Thread: This Forum has lost its focus

All,

I need to take a break.

The forum is now almost totally out of control and being dominated by miscellaneous writers who have no idea of what they are saying.

False statements, inaccurate statements, completely made up facts and no baccarat direction to speak of.

The forum has turned into a cheap source of comedy entertainment from the amount of odd ball postings. There are a few other baccarat forums to attend where some real information is being discussed.

Everybody is rehashing every old idea they can come up with and saying it's the Grail. NOBODY ACTUALLY PLAYS but everybody talks a great game. Anything even approaching a unique idea is shot down by a small cadre of posters who can't accept anyone else's ideas, no matter how original they are.

Well, I think I'll take a week off and just play the game quietly. No fanfare, just daily baccarat as a diversion and small profit center.

Those of you who know me will see me online on Skype anytime I'm playing online. Feel free to jump in and play the game. We'll discuss strategy while winning. It's got to be better than staying in here and reading day after day of drivel from non-players and pseudo-experts.

There is a handful of really good players in here and some of them are willing to give a helping hand, unless they get chased off by the more obnoxious members. Why everyone is afraid of change may just be one of the problems.

Close your mouths and open your minds. There is always somebody with more experience, better play methods and better ideas out there.

Look for them and learn. You may even have to make a real decision on what to do as nobody is going to hold your hand.

See you all in a week. I am outta here.

AD

Originally Posted by ADulay

All,

I need to take a break.

The forum is now almost totally out of control and being dominated by miscellaneous writers who have no idea of what they are saying.

False statements, inaccurate statements, completely made up facts and no baccarat direction to speak of.

The forum has turned into a cheap source of comedy entertainment from the amount of odd ball postings. There are a few other baccarat forums to attend where some real information is being discussed.

Everybody is rehashing every old idea they can come up with and saying it's the Grail. NOBODY ACTUALLY PLAYS but everybody talks a great game. Anything even approaching a unique idea is shot down by a small cadre of posters who can't accept anyone else's ideas, no matter how original they are.

Well, I think I'll take a week off and just play the game quietly. No fanfare, just daily baccarat as a diversion and small profit center.

Those of you who know me will see me online on Skype anytime I'm playing online. Feel free to jump in and play the game. We'll discuss strategy while winning. It's got to be better than staying in here and reading day after day of drivel from non-players and pseudo-experts.

There is a handful of really good players in here and some of them are willing to give a helping hand, unless they get chased off by the more obnoxious members. Why everyone is afraid of change may just be one of the problems.

Close your mouths and open your minds. There is always somebody with more experience, better play methods and better ideas out there.

Look for them and learn. You may even have to make a real decision on what to do as nobody is going to hold your hand.

See you all in a week. I am outta here.

AD

Ohhh? and if one drops a thousand to join Maveriks forum... its totally in focus?..Last time i checked that site.. people complaining maverick dropped out and letting players fiqure it out themselves...kinda like Elsi huh?

Originally Posted by pitty1

Ohhh? and if one drops a thousand to join Maveriks forum... its totally in focus?..Last time i checked that site.. people complaining maverick dropped out and letting players fiqure it out themselves...kinda like Elsi huh?

Years ago I tried showing somebody how to play like me, it was a total disaster. A friend told me, "how can they ever play like you, they aren't you".

What these middle agents don't realise YET, is that while they hunt around, these 'pay for view' boards operators are using their money to finance their table action. Go figure...

It might be a good idea, see you in a week Adulay. Good luck to you.

As I'm on my way out to a casino.

lol.... I think this forum is great....

I mean we don't have to talk about Casino too much....

I think we or me at least lost the chance of finding the system to beat casino...

Adulay,

is this some type of punishment? you treat forum members like all of us are your children...

Originally Posted by ADulay

All,

I need to take a break.

The forum is now almost totally out of control and being dominated by miscellaneous writers who have no idea of what they are saying.

