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    Default The shoe from "Heaven".

    I've never seen such a shoe like this one in my life and probably will not see it again.

    Me and my good friend were playing at one casino last night.

    About 4 a.m. in the morning, we did witness this shoe and we're the only two players at the table.

    I was the one who'd cut the cards, and we both played from the beginning to the end of the shoe.

    No doubt, we did clean-up all of the $500, $1,000 and almost all of the $5,000 ships, on the rack!!!

    My friend sometimes was betting up to $20,000 max. per hand, while I was only betting up to $5,000 max. per hand.

    All of the "suits" couldn't do anything, except were looking at each other and made some phone calls.

    It was all good!!!
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    Default Re: The shoe from "Heaven".

    Quote Originally Posted by punvit View Post
    I've never seen such a shoe like this one in my life and probably will not see it again.

    Me and my good friend were playing at one casino last night.

    About 4 a.m. in the morning, we did witness this shoe and we're the only two players at the table.

    I was the one who'd cut the cards, and we both played from the beginning to the end of the shoe.

    No doubt, we did clean-up all of the $500, $1,000 and almost all of the $5,000 ships, in the rack!!!

    My friend sometimes was betting up to $20,000 max. per hand, while I was only betting up to $5,000 max. per hand.

    All of the "suits" couldn't do anything, except were looking at each other and made some phone calls.

    It was all good!!!
    Hi Punvit,

    What was your strategy in this shoe?

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    Default Re: The shoe from "Heaven".

    Quote Originally Posted by punvit View Post
    I've never seen such a shoe like this one in my life and probably will not see it again.

    Me and my good friend were playing at one casino last night.

    About 4 a.m. in the morning, we did witness this shoe and we're the only two players at the table.

    I was the one who'd cut the cards, and we both played from the beginning to the end of the shoe.

    No doubt, we did clean-up all of the $500, $1,000 and almost all of the $5,000 ships, in the rack!!!

    My friend sometimes was betting up to $20,000 max. per hand, while I was only betting up to $5,000 max. per hand.

    All of the "suits" couldn't do anything, except were looking at each other and made some phone calls.

    It was all good!!!

    Pundit, yer my hero, hey hey.
    Last edited by soxfan; 07-15-2011 at 10:04 PM. Reason: donatin my body to science, hey hey!

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    Default Re: The shoe from "Heaven".

    good thing that u're there and playing it. I wonder how many shoes from heaven and how many shoes from hell

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    Default Re: The shoe from "Heaven".

    Quote Originally Posted by JerrySignfeld View Post
    Hi Punvit,

    What was your strategy in this shoe?
    I was playing FLD or FTL most of the time.

    We both started to bet "heavily" on the forth P streak.
    Last edited by punvit; 07-16-2011 at 03:57 AM.

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    Default Re: The shoe from "Heaven".

    PUNVIT,

    You are The Man! just out of curiosity where was this? what casino? Cheers!

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    Default Re: The shoe from "Heaven".

    Quote Originally Posted by grassshopper View Post
    PUNVIT,

    You are The Man! just out of curiosity where was this? what casino? Cheers!
    I prefer to keep it quiet and I don't think they want anyone to know if, it ever happened at all.
    Last edited by punvit; 07-16-2011 at 06:39 PM.

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    Default Re: The shoe from "Heaven".

    All right, but just so you know, I am not a stalker...,

    by the way did you decide to play FLD from the begining or once you were getting multiple streaks? how did you realize that this could be the shoe from heaven? would you care to share any tips...

    thanks!

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    Default Re: The shoe from "Heaven".

    Quote Originally Posted by grassshopper View Post
    All right, but just so you know, I am not a stalker...,

    by the way did you decide to play FLD from the begining or once you were getting multiple streaks? how did you realize that this could be the shoe from heaven? would you care to share any tips...

    thanks!
    No one knows which shoe is a shoe from "heaven" or from "hell", until you "feel" it.

    I've decided to play FLD from the first P streak and opened "natural" on the 4th and 5th hands.

    You're the "one" who has to decide, when to play FLD.

    Most of the time, when you're playing FLD, you want to "let it ride" until the end of it.

    This shoe had 23 "natural" hands, as it shown on the board.
    Last edited by punvit; 07-16-2011 at 03:58 AM.

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    Default Re: The shoe from "Heaven".

    And the 64 million dollar ? is - How much did you actually win on this once in a life time shoe - cheers Chopper.

