Thread: Down goes the casinos...

Pm me and we'll go on dublinbet and I'll show you how baccarat is beaten, flat betting, for as many shoes as we have time for, for FREE! What's my motive? I've made so much money from the casinos and I hate them. With a passion. I want everyone to take money from them. They've ruined so many lives with their bullshit games, convincing people that they can win. Taking money from elderly, sickly, handicapped, they are ICE fucking cold. Hey casinos? Ready for war? Pm me if you're a freedom fighter. If you're a chicken shit? Then don't pm me and keep trying to beat baccarat with your bullshit systems and failed attempts that you all know don't work in the long run. I've sifted through the trash on this site. None of that shit works people. It's all a bunch of distorted nonsense that will lose to the house in the long run. If you're offended by this? Then don't pm me, you'll never win. There's only one way to win at baccarat. Only one way to win at craps. Only one way to win at roulette.

Yes and yes, i am a freedom fighter. Is this going to come with a price for a freedom fighter?

Originally Posted by joshky

Yes and yes, i am a freedom fighter. Is this going to come with a price for a freedom fighter?

is it a quotation?
why not share for discuss ?
discount ?%
FoB ?
Term of payment ?

I watched him play online. It's a very simple, flat bet, follow the repeats type system. I wasn't able to pick up his triggers but it was up a few units in two shoes. He gave me a price but I am not paying big money for another system when there are 1000's for free.

Originally Posted by DAWGPEN

I watched him play online. It's a very simple, flat bet, follow the repeats type system. I wasn't able to pick up his triggers but it was up a few units in two shoes. He gave me a price but I am not paying big money for another system when there are 1000's for free.

$75 is big money?

You did, of course, keep a copy of the shoe you played, right?

AD

Originally Posted by ADulay

$75 is big money?

AD

Who said anything about it being 75? He wants much more

AD is probably referring to Ryan.

Originally Posted by DAWGPEN

I watched him play online. It's a very simple, flat bet, follow the repeats type system. I wasn't able to pick up his triggers but it was up a few units in two shoes. He gave me a price but I am not paying big money for another system when there are 1000's for free.

This is not entirely true. The system is not simple. You don't follow the repeats, or chops. Or run. You follow the right side, based on a specific trigger. It's not a follow the repeats system.

Do try to follow the repeats and win, I can tell you that you will lose unfortunately. I'm glad that you think it is a follow the repeats type of system. That reconfirms with me that no one will figure the system out by just seeing it being used.

Second, we were up more than a few units. This individual even admitted in the message we exchanged on messenger that his dublinbet and computer froze and he missed and/or did not actually track a few hands. In an essence, this individual did not seem take what we did seriously, and will not win. Dont be offended by this dawgpen. I'm merely speaking facts.

There is another member on this forum who just did the same dublinbet scenario and actually tracked the winning and losing hands. This is not a shoe by shoe system. You will be up every total amount of hands. You will win 75% or more. Why doesn't anyone who believe dawgpen come onto dublinbet and find out for themselves. I will be back in about 30 minutes, I need to get something to eat.

Originally Posted by beatingbaccarat

This is not entirely true. The system is not simple. You don't follow the repeats, or chops. Or run. You follow the right side, based on a specific trigger. It's not a follow the repeats system.

Do try to follow the repeats and win, I can tell you that you will lose unfortunately.

Second, we were up more than a few units. This individual even admitted in the message we exchanged on messenger that his dublinbet and computer froze and he missed and/or did not actually track a few hands. In an essence, this individual did not take what we did seriously, and will not win.

There is another member on this forum who just did the same dublinbet scenario and actually tracked the winning and losing hands. This is not a shoe by shoe system. You will be up every total amount of hands. You will win 75% or more.

No offense and I appreciate your time showing me but I have been playing and working on systems for years. I am pretty sure I understand what you were doing. I am not saying it's bad but before I would invest that kind of money in a strangers system I would like to see documented results.

I have a good friend in florida who created a system. It uses a martingale progression and he bets 1-2-4-8. He has a very complicated trigger system and gets about 5-6 series per shoe. He is currently at 350 series wins to 1 loss. I could get this system for free if I jumped on an airplane tomorrow but I know that he has just been lucky and it's a matter of time.

Also, if the system is so good, why sell it to the public? I can assure you that If I had the "holy grail" I wouldn't be selling it on a public forum.

"very complicated trigger system" Great point about your friend. For his sake I hope that he doesn't get wiped out. Anyway that is what I see a lot of around here...people trying to turn the player/banker stream into the most complex thing around. I have been there in the past and I actually found that the more complex that I got, the less realistic I became which had an overall negative affect on my game. I see people winning (some are consistent) and they play simple baccarat. I got away from the complex stuff when I realized that I could spend more time actually learning the game and that helped me a great deal. Before I conclude I just want to mention one more thing about being realistic. I am pretty sure that most casinos would have beaten us to the punch with the whole coming up with a complex way to beat the game. If there was some magical formula out there then I think that the game would not exist. I could be wrong and if so then I guess that I am missing out on wasting my time looking for the magic formula because I am too busy winning with an simple approach. Actually i am starting to notice less and less baccarat tables in casinos. Considering the fact that most people take a simple approach to the game, maybe baccarat is not so profitable for casinos anymore.