False statements, inaccurate statements, completely made up facts and no baccarat direction to speak of.

The forum has turned into a cheap source of comedy entertainment from the amount of odd ball postings. There are a few other baccarat forums to attend where some real information is being discussed.

Everybody is rehashing every old idea they can come up with and saying it's the Grail. NOBODY ACTUALLY PLAYS but everybody talks a great game. Anything even approaching a unique idea is shot down by a small cadre of posters who can't accept anyone else's ideas, no matter how original they are.

Well, I think I'll take a week off and just play the game quietly. No fanfare, just daily baccarat as a diversion and small profit center.

Those of you who know me will see me online on Skype anytime I'm playing online. Feel free to jump in and play the game. We'll discuss strategy while winning. It's got to be better than staying in here and reading day after day of drivel from non-players and pseudo-experts.

There is a handful of really good players in here and some of them are willing to give a helping hand, unless they get chased off by the more obnoxious members. Why everyone is afraid of change may just be one of the problems.

Close your mouths and open your minds. There is always somebody with more experience, better play methods and better ideas out there.

Look for them and learn. You may even have to make a real decision on what to do as nobody is going to hold your hand.

See you all in a week. I am outta here.

AD

Originally Posted by ADulay

I need to take a break.

His own board is still dying, or why else would they keep trying here of all places? He'll be back, in one form or another.

Originally Posted by ADulay

See you all in a week. I am outta here.

Oops, what i tell you! At least they don't ask Mike to ban them anymore, and then to unban them again.

Originally Posted by ADulay

Everybody is rehashing every old idea they can come up with and saying it's the Grail. NOBODY ACTUALLY PLAYS but everybody talks a great game. Anything even approaching a unique idea is shot down by a small cadre of posters who can't accept anyone else's ideas, no matter how original they are.

Isn't it odd that you always ask when and where i'll be playing next... when i never ask you that?

Anyone stupid enough to think he can any prosper through lies like OLD sillE's is a "turd wearing pants".

I enjoy this forum, the system hawkers provide comic relief and those who don't play the game are obvious and can be easily ignored, hey hey.

Originally Posted by soxfan

... those who don't play the game are obvious and can be easily ignored, hey hey.

Like johno trying to tell me (the big) baccarat has someone on the crew to deal the cards?

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Really, it doesn't matter, and this is a public message-board... for anyone interested in baccarat, or gambling in general.

AD is just trying to work a wedge in us, to turn someone "against" me or you to him. The guy who still hasn't posted a single bit of baccarat-, or gambling, wisdom anywhere on this site... compared to a handful of mine over there years ago. Talk about a ding-a-ling hungry for more "nuts".

Originally Posted by soxfan

I enjoy this forum, the system hawkers provide comic relief and those who don't play the game are obvious and can be easily ignored, hey hey.

I agree. There is a lot of different stuff that has interest to various people. Follow the threads you like - let the rest go.

Lots of ways to play and in the end each of us has to decide how we want to play. This is not a site run by one person with one point of view.

Andy if you are not enjoying the site why not talk about how you play. Discuss bet placements and betting. I've done that, others have, too.

Archer

After reading many of the posts and comments on this form there are only a handful of you who really understand the game and can help the rest of us with your past trials and errors. So just keep on posting however good or bad it may be and let me be the judge. The few minutes that I spend on my leisure time is both entertaining and educational. Thank you.

Originally Posted by garnabby

Like johno trying to tell me (the big) baccarat has someone on the crew to deal the cards?

I play big baccarat and a lot of the time nobody wants the shoe so the dealer who is part of the 4 man crew handles the cards. I prefer it this way, especailly if you are not betting every hand, it also results in a fast game.

Originally Posted by Egalite

I play big baccarat and a lot of the time nobody wants the shoe so the dealer who is part of the 4 man crew handles the cards. I prefer it this way, especailly if you are not betting every hand, it also results in a fast game.

Which casino?

Any big Bac table in Europe, players don't always have to take control of the shoe. Have you not ever played Big Bac?

