Anyone Else a Full-Time Baccarat Professional?

[soxfan]

I wouldn't even bother for free and use the dollar sign in front next time or else people will "know" you're a Scammer. Such a cheap douche you are.

That's it Nines, stick around these forum long enough and maybe just maybe somebody will provide you with that Holy Grail, yes. hey hey

Maybe if yer nice the PROFBAC ap wiseguy will provide you with his card counting method.

[NaturalNines]

That's it Nines, stick around these forum long enough and maybe just maybe somebody will provide you with that Holy Grail, yes. hey hey

Maybe if yer nice the PROFBAC ap wiseguy will provide you with his card counting method.

Thanks for those words maybe I will. I might just take a break here and there and drop in again just to see how the cheap douche is doing. Did you like the salt? That's what happens to liars they swallow salt among other things

[soxfan]

Thanks for those words maybe I will. I might just take a break here and there and drop in again just to see how the cheap douche is doing. Did you like the salt? That's what happens to liars they swallow salt among other things

If you ever come to Canada then maybe u can eyeball my play in person, but maybe for 10 years so you can be sure I win in the "LONG RUN", yes. Just don't crowd me or look over my shoulders, please. Like the obama voter say, keep it real, yo!!!!!!!!!

[NaturalNines]

If you ever come to Canada then maybe u can eyeball my play in person, but maybe for 10 years so you can be sure I win in the "LONG RUN", yes. Just don't crowd me or look over my shoulders, please. Like the obama voter say, keep it real, yo!!!!!!!!!

Should I bring the salt? In 10 years? Really? Is it going to take that long for you to figure out how to win? Or is that when you go broke. All right douche.

[soxfan]

Should I bring the salt? In 10 years? Really? Is it going to take that long for you to figure out how to win? Or is that when you go broke. All right douche.

Yer a funny dude Nines, you've been on this forum for over a year, never started a single thread but you lots to say, yes? hey hey

[NaturalNines]

Yer a funny dude Nines, you've been on this forum for over a year, never started a single thread but you lots to say, yes? hey hey

Thanks for the compliment, didn't know you were a fan. Are you sure I haven't been on the forum since 08? instead of 09? I like to evaluate things and examine them. You're funny also, not a compliment.

[soxfan]

Thanks for the compliment, didn't know you were a fan. Are you sure I haven't been on the forum since 08? instead of 09? I like to evaluate things and examine them. You're funny also, not a compliment.

Ah yes u are the thinker, like Plato and Aristotle, yes. So, will it be the original recipe or extra crispy from the KFC???

[NaturalNines]

Ah yes u are the thinker, like Plato and Aristotle, yes. So, will it be the original recipe or extra crispy from the KFC???

Hahaha I like that one. I like mine grilled thanks and not KFC. Ahhh, a light moment. Take that order please.

[DiMenosCor]

Another BaccaratForums Bromance moment......

[philipph]

my favorite quote, this came from my favorite radio host "there is one guy jump off the cliff and survived.. but it doesn't mean you should do that same..."

very true, I guess the radio host forgot to tell you that there is a million dollar reward if he survived and make it in one piece.

[jimng]

My method of play is modeled after blackjack card counting, so it is
obvious to surveillance and dealers who have been trained to watch for blackjack card counters.

It was not the amount of winnings as much as the amount of the bet that
got them nervous. Actually, I didn't get any heat until I started raising
my bets from a minimum of $25 to over $300. At the Taj, they put a limit when I went up to $1,000 and won a streak of six hands.
They said that I was losing the $25 bets and winning the $1,000.

At Showboat, I play at the $50 midibac table and go up to $500.
They told me a 10 to 1 spread was ok, as long as they didn't tink I was working with a team.

Today I spread my play around much more. If I win $3,000, I go to another casino.