Originally Posted by DAWGPEN

No offense and I appreciate your time showing me but I have been playing and working on systems for years. I am pretty sure I understand what you were doing. I am not saying it's bad but before I would invest that kind of money in a strangers system I would like to see documented results.

I have a good friend in florida who created a system. It uses a martingale progression and he bets 1-2-4-8. He has a very complicated trigger system and gets about 5-6 series per shoe. He is currently at 350 series wins to 1 loss. I could get this system for free if I jumped on an airplane tomorrow but I know that he has just been lucky and it's a matter of time.

Don't dream first
,my friend win 300days and lose in 10 days all, using 1,2,4,8,
so better you discussing at this forum.which is the weakness
gambling no cry and no laughing,
happy 3 days sad 5days

Originally Posted by DAWGPEN

Also, if the system is so good, why sell it to the public? I can assure you that If I had the "holy grail" I wouldn't be selling it on a public forum.

No progressions. When you win with flat betting and keep doing for over 4 years, the luck factor is no longer is valid. You have defeated the game.

Originally Posted by fauzy

Don't dream first
,my friend win 300days and lose in 10 days all, using 1,2,4,8,
so better you discussing at this forum.which is the weakness
gambling no cry and no laughing,
happy 3 days sad 5days

Dont ever use a progression. Any progression that is needed to win with your system just means your system is a loser and the progression is only keeping you from coming face to face with the house.

You must win flat betting to win.

It is interesting enough.. those who declare themselvesthey have winning system never even try to share the system... ask for PM or money....

and as member said if there is winning system.. why bother sell it??

i mean if you know the winning number for tomorrow.. would you sell to people for $80?

people calm down and think clear again...

rule #1
never spend penny on system...

there are so many great system out here for "FREE"

why not trust them? or listen to the legend who brought us great information for FREE....

yes Bryan ask us to PM him for trigger, but he gave lots of information about his system.... no doubt about it....

people again... do not spend penny on system.. please.....

Originally Posted by Joker

It is interesting enough.. those who declare themselvesthey have winning system never even try to share the system... ask for PM or money....

and as member said if there is winning system.. why bother sell it??

i mean if you know the winning number for tomorrow.. would you sell to people for $80?

people calm down and think clear again...

rule #1
never spend penny on system...

there are so many great system out here for "FREE"

why not trust them? or listen to the legend who brought us great information for FREE....

yes Bryan ask us to PM him for trigger, but he gave lots of information about his system.... no doubt about it....

people again... do not spend penny on system.. please.....

Don't pm me to purchase anything from me. Pm me to see baccarat can be beaten.

Wow somebody else who is beating the casino's (well on-line at least) and not only Baccarat, and "no surprise" in a converluted way, wants your money to reveal how it's done.

Go figure.. Pay ANY money to ANY ONE and you get what you deserve.

Originally Posted by fauzy

is it a quotation?
why not share for discuss ?
discount ?%
FoB ?
Term of payment ?

A system seller with a twist. The rant appeals to the meek and you jump on the bandwagon - then it's $ for info.

EIRESCOTT

Originally Posted by beatingbaccarat

don't pm me to purchase anything from me. Pm me to see baccarat can be beaten.

hi,
i,m interested in your baccarat system:may you help me?
Best regards.
Piero

Oh quit the bitching guys.

This isn't for the meek, or the false, or for the believers in fake, every day "supposedly beat the house" systems. I'm gonna repeat "Don't pm me to purchase anything..." Don't contact me looking to spend any money. Contact me to see me beat this game and learn how to do it yourself. DON'T ASK ME HOW MUCH! I gave dawgpen a price because he consistently insisted on asking me "how much". No matter how many times I avoided the question and told him to stop asking me, and just watch it work. He was also being very silly and not taking anything we did seriously. No offense. Bottom line? I'm not selling anything. .....I bet that burns your insides huh guys? I've got the golden goose, and I'm giving it away for free! Oooohh, that's gotta hurt!! Freedom fighters? We're taking down the casinos. Pm to fight! Don't want to be a part of it? Stay here and keep trying to "beat" the house with garbage.

Originally Posted by beatingbaccarat

Oh quit the bitching guys.

This isn't for the meek, or the false, or for the believers in fake, every day "supposedly beat the house" systems. I'm gonna repeat "Don't pm me to purchase anything..." Don't contact me looking to spend any money. Contact me to see me beat this game and learn how to do it yourself. DON'T ASK ME HOW MUCH! I gave dawgpen a price because he consistently insisted on asking me "how much". No matter how many times I avoided the question and told him to stop asking me, and just watch it work. He was also being very silly and not taking anything we did seriously. No offense. Bottom line? I'm not selling anything. .....I bet that burns your insides huh guys? I've got the golden goose, and I'm giving it away for free! Oooohh, that's gotta hurt!! Freedom fighters? We're taking down the casinos. Pm to fight! Don't want to be a part of it? Stay here and keep trying to "beat" the house with garbage.