Originally Posted by garnabby

Which casino?

The Borgata in Atlantic City, the big table is always open, and I have played that way.

Foxwoods in CT, same thing.

Originally Posted by garnabby

Which casino?

Yea garnabby, Johno is right. When I play at the big bac tables the entire table gets a choice of what they want. Usually we want to touch the cards. Also if you play by yourself and bet both sides to move the shoe along then sometimes the dealer will deal both sides to speed things up. Or if I am playing against the table then I won't touch the cards, especially if people have huge bets up. That way they don't have to feel like they are playing against me.

Originally Posted by Egalite

Any big Bac table in Europe, players don't always have to take control of the shoe. Have you not ever played Big Bac?

Thought your response was suspect, especially because you didn't offer that up at Shuffle master machines , when johno (lol, good thing i quoted him there because he was so put out by it that he deleted his posts, lol,) and you and others were arguing with Mr Pink. And if you wanted to play mini-bac, why would you bother with the big table (and pretend to have played that here?) Gave you the benefit of the doubt to provide a specific casino's name, and you evaded the question.

The rules and procedures of Americanized baccarat are pretty much the same everywhere you go. It's not really even much to go on to phone up your casino to ask, what do you think they'll tell me?

Actually i have played (real big) baccarat often alone because (as you should already know if you've played it a lot,) it's not a busy game in most casinos until later at night, and the answer was always the same... do ALL the dealing yourself, or play mini-bac.

Originally Posted by John1234

Yea garnabby, Johno is right. When I play at the big bac tables the entire table gets a choice of what they want. Usually we want to touch the cards. Also if you play by yourself and bet both sides to move the shoe along then sometimes the dealer will deal both sides to speed things up. Or if I am playing against the table then I won't touch the cards, especially if people have huge bets up. That way they don't have to feel like they are playing against me.

Lol, the same way you back up GrabtheGold, Ellis, and the other scammers... so that they can return the favor?

Originally Posted by garnabby

Lol, the same way you back up GrabtheGold, Ellis, and the other scammers... so that they can return the favor?

That makes no sense. Take your pills

Originally Posted by John1234

Yea garnabby, Johno is right. When I play at the big bac tables the entire table gets a choice of what they want. Usually we want to touch the cards. Also if you play by yourself and bet both sides to move the shoe along then sometimes the dealer will deal both sides to speed things up. Or if I am playing against the table then I won't touch the cards, especially if people have huge bets up. That way they don't have to feel like they are playing against me.

Why do u call Egalite Johno?....I sound like W.C. fields when i'm drunk..

Why do u call Egalite Johno

Oh crap..did i do that? I was reading his posts and noticed how similar his writing style is to Johno's. I must have been thinking Johno in my mind as I was making that post.

Originally Posted by John1234

That makes no sense. Take your pills

I'll second that. Not often I will agree with Audlay, but this fool garnabby never posts anything relating to Baccarat, he simply trolls the web, interjecting in good threads attacking people out of context, starting flame wars, if ever I could picture a little child in a man body, it would be this clown.

Originally Posted by Egalite

I'll second that. Not often I will agree with Audlay, but this fool garnabby never posts anything relating to Baccarat, he simply trolls the web, interjecting in good threads attacking people out of context, starting flame wars, if ever I could picture a little child in a man body, it would be this clown.

I'll third that - what would this forum be like without the class clown garnabby?

Keep posting garnabby, the entertainment value is priceless and it's funny to watch youze make nonsensical comments w/r to nothing. How you manage to say so much without saying anything I'll never fathom!

Originally Posted by pitty1

Why do u call Egalite Johno?....I sound like W.C. fields when i'm drunk..

I have not dealt or play in big bacc for a while but from what I can remember the dealer have known to deal when no one wanted to touch the shoe. The game is played with four-man crew. Center dealer, right and left side dealer, the rotation dealer and of course a supervisor.
The player is offered to shoe, he may choose to bet on either banker or player. If he chooses to not touch the Shoe then it is passed on to the next player. If everyone passed the shoe then the Center dealer will sit down and deal like as if it was a medi bacc.

