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[Archer]

How do you know what I've dumped or may have reverted back to utilising... Incidentally I don't care what other players think at the tables, what people think on forums is of less relevance.

Don't get you nose all bent out of shape, Ego. I believe you said that you had changed the way you initially flat bet your method. That's all - I just said I thought it was a good idea.

Incidentally, Ego my boy, I hope you recognized that the shoe you posted above as a good example and reason to NOT play the same static bet placement all the time. On occasion trend can really help but can do no worse. Recognize also that a conforming shoe could contain any number of iterations. A shoe with a lot of 2's and 1's rather than a lot of long streaks would also perform real well. So then "trending shoes" are not all that rare.

Just trying to help.

Archer

[swami]

Daytrader, I see no way to relate card colors to P and B results. I did spend some time looking. However, I used to have a system based on card count. Hand results are totals of 4,5, or 6 cards counting both P and B hands. This system then put the results into a grid and made decisions based on the totals. I will try to find that system and get more information.

As far as playing Pitboss, try just compiling a chart of W and L as the appear on the result chart. For instance, BBBB P would be LLL. BBp would be W and BBB would be wlw. And BBBBBBP would be LLWWWL
The above would chart LLL W WLW LLWWWL. I then bet Mongoose to win. Mongoose would LLL =-3
WWLWLLW=+2+4 -2 +4 -2-2+4. So, -3 +8 -4 +4=+5. I only bet two units at the end instead of 3x so that I do not advance the progression in case of loss. Of course this has not been tested at any length and may lose the BR. But MOngoose has 22 stages. A series of WLWLWL will do damage. If you can combine a 1-2 LW series with Mongoose, you would have a real winner.
I am now doing a lot of work with a method known as TG Target. I do not have authority to reveal this, but I am wondering if anyone knows of the BS and its success?? My testing shows promise with my W and L pattern betting. love, swami

[swami]

Daytrader, I see no way to relate card colors to P and B results. I did spend some time looking. However, I used to have a system based on card count. Hand results are totals of 4,5, or 6 cards counting both P and B hands. This system then put the results into a grid and made decisions based on the totals. I will try to find that system and get more information. Two of the totals were together against the third. I do not remember which two.

As far as playing Pitboss, try just compiling a chart of W and L as the appear on the result chart. For instance, BBBB P would be LLL. BBp would be W ppb would be W and BBB would be lw. And BBBBBBP would be LLWWWL
The above would chart LLL WWLW LLWWWL. I then bet Mongoose to win. Mongoose would LLL =-3
WWLWLLW=+2+4 -2 +4 -2-2+4. So, -3 +8 -4 +4=+5. I only bet twox units at the end instead of 3x so that I do not advance the progression in case of loss. Of course this has not been tested at any length and may lose the BR. But MOngoose has 22 stages. A series of WLWLWL will do damage. If you can combine a 1-2 LW series with Mongoose, you would have a real winner.

I have just been testing Thrapy's BS of 1-2 2-4 3-6 as described in the other discussion section. I definitely would not use Mongoose now. I would use the Therapy progression which in my limited testing seems to be fantastic. love, swami

love, swami

[Egalite]

Some great shoes 2nite.

Shoe 3;

BBBBB
PPPPPPP
BBBBB (the OLD killer)
PP
BT
PP
B
P
B
PPPPTTBT (just when you thought of switching back to OLD)
BB
PPPPP
BBBBBBBTTBT
P
BB
P
B
PP
B
P
B

sHOE "sixy"

PBPPBPPPBBTBB
P
BB
P
B
P
B
P
BT
PP
BBBB
P
BBB
P
BB
PPT
B

sHOE "SEVAN"

B
PBB
P
B
PPP
BBB
P
BB
PPPPT
B
PP
BBB
PTP
BB
P
BBBB
PPP
B
P
BBB
PPPPPPPPPPPTPPP (love those that think 'bout betting 1 side only, pulled 25 units from that run)
B
PT
BB
BT
PPPP
B
P
BBBBB
P
B
PPP
BTT


Straight after that monster run the next shoe produced this at the start of the shoe;

BBBBBTBBB (gotta love those stats guys who post the expected appearance figures for streak lengths).

Then the following shoe produced in the middle,

PPPPPPPP (that's 3 streaks of 8 minimum in the last THREE SHOES)

The next shoe only had a 5 & 6 streak, what a let down, however the final shoe made of for the last one

However the final shoe produced this;

PTPPT
BBBBBTBBBB (a "niner" streak, good follow shoe huh?)
P
B
P
B
P
BT (fuckin' oops, change to chop mode)
PPPPPT
BBBBTTBBB (double opps, nine hands and no Punto)
PP
BBBBB
P (what is the shoe doing NOW? you gotta just love trending)
BBBB
P
BB
PPP
B
P
B
P
B
P (fuck, when ya think it gonna do one thing, it does the opposite)

Now please DO IMAGINE trying to guess your way around every shoe you play and come out a winner, it would drive you LITERALLY INSANE and most probably answers a lot of unanswered questions, such as "never having seen a shoe from you know who", it would ALSO be near impossible to survive even a month of weekend action never mind six months.

You just gotta love, what I consider "sloppy shuffle procedures" applied to a six deck game...

[Archer]

Now please DO IMAGINE trying to guess your way around every shoe you play and come out a winner, it would drive you LITERALLY INSANE and most probably answers a lot of unanswered questions, such as "never having seen a shoe from you know who", it would ALSO be near impossible to survive even a month of weekend action never mind six months.

