Thread: The Gr8Player Shrine

Come one, come all......

Somewhere in Oz.....

To Johno's/Carlo's/Egalite's/Scambuster1's/Walter Mitty's studio apartment, there is, in a corner of that one-room flat:

The Gr8Player Shrine

Oh, yeah, I can see it rather clearly:

Candles. Lit candles, alot of them.

With a picture of me, probably a drawing done by either Johno or Carlo or Egalite or Scambuster1 or Walter Mitty (whichever one of him that has the "artiste" in them), in the very center.

All surrounded by every thread I've ever authored and every single post I've ever made.

And he just sits and stares, mumbling to himself:

"Can't you guys, any ONE of you guys, be like the Gr8Player?"

And then he bows and prays.

Twice a day.

Facing east.

Come one, come all, to the Gr8Player Shrine.....

P.S.: Admission $100 U.S. (some way, somehow; he's got to recoup those gambling losses)
However, if you call him "Gr8Player", he'll charge you only 1/2 price.

Never forget, fellas, OBSESSION IS THE SINCEREST FORM OF FLATTERY.

Originally Posted by gr8player

... if you call him "Gr8Player", he'll charge you only 1/2 price.

Here comes Soxfan with those cashews!

Originally Posted by gr8player

Never forget, fellas, OBSESSION IS THE SINCEREST FORM OF FLATTERY.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, please remind me where you might have read FTL = Follow the last 75 years ago? Or "that's it is better to pay the price of time than risk your bankroll".

Only an insincere person, would in the their very first post, state I post the truth, it is like you had something to hide even before you started, how DAFT is that. While you at it trying to win over public opinion, let's remind one and all, that despite playing for six months and not losing a single session, despite claims of betting $200 per hand (now reduced to 100 per hand), despite claims to owning the game, this poor fool by his very own words still has lost more money than he has won, go figure. So just remember that when he tries to proselytize us all to his way of thinking.

I'd love to have a picture Roberta, do send me one, I wanna see if there really is any resemblance to Walter Matthau.

I have come to realize as to why Mike is not doing anything.

This gr8player/Egalite feud is not a flame war or anything that should warrant a banning or censorship.

This is just a bickering old couple or two neighbors bickering over who grows a bigger tomato.

omg you guys have some guinness, popcorn and cashews ---im grabbing a 4x4,, 4 Excedrines and 4 martinis and praying i can sleep thru this one

It bears repeating now more than ever, OBSESSION IS THE SINCEREST FORM OF FLATTERY.

And you know, my friends, that he certainly is obsessed, as there are now OVER ONE HUNDRED posts from Johno/Carlo/Egalite/Scambuster1/Walter Mitty that are directed at me in an inflammatory manner. All done by him without so much as a mention of his name(s) by me. All unprovoked, all of his own doing.

All ONE HUNDRED. The very definition of OBSESSION.

He wants to be me so badly........it's almost sad to watch. He's a train wreck just waiting to happen.

Don't be so silly Walter. Maybe you have a short memory of the crap you posted on GG and level of crap directed at each and every one of my posts, strange thing is Walter, over here at BF not only have you admitted you never bet (started at) $200 per hand, in direct contrast to you GG posts.

Now you are banging on about mechanical and FLT (using MY acronym, not one that was around 75 yrs ago, even having the gall to correct others who refer to it as FLD). Lemme think long & hard about this for a minute, didn't I once post over at GG I made 50u in a shoe and actually posted the shoe I played. You're response was; "I'm was only playing FTL" and something other denigrating remark regarding that type of play being really BASIC and AMATEUR. What do we have a few years later, the GR8 Walter banging on about FLT triggers like you discovered the Holy Grail of Baccarat. While others might struggle, I can read you like a book, a comic in fact.