Originally Posted by Ihatewashingtonstate

I have not dealt or play in big bacc for a while but from what I can remember the dealer have known to deal when no one wanted to touch the shoe. The game is played with four-man crew. Center dealer, right and left side dealer, the rotation dealer and of course a supervisor.
The player is offered to shoe, he may choose to bet on either banker or player. If he chooses to not touch the Shoe then it is passed on to the next player. If everyone passed the shoe then the Center dealer will sit down and deal like as if it was a medi bacc.

Exactly, once I was the only player at a big bac table and I didn't wanna touch the shoe so one of the dealers dealt it for me. As I said, it is fairly obvious as to who, here, actually plays the game, hey hey.

Originally Posted by Egalite

I'll second that. Not often I will agree with Audlay, but this fool garnabby never posts anything relating to Baccarat, he simply trolls the web, interjecting in good threads attacking people out of context, starting flame wars, if ever I could picture a little child in a man body, it would be this clown.

Wow, that's the longest name of a casino in Europe(?) i've ever seen. More BTC "language of the scammers"?

Originally Posted by Memnoch

I'll third that - what would this forum be like without the class clown garnabby?

Keep posting garnabby, the entertainment value is priceless and it's funny to watch youze make nonsensical comments w/r to nothing. How you manage to say so much without saying anything I'll never fathom!

Wow, from another "OLD sillE" with two posts so far. At least fewer members, none this time around, are leaving after these scammer snits. And the backwash, laughable... quite pale in comparison to the Grab_the_Gold debacle. (Those were the days, lol, hard to find quality scammers and shills anymore.)

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Maybe it's time to repost that popular link about BTC again, New Blackjack, Same Old Baloney: Review of E. Clifton Davis' NBJ and WCB Blackjack Systems .

Hey Garny...Thank yourself for the Grab the Gold Debacle..A golden trophy to you... with a big knob on top to enjoy in the bathroom.

I fell in to a burning ring of fire...

A gem from Profbac to OLD sillE, at BaccaratForums.com - View Profile: Ellis :

"On a serious note, I do seem to be getting a mixture of people responding to me via PM, and I am not always sure if these folks are on the level. There are the Garnaby types, who you seem to know, but are these people dangerous in any way?"
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At the GG, Gambler's Glen Message Boards : Baccarat Message Board : More Ellis Fun , iwinbaccarat wrote:

"Garnabby,

You are questioning the intellect of those at Beat The Casino.. yet you are stupid enough to post the crimes YOU are committing, "I'm using (free) proxy-servers now to "attack" his site... think i'll sign in as Ellis_Lies tomorrow." Additionally, you openly violated the Terms of Service set forth by the owners of this site: "You must use Message Features in a responsible manner. You must not transmit any message

("Message") in connection with any Message Feature that: (i) restricts or inhibits any other user from

using and enjoying the Site; (ii) is unlawful, threatening, abusive, bigoted, hateful, libelous,

defamatory, obscene, vulgar, offensive, pornographic, profane, sexually explicit or indecent; (iii)

constitutes, advocates or encourages conduct that would constitute or give rise to a criminal offense,

civil liability or other violation of any local, state, national or international law; (iv) violates, plagiarizes

or infringes the rights of third parties including, without limitation, copyright, trademark, patent, rights

of privacy or publicity or any other proprietary right;"


Utter genius, buddy. Think "The World's Dumbest Criminals" would want to profile YOU?

Here's the link used to report your post: http://www.fbi.gov/cyberinvest/cyberhome.htm

Have a good day!"
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I went down, down, down...

