How to turn £75 > £5250 or $150 > $10,000+ for 28 hrs effort, 4 days work

[Blackarat]

Update:

Day 2 - won the 10 units in 1.5hrs of play. Thanks, Egalite, for sharing this strategy. I hope i can continue the winning streak. God bless and goodluck to everyone.

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[Egalite]

Update:

Day 2 - won the 10 units in 1.5hrs of play. Thanks, Egalite, for sharing this strategy. I hope i can continue the winning streak. God bless and goodluck to everyone.

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Well done, however you are not really playing it as I described, if you win for a week, will you double your stake?

I also played this a few hours ago and won 11 units, to compensate for some tie insurance bets that I made, some of which won, thankfully, which allowed me to lower the fourth bet. I see many people many real good money playing the tie

Funny way I played it, it was to simply bet he opposite column results of the preceding shoe, that seemed to work rather well

[gerard711]

Well done, however you are not really playing it as I described, if you win for a week, will you double your stake?

I also played this a few hours ago and won 11 units, to compensate for some tie insurance bets that I made, some of which won, thankfully, which allowed me to lower the fourth bet. I see many people many real good money playing the tie

Funny way I played it, it was to simply bet he opposite column results of the preceding shoe, that seemed to work rather well

So you played opposite the preceding shoe for the first 10 columns of 4 ?

[Egalite]

Yup, that's about it. I counted on the same 4 hand sequence not repeating in the next shoe at the exact same spot. So it didn't matter if both shoes had a along streak, so long as it wasn't in the same portion of the shoe. When I was making the 4 and 8 units bets, I hedged with the Tie bet, sometimes it came in, which allowed me to step down these bets (just in case), then tapped on an extra win to cover the tie wagers.

[Blackarat]

Well done, however you are not really playing it as I described, if you win for a week, will you double your stake?

I also played this a few hours ago and won 11 units, to compensate for some tie insurance bets that I made, some of which won, thankfully, which allowed me to lower the fourth bet. I see many people many real good money playing the tie

Funny way I played it, it was to simply bet he opposite column results of the preceding shoe, that seemed to work rather well

if ever i win the 70 units, maybe i wouldn't double my bet. maybe, i'll bet 1.5units instead of doubling. Congrats for winning the 11 units. Here in SG, there in no commission on betting Banker that's why my target is only 10 units.

[SpikeOut]

Hi,

What do you mean by using 4 step martingale. If i lose the first bet, i double my wager on the second bet. What if I win my first bet?

[confusedgambler]

Hi,

What do you mean by using 4 step martingale. If i lose the first bet, i double my wager on the second bet. What if I win my first bet?

Hey Spike FUCK OFF. Take your bullshit somewhere else please. Mark this day folks, this is the day this forum is doomed and it will be because if this man's utter and complete BULLSHIT that he will bombard this forum with....starting with his stupid post he made above this one. You know God dam well what a 4 step martingale is asshole. IDIOT.

[soxfan]

Oh oh, the SPIKE has joined the forum. At least the egalite will have a nemesis until garnabby jones comes back, hey hey.

PS: Hey Spikey are ya still hittin 72% pickin even chances at roulettes, hey hey?????????????????

[Edwincheng]

if ever i win the 70 units, maybe i wouldn't double my bet. maybe, i'll bet 1.5units instead of doubling. Congrats for winning the 11 units. Here in SG, there in no commission on betting Banker that's why my target is only 10 units.

Please be very wary of banker pay half at 6. This system that egalite has shared works better at commission tables. Regardless of what pattern you are playing, there will always be 1 that will wipe you completely.

Another way of betting with this is to bet against any players that have won 3 successive random bets in a row. Bearing in mind that this does not apply to the player that is betting on streaks and also, this does not apply to any player that is on a losing streak as somehow, God forbid, loser streaks tend to be longer....

[viclimks]

Hows everyone with this system?Any latest update?

[Egalite]

Hows everyone with this system?Any latest update?

I've played it twice now and won 10 units each time. Not having random.org at hand inside the casino, nor was I intending to play it, so I didn't take a set of patterns with me. So during the shuffle I wrote out a set of binary tables, assigned each a number, then choose 10 numbers from both car license plates from the car-park and roulette spins. I won 10 units at one level and 1 unit at a lower level to compensate for tax penalties (hey random is random & I needed numbers).