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    Default Re: The shoe from "Heaven".

    Quote Originally Posted by punvit View Post
    I prefer to keep it quiet.
    No doubt and not surprising, I've already received PM's from people who are acquainted with casinos in Vegas, and they tell me they haven't seen such a tote board in LV. I could be wrong, but that's what they tell me. That score board is truly amazing, not only is some Los Vegas casino catering for the Chinese community, it seems to be catering for only the Chinese community. So please tell me, how do the LV casinos decide whether to design their display boards in either Mandarin or Cantonese?

    From somebody who less than 12 months ago admitted they were betting 100 per hand and advised others to do so, wasn't even familiar with US table etiquette and deleted messages which spelt out as much, wasn't sure totally sure about the Player 8 card rule, has been proven to have lied about numerous bogus invitations, Timothy Beckett sure has come a long way. Some might say "too far". But hey whatever floats your boat and strokes your ego, I'll leave it to others to lap this shit up.
    Last edited by Egalite; 07-16-2011 at 07:46 AM. Reason: The Black Sheep

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    Default Re: The shoe from "Heaven".

    Quote Originally Posted by punvit View Post
    I was playing FLD or FTL most of the time.

    We both started to bet "heavily" on the forth P streak.
    Hi punvit,

    I am almost new member in this forums but i am regular learner from you guys. Would you like share me what is FLD and FTL stand for?
    Sharing is Caring.

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    Default Re: The shoe from "Heaven".

    Quote Originally Posted by nico View Post
    Hi punvit,I am almost new member in this forums but i am regular learner from you guys. Would you like share me what is FLD and FTL stand for?Sharing is Caring.
    Nico:It means follow the last decision.Best of luck.

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    Question Re: The shoe from "Heaven".

    punvit = bullshiter ?

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    Default Re: The shoe from "Heaven".

    I've nothing personal against Punvit (he was an aright guy until he misunderstood my advice to post something substantial). Since the age of dawn there has been too much bullshit on gambling forums. What does it exactly achieve? The gullible buy into the shit, some expose it, maybe the poster gets some kind of weird ego boost from it. In the end it helps NOBODY and serves no useful purpose.

    It comes as no surprise, the clowns making the claims WON'T MEET ANYBODY at any table, not just Punvit (who may have posted further proof he is not living in Vegas, check out the celling behind the tote board, looks like it was super-imposed over some done up shed. Are LV VIP areas this shabby?), and produce lame excuse after lame excuse, meanwhile we are supposed to lap up and indulge ourselves these screw-ball fantasies. If anybody is bold enough to post fantasies of 80k bankrolls, having never lost for 6 months straight, they ought to be willing to "front up", otherwise stick to fantasising while taking a dump and quit making an ass of yourself and thinking everybody here is naive.

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    Last edited by Egalite; 07-16-2011 at 02:58 PM. Reason: The Black Sheep

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    Default Re: The shoe from "Heaven".

    Quote Originally Posted by Egalite View Post
    I've nothing personal against Punvit (he was an aright guy until he misunderstood my advice to post something substantial). Since the age of dawn there has been too much bullshit on gambling forums. What does it exactly achieve? The gullible buy into the shit, some expose it, maybe the poster gets some kind of weird ego boost from it. In the end it helps NOBODY and serves no useful purpose.

    It comes as no surprise, the clowns making the claims WON'T MEET ANYBODY at any table, not just Punvit (who may have posted further proof he is not living in Vegas, check out the celling behind the tote board, looks like it was super-imposed over some done up shed. Are LV VIP areas this shabby?), and produce lame excuse after lame excuse, meanwhile we are supposed to lap up and indulge ourselves these screw-ball fantasies. If anybody is bold enough to post fantasies of 80k bankrolls, having never lost for 6 months straight, they ought to be willing to "front up", otherwise stick to fantasising while taking a dump and quit making an ass of yourself and thinking everybody here is naive.

    Punvit's LV casino.jpg
    I must say that I appreciate Punvit's posts and I have a good opinion about him, I hope to meet him in my next trip to LV, if he will accept...
    I also play quite successfully but I don't love having hosts at my table, this influence in some way my play and I don't like it. It happened during my last trip to vegas in 2009 where I met some friends and I think to have played my worst bac for years.
    So, I suggest that if you don't appreciate its msgs, just don't read them.
    "Peace and love"

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    Default Re: The shoe from "Heaven".