Until Grab_the_Gold wrote this at Grab The Gold Shoes :

"Hey "EINSTEIN" what is your problem? I know I speak for myself and many others who have Emailed me, they are REALLY tired of your unproductive REMARKS, so put a "SOCK" in it. Nobody cares about what you have to say anymore, you have totally discredited yourself ... you have been "Challenged" by me earlier in this thread, either answer the "Challenge" or be quiet! It's really a wonder that anyone even tries to place a POST here without being "Thrashed" by Mr. "Garnabby" our RESIDENT NUT JOB.

You have contributed ZIP as far as any methods I can see, thus, YOU are the one whom has not substantiated anything from your dubious posts, so who are YOU to make any remarks here? As far as I am concerned you are just a "Wanna-Be", a self-proclaimed EXPERT, LOL, yeah right! Put your money on the table PAL, I'm READY to take you on, let's see if you have the balls to go with that BIG mouth of yours!

I apologize the other members reading this, but I have had just about enough of "Mr. EINSTEIN" here! Clearly, he hasn't "Got it to GO!"

Nuff said!

For those of you awaiting my complete breakdown of my METHOD as promised earlier today in my POST, please PRIVATE MESSAGE ME and I will select to whom my METHOD will go out to; I had planned to POST it this evening, but I will NO LONGER POST my research for guys like this to profit while criticizing me at the same time; thus if you are NOT one of the people I select to receive it, you can thank MR GARNABBY for that, he just ruined that opportunity for you! For those of you who will get the opportunity, once you see these final DIAGRAMS you will be convinced of the efficiency of these methods and will marvel at how well it really does work!"

And then decried, at Grab The Gold Shoes :

"So what do you say folks, shall we let him have the last word? I think we should! ... what prompted THIS POST of mine was an EMAIL sent to the FritsDJ@Hotmail account PRIOR to me writing this message, I think it is VERY telling of his character, YOU be the judge of his so-called "Nice Guy" image that he maintains ... here's the EMAIL!

Subj: Baccarat‏
From: Michelle and/or Mark (all4you@porchlight.ca)
Sent:Thu 11/05/09 2:56 AM
To: frits (fritsdj@hotmail.com)

What a god-damn asshole you are... fuck off, or i post some stuff "that will make even your head spin"."

Even OLD sillE got worked up at Grab The Gold Shoes , and admitted:

Originally Posted by Ellis

And I'm not a big time gambler anywhere, esp. Vegas.

At least one guy figured it out at Which Online Casino Do You Play At? , and was man-enough to up-date us on the situation, lol.

Originally Posted by NaturalNines

Well, It's great to hear from you ever since that GTG thing over a year ago, late 2009. I was wrong on that one, never got the grids down and don't think it would have worked consistently.

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And the flames went higher...

Snowman at the GG, Gambler's Glen Message Boards : Roulette Message Board : Roulette Quiz For Americans. , prouldly retorted ever-narrowly:

"Garnabby wrote, "BTW, to answer my own question (again), anti-matter has to be made in a lab, doesn't outright exist in nature">>

Garnabby,

Your comments regarding antimatter are not accurate. It is NOT only created in a lab. Research by the American Astronomical Society has discovered antimatter originating above thunderstorm clouds in the form of positrons.

And what does this have to do with roulette?

I can't find the logic in your posts because meaningful comparisons are not being made and examples are not being provided. I feel like I'm talking to a crazy person. Help us out here. What are you trying to explain?"

****** UNTIL HE READ MY REPLY, LOL. ******
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And it burns, burns, burns...

At the W's board, at Has Rob Singer ever posted using a different, unannounced alias? - Off-Topic - Off-Topic - Page 8 - Forums - Wizard of Vegas :

"Bravo, RC, something worth commenting to lately.

I don't believe i've read a single Singer and/or Logan post/reply, but that's not required to conclude the silly junk and inhabitants on the rest of this board, and more-importantly, its continued ramifications on the gullible and their dependent families, et al.

