Thread: Mark's Maverick Ultimate Cheat Sheet

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Has anyone downloaded this file ? Is it worth downloading?

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Originally Posted by tomddxx

Has anyone downloaded this file ? Is it worth downloading?

i dunno..but it looks like there are more ripoff complaints on the net than winning testimonials now...you go with his triggers or bet against it if your losing (duh)..
Thanks for sharing ScamBuster..

Thanks Scam!

Its funny though isn't it, that for someone that is labeled a scam here gets 100 downloads over night?

I found only two negative reports mentioned above, but that doesn't mean anything right?

Thanks again for the download, I'll try it this weekend.

Originally Posted by bacguy

Thanks Scam!

Its funny though isn't it, that for someone that is labeled a scam here gets 100 downloads over night?

I found only two negative reports mentioned above, but that doesn't mean anything right?

Thanks again for the download, I'll try it this weekend.

Can't see anybody labelling anybody a scam, we are all grown up here, so old enough to make up your own minds. If you like what you see, pay Mark a grand for some "one on one" support via his forum.

Originally Posted by Scambuster1

Can't see anybody labelling anybody a scam, we are all grown up here, so old enough to make up your own minds. If you like what you see, pay Mark a grand for some "one on one" support via his forum.

Excellent advice. Thanks again.

Hmmm, ultimate maverick looks familiar, I must say, hey hey.

Originally Posted by bacguy

Excellent advice. Thanks again.

On the other hand, you might decide after reading it, that you don't need any further coaching, or it wouldn't be worth laying out $1000.

Originally Posted by soxfan

Hmmm, ultimate maverick looks familiar, I must say, hey hey.

Familiar hell yeah..He ripped king Elsi and stole his flock..For a guy who race cars,buys whores and share cigars with celebrities... he sure has a problem putting thought on paper...all the bog this bloke wrote is always without clarity...His strategies conflicts one another.How long can u go at it thinkin all ur follow bets are gonna collect when frequency of events got 32 singles and 16 doubles per shoe..how successful is F2 workin?..follow every 2's with two bets,lose.. switch over for three more bets..( if ur ur odds on the 3's are reduced to 6 and 4's to 3 per shoe)..Looks like hes counting on a good trend to win..Other than AD.. who i believe does not play accordingly.. where are the winning testimonies that stick with the rules?( a summary judgement) or do any applies..

Yeah, I've heard that one of his keen disciples deviates a lot from Maverick due to a "gut feeling". $1000 to develop your "gut instinct" sure sounds like money well spent.

Thanks for sharing Pitty.

I'm not sure if I understand the way you played the last shoe, but I tried it using the rules the Maverick cheat sheet that Scambuster gave.

Please do not kill the messenger. I just tried to play the last shoe Pitty posted using the Maverick rules that were on here just to see if it was worth looking into any further.

I did it using the most aggressive progression that Mark put out which was a mix of a negative and slight positive progression of that U1 D2 one.

Not sure if I played it correct but following the sheet I just played non-stop since no stress as it was just a test and no real money anyway.

I ended at a +26 units.

The highest point was a +30.

The lowest it got to was 0 in the beginning of the shoe after it got to a +2.

The highest bet it got was a 6 unit bet.

I know one shoe doesn't make a solid conclusion but I must say I was amazed at how this Maverick sems to adapt to the way this particular shoe played out.

Pitty1, while I have re-read your shoes a few times, I can't make head nor tail of the bet selection, is it a version of Maverick or your own thing?

I will admit I haven't spent any time on Maverick, (only skimmed the cheat sheet) so this would explain if it is a version of Maverick why I don't get it

Originally Posted by bacguy

Thanks for sharing Pitty.

I'm not sure if I understand the way you played the last shoe, but I tried it using the rules the Maverick cheat sheet that Scambuster gave.

Please do not kill the messenger. I just tried to play the last shoe Pitty posted using the Maverick rules that were on here just to see if it was worth looking into any further.

I did it using the most aggressive progression that Mark put out which was a mix of a negative and slight positive progression of that U1 D2 one.

Not sure if I played it correct but following the sheet I just played non-stop since no stress as it was just a test and no real money anyway.

I ended at a +26 units.

The highest point was a +30.

The lowest it got to was 0 in the beginning of the shoe after it got to a +2.

The highest bet it got was a 6 unit bet.

I know one shoe doesn't make a solid conclusion but I must say I was amazed at how this Maverick sems to adapt to the way this particular shoe played out.

