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    Despite the proof less baseless negative stuff posted about me, I've made a breakthrough in baccarat.

    My team is cleaning up. We're making 50%+ of our buyin 8-9 out of every 10 shoes we play. So if we sit down with $4000, we win $2000 and get up, or lose $2000 and get up. We've gone 25 shoes straight without a losing shoe. And have gone 6 winning, 2 losing, 3 winning, 1 losing, 5 winning, no losing on swing days. Flat betting, no progressions. We use a bet selection no one ever thought would work in baccarat. Yes it does! I will never sell this system. It's not a unit for unit. Bankroll for bankroll system. We make our "Flat bets" based on the selection needed for that specific occurrence. In other words, the system is NOT mechanical at all. There is no mechanical system, player system, banker system, that will win long run. Some bets we make are $200. Some bets we make are $50. Some bets we make are $400. Some bets we make are $300. Some bets we make are $150. Some bets we make are $800. It is based on the selection needed for that specific occurrence. No progressions, but, set bet amounts for the different occurrences that are driven by the shoe. They happen at random instances. And we treat them differently each and every time. We've already done 4500 live shoes between the team and have maintained this current win rate of success.

    I would like to take a few people onto dublinbet and show you the system works. Mainly, to show you guys...baccarat is BEATABLE. I believe my team will be the reason, if any, for the casinos to change the way baccarat is played. For the first time in history. If not? We'll make a fortune off the game forever.

    If we setup a dublinbet appointment ill sit through as many shoes as you want. As long as I have the time. I will not quit during any one shoe. But may leave after 1-2 completed shoes if I have something else to do. Please, I repeat, please do not offer me anything (no amount of money or other systems) in exchange for the system. You MAY however, be able to be a part of my team.

    Feel free to pm at any time for a dublinbet appointment.

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    Does your team ever play in Sands Beth? If I spot you one day then I will happily point out that your team wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John1234 View Post
    Does your team ever play in Sands Beth? If I spot you one day then I will happily point out that your team wins.
    We play mostly in foxwoods and atlantic city. We took a trip to vegas last weekend. It was amazing!

    You won't really be able to "spot our team", lol. BUT, if you spot ME, don't point out my winning, just sit down and start winning with me!

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    There's no need to be secretive about your winning system. Bryan's shared his strategy. I've given out mine at no cost. We've done this to try to help others avoid the common pitfalls gamblers encounter.

    I like your ideas about the merits of flat-betting as opposed to running lengthy and potentially disastrous progressions. Why not contribute to the forum and tell us how you're making money? Otherwise, your thread is just a teaser.

    Also, the only exploitable bias in Baccarat is to always bet Banker, preferrably in EZ Baccarat (no commission). This is the incontestable truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sevenshooter View Post
    There's no need to be secretive about your winning system. Bryan's shared his strategy. I've given out mine at no cost. We've done this to try to help others avoid the common pitfalls gamblers encounter.

    I like your ideas about the merits of flat-betting as opposed to running lengthy and potentially disastrous progressions. Why not contribute to the forum and tell us how you're making money? Otherwise, your thread is just a teaser.

    Also, the only exploitable bias in Baccarat is to always bet Banker, preferrably in EZ Baccarat (no commission). This is the incontestable truth.
    Sevenshooter, your right. Liar is a liar, cheater is a cheater and do not ever believe the blood sucker such as THEGOAL, or Hasaan