If you are giving it away for free then just post the method. There was no point in making me watch you play and then asking me to pay 650.00

Originally Posted by DAWGPEN

If you are giving it away for free then just post the method. There was no point in making me watch you play and then asking me to pay 650.00

No, it's going to happen this way. Do you really think anything that really works will just get posted in a LIVE forum, where casino personel frequent constantly out of fear of losing the gamble? Baccarat is a big gamble for the casinos as well. Which is why they cheat, and, highly watch baccarat tables. They have a house edge, but, still, the game is very beatable. They know this. So they have to alter the deck slightly. Keep it from being "fixed". Or "trackable". It's still beatable however, but, not for the mass of course. It will be done one way and one way only. Don't ask me anything about price or what I want for it. I threw that number out there to get you to stop asking me that question. You want to be a freedom fighter? Pm me. And stick it out. Those who actually stick it out will learn the system. Not those wanting to slightly watch a few hands and beg me for a price. I'm not selling it.

Originally Posted by beatingbaccarat

Don't pm me to purchase anything from me. Pm me to see baccarat can be beaten.

please share your system .. I am really interested your system .. it sound very good ..

Well I've been watching this guy play for 2 days now and he definitely has something. I'm not saying it wins like he claims yet but it isn't complete bullshit either.

Originally Posted by vbangle

Well I've been watching this guy play for 2 days now and he definitely has something. I'm not saying it wins like he claims yet but it isn't complete bullshit either.

Well, even if it won 1 unit per shoe it would be a gold mine. I have yet to see anything that actually wins in the long run.

Originally Posted by Joker

It is interesting enough.. those who declare themselvesthey have winning system never even try to share the system... ask for PM or money....

and as member said if there is winning system.. why bother sell it??

i mean if you know the winning number for tomorrow.. would you sell to people for $80?

people calm down and think clear again...

rule #1
never spend penny on system...

there are so many great system out here for "FREE"

why not trust them? or listen to the legend who brought us great information for FREE....

yes Bryan ask us to PM him for trigger, but he gave lots of information about his system.... no doubt about it....

people again... do not spend penny on system.. please.....

Thank you very much Joker. I wished I had this knowledge or read this kind of thread prior to spending so much money for the junk out there.

Originally Posted by bhumibol

Thank you very much Joker. I wished I had this knowledge or read this kind of thread prior to spending so much money for the junk out there.

If anyone here had a real winning method, they would no longer frequent here. Unless they had some other motive.

you're very welcome Bh....

exactly.. if people are too busy making money... why bother come here and argue with members? i would rather be making lots and lots of money at casino then arguing member here who attack you....

and make sure start with very very small unit possible.... because if the system is great one you can win with starting with Penny.... no kidding.....

and make sure follow who actually won in long time.....

and you can kind of tell this person is real or fake.... usually those hide the system and tell how much he won at casino isn't really good...

say if I won a lot at casino.. I would give lots of hint to members here...

for instance, i would tell them.. i did use flat betting and this unit and watching trend and etc etc..... you should focus on these stuff and etc....

i would give good amount of hint.. i may not give 100% but they can at least get good idea what i did.. this is what I would do.....

because no matter what you do.. there is going to a person who lose...

I tend to like one side betting.. like Bank bet only.. it is much more simple this way... livegame and mr Bryant do the same.....

if bet both side then has a lot more chance to lose and get confused.....

Originally Posted by Joker

you're very welcome Bh....

exactly.. if people are too busy making money... why bother come here and argue with members? i would rather be making lots and lots of money at casino then arguing member here who attack you....

and make sure start with very very small unit possible.... because if the system is great one you can win with starting with Penny.... no kidding.....

and make sure follow who actually won in long time.....

and you can kind of tell this person is real or fake.... usually those hide the system and tell how much he won at casino isn't really good...

say if I won a lot at casino.. I would give lots of hint to members here...

for instance, i would tell them.. i did use flat betting and this unit and watching trend and etc etc..... you should focus on these stuff and etc....

i would give good amount of hint.. i may not give 100% but they can at least get good idea what i did.. this is what I would do.....

because no matter what you do.. there is going to a person who lose...

I tend to like one side betting.. like Bank bet only.. it is much more simple this way... livegame and mr Bryant do the same.....

if bet both side then has a lot more chance to lose and get confused.....

You can't bet banker only and win long term. It's not possible. I doubt anyone has done that for more than a year.

Originally Posted by bhumibol

Thank you very much Joker. I wished I had this knowledge or read this kind of thread prior to spending so much money for the junk out there.

Stay away from any and all progressive systems. They will never beat the house. Only appear to beat the house. For a very long time. The real way to beat baccarat is with flat betting. Anyone who tells you different is a scammer, or lying to themselves.