It's about time you fronted up and owned all of the quotes I keep reminded you about. Buuuut I have a feeling maybe you find them a bit embarrassing. However knowing what you are like, it would be sad for this board for you to start littering this site with your GG bullshit fantasies, such as these;

Frankly speaking, I have been approached to write a book on my Baccarat play. (That was one of the reasons that I had stopped posting my "trip reports".) But, I've decided against it. Why? Because I DID NOT INVENT THIS GAME! http://www.gamblersglen.com/cgi-bin/..._Message_Board

My advice: Don't play "really big units". Gambler's Glen Message Boards : Baccarat Message Board : Shoes That Fit

So it's okay for you and nobody else, or maybe you learnt the hard way? In all honesty Roberta, you are a true nut job.

Don't be so obsessed with me, Johno/Carlo/Egalite/Scambuster1/Walter Mitty....it's getting rather embarrassing....heck, I'm embarrassed for you, man.

Man up. Be a man. Stop this "misinformation" you're blabbering on about. Anybody with half a brain knows that what you're doing is childish. You're pulling single lines out of all most posts to try to make me the idiot, when all you're really accomplishing is painting yourself the "OBSESSED FOOL" of the internet.

Can you stop, or is it simply not in you?

Geez, at least, if you're gonna quote, quote my entire post, rather than merely taking lines "out of context". You're purposely misleading everyone by doing that, all in a vain attempt to make me look bad. Same as every lowlife politician...they'll pull one single line out of an opponent's speech that, when "taken out of context", makes their opponent look bad. But, at what cost, at what final expense, will you go just to do that? Where does it all end?

When will this OBSESSION end? I didn't reply to you for almost 2 months, but, rather than you just letting this crazy OBSESSION with me go, you posted over 100 POSTS denigrating and belittling me during that same time.

When will you let it go? When will your OSESSION with me end?

You're embarrassing yourself, man. It's past time...waaayyy past time...for you to let this OBSESSION go.

I wholeheartedly agree ----im so sick and tired of reading the same old regurgitation of gr8 players bet size or what soxfan should be doing or not doing on his vacations? If its soooo important write a memo to the queen or the prime minister--- I dont think many here care one way or the other?

The proof-thread of personal claims.

Walter Mitty and Little Walter, think this is what is takes to get noticed. WHY?

Originally Posted by tomla

I wholeheartedly agree ----im so sick and tired of reading the same old regurgitation of gr8 players bet size or what soxfan should be doing or not doing on his vacations? If its soooo important write a memo to the queen or the prime minister--- I dont think many here care one way or the other?

Ain't that the truth, T-man? Isn't it all just so ridiculous already?

The question remains, to be answered, eventually, right here in this very Forum:

When will this OBSESSION end? Or, even...WILL THIS OBSESSION EVER END?

And, you're tired of it, T-man? What about me....defending myself against all of his false accusations against me....for all this time now? All because of his OBSESSION.

I'll say it again, and, he probably won't admit it because he's in denial, but know this, my friends:

He wants to BE ME so badly......hence, the title and basis of this thread is true perfection.....for the Shrine surely lives on....

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They are not false accusations Walter, they are YOUR quotes, if they make the writer appear like some ego-centric-contradictory fool, who is more concerned in talking up his fantasy unit size, that ain't my fault Dear Walter.

You should hang your head in utter shame by claiming you have a bigger edge playing Baccarat than any BJ player playing BJ, that is just nonsense. You know it, I know it and any BJ player worth their salt knows it. Your just a idiot Walter, as the link I posted above The proof-thread of personal claims. clearly shows. No high roller uses the expression "HURT ME" concerning the risk of 1 unit, that is the kind of expression a "low roller" would use. It's a bit like a self professed professional Baccarat player claiming he went to Vegas the Mecca of gambling but didn't play Baccarat because it was a vacation. Quit treating members of this board as an extension for your fragile weak ego, get a life and "big it up" to your fellow table players who watch you feed the casino coffers month after month.

