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[ADulay]

Wow... That shoe will most likely break the majority of people rather than make them money.

How would a shoe starting with a run of 13 Bankers break anybody????

One would think even the most conservative of bettors would get a minimum of +10 out of that before the first loss!

Would anyone like to comment here and explain how you lose that shoe?

AD

[confusedgambler]

I came in late right after the fifth player hit in the first player run. I bet player lost.

And then scored about 40 units but finished around +35 units...

[dragondog]

Just an observation from watching these long runs play out. I noticed that a majority of casual and novice players in the casinos would be hesitant to ride with the streak, opting instead to bet their bank roll on it breaking.

I guess i need more time learning this game.

[pitty1]

hello excellent suggestion i just had to put in my two bits with some rudimentry comments:
EXHIBIT #1[06:00]PM "CHOI" BROTHERS [8-deck] I CUT!
VERY STRONG PLAYER SKIEW FROM [0:0] START OF SHOE!
HAND #31
4P;1B;3P;1B;2P cumulative 9 through 1x-skeiw
5B;3P CHOI BROTHERS BET AGAINST #3 HIT 9B;1P;4B cumulative 13B-1x
when choi brothers bet against #3 on hand-50; they knew what they were doing; count to nine and recognize 3:
the nine run turned up naturals or 3rd card draws to naturals, amazing!
dont sit back on you nocturnal pedistals, bet with them, or to add insult to injury, out bet them................that way you can send message that you know some tracking and betting tricks also!

EXHIBIT #2[12:30-01:30] "CHOI" GANG STRIKES AGAIN ABOUT SIX BROS IN TOTAL, With HEAD MASTER STEALING CUT, I WAS ALONE A LAST SHOE OF THE EVENING OR SHOULD I SAY FIRST SHOE ON THE MORNING I HAD BEEN PLAYING 12 HOUR SESSIONS!

I AM PERSONALLY SKEPTICAL ABOUT THIS ONE MY SELF; CAN'T PROVE IT BUT I HAVE IT RECORDED, CASINO MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN IN ON THIS ONE, SUSPICIOUS TO SAY THE LEAST UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCE:
ANY WAY HERE IT IS: CHOI HEAD MASTER FADES CUT, APPROXIMATELY A 1/3 LOWER END CUT FROM TOP OF SHOE, NOT SURE WHAT THE BURY CARD WAS, I USUALLY RECORD AND MAY STILL HAVE DATA SOME WHERE!

HERE IS WHAT HAPPENED AT ABOUT 01:30
DEALER DELT WHAT I REFER TO AS ANOTHER SLIGHTLY ALTERED CHOI PROGRESSION THIS TIME [3P;1B;3P;1B;3P] [9:3] D/3 SWITHCH TO BANK!
RAN 4B SWITCHED 1P [D/2-SWITCH][10B-6P]
RAN SOLID CYCLE RUN 10B ON PLAYER HARD TEN TALLY COUNT [WIN-LOSS] STEP COUNT!
LAST OF SHOE:
3P;1B;1P;1B;3P RUN OUT OF TIME [02:00] PM

THIS CIRCUMSTANCE CAN BE HIGHLY SUCCSSFUL IF YOUR LUCK AND TIMING IS CORRECT; OR YOU ARE WILLING TO STAND AROUND THE CASINOR FIGHTING THE HORDS FOR HOURS UNTILL YOU MAY RECOGINIZE ONE OR OTHER OF THESE TRENDS!

WORD TO THE WISE BET WITH THE CHOI BOYS, THEY HAVE BEEN COACHED FOR PROBABLY 50 TO 100 YEARS, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND THEY BET AGGRESSIVELY AND VERY SUCCESSFULLY!
phantom22 aka robert

I bet these CHOI bros partnered in AKIO's assassination...

[dsbh]

Hi experts here, just wonder anyone here noe how to read the prediction on the LG screen such as cockroachs, bead eyes, big road etc., heard that it helps

[Egalite]

Hi experts here, just wonder anyone here noe how to read the prediction on the LG screen such as cockroachs, bead eyes, big road etc., heard that it helps

You'll find it on the forum "somewhere".

Here is a shoe I played last nite.

[Bold = Win, lower case = Loss, other hands = no bet]

BBB
PP
BBBbbB
P
b
P
BB
PPp
B
PP
BBbbBB
P
BBB
P
B
p
B
PPppP
BBB
PPp
B
P

20W/10L for a nice 66% hit rate

Really weird last night, first shoe I played, produced an 11 chop run after a 4 P streak.

PPPP BPBPBPBPBPBB

The last shoe I played, started like this;

PPP BPBPBPBPBPB

uncanny

[dsbh]

You'll find it on the forum "somewhere".

Here is a shoe I played last nite.

[Bold = Win, lower case = Loss, other hands = no bet]

BBB
PP
BBBbbB
P
b
P
BB
PPp
B
PP
BBbbBB
P
BBB
P
B
p
B
PPppP
BBB
PPp
B
P

20W/10L for a nice 66% hit rate

Really weird last night, first shoe I played, produced an 11 chop run after a 4 P streak.

PPPP BPBPBPBPBPBB

The last shoe I played, started like this;

PPP BPBPBPBPBPB

uncanny

Wat system u use? Care to share?

[Edwincheng]

Hi experts here, just wonder anyone here noe how to read the prediction on the LG screen such as cockroachs, bead eyes, big road etc., heard that it helps

The Baccarat Roadmap Manual | livedealer.org

[Egalite]

Here is a shoe I played in the last 24 hours.