    Quote Originally Posted by andrebac View Post
    I must say that I appreciate Punvit's posts and I have a good opinion about him, I hope to meet him in my next trip to LV, if he will accept...
    I also play quite successfully but I don't love having hosts at my table, this influence in some way my play and I don't like it. It happened during my last trip to vegas in 2009 where I met some friends and I think to have played my worst bac for years.
    So, I suggest that if you don't appreciate its msgs, just don't read them.
    "Peace and love"
    Thought you were banned in the recent Ellis "Cru de gra"! Nice to see you back. I really do hope you met Punvit in Las Vegas, I really do, I bet it never happens.

    Which of Punvits posts do you like best? Those where he says he bets 100 per hand, and 9 months later it is 1000 per hand and 28 consecutive winning sessions, or maybe the one's where he has invested in property from his Baccarat profits, or the one above, winning $5k per hand, a five fold increase in approx a month. Does it give you a buzz, do you think one day you might reach these dizzy heights, which even he hasn't reached. I'll tell you what, while you are State-Side, nip to AC, there is another truly amazing player who has been beating the tables in that town for a long time. Funny ain't it, everything said and done, somebody like Ellis will meet anybody, yet all these remarkable players tend to shy away. It's a bit like Ripley's "Believe it or not"
    Last edited by Egalite; 07-16-2011 at 03:28 PM. Reason: The Black Sheep

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    Default Re: The shoe from "Heaven".

    Quote Originally Posted by chopper999 View Post
    And the 64 million dollar ? is - How much did you actually win on this once in a life time shoe - cheers Chopper.
    We both won good six figures.

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    Default Re: The shoe from "Heaven".

    Quote Originally Posted by Egalite View Post
    No doubt and not surprising, I've already received PM's from people who are acquainted with casinos in Vegas, and they tell me they haven't seen such a tote board in LV. That score board is truly amazing, not only is some Los Vegas casino catering for the Chinese community, it seems to be catering for only the Chinese community. So please tell me, how do the LV casinos decide whether to design their display boards in either Mandarin or Cantonese?

    From somebody who less than 12 months ago admitted they were betting 100 per hand and advised others to do so, wasn't even familiar with US table etiquette and deleted messages which spelt out as much, wasn't sure totally sure about the Player 8 card rule, has been proven to have lied about numerous bogus invitations, Timothy Beckett sure has come a long way. Some might say "too far". But hey whatever floats your boat and strokes your ego, I'll leave it to others to lap this shit up.
    Egalolife, first of all, you're not welcome here.

    You couldn't even afford to come to Las Vegas and that is why you don't know shit about it.

    This thread is for sharing purposes only and nothing else.

    As, you're not come in peace, so get the hell out of my thread!!!

    What about "the Chinese community"?

    Are you a racist or an ex-skin head guy?

    Becareful, when saying such thing in this public forum, moron.

    It's time for you to end your character and leave this forum for good.

    I'm so sick and tired of you now, same as other members in this forum.
    Last edited by punvit; 07-17-2011 at 02:40 AM.

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    Default Re: The shoe from "Heaven".

    Quote Originally Posted by born2gamble View Post
    punvit = bullshiter ?
    Read all of my posts and his posts, then ask yourself, who plays for real and who doesn't.
    Last edited by punvit; 07-16-2011 at 09:55 PM.

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    Default Re: The shoe from "Heaven".

    Quote Originally Posted by andrebac View Post
    I must say that I appreciate Punvit's posts and I have a good opinion about him, I hope to meet him in my next trip to LV, if he will accept...
    I also play quite successfully but I don't love having hosts at my table, this influence in some way my play and I don't like it. It happened during my last trip to vegas in 2009 where I met some friends and I think to have played my worst bac for years.
    So, I suggest that if you don't appreciate its msgs, just don't read them.
    "Peace and love"
    Thank you andrebac, for your comments.

    We both know who plays for real and who doesn't.

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    Default Re: The shoe from "Heaven".

    Quote Originally Posted by Egalite View Post
    I've nothing personal against Punvit
    Stop the bullshit, you're still doing it now.

    check out the celling behind the tote board, looks like it was super-imposed over some done up shed. Are LV VIP areas this shabby?)
    You cannot even afford to come to Vegas, why bother so much?

    I've already received PM's from people who are acquainted with casinos in Vegas, and they tell me they haven't seen such a tote board in LV. I could be wrong, but that's what they tell me.
    Those whoever did PM's you, surely never been in the casinos, in Las Vegas or other cities in the USA.