I read proof of thread and what the hell is sooo incriminating or stupid?
Egs- when you say something thats full of crap because you didnt bother to read the mans thread or blog etc should we be calling you on it for the next 20 years?
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Re: Target Betting

No, but Target Betting is all based on a "double player" to make 1u profit.

Originally Posted by tomla

I read proof of thread and what the hell is sooo incriminating or stupid?
Egs- when you say something thats full of crap because you didnt bother to read the mans thread or blog etc should we be calling you on it for the next 20 years?
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No, but Target Betting is all based on a "double player" to make 1u profit.

Good point, great post, T-man. Thanks. Truth doesn't matter to this "troll". What matters only to him is how HE sees the posts, what HE thinks of the poster. Does it serve HIS pre-conceived notions? If not, it's "attack mode"....

I thank you for good reason, my friend. You see, the one thing that the "troll" has over me is his internet manueverability. I am, admittedly, a "computer illiterate". So, I cannot go "toe to toe" with him as far as posting his lies and deceits, because I haven't the capability.

But, just think about it a minute.....

Imagine if I were to "pick apart" each of his posts, as he's attempted to do with mine, with all his singular lines and his ambiguities and lies....

It would fill this Forum to the brim.

But I cannot do that, and he knows it. And I will not do that, and he knows it.

So, relentless he remains, intent on making me look bad, when all the while he is only falling down all by himself. I needn't post a thing, i needn't push him....because he is best at FALLING DOWN ALL BY HIMSELF.

But he's got the unmitigated gall to "call out" others; either as ruses or liars. When it is he that is the most guilty of all the members of this Forum.

He quickly pointed out when D-man (DiMenosCor) had wished him ill, or worse. Now, I would never, ever condone any such thing, and wish harm on no one, not even Egalite. BUUUT, he got so upset with D-man, when, in fact, he did just as bad (or worse) to Spike at the Glen, wishing him ill-will...even death...many times over. Again, I am not computer adept enough to post the links like this "troll" can, but they are there. Go to the Glen site and you'll read them. He wished Spike the absolute worst when he fought with him; so, Johno, why so appalled at D-man wishing the same for you? Please, don't even dare try to put yourself "above it all", for you are the "lowest of the low" and EVERYONE knows it. D-man got banned....what punishment might you deserve, "troll"?

Why does everyone know it? Because you remind us with each and every one of your insipid posts. You're not a real man. A real man has honor. A real man can be trusted. (Remind us, how many member's PM's have you posted in the past; these are people that trusted you and you rammed that tenet right back down their throats. And you betrayed their trust, why? To ridicule them, for your own twisted reasons....you're a disgrace, man.)

For the last time, I do NOT bet $400 per hand. IF you must know, my initial unit size is $100, and I employ parlays (or partial parlays) that will see me bet to $200 or even $250. Now, occassionally, when my variance is showing stats that deem it necessary, I will raise my intial unit size to $200, and then my parlays will have me betting as high as $400, or even $500. But those occassions, Thank Goodness, are rare, indeed. FTL Special

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after a win I'll go to 300,
another win I'm back at 200,
another win I'll go back up to 300
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That is all you use these boards for, an extension of a fragile and weak ego.

Nobody wants this forum to be a mirror of GG, however your nonsense (more so if left unabated) put paid to that.

Please share with us Walter how your AC table action nearly changed the game of Baccarat for us all!!!!

This game is "changing" for me, my friends, right in front of my eyes. I see it, and "they" know I see it, but they don't care. Furthermore, by continuing to "crow about" and "elaborate on it" here in a public forum, it could "change the game" for us all, and that's not a good thing for any of us.
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Your an ego-centric idiot Walter, the sooner people realise that, the better off they will be.

Firstly, my edge at Bac is greater than any edge you'd have at BJ. The only reason I don't make more money is because I don't place as many bets as a BJ counter would, so their smaller edge, when multiplied by the number of bets placed, yields more dollars.

