by Hotdog

Seriously, dude, if I were you, I would MAKE time. Actually, here's another thought if you don't like to be patient: call up any major financial fund and set up a meeting with the managers, and then demonstrate your method to them, it doesn't even have to be at a casino, just buy 8 deck of cards and deal on the table. If your method is as golden goose as you make it sound, they will write you a check for 6 or 7 figures easily without a second thought - name your price. You become instantly rich, they go on to run a fund with your method, and everyone's happy. Just trying to help. Oh, good - Halloween's in a few days - good time to be a vampire!

This is a joke right? I'm not sure, but, it can't be serious? ... :/

Originally Posted by Hotdog

Seriously, dude, if I were you, I would MAKE time. Actually, here's another thought if you don't like to be patient: call up any major financial fund and set up a meeting with the managers, and then demonstrate your method to them, it doesn't even have to be at a casino, just buy 8 deck of cards and deal on the table. If your method is as golden goose as you make it sound, they will write you a check for 6 or 7 figures easily without a second thought - name your price. You become instantly rich, they go on to run a fund with your method, and everyone's happy. Just trying to help. Oh, good - Halloween's in a few days - good time to be a vampire!

.....I am going to try to respond to this, as ludicrous as this is. lol...

You've got to consider the fact that normal, every day, working, people with families, cannot just up and travel hours and miles away to gamble anytime they want. Doesn't matter what kind of technique or method they have. You don't go to sleep one way, and rapidly change into another way the next morning. No financial institution would grant the time to waste to be engaged on a "gambling" method. Nor, would they put any money into it. This has got to be a joke, an intentional poke at being unrealistic, or something else. But I can't see it as being serious, ..lol

Originally Posted by vampirecolin

.....I am going to try to respond to this, as ludicrous as this is. lol...

You've got to consider the fact that normal, every day, working, people with families, cannot just up and travel hours and miles away to gamble anytime they want. Doesn't matter what kind of technique or method they have. You don't go to sleep one way, and rapidly change into another way the next morning. No financial institution would grant the time to waste to be engaged on a "gambling" method. Nor, would they put any money into it. This has got to be a joke, an intentional poke at being unrealistic, or something else. But I can't see it as being serious, ..lol

So ya have no time to play, but have time to take 50% of my money at no risk to you if it don't work. Nice one, I might try this in my casino, see how many fools fall for it. Desperardo

Originally Posted by vampirecolin

.....I am going to try to respond to this, as ludicrous as this is. lol...You've got to consider the fact that normal, every day, working, people with families, cannot just up and travel hours and miles away to gamble anytime they want. Doesn't matter what kind of technique or method they have. You don't go to sleep one way, and rapidly change into another way the next morning. No financial institution would grant the time to waste to be engaged on a "gambling" method. Nor, would they put any money into it. This has got to be a joke, an intentional poke at being unrealistic, or something else. But I can't see it as being serious, ..lol

I wasn't joking. Funds invest in all sorts of things besides the usual financial stuff, yes, including gambling. Check out the fund run by that MIT blackjack maestro, and some of those students are still at it strong today. Sounds like your method would beat the tiny bit that blackjackers win, and they manage to win millions. But ok, if you can't understand how that would work, here's another idea for you ... simply play live dealer bacc online at a place that takes American customers like BetPhoenix. Start with your $100, play a couple of games a day in the comfrot of your own home without needing to take time travelling or away from your work and family, you can even do it as a break from your script writing, make a few units during your coffee breaks. Then it will only take a few weeks to amass quite a fortune, and then you can go to the land casinos in AC at your pleasure if you still feel the need to. But don't tell me, you will think many other excuses why this won't work for ya. Bottom line is, there are too many ways for someone like you who has such a golden goose to make $$$ without the help of any "partner," and you can do it so easily and quickly if you simply tried. But it looks like you're dead set on taking the hardest route of all, and of course, it is quite obvious that people here are going to think you are out to take advantage of them. Hmm ... well, unless you can find a risk lover, better stick to your vampire stories for now.

Originally Posted by Sting

So ya have no time to play, but have time to take 50% of my money at no risk to you if it don't work. Nice one, I might try this in my casino, see how many fools fall for it. Desperardo

No, no time to play enough to compensate the time I'll be away from work and my family with my limited bankroll. With a partner? We'll make enough. I don't get 50% of unmade profits. So there's no scam. Hope that clears it up for ya!