    If anybody is bold enough to post fantasies of 80k bankrolls, having never lost for 6 months straight
    Hey, stop making things up, I did mention one time that I was so lucky and did not loss a session for almost 2 months straight but, I've lose 2 sessions in a week after.

    By the way, where is the "bankroll" come from if, it's not the money from your bank accounts or credit lines with the casinos?

    Actually, 80k bankroll is no big deal for many players here in the USA.

    It was about 2 months ago, did anyone here know that one guy in a late 30's from China, has lose around $15 millions in 1 week, at the Wynn? I guess not, it's all confidencial.

    Just to let someone like "you" to know, what "real players" do now in the real "gambling world", most "big" players usually have credit lines with the casinos, they prefer not to carry a lot of cash or "bankroll" with them, to the casinos.

    I usually, ask some "big" players about the baccarat forums online, none of them ever thought of it and have no desire to join any of them.

    Most of them owned businesses, investors, lawyers and even doctors, they don't have time for it, enough said.
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    Default Re: The shoe from "Heaven".

    The Shoe from Heaven has turned into a Thread from Hell.

    That baccarat status board does appear in Vegas. You can find one of similar nature at The Cosmopolitan.
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    Default Re: The shoe from "Heaven".

    Quote Originally Posted by DiMenosCor View Post
    The Shoe from Heaven has turned into a Thread from Hell.
    Because of Egalite (johno) jumped in and tried to ruin it.

    Since, we know who and how he is, then just ignore him.

    He just doing his job as a "troll", who never played with real money.
    Last edited by punvit; 07-16-2011 at 09:48 PM.

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    Default Re: The shoe from "Heaven".

    All I can say is this. These baccarat score boards are great yet they carry way too much jibberish and nonsense on there. Showing the Banker, Player and Tie results according to how the shoe is is enough.

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    Default Re: The shoe from "Heaven".

    Quote Originally Posted by DiMenosCor View Post
    All I can say is this. These baccarat score boards are great yet they carry way too much jibberish and nonsense on there. Showing the Banker, Player and Tie results according to how the shoe is is enough.
    I agreed, all I need from the scoreboard is the results of P and B hands.
    Last edited by punvit; 07-16-2011 at 10:02 PM.

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    Default Re: The shoe from "Heaven".

    Quote Originally Posted by punvit View Post
    I agreed, all I need from the board is the results of P and B hands.

    As you know, most of the casinos in Vegas are using this kind of board, especially in all of the "High Limits" areas.
    The entire scoreboard can be quite misleading for the newcomer ... I also find the results of P and B hands most helpful when it comes to identifying a pattern or trend.

    But I have also seen others benefitting from the other sections of the scoreboards.

    Anyone knows how to supplement them with the P and B score?

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    Default Re: The shoe from "Heaven".

    Quote Originally Posted by JerrySignfeld View Post
    The entire scoreboard can be quite misleading for the newcomer ... I also find the results of P and B hands most helpful when it comes to identifying a pattern or trend.

    But I have also seen others benefitting from the other sections of the scoreboards.

    Anyone knows how to supplement them with the P and B score?
    I think there is a thread here some where, that talked about this kind of scoreboard.

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    Default Re: The shoe from "Heaven".

    Quote Originally Posted by punvit View Post
    I think there is a thread here some where, that talked about this kind of scoreboard.
    Thanks Punvit.

    I realised most of the time my winnnings come from streaks like these and clusters of these streaks. I do flat betting most of the time.

    When do you maximise and decide you would bet heavily and empty the dealer? For example, you see lots of naturals coming out or score of 9 beating 8 or after ties?

    Or was it just plain feel and guts?
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    Default Re: The shoe from "Heaven".

    Quote Originally Posted by JerrySignfeld View Post
    Thanks Punvit.

    I realised most of the time my winnnings come from streaks like these and clusters of these streaks. I do flat betting most of the time.

    When do you maximise and decide you would bet heavily and empty the dealer? For example, you see lots of naturals coming out or score of 9 beating 8 or after ties?

    Or was it just plain feel and guts?
    Hi Jerry, no one on this earth would know or can predict what's the next hand will be.

    All we can do is see how a certain shoe goes and do the best of your knowledge, to play the game with good MM.
    Last edited by punvit; 07-16-2011 at 11:37 PM.

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