I'm not gunning for the £5k, maybe I should , to make approx 1120 bets and not expect to hit 4L once is a BIG ASK, which is why I have clearly stated this should be treated as a FUN BET. It will cost you nothing but tic-tock tic-tock, if you survive 1.5 shoes.

It has worked twice each time I've tried it. In all honesty you can get screwed not matter what you play (2nd line money-maker can be the 2nd line heart-breaker). This isn't pleasant due to the required 4 step Marty, as I normally double my playing level when I have a crack at this. I had to place an 8u bet a few times from the on-set, while I do all the time with the Fibonacci, for some reason I dislike doing so when using a Marty, probably due to the "double up of chip size".


If we compare the Fib against a 4 step Marty and placing an 8 unit bet;

Fibonacci
1-2-3-5 (I'm down 11 units and needing two wins for a 2u profit)

Martingale
1-2-4 (I'm down 7 units and require a single win for a 1u profit)


If we lose the 8u bet in either case;

Fibonacci
1-2-3-5-8 (I'm 19 units in the hole)

Martingale
1-2-4-8 (I'm 15 units in the hole)


It's up to you to either take the hit if 4L happens, or design yourself a recovery option for any 4 step Marty loss.



Disclaimer - Gambling can be a risky business, only gamble with what you can afford to lose.

[Egalite]

I've bumped this (despite the low rating ) because RANDOM is RANDOM, 48%-48% is 48%-48%, in the grand scheme of things bet selection is not that significant,"going with the flow of the shoe" or "pick and choose your moments" both remain flawed logic. Besides it's a very cheap shot at attempting to make 10K, even the $10 bettor I'm sure can afford making an initial $15 / $10 "per side" bet for a total risk of seventy five dollars. Sure you won't make 10G's, the odds are too long, but you never know, however survive the first day and it won't cost you a heck of a lot either. Alternatively minimise the 16/1 odds for 8/1 odds and play a 3 step Marty (RANDOM.ORG - List Randomizer).

[LoserNoMore]

You gotta be real lucky to pull this off. Four losses in a row happens all the time. But like Egalite said, the initial risk is not a lot. That being said, once you are up, that money is yours.

For the record, 75 pounds is not $150. About $115, once the banks get involved.

I would much rather add a 5th step to this progression.

Or

Use an aggressive 1, 3, 7, 15, 31. Yes, more is at risk, but it gets the job done much faster.

Final point, using the original strategy, a lot more than 28 hours would be needed to pull it off, in my opinion. I think you would need to pick your spots wisely. And this requires patience. Another word for patience is time.

[JerrySignfeld]

This system of playing works very well with very choppy results. I had great results with this after reading this post. What I do is to look for scoreboards that has dealt about 30-40-hands, and banker/player streaks not more than three. This kind of shoe is not difficult to find, because where I am playing, there are about 50 tables of baccarat tables for me to choose.

But I usually leave the shoe after winning +-10 units. Cos I may just lose the discipline and bet more than usual.

[LoserNoMore]

because where I am playing, there are about 50 tables of baccarat tables for me to choose.

Wow! Where is this? Macau?

[Egalite]

This system of playing works very well with very choppy results. I had great results with this after reading this post. What I do is to look for scoreboards that has dealt about 30-40-hands, and banker/player streaks not more than three.

It makes no difference what the shoes are doing, the odds never change from 16/1, it's random versus random with a staking plan, unless of course you don't subscribe to each hand NOT being random.

[JerrySignfeld]

It makes no difference what the shoes are doing, the odds never change from 16/1, it's random versus random with a staking plan, unless of course you don't subscribe to each hand NOT being random.

ok, I understand.

[JerrySignfeld]

Wow! Where is this? Macau?

Singapore. Marina Bay Sands. I think there are more in Resorts World Sentosa. Asians just love this game.

[LoserNoMore]

Asians just love this game.

And god bless 'em for that or else us whiteys in N. America wouldn't have this great game.

[djppoker]

Ok so i thought id try this on celticcasino JUST to see if i could complete 1 successful day... i decided to keep everything random i would go to random.org to generate a number from 1-16 so I wouldnt have to make the decision... SO, with the number generated and the sequence of my next 4 bets chosen... i opened my account and bet the VERY next hand 10-20-40-80 ... lost on the first attempt! So i thought wow that was a fluke, now i can go the next 15 or so attemptsto recover my 15 unit loss. I repeated the process, randomly generated the next sequence of 4 bets ... used it to bet the next 4 bets ... 10-20-40-80 ... AGAIN lost ALL 4 in a row... id like to ad that this was for PLAY money ... so there would be absolutely no reason they would want to cheat to take my money...