But, I've compensated for that by raising my unit sizes. Now, my dollars gained is just fine, thank you.
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So you bet more than the unknown or average BJ player, as well as having a bigger edge regardless of the count, WOW, what an amazing statement. Maybe WE all need to build a shrine to the GR8 AC gambler Walter Mitty.

Great Points Egs--ive never heard these before --very enlightening))))))


(maybe meds would help?)

Originally Posted by tomla

Great Points Egs--ive never heard these before --very enlightening))))))

(maybe meds would help?)

Perhaps you should swallow the MEDS, as you seem to buy into this shit.

im not buying into anything ..i play my own two ways and am happy with that. I enjoy his posts and take what i can out of them..I just dont get why you have to rehash the same silly as in they dont even say anything or make sense arguments over and over...Ever since ive been here I havent seen Gr8 start this nonsense its always you putting the same bull sh**.. in his threads..... start your own gr8 thread if you feel the need!!!!! Why ruin the reading for people that enjoy or are interested in his posts unless you have some valid point, positive or negative pertaining to the CURRENT thread?

Originally Posted by tomla

im not buying into anything ..i play my own two ways and am happy with that. I enjoy his posts and take what i can out of them..I just dont get why you have to rehash the same silly as in they dont even say anything or make sense arguments over and over..

Your gullibility and short-sightedness is not my problem. I'm fairly certain bringing to this site what Walter has posted on other sites is an embarrassment for him. He has never explained "how he came to be rated as somebody expected to win", or "why a casino employee hangs around the gaming hall, during their time off" I can only presume, or "why how he concluded he has a bigger edge than any BJ player", or why he often posted he bets $200 per hand at one site and backtracked over here". Maybe you like reading bullshit, maybe you don't mind being an audience (mindless fodder) for some whack job who's discovered the internet. I won't ask how you know "your getting something out of it", because first you would have to determine what is correct and what is fabricated.

What does any of that actually have to do with the game of baccarat? Possibly maybe if your trying to pull an elephant thru a pinhole.... the bigger edge thing? none of your comments pertain to the game?or strategy or anything its all about if he fudged on bet size and stuff like that--who cares except you?

I guess you kind of feel like youve been annointed to do a public service and warn us about posters that you deem full of crap? Well let me give you a heads up--theres another poster here I cant remember his name that is posting retarded statements like: "No, but Target Betting is all based on a "double player" to make 1u profit."---what a dope huh?

Originally Posted by tomla

What does any of that actually have to do with the game of baccarat? Possibly maybe if your trying to pull an elephant thru a pinhole.... the bigger edge thing? none of your comments pertain to the game?or strategy or anything its all about if he fudged on bet size and stuff like that--who cares except you?

What does what anybody bets to do with Baccarat? Why did Walter think it pertinent to tell everybody week in and week out his unit size! Who cares? No me, that's right not ME. What you, I or anybody else bets, matters nothing to me, it doesn't affect me in any way shape or form. Just like some expose the scammers, bullshitters also get on my nerves, especially those that given me a hard time for many years, but I've already explained that, just like I've posted many playing strategies on this site which you also couldn't recall, my problem also I suppose. Maybe I should just paste some obscure commercial gambling method on the board, Scotty posted a link to thousands of them, I'm sure you haven't read them all.

if bet size doesnt pertain ---and it doesnt--a unit is a unit is a unit---why do you keep on bringing it up?

Originally Posted by tomla

if bet size doesnt pertain ---and it doesnt--a unit is a unit is a unit---why do you keep on bringing it up?

You mention it, those that feel the need to mention these amazing bankrolls on the net & betting levels, 9.5 times out of 10, it's braggadocio.