The 45 year-old "wizard" of even a few high-school math-contest problems? Seen, and competed against, 16 year-old kids who could out-perform all that in an hour. More like some 45 year-old man wasting the rest of his life. And a hypocrite to let on that he knows much about a few of the internet mental paradoxes, when in fact he doesn't even realize that (an ultimately-endless number of) the yet unsolved problems in math have NOTHING to do with the mathematical indeterminancies, such as the "indeterminant forms" or "indeterminant problems" all with an infinity of solutions until FINALLY solved. How about the Pied Piper of Vegas? Sometimes the insidious do more harm than the outright scammers.

Along with Bluejay, who can't even begin to defend his own simple words at the end of the Singer thread. Who's lying there, Bluejay?

Of the 'pitiable', or 'pitiful', or (paradoxically) both?"
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The ring of fire...

Garnabby the Plagiarist
Garnabby, I see that you are practicing Plagiarism on the internet. This has come to me from multiple faithful sources. In a way I don't blame you since you have nothing of your own to publish and thusly are reduced to quoting others who do.

The last two people who tried that ended up in US Federal Court and lost everything they owned including their computers and office equipment. No, you can't hide behind the Canadian flag. Canada has Plagiarism laws too.

Besides, you are doing the public a disservice. You are posting outdated material. Worse, a system taken out of context of a complete Baccarat course will do a player far more harm than good. They will have no idea when, where and how to use the system effectively. They will attempt it indiscriminately and lose. That will be your fault, Garnabby, not mine.

Plagiarism may seem like a harmless prank to you but bored Federal Courts love Plagiarism cases. They like to enlighten offenders to the serious nature of their crime. They come down hard.

I doubt if this news will surprise anyone on this forum or any other Baccarat forum. They all already have you pegged as a pathetic prankster rather than a serious contributer.

My lawyer, Arthur Goodman, is keeping a very interesting file on you. He made good money on the last two cases and looks forward to another. Everything you do gets back to him immediately. Also, he likes to demonstrate that the small fee I pay him to keep up my copyrights is money well spent.

This is a new low for you Garnabby. Your pathetic attemps to gain popularity are working alright but I don't think its the kind of reputation you envisioned. You are merely demonstrating that you have nothing of your own to offer and therefore must stoop to stealing the work of others - The lowest of the low. Keep it up. The bigger the file the more impressed the judge is.

To Mike and the members: that's the kind of person you allow on your forum. Proper discrimination has its benefits. ( Garnabby the Plagiarist .)

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The ring of fire...

Gizmotron wrote, at Gambler's Glen Message Boards : Baccarat Message Board : The Chicken or the Egg?....... :

"GARNABBY, you should know. You are the quintessential "chicken f**ker" on this planet."

LOL at that one too!
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I'm just a gigolo...

February 18th, 2010, 04:11 PM
Sonny
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I'll start the list with some oldies-but-goodies (and their aliases) from the past.

newbie, newnickname – Repeated personal attacks.

garnabby – Promoting bogus baccarat progression system.

SilentBob420BMFJ, helloken, I CAN DO THIS ALL DAY, Baconator, BlackJeezy – Software piracy, personal attacks.

Ion, Parpaluck, Neutron Bomb, North Wind, Fon Chee-U, Win21, suru, ZeroMystic – Promoting his bogus progression system, known troll.

JSTAT, MovieCasino$$$, moviemakerjjcasino – Repeatedly promoting and making false claims about his counting system.

InPlay, Arod, bro, bigjn, BigNJ, JEAREUS, tdetdiddy, onewizard, rushfor21, bananas, C31977 - Repeated personal attacks and threats.

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Life goes on, without me...

Originally Posted by now here

ALL SYSTEMS WORK SOME OF THE TIME.......................

NO SYSTEM WORKS ALL OF THE TIME..................

r/s

Hey, garnabby jones, what are you tryin to say, seriously? It seems you have a beef with that ellis cat but like Elvis he has left da building. I'm curious, do you ever actaully play bac, or do you just enjoy causin a ruckus?