Ellis selling my system on his site for $300???!!! hahahlol

[Martingaler]

Systems all lose in the long run. This one loses big!!!

if each time we want to play , we choosed the shoe that is suitable to pitboss method, could it work ?

Here is an early document Ellis sold called System40, an Advanced System40 method has since been released. Here is a thread about the system, you will notice there is a fair deal of additional information in the thread that never made the Sys40 document, therefore had you paid your hard earned cash for this, you would have needed further info either via a free access to BTC or by paying the $50 monthly subscription.

Betting the "opposite" OLD, or betting AS "Anti-streak" really belongs to nobody, I started off playing AS and posted about it back in 2004 on GG, Redman posted a lot about OLD on the original VIP Lounge site, these styles of play have been used since the advent of casinos.

gambling bisness to earn some easy money.

I've had some interesting results playing my version of pitboss method Wait for BB or PP then bet one unit it jumps if you loose and it goes PPP or BBB then you wait a hand and see if it goes to BBBB or PPPP if it jumped after 3 you lost a unit however it it went to 4 then bet 3 units it jumps if it don't jump you stop betting and lost 4 units .....win goal 4 units stop loss minus 8 units if it did jump after PPPP or BBBB you won 2 units ...........very simple yet effective

BBB and BBBBB always happend.

Yeah, I like pitboss method because it eliminates the 1's. In the meantime I play OLD after a repeat. Works great in shoes that are choppier of course. If the shoe seems streaky it will generally have a shortage of 1's so I either don't bet or switch to FLD. I key off the 1's and if they are hitting regular like I will probably do well.

If the shoe is choppy then I expect the 1's will be breaking it up in little groups and I play a separate progression on the 1's betting for a 1 to go one more.

I don't think it necessary to get into progression to increase unit size by 100%. Increase by 20-50% is enough to win. That way the inevitable recoup bets during losing won't need to be so great. Also when I have won some decent units in a shoe that I deem strong I will pick a few spots to increase my bet. If lose these larger bets I will tend to just quit the shoe with small win.

Archer

if we lost in every early shoe,what will we do ?

Finally! Someone who agrees with me on this! The only way possible that i found to make it work is wait for a choppy cluster like: pp b pp bb ppp....something like that, and then hit it one time. But if you start from the start of a shoe and play it every single repeat...you're doomed.

hit what ? B or P. how about if lost ? what will you do ?

I have a think skin.

I just don't think it should be allowed to cuss at other members. You boys act like children.

Oh and here's something you wrote "the cards don't know what is expected of them" (or something like that) Sounds like you don't controlthe table...the cards control you ha ha.

And let's get back to "toy money"...........what kind of bet do you want to make...you never answered......the bet is that you can't make 80,000 (yeah it's 80,000 now) in 1 month for "toy money"........our bet of course would be real. You'll decline of course....

Anyway, my main point is that members shouldn't be cussed at regardless the disagreement.

will you explain further about your betting method again in here ?

[anotherusernametaken]

The world is a beautiful place. The people in it... That is why there is exploitation and people do nasty stuff to each other due to religion,politics or the color of their skin. Thank god for the necessary evil (the police) or the people with the biggest gun(s) would own and destroy everything

[df1969]

Originally Posted by df1969
I have a think skin.

I just don't think it should be allowed to cuss at other members. You boys act like children.

Oh and here's something you wrote "the cards don't know what is expected of them" (or something like that) Sounds like you don't controlthe table...the cards control you ha ha.

And let's get back to "toy money"...........what kind of bet do you want to make...you never answered......the bet is that you can't make 80,000 (yeah it's 80,000 now) in 1 month for "toy money"........our bet of course would be real. You'll decline of course....

Anyway, my main point is that members shouldn't be cussed at regardless the disagreement.

will you explain further about your betting method again in here ?

Follow what the shoe is doing and go with it: I follow my rules:

BET WITH THE TREND DONT BET against the trend
TAKE YOUR TIME
DON'T RUSH, LET IT COME TO YOU
CLEAR FROM YOUR MIND WHAT HAPPENED IN PREVIOUS SHOES
DONT predict what may come..BET ONLY BY what has already been
DONT CHASE WHAT U THINK MAY COME
DON'T CHASE LOSES
STOP WIN 3
STOP LOSS 4

No fancy progressions, no complicated system...just intuition and knowing when to strike.

If/when things work out in real play I'll make you guys a video and post a new thread.

[JohnMalaysia]

Ladies and gentlemen,Nice upgrade to the forum, looks great!Anyway, I've received some news that Ellis is selling my strategy on his site! I am very flattered!Unfortunately shady people exist in this world and I hope that people check here first. As for trying to copywrite and protect my ideas, I don't mind. I know people and people can be very desperate, I mean I've even bought a silverthorn . I just hope that people get the word out about this forum and stay disciplined and win!Shame on you Ellis...Cheers from California,Pitboss-

Hi Pitboss,

I think it is not only absurb but slandering to suggest that Uncle Ellis is selling your system without any proof!

When Uncle Ellis started to write book on Baccarat, you probably still did not know anything about the game yet!

Uncle Ellis is a well respected Father of Modern Baccarat in the Far East and the World, he is highly talented with his world best baccarat approach. As a life member of BTC and a student of Uncle Ellis, I can testify that your little system is much inferior to any of BTC's and Uncle Ellis' baccarat winning systems, especially his latest baccarat ultimate NOR Approach and ADN.

When you started your thread on 'I Beat Baccarat..', Uncle Ellis supported you and mentioned in your thread that your system was part of his larger OTBL Winning Sytem. It is hard to believe that you now turn around and deliberately slander Uncle Ellis for selling your system without any proof!

I think it is not fair to Uncle Ellis that you simply accused him without any proof and it hurts us so much to hear your slandering!

Please show us the proof! Otherwise, you must apologize to Uncle Ellis!! Or else, we all shall boycott your threads for being so irresponsible!!!

[Egalite]

Ellis might be a nice and friendly guy and all that, however despite the IMspirit love-fest, he is semi demented.

Just a recap of some of the crazy suggestions he has come out with;

To avoid paying winning players, the pit boss shouted "BREAK DOWN THOSE STACKS"

To foil one of Ellis scams, the casino orchestrated the deck to produce a 3-1-3-1 pattern

To thwart winning follow the streak players, the casino pressed buttons on the shuffling machine to produce choppy shoes

And tables / shoes produce biases, "what you see, will continue".

He appears happy and contented because there will always be suckers that fall for his spiel.

[Archer]

When Uncle Ellis started to write book on Baccarat, you probably still did not know anything about the game yet!

John, what book is that and where can we get it?

[mattman]

To avoid paying winning players, the pit boss shouted "BREAK DOWN THOSE STACKS"

This one, in particular, had me in stitches.

[DAWGPEN]

Ellis is a sleazy con man.