Originally Posted by Hotdog

I wasn't joking. Funds invest in all sorts of things besides the usual financial stuff, yes, including gambling. Check out the fund run by that MIT blackjack maestro, and some of those students are still at it strong today. Sounds like your method would beat the tiny bit that blackjackers win, and they manage to win millions. But ok, if you can't understand how that would work, here's another idea for you ... simply play live dealer bacc online at a place that takes American customers like BetPhoenix. Start with your $100, play a couple of games a day in the comfrot of your own home without needing to take time travelling or away from your work and family, you can even do it as a break from your script writing, make a few units during your coffee breaks. Then it will only take a few weeks to amass quite a fortune, and then you can go to the land casinos in AC at your pleasure if you still feel the need to. But don't tell me, you will think many other excuses why this won't work for ya. Bottom line is, there are too many ways for someone like you who has such a golden goose to make $$$ without the help of any "partner," and you can do it so easily and quickly if you simply tried. But it looks like you're dead set on taking the hardest route of all, and of course, it is quite obvious that people here are going to think you are out to take advantage of them. Hmm ... well, unless you can find a risk lover, better stick to your vampire stories for now.

You'll hardly find a financial group willing to risk money on a gambling system these days. Trust me, I know what I'm talking about. We'll argue that point back and fourth, but, probably will never really agree. So lets agree to disagree on that one. I'm not putting my money in an online casino, never have, never will. It's not really legal, honestly, it's in the grey area. And I'm not waking up to any surprises the next morning, finding out they closed up shop due to some "Legal raid" as did poker stars. So, the online casino thing is out of the question. My bankroll is very limited. So a partner is a good idea. I already knew what was up when posting here, so, I'm not surprised I have received such minimal interest via pm. That's fine, I only need one partner. If none of the people who responded actually work out, and we never actually go to the casino and make the money, oh well, I tried, and I'll have to wait until I can do it myself. There's tons of ways for me to make money off of my system, unfortunately, without a partner, I'd have to wait for a few months to a year. No big deal.

Originally Posted by vampirecolin

I'm not surprised I have received such minimal interest via pm

neither are we

Originally Posted by Sting

neither are we

Yeah, that's just what it is. I'll just try to make things work with the people who did respond with interest. It's the best I can do.

Originally Posted by vampirecolin

You'll hardly find a financial group willing to risk money on a gambling system these days. Trust me, I know what I'm talking about. We'll argue that point back and fourth, but, probably will never really agree. So lets agree to disagree on that one. I'm not putting my money in an online casino, never have, never will. It's not really legal, honestly, it's in the grey area. And I'm not waking up to any surprises the next morning, finding out they closed up shop due to some "Legal raid" as did poker stars. So, the online casino thing is out of the question. My bankroll is very limited. So a partner is a good idea. I already knew what was up when posting here, so, I'm not surprised I have received such minimal interest via pm. That's fine, I only need one partner. If none of the people who responded actually work out, and we never actually go to the casino and make the money, oh well, I tried, and I'll have to wait until I can do it myself. There's tons of ways for me to make money off of my system, unfortunately, without a partner, I'd have to wait for a few months to a year. No big deal.

Hardly a financial group willing to invest in a golden goose that you describe? The only reason they wouldn't is if you couldn't prove to them it is as real as you claim. For that I think they probably would want a much larger test than just 500 shoes, which is a good start but nothing close to defnitive proof. They probably would want some mathematics prof to verify your method, and a computer run of millions of games like what mr. Thorp did. Well like you said, no one with half a brain will agree with you about this. Oh, but on a lighter note, here's a suggestion that you might actually appreciate: advertise your offer on something like Craigslist, rather than a gambling forum, because over here, there are just way too many of us who can see right through you, but out there in the more general population, you will much more likely be able to find willing, ignorant, and desperate dupes with too much cash and too little smarts or experience. Especially in these hard times, I'm sure plenty out there would be willing to take out 3rd mortgages to fund your 100% guaranteed golden goose. Funny, they probably will have more faith in you to take out that loan than you have faith in yourself to do the same thing on your own. Best of luck to ya, and don't forget to have your hygienist buff up those fangs to be sparkly and shiny, cuz first impressions count! ;-)

Originally Posted by vampirecolin

You'll hardly find a financial group willing to risk money on a gambling system these days. Trust me, I know what I'm talking about. We'll argue that point back and fourth, but, probably will never really agree. So lets agree to disagree on that one. I'm not putting my money in an online casino, never have, never will. It's not really legal, honestly, it's in the grey area. And I'm not waking up to any surprises the next morning, finding out they closed up shop due to some "Legal raid" as did poker stars. So, the online casino thing is out of the question. My bankroll is very limited. So a partner is a good idea. I already knew what was up when posting here, so, I'm not surprised I have received such minimal interest via pm. That's fine, I only need one partner. If none of the people who responded actually work out, and we never actually go to the casino and make the money, oh well, I tried, and I'll have to wait until I can do it myself. There's tons of ways for me to make money off of my system, unfortunately, without a partner, I'd have to wait for a few months to a year. No big deal.