[Egalite]

That is COLD. I tried this a long time ago, and I also lost my first four bets, I couldn't believe it, I felt cursed I also continued playing but was able to win back the lost 15 units. I tried it again months later during a session in which I was struggling with and won an 12 units within the shoe, although I did hit two LLLW runs.

[swami]

Well, once again, Egalite's willingness to share and think outside of the box comes up with something novel and, perhaps, hugely profitable. I hope that all those who do testing on this method will share it with us. And, Egalite, thanks for the big print from all us old folks. love, swami

[goo]

hi, thanks for sharing Egalite, i need someone's patience to explain in simple english to me on few points,

can i play 1,2,4,8 or 1,2,4?

do i wait for 4 results in a column and start betting? e.g. BPBB than i start betting?


thank you.

[Egalite]

If you play a 3 step Marty, you are not playing with 16/1 odds, rather 8/1 odds. You already determine what 4 pattern sequences you are going to play before you enter the casino (random versus random), how you choose this is up to you, random.org is only a suggestion. I notice RANDOM.ORG - List Randomizer lacks the ability for you to bet the same sequence twice, (not necessarily a good or bad thing).

So you have you first sequence, let's say it's BBBP. So you can either (again it's up to you), bet BBBP or the opposite of BBBP which is PPPB, either way it still works out the same odds 16/1, however you are betting the next four hands won't produce BBBP or only PPPB will beat me. I personally always bet the opposite of the pattern, but that was just me. You will need to be very lucky to turn 75 into over 5 grand, but so long as you survive that first day, it won't cost you a heck of a lot trying. Some players have lost 4 bets straight off, happened to me too, other times I've won a straight 10 units. Depending on your total bankroll and if you game, you could design a recover option for a 4 step marty loss, like I said, that is optional. Re-read the entire thread for clarification.


Disclaimer - Gambling can be a risky business, only gamble with what you can afford to lose.

[Archer]

If you play a 3 step Marty, you are not playing with 16/1 odds, rather 8/1 odds. You already determine what 4 pattern sequences you are going to play before you enter the casino (random versus random), how you choose this is up to you, random.org is only a suggestion. I notice RANDOM.ORG - List Randomizer lacks the ability for you to beat the same sequence twice, (not necessarily a good or bad thing).

So you have you first sequence, let's say it's BBBP. So you can either (again it's up to you), bet BBBP or the opposite of BBBP which is PPPB, either way it still works out the same odds 16/1, however you are betting the next four hands won't produce BBBP or only PPPB will beat me. I personally always bet the opposite of the pattern, but that was just me. You will need to be very lucky to turn 75 into over 5 grand, but so long as you survive that first day, it won't cost you a heck of a lot trying. Some players have lost 4 bets straight off, happened to me too, other times I've won a straight 10 units. Depending on your total bankroll and if you game, you could design a recover option for a 4 step marty loss, like I said, that is optional. Re-read the entire thread for clarification.


Disclaimer - Gambling can be a risky business, only gamble with what you can afford to lose.

Read thru this thread yesterday. I see it kind of died. Reason is that it's bad strategy. I while back I posted a results of winning and losing in a row (WIAR, LIAR) of many mechanical methods. Done by IMspirit of Zumma, live and random shoes. Even 5 LIAR averaged about 1 per shoe. 2 5 LIAR not so common and three rare. I tried this method some time ago using folllow and opposite but did not use Marty. Did not work and I abandoned it.

I fooled around with it against BODOG random game and in small trial lost twice for every win but did better using trend - anecdotal I know.

1 shoe per day, 80 different shoes, same spot previous shoe . . . all meaningless as Egalite testifies to. Luck! But I propose that instead of random use trend will perhaps enhance luck. Some shoes ARE streaky or choppy. Most are mixed bag. We may find following current trend of chop or streak and not going longer on a side thern it has gone better. Logically cannot be worse, right? But could be better!

Further, may do better with recoup method. Higher risk. Increase bank and if lose the 15 units then bump up unit size next time and if gain enough back (sat even half of original size then switch to lower bet and see if we can climb back in the strategy at lower unit.

But I still think that this kind of betting can win if use a better prog with recoup method. Egalite seems to have a good handle on the betting and MM. Perhaps he will further enlighten this concept with some of his betting ideas.

Archer