I've already mentioned why. To expose this fool and payback for all the grief he decided to throw my way for a few years, in particular pertaining to the the use of the word, "mechanical" which is now a bit ironic. He decided to try and continue with his subtle gibes over here (your short-sighted so probably didn't notice them), so I responded in kind. No cursing, I've even refrained from mentioned the fact he emailed me many years ago that he bet $10 per hand, because I can no longer prove it. I've no doubt you don't fully understand reverse physiology, GR8Walter does what he does for a reaction, he relishes in it. No doubt this reaction was not quite what he was expecting. My ability to read him like a book after all years, you obviously haven't mastered.

However HIS quotes which I re-produce (right here on this board ), provide an insight, to the sane at least, how nonsensical some of HIS comments truly are. He can bitch and moan all he likes, but one thing I am not guilty of is bullshit. While your good buddy might think of some email I posted, granted I doctored it, which I also mentioned at the time, out of pure exasperation and due to no longer possessing the original. In regards to an email I still have, "High Rollers" I share tables with, don't fret or "hurt" over the cost of one unit when it comes to negative progressions, if this was the case, they would merely step down their playing level, [hint] some times it's difficult for low-rollers to step down.

A lot of his claims don't make sense for those that frequent casinos on a regular basis, however the back-tracking concerning his initial bet size is a dead give-away, we have a fully fledged Walter Mitty in our mists, as well as a few wannbe Walters. So how anybody can take 'things' from his posts, is confusing, because nobody knows what is true and what is pure fantasy. The only way anybody could determine the truth, would be to share a game or two and as far as I'm aware that ain't gonna happen any time soon.

It's not like he is the only AC gambler on the board, I'm sure fellow BF AC players would relish the opportunity to share a game with somebody who, going by his own gamblersglen claim, once, "never lost a single session in a six month gambling period", [well we should assume he did actually gamble during these six months, otherwise why mention it]. What a absolute privileged that would be for us mere Baccarat mortals. I can only imagine what it would be like playing next to somebody who was once approached to write a book about Baccarat but declined, because he didn't invent the game", I would be totally gob smacked, in so much awe I probably couldn't play my normal game, a bit like sharing a poker game with Negreanu or Brunson

So much success, we are all lead to believe, so much to learn from somebody who has never posted a single shoe, not even once. When requested to post a shoe by the GG moderator, Walters excuse was; he no longer takes his cards home. Yet the same month he posts; he was studying his Baccarat score cards at home one Sunday morning while at the kitchen table! Something does seem right here, does it? I wonder what that could be?? [hint-I can reproduce those posts / quotes if you would like proof].

Sir egalite , for a guy that an hour or two ago said he was to busy to spend his valuable time looking at the target bet strategy (wants it spoon fed!)... You sure spend a lot of time worrying about gr8' bet size etc.... Toooo comical!!!

That thought also crossed my mind, but then again, I don't have to try too hard (looking at other people's idea's that is), I don't need to, unless they're cast iron, the draw-downs involved are not sound enough for me to change my style of approach. However your contributions in this thread are invaluable, it provides me with further opportunities to share my viewpoint, but I bet that never dawned on you. I suggest you re-read the above again, you have either missed or purposely misunderstood the unit size thing.

It simply doesn't work that way, my friend. I'm afraid that if your bet selection offers no advantage (and you know it doesn't) for any single outcome, then, ergo, it offers no advantage no matter what negative (or positive) progression you apply to it.

You see, J, it's simple math.....you can't come up with a positve number from a negative number, no matter how many times you add it up. All you'll do is compound the negative. Gambler's Glen Message Boards : Baccarat Message Board : Trending My Way

Yup you sure can learn a lot from somebody recently claiming a 54% strike rate... What applies to Walter, can't possibly apply to anybody else that my friend [pun intended] is toooo comical!!!!

do you get a lot of or any support in your anti gr8 thing?

I got me some more Guinness, so I can enjoy this thread. I do wish that garnabby jones would come back, and maybe even that "spike" character. The egalite should have more than just one nemesis, hey hey.

this guys actually a riot!!!!! Hes such a pro!!! omg im peeing in my pants