Speak for yourself. You'd think a guy who has played ten thousand shoes and has total confidence in binary tables (ahem) would not get flustered by the random patterns of the game. Yet he still switches. Why? IF it doesn't matter and just gets him confused? Because deep down he still doesn't believe his own rhetoric that's why. He still can't man up to the fact that you just might do better if you FOLLOW THE SHOE. If you try and it doesn't go your way - so what? I haven't played ten thousand shoes (ahem - who needs Zumma then, LOL) but I am personally not bothered by bet placements that don't win. If you don't want to that's fine but please quit pretending that it doesn't matter on one hand and then switch to trending on the other.

You just gotta love, what I consider "sloppy shuffle procedures" applied to a six deck game...

6 decks, 8 decks, a hundred decks - point is you just made the statement (a la Ellis) that "sloppy shuffles" impact the outcome of the game. Really? Can you elaborate what you consider the anomaly to be?

Archer

[damien]

Hi all,
Some of the bros here have reported that they are cheated by the company Baccarat Institute. (Baccarat Institute Singapore)

The students who have attended their lessons testified that their methods do not guaranteed a 100% winning as what they claim.

In fact, they have lost using their methods. And they have reported to the relevant authorities for investigation.

You may refer to the below thread for more info. Their betting method, betting amounts, etc are all revealed.

Please help to spread this to prevent more people from falling into their tricks.

Anyone heard of www.baccaratinstitute.com???

[confusedgambler]

Hi all,
Some of the bros here have reported that they are cheated by the company Baccarat Institute. (Baccarat Institute Singapore)

The students who have attended their lessons testified that their methods do not guaranteed a 100% winning as what they claim.

In fact, they have lost using their methods. And they have reported to the relevant authorities for investigation.

You may refer to the below thread for more info. Their betting method, betting amounts, etc are all revealed.

Please help to spread this to prevent more people from falling into their tricks.

Anyone heard of www.baccaratinstitute.com???

No one gives a shit. Quit spamming this shit all over the place.

[Archer]

Good old Dumbo Jimbo, whinging like a bitch, in fact you are worst than any BITCH... Who cares what I do, what I switched to or didn't, all the matters Jimmyboy is that I win, what you think I couldn't give a shit about. You have recently proved "all that you are good for", point scoring on a web forum, can't post nothing, can't share nothing, no trip report because your a fuckin' LOSER who thinks because they couldn't win, then nobody can or should be. Maybe take your time and try and have a good shit, you might feel a lot better, and stay away from those nasty casinos, remember what happened last time Jimbo.

It's not a matter of caring what you do. Recently I said the method sucks because I got pissed from all your vitriol! But if you listen to what my point is you may either agree or disagree but it still is a good point. Yeah, the OLD method is a good method. I just think that you could push it into 8 decks if need be by not closing out the 6 deck shoe. I also think a player could adjust where the flat bets and Labby's are according to the "fallout" "trend" whatever of the shoe IF it doesn't get you screwed up jumping around a bit. But I am not saying jump all over the place - just pick something once, maybe twice, go for it stick with it and better results may be had.

So as far as Baccarat goes I give credit where credit is due!

Archer

[Archer]

So you wanna talk Baccarat now? I think the personal stuff was more entertaining, it's kinda getting interesting now, with the emails, phone calls. MohaganSun been in touch yet?

You definitely are one STUPID Motherfucker if you think I am ever going to engage you in any Baccarat discussion, wouldn't be punk if I did that. Basically fuck you.

I have never been accused of not talking Baccarat even with Ellis!

LOL, If you can get MoSun to ban me that would be a real cute trick. LOL Some of the stuff you say makes me think. . . WHAT?

[Archer]

Maybe I'm trying to get your points released? LOL

LOL is right! But it is Foxwoods that don't give me points. Today I played Hold 'em down there with friends and tried again to get a slice with my points - FROZEN!

Isn't it time for your bed, John? Or am I keeping you up cause you don't want to miss anything I write?

[Killer]

cant wait for your boss to fire you
john,elglite,sting,bond,bigbadjohn,benny,Roger,and who ever else you are
great forum you are running.
Going to start erasing my threads now so people will stop coming here
Good Job John.,elglite,sting,bond,bigbadjohn,benny,Roger,an d who ever else you are

[Archer]

Boss won't fire me, good bloody money working at 4am and spending many hours on the net "if you can get it", call me Kent as in Clark

Yeah, you are lucky! Not that many all night convenience stores in that part of town. At least you are protected with all those window bars. Don't eat up all the candy bars!

[Archer]

Your a shit detective Mr Bankrupt, it should be no secret my background is IT (I've mentioned that often enough), fuck even your cousin might have figured that one out. Hey got a whistle-blower web-address for the IRS by any chance? Don't talk to me about bars on windows, you won't even answer the phone, rather let it go to voice mail, it's not always me you know, could be something important LOL

Yeah, you are IT savvy, dime a dozen these days, Mr. Convenience Store. Night shift? LOL. I thought you were a pro Baccarat player? HIgh roller, too!

Yeah, you're a nerd all right. Don't have a clue how the world works. Whistle-blower site? Yeah, probably, so. . . I don't get it! What would that have to do with an old pensioner like me? LOL You are a nerd!