No killin the messenger here bacguy...good observation..at a glance the shoe bode well with just a FLD...(could not have known at the time) any loss here could be minimized with a ladder bet...really not much of a challenge offered for stop losses.I played with only 5 blacks so was not willing to challenge a unknown shoe hand per hand that could promote a possible steep progression...page 2..if i was paying more attention to the game and not the Dallas Mavericks..i may have played with a little more savy..too bad alot of those playas didn't pick up on it...I understand the mispellings with the two T's and also times the P being dropped for a SH... thanks..
thanks for posting...

Originally Posted by Egalite

Pitty1, while I have re-read your shoes a few times, I can't make head nor tail of the bet selection, is it a version of Maverick or your own thing?

I will admit I haven't spent any time on Maverick, (only skimmed the cheat sheet) so this would explain if it is a version of Maverick why I don't get it

My own thingy egalite..workin the 1's n 2's on the rows..I'll back off on impulse contaminations n keep the subject on Mavs..Be good to run some plays thru a few shoes eh?.thanks

Thanks,

(could not have known at the time)

Nice to see some realism on the board.

I could be mistaken here but is the basic bet selection regarding the mav strategy FLD n DBL? with triggers to buck u into a trend? It may have been done already.. but have simulation tests been performed of the two bet selections.. to see if one loses more than another? FLD vs DBL? say 1000 shoes? just a win loss ratio no MM? I got a bac simulator here but no manyo.
i'll bet they may be close to even.I wonder if anybody gone out and tried this mav yet?..I'm just a little spooked cause ol Vbangle got burned on it..and it also crashed under imspirits simulation...

Originally Posted by pitty1

have simulation tests been performed of the two bet selections.. to see if one loses more than another? FLD vs DBL? say 1000 shoes? just a win loss ratio no MM?

Yeah, you can find the stats on the late Mr Oops site.

Originally Posted by Egalite

Yeah, you can find the stats on the late Mr Oops site.

Thanks much Egalite..OMG what a awesome site...I heard of this oops fella moons ago.. entering a ol DOS lookin site like walkin into a mausoleum.Man this fella was crunchin data back when the pc's were clockin in the low megahertz's..cool thing his summations has stood the test of times..(i would have won my bet).Last,Reversed last,Before last, reversed before last..very dated material goes to show if you put a new name on em u can drum up sales.
all 4 choices of bet selections gives you a high probability of wins within the first 3 bets..after that the 50/50 starts goin against u.why fight it? so i guess that is the reason why with this mav is when ur losing u look back and examine ur four choices to switch..kinda like what GTG is doin(BTC spawn)..going back to a last bet or they call follow play.. would be the easiest way if the shoe is going ur way in a streak trend..but we know that does not happen all the time...don't we?..o well just a little history lesson..I think this debate been brought up before...but if you like positive reinforcement..King elsi is now boasting they close the tables down every time he walks up to one..arf arf..if he only knew how difficult it is to open one up...
MR.OOPS WAS A REALLY GOOD MAN TRYING TO HELP PLAYERS OUT...R.I.P BRO R.I.P.

Originally Posted by pitty1

Thanks much Egalite..OMG what a awesome site...I heard of this oops fella moons ago.. entering a ol DOS lookin site like walkin into a mausoleum.Man this fella was crunchin data back when the pc's were clockin in the low megahertz's..cool thing his summations has stood the test of times..

MR.OOPS WAS A REALLY GOOD MAN TRYING TO HELP PLAYERS OUT...R.I.P BRO R.I.P.

Yeah can't disagree with that, nice of others to keep his hard work still available, may he R.I.P

Can anyone send to me Mark's Maverick Ultimate Cheat Sheet? Thanks

I cannot say that I have seen the very latest Maverick updates. I practiced a lot with the charting and trying to make it a winner. I heard that BS was DBL and also anti-DBL. As far as I am concerned, Maverick is a system that simply rearranges the deck chairs, but it does not produce any kind of a winning system. If I am wrong, I would love to have new information. love, swami

As I mentioned in previous posts, in an 8 deck shoe with 416 cards ( 8 x 52 ), there are
416 x 415 x 414 x 413 x 412 x 411x 410......all the way down to 2 x 1 combinations of cards in a shoe.

That number is probably bigger than all the stars in the universe.

With so many card combinations, that's why so many "crazy" things happen in bac.