BBB
PTPPPPP
BBT
PT
B
PPTPPP
B
P
BTBT
P
B
PPPPP
BBBT
PPPPPP
B
PPPPPPPP
BB
PP
B
PTT
B

I mean WTF, 36 Punto's and 18 Banco's, a 2 to 1 ratio, where the hell was the Banco advantage according to the card draw. What is the SD of that?

[DiMenosCor]

Just by eyeballing it, that is not bad of a shoe. Not bad at all.

[Egalite]

It was hard for me, as I was playing "AS" I lost against the 7P streak, repeated the bet for P8 won, and then bet won the two banker bets, but the shoe overall set me back. But I can't believe the 38/18 ratio.

[DiMenosCor]

Like everything else in life there are so many ways to skin a cat in baccarat. Some patterns/shoes would be favorable to one person and not the other.

[DiMenosCor]

07242011.jpg

July 24, 2011 Foxwoods $25 Table Low Limit. Until they fully standardized the 14 card cut and remove the half to one deck cut, sticking with $25 tables. Or avoid Foxwoods all together. Now I need someone to buy all of my points!

P B P BB PP B PPP BB P BB PP B PP BBB PTPPPPPPT B PTPT B P BBBB PPP B P BB P B PP BB PT B PPPP BBBTB PP BBBB PPPP

Broke even with this shoe after commissions.

[pitty1]

July 24, 2011 Foxwoods $25 Table Low Limit. Until they fully standardized the 14 card cut and remove the half to one deck cut, sticking with $25 tables. Or avoid Foxwoods all together. Now I need someone to buy all of my points!

Sorry ...i read the cut wrong...was it the TT's that set ya back?

[DiMenosCor]

07242011A.jpg

Also July 24, 2011 at Foxwoods $25 Table Low Limit. If more shoes were like this. Used a different form of recording to capture different kind(s) of patterns from the Dots Method since the dot system recording was not working for me. Decided to use the Arrow Method hopefully something comes up and luckily something did.

P B P B PP BB P B PP BBBB PTPPPP BTBBBBBBBBB PPP B PP B PP B P B PPT BTBBB P BTBBB PP B P B PPPPTPPP B P BB PP B PP BB PPPP

+7 units.

[thecomebackkid]

1. PLAYER N/B.
2. BANKER N/B.
3. PLAYER N/B.
4. BANKER N/B.
5. PLAYER N/B.
6. PLAYER N/B.
7. BANKER N/B.
8. BANKER BET PLAYER -1.
9. PLAYER BET BANKER -2.
10. BANKER BET BANKER -1.
11. PLAYER BET PLAYER 0.
12. PLAYER BET PLAYER +1.
13. BANKER BET BANKER +2.
14. BANKER BET PLAYER +1.
15. BANKER BET BANKER +2.
16. BANKER N/B. +2.
17. PLAYER BET PLAYER +3.
18. PLAYER N/B. +3.
19. PLAYER BET PLAYER +4.
20. PLAYER BET PLAYER +5.
21. PLAYER BET BANKER +4.
That was a nice shoe playing my strategy. It would be good to encounter them on a regular basis.

[DiMenosCor]

07302011A.jpg

p bbbb ppp b pp b ppp bb p b p b p bbbb ppppt bb ppt bbbbb pttppp bbbbbtbb ppppttpppp b pppp b

I need more shoes like this. If this happens more often I don't have to stare at the screen all day long looking for ceiling and support setups.

07302011B.jpg

bttbb p bbb pp bt bbbtbbb p b p bbtb ptppp bbtb p btb p b p bb p btbt ppptpp bb p bb pp btbbb p bbb ppp b ppp


Wanted to head to Sands, PA last night but the only choice was to sit in the back near the bathroom. Ewwwww..... well this is what happens when you are just a weekend warrior as opposed to a constant regular five to seven days a week.

Decided to bite the bullet and head to Foxwoods with a somewhat dreaded feeling. As fate would have it sometimes the moment you thought the odds are somewhat against you Lady Luck throws you a bone.

[TeddyKGB]

Hello DiMinos,

Your recording looks very interesting and not something I have encountered at all. Do you mind sharing how you win with this? It looks like you can consistently win. Do you flat bet or do you use a progression? What are those diagonal lines use for at the bottom if you don't mind me asking.

Thank you very much.

[DiMenosCor]

Was at Sands, PA yesterday. Only played one shoe at a $25 Table. Don't think I would be heading back ever since I find the crowd to be very low class especially those idiot frat boy types roaming around causing trouble. First time I am at a casino and I had to have security involved. Plus the food sucked. Another first at a casino.

Yet the dealers and supervisors are better than what you will run into at CT and AC. If you play at the high limit tables which has 8 of them, they have unlimited free hands.

Lost $86 including commissions and tip.

P B PP BBBBBB P B P B PP BTBB P B P B PPPPTP B PP B P BBB P BB PP B P BB PPP BBBB P B P BBB P BB PP BBBT

The last hand which was a T pissed me off. From my patterns there was the trigger to bet Player, so I put $25 on P. Two cards for Player came out to a 5 and a 4, a "guaranteed" win. Then Banker got a 9 and a 0. Major WTF. Outcomes like this get me really irked so I see this as a non-losing stop loss and just took the $86 loss and call it a day.

Back to Foxwoods next weekend since found a way to play the half to one deck cut.