Oh, I forgot to reply to your dissing BetPhoenix ... plenty of us have played there and have withdrawn real profits regularly for years. I personally know dozens. If you're that afraid of your money vanishing, then just make it a routine to withdraw every $100 you make. But I know, I know, you wouldn't want to strain your pinky's worth of effort doing that either. Well, perhaps your best solution is simply to learn patience, then, or try my Craigslist idea. I'm sure the golden goose won't die anytime soon, unless you wind up sucking its blood .... vaaa haaa haaa haaa ... (now, *that* was a joke, wink, wink).

Originally Posted by vampirecolin

You'll hardly find a financial group willing to risk money on a ***gambling system*** these days.

Note your freudian slip.

Originally Posted by Hotdog

Hardly a financial group willing to invest in a golden goose that you describe? The only reason they wouldn't is if you couldn't prove to them it is as real as you claim. For that I think they probably would want a much larger test than just 500 shoes, which is a good start but nothing close to defnitive proof. They probably would want some mathematics prof to verify your method, and a computer run of millions of games like what mr. Thorp did. Well like you said, no one with half a brain will agree with you about this. Oh, but on a lighter note, here's a suggestion that you might actually appreciate: advertise your offer on something like Craigslist, rather than a gambling forum, because over here, there are just way too many of us who can see right through you, but out there in the more general population, you will much more likely be able to find willing, ignorant, and desperate dupes with too much cash and too little smarts or experience. Especially in these hard times, I'm sure plenty out there would be willing to take out 3rd mortgages to fund your 100% guaranteed golden goose. Funny, they probably will have more faith in you to take out that loan than you have faith in yourself to do the same thing on your own. Best of luck to ya, and don't forget to have your hygienist buff up those fangs to be sparkly and shiny, cuz first impressions count! ;-)

By now I have already figured out your intention, but, even so, I will reply.

You're suggesting that your suggestion of me presenting this to a financial institution would prevail. I and many others disagree. Including people who actually work at financial institutions. It's just not the kind of thing they invest in. Unless I find that one underdog willing to take a chance and a major risk to move to the top? Craigslist is full of thugs and con men who believe they are intelligent, which they are, enough to scam people who are even more intelligent than them. I definitely would not take on anyone who has to take out a loan, credit card cash advance, or a mortgage. I wouldn't want my partner to do anything I would not do myself. I've already said, if it does not work with any of the people who responded to this post and have shown interest, I will then accept the failure and wait to do it myself. That's not really a messy and/or complicated application.

The mockery is totally unnecessary, but, I can't control what you do. I just will not respond to it negatively and hope it stops. I am into vampires, through the comics I draw, the stories I write. My creative talents will pay off, it will just take some time, as all things do.

Originally Posted by Hotdog

Oh, I forgot to reply to your dissing BetPhoenix ... plenty of us have played there and have withdrawn real profits regularly for years. I personally know dozens. If you're that afraid of your money vanishing, then just make it a routine to withdraw every $100 you make. But I know, I know, you wouldn't want to strain your pinky's worth of effort doing that either. Well, perhaps your best solution is simply to learn patience, then, or try my Craigslist idea. I'm sure the golden goose won't die anytime soon, unless you wind up sucking its blood .... vaaa haaa haaa haaa ... (now, *that* was a joke, wink, wink).

I'm definitely never putting any money in an online casino. No disrespect to you or anyone (including the online casinos).

Originally Posted by Hotdog

Note your freudian slip.

That's not too far from the truth. About their interest in gambling systems. By stranglehold on the 500 shoes, is based upon math I was given by some expert card counters (in baccarat). So to speak, if something can surpass the threshold of 5000-10000 hands, flat betting, then you've beaten the house. I've tested a lot of systems, and nothing has survived past 200 shoes flat betting. This method I have now, is the only one to make it 32000+ hands and still produce the same consistent profit.