Last year I did post the story of getting barred in Las Vegas at the Treasure Island Casino. I walked out of there with $24,000 all won
on the tie bet at the end of the shoe. It is very rare for me to bet the tie,
but I estimated that the only cards left in the shoe were tens and possibly an eight or nine. I hit two ties at the last two hands. Six monkeys followed by six monkeys. This was in the high limit room, $100 table.
The dealer and floor person, who were very friendly were amazed and said
"you are very lucky or very good." As the dealer took out the last cards from the shoe I asked If I could see them. The floor person said no. I looked at the dealer and said "you are holding face cards and an eight."
She and the floor person looked, smiled and said I was in deed very good.
I sat down waiting for the next shoe when the floor person handed me an envelope with the Tresspassing notice, and said, "if we ever see you here again, you will be arrested for tresspassing." That was my fault. I was showing off.

Profbac,

I am very shocked to hear that casinos in vegas ban people who just win USD10k or 20k, you can come to my home country -Singapore, we have 2 pretty big casinos .....i guess no one will bother u even if u win USD10k or 20k daily consistently.

as long as u don't cheat, they can't ban u. good luck!


Jim Ng

[Profbac]

Profbac,

I am very shocked to hear that casinos in vegas ban people who just win USD10k or 20k, you can come to my home country -Singapore, we have 2 pretty big casinos .....i guess no one will bother u even if u win USD10k or 20k daily consistently.

as long as u don't cheat, they can't ban u. good luck!


Jim Ng

1. I remember a time when good blackjack card counters would get beaten up for winning $10k.

2. They are mostly concerned that the person able to beat the game will show up with a team of players who will know when to bet very large amounts.

[jimng]

1. I remember a time when good blackjack card counters would get beaten up for winning $10k.

2. They are mostly concerned that the person able to beat the game will show up with a team of players who will know when to bet very large amounts.

OK. noted..so i guess should not have problem with baccarat..good to hear tat


Jim

[Egalite]

I guess that was the general consensus then hey hey

[GBV]

I drawn my income for periods of months lasting up to year. Some of this was very high-stakes play using
card-counting methods-there's a lot of money in that but it is a very volatile way to make a living.

Some of it was actually very silly petty hustles. Back around 2004 you could make quite a good living online
just betting bank and player to qualify for bonuses.

There are very few players who draw their income solely for baccarat. The reason is that if you have the
skills to baccarat you can probably beat pretty much anything. Sometimes there will be more money to
be made at blackjack, poker, sports, even slots and crap like that when there is some great promo or whatever.
You go where the money is.

The only people I know of who do this professionally full-time are card-counters who can't grow their
bankrolls fast enough doing anything else because the table maxes are higher at bac. You'd never work out
who those people are, they are very discreet.

[Profbac]

The reason is that if you have the
skills to baccarat you can probably beat pretty much anything. Sometimes there will be more money to
be made at blackjack, poker, sports, even slots and crap like that when there is some great promo or whatever.
You go where the money is.

The only people I know of who do this professionally full-time are card-counters who can't grow their
bankrolls fast enough doing anything else because the table maxes are higher at bac. You'd never work out
who those people are, they are very discreet.

Interestingly, the people that I know who have developed card counting to run a positive EV at baccarat are full time hedge fund managers making more money than any known full time gamblers.
They do play baccarat on weekends and some week nights, but thet would not say they are professional baccarat players.

Some of the best poker players are not professional poker players. They are busy running businesses and negotiating deals.

[GBV]

nterestingly, the people that I know who have developed card counting to run a positive EV at baccarat are full time hedge fund managers making more money than any known full time gamblers.
They do play baccarat on weekends and some week nights, but thet would not say they are professional baccarat players.

Some of these guys are gorillas who lost a bundle playing badly and hooked up with the "right" people.

Some of the best poker players are not professional poker players. They are busy running businesses and negotiating deals.

With poker, "best" is relative. There are guys who have a very high level of technical proficiency grinding 1/2 to pay the bills.
Then there are guys who would only be mild favourite playing me heads-up, but who are excellent at securing private matches
against high-rolling fish. The latter group invariably make the big money. Finding fish is more important than skill.

Baccarat isn't really like that. Technical proficiency is more important than anything. The guy who can memorize tens of thousands
of combinations and memorize eight packs of cards, calculating edge and betting accordingly at the death of the deal, is always
going to be the one who ends up richest.