Thread: Post Your Shoes: See How this System Performs

When things are going well, expect to win +20-+30 units (per shoe).
Marginal Shoe: > +50
Terrible Shoe: > +200


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+466 units

How about try this shoe?

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For Zyyt's Shoe: +51 units

What bet selection & MM are you using ?Thanks

Originally Posted by gerard711

What bet selection & MM are you using ?Thanks

I'll explain later in the thread after reviewing a number of actual shoes.

Originally Posted by sevenshooter

For Zyyt's Shoe: +51 units

Wow! +51 units is fantastic. I tried my method with this shoe and I got -24 units. Can share how you do it?

Another shoe for you to test. I got -45 units with my method.

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Your second shoe, Zyyt, scores +28 with my system.

It beats all:

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wins on half of:
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Originally Posted by mattman

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Hi Matt: +29 units

This first one was an easy one for me and my 100% mechanical system +16 units with a high of 22 and a low of -15

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Now this one was a loser and is one of the reasons I don't play this 100% mechanical system for real money. As a matter of fact, the last time I played for real money was June 2010 at the Southpoint in Vegas and I lost.

The below shoe gave me -33 and I quit at hand 36.

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The 1st two shoes are my losing shoes. How about try it on my winning shoe? I got +17 units.

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Ehtel Gaeb: First Shoe: +39 Second Shoe: +48

Originally Posted by zyyt

The 1st two shoes are my losing shoes. How about try it on my winning shoe? I got +17 units.

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B -1
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As you have it, +32

So far we've won 7 for 7, a cumulative win of +693 units

Thanks for the test. Your system is great. You can turn my losing shoes to winning and my winning shoe to better winning. Three cheers for you.

From the little red dot.

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CHERIOS!

wow all +, Great system ,please post the lose one and I can guess the system,,,, 7 shooter !

hi there,
this is the shoe from betphoenix
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here is the second shoe;
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Originally Posted by Merpholos

From the little red dot.

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CHERIOS!

Originally Posted by Merpholos

From the little red dot.

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BBBB -119, -194, -344, -494
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CHERIOS!

This shoe is as tortuous as it gets and that's a good thing: + 566 units.
Total: +1259

Have got to go for now, but Tuanle, I can already tell my system wins both of your shoes, too.

Originally Posted by sevenshooter

This shoe is as tortuous as it gets and that's a good thing: + 566 units.
Total: +1259

Interesting. We'll need to break the bank to use this system if we hit this kinda shoes.

Cherios!

Originally Posted by sevenshooter

This shoe is as tortuous as it gets and that's a good thing: + 566 units.
Total: +1259

HAHA nice 1200 unit bets there. Stop it this is just stupid. Anybody who thinks for one moment they can place 1200 unit bets is a idiot. Sevenshooter stop yanking our chain with this shit.

After going thru your way of betting, you will need a very big bank roll to play with this kind of system. It is not realistic. Even though, if you have such a big bank roll, you will hit the table limit and not allow to place your bet. No way to recover your losses. Anyway, good try.

7shooter, you have shown loss string (4 in a row) in the shoes people have post vertically (whilst wasting a lot of space) to patterns that are not this this little example you gave us.

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BBBBB -8, -24, -59, -84, -119 (some heavy betting there, did you bump into Izak at the tables by any chance? LOL)

How come?

All he is doing is betting player. Betting up when he thinks player will streak,(after 2 players) and using a delayed steep progression after any 2 losing player wagers...or close to that. Good way to throw your money away.

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Some even heavier bets, might give this a try on the .5c tables

LOL, at one point in Merpholos' shoe, the betting goes from -44, right to -644. And yeah, Free seems to be right.

Seven, there's gotta be more to this than that, right?

Originally Posted by Egalite

Some even heavier bets, might give this a try on the .5c tables

Do you find table limit $10-$5000 lol,from Hospital of crazy,

Originally Posted by Merpholos

Interesting. We'll need to break the bank to use this system if we hit this kinda shoes.

Cherios!

Yes, that is correct. However, compared with a straight-up Martingale, we would be winning 500x more units. One unit could be $1, $2, $5: whatever you're comfortable with. Had we been using a single dollar base unit we would be up more than $1200 over just eight shoes.

Originally Posted by Free

HAHA nice 1200 unit bets there. Stop it this is just stupid. Anybody who thinks for one moment they can place 1200 unit bets is a idiot. Sevenshooter stop yanking our chain with this shit.

??? Baccarat offers us unique advantages as a table game since we are permitted to bet right up to the table maximum in each seat. Two hands of $500 plus one of $200 is not unreasonable, is it? The shoe posted by Merpholos was quite atypical, yet we still managed to earn +566 units. You do have the option of cutting your progression short, you know, and using a ladder approach. What I had wanted to demonstrate was that this progression is far, far more powerful than the conventional Martingale: we are never chasing to win just one unit.