Originally Posted by vampirecolin

That's not too far from the truth. About their interest in gambling systems. By stranglehold on the 500 shoes, is based upon math I was given by some expert card counters (in baccarat). So to speak, if something can surpass the threshold of 5000-10000 hands, flat betting, then you've beaten the house. I've tested a lot of systems, and nothing has survived past 200 shoes flat betting. This method I have now, is the only one to make it 32000+ hands and still produce the same consistent profit.

You don't even see the implications of your own admission, it's too funny. And wow - thinking you've beaten the game after winning 500 shoes ... hmm ... I think you are a man after mr.Mateya's own heart, but not so much mr.Irish's. Stick to your vampire scripts, do what you're good at. By the way, just ribbin' with you about the vampire stuff - come on, lighten up, it's almost All Hallow's Evening, and don't the undead have a sense of humor? ;-)

Originally Posted by Hotdog

You don't even see the implications of your own admission, it's too funny. And wow - thinking you've beaten the game after winning 500 shoes ... hmm ... I think you are a man after mr.Mateya's own heart, but not so much mr.Irish's. Stick to your vampire scripts, do what you're good at. By the way, just ribbin' with you about the vampire stuff - come on, lighten up, it's almost All Hallow's Evening, and don't the undead have a sense of humor? ;-)

You didn't see the most important parts of those statements. Beating 500 shoes, with the same consistent profit flat betting. Big difference from progression betting. Major. But, of course I have laughed at your jokes, the sense of humor is there. lol, have you not seen the "lols" in my previous posts? They weren't negative or sarcastic, I assure you. But, all I can really say to your many posts hotdog, is I must remain consistent with my goal. If there's no success here, I will just wait until I can do it myself. You're assuming I didn't try any of your other suggestions (except craigslist and online casinos, never will).

Originally Posted by vampirecolin

You didn't see the most important parts of those statements. Beating 500 shoes, with the same consistent profit flat betting. Big difference from progression betting. Major. But, of course I have laughed at your jokes, the sense of humor is there. lol, have you not seen the "lols" in my previous posts? They weren't negative or sarcastic, I assure you. But, all I can really say to your many posts hotdog, is I must remain consistent with my goal. If there's no success here, I will just wait until I can do it myself. You're assuming I didn't try any of your other suggestions (except craigslist and online casinos, never will).

Kewl - no sweat - just tryin' to help. Oh, hey - was wondering about something about vampires ... with the whole thing about AIDS and other nasty blood borne viruses and junk, do vampires have to be more careful nowadays? I mean, I'm sure the vampires way back when didn't have to worry about all that as they must have to today. So, like maybe there's something in the saliva of vampires that kill the bugs? That would be cool if we could extract the antigens from vampires and make a vaccine for those diseases. Just a thought ;-)

Originally Posted by vampirecolin

You didn't see the most important parts of those statements. Beating 500 shoes, with the same consistent profit flat betting. Big difference from progression betting. Major. But, of course I have laughed at your jokes, the sense of humor is there. lol, have you not seen the "lols" in my previous posts? They weren't negative or sarcastic, I assure you. But, all I can really say to your many posts hotdog, is I must remain consistent with my goal. If there's no success here, I will just wait until I can do it myself. You're assuming I didn't try any of your other suggestions (except craigslist and online casinos, never will).

By the way, a word to the wise, someone here beat a few thousand shoes flat betting, but then when his system was tested on more shoes, it eventually lost. I think mr.Irish can tell you many cases like that. So, I hope you won't have to learn the hard way you might be standing on thin ice.

Originally Posted by Hotdog

Kewl - no sweat - just tryin' to help. Oh, hey - was wondering about something about vampires ... with the whole thing about AIDS and other nasty blood borne viruses and junk, do vampires have to be more careful nowadays? I mean, I'm sure the vampires way back when didn't have to worry about all that as they must have to today. So, like maybe there's something in the saliva of vampires that kill the bugs? That would be cool if we could extract the antigens from vampires and make a vaccine for those diseases. Just a thought ;-)

lol, it's just a fantasy. Vampires don't exist man! But, by the laws of that fantasy, I would say, their immortality makes them immune to all mortal diseases.

Originally Posted by Hotdog

By the way, a word to the wise, someone here beat a few thousand shoes flat betting, but then when his system was tested on more shoes, it eventually lost. I think mr.Irish can tell you many cases like that. So, I hope you won't have to learn the hard way you might be standing on thin ice.

Did he win every shoe? I think there's more involved than that. Like, how the bets were made. Exit and entry points. How often entire shoes were played. Besides, if a wins money on over thousands of shoes, and still walks away poor instead of a millionaire, there's something wrong with that person.