I've seen the first 10 hands were Player and the next 10 hands Banker, I've seen 17 Bankers in a row, I've seen 18 out of the first 20 hands were Player, I've seen 16 chops in a row ( PBPBPBPBPBPBPBPB ) I've seen 12 doubles in a row ( PPBBPPBBPPBB) etc etc etc.

I've seen shoes with only one tie and shoes with 11 ties.

Many posters on this forum have also witnessed similar "crazy" shoes.

It is impossible for a "mechanical" system which plays each shoe the same way to become profitable in the long run when there are so many different card combinations.

To beat bac in the long run, you will have to come up with some type of subjective bet selection based on what each individual shoe is showing you, combined with some type of up as you win or up as you lose betting progression.

And of course you need tremendous discipline to limit losses on shoes you can not beat as well as some type of profit goal for each shoe, buy-in or session.

If you get caught up in the "gambling" environment of every casino which feeds on your greed and fear, you have no chance of winning

Originally Posted by tomddxx

To beat bac in the long run, you will have to come up with some type of subjective bet selection based on what each individual shoe is showing you, combined with some type of up as you win or up as you lose betting progression.

And of course you need tremendous discipline to limit losses on shoes you can not beat as well as some type of profit goal for each shoe, buy-in or session.

If you get caught up in the "gambling" environment of every casino which feeds on your greed and fear, you have no chance of winning

Tomddxx, absolutely wonderful post, my friend. Great job. And, spot-on. That's "winner-speak" right there, my friends. Take heed, and take notice.

Subjective bet selection (read: trend).......check.
Progression....................................... ....check.
Discipline........................................ ......check.
Don't get "caught up" in the negative........check.

I like it, Tomddxx. We like it. Nice job, and thanks for sharing.

To beat bac in the long run, you will have to come up with some type of subjective bet selection based on what each individual shoe is showing you, combined with some type of up as you win or up as you lose betting progression.

There is a lot of meat in the above statement. I gave up trying to find a system that looks at BS based on Banker and Player results. I do not try to make the shoe fit my BS. I try to make the W and L potterns fit the shoe. My W and L patterns will win and lose, but in the end, I will get a pattern that will give me one coup on my Mongoose, and I end up winner. It will happen sooner or later.

I have one more suggestion. I agree that there are advantages to both progressions based on positive and negative. But why pick one or the other? Mongoose uses both to great advantage. I know Mongoose is not for everyone, but few play and most simply overlook it. l
love, swami

Interesting to notice the conman Mark has reopened his Maverick Ultimate site. Beware many have been BURNT sending this scammer their money and their complaints dismissed by ADulay.

These lowlife system hawkers are harder to kill of than Dracula! And I see the egalite got his self banned, terrible!

Originally Posted by Scambuster1

Interesting to notice the conman Mark has reopened his Maverick Ultimate site.

Got a link for the "new" site? The old one looks pretty well shut down.

AD

Originally Posted by ADulay

Got a link for the "new" site? The old one looks pretty well shut down.

AD

Have you given up your "gate-keeper" status?

Yeah I have a link, but shit, I wouldn't want to post it. Google it.

I see the scammer Mark is operating from a "free-hosted" site, on other words "no cost to him", well that doesn't surprise.

Originally Posted by Scambuster1

Have you given up your "gate-keeper" status?

Didn't realize I was a "gate keeper". I was merely a competent player. You guys all deemed me the gatekeeper I guess. For the record, I have moved on from Maverick, but it was a slow process to make sure I wasn't shooting myself in the foot.

Originally Posted by Scambuster1

Yeah I have a link, but shit, I wouldn't want to post it. Google it.

No need to be snotty. I'm aware of another site that has current and former Mav players on it. Would that be the one you're talking about?

Originally Posted by Scambuster1

I see the scammer Mark is operating from a "free-hosted" site, on other words "no cost to him", well that doesn't surprise.

Wow! What a revelation. Hmm, I've got several of those sites too, just for the smaller groups to work with in different specialties.

I didn't realize the price of the forum was the deciding factor in whether or not to learn anything!

Look at how great this "expensive" site is!!! (That's sarcasm in case you can't see it)

You guys are pretty interesting as a group. You find something to all congregate around and just beat it to death. When you run out of good things to discuss here (that happens pretty quickly) you all descend to the normal, lowest common denominator of the group. You go back to bringing up the dead subjects. I can hardly wait for the next round of "Bryan's Triggers" to come out.

AD (the new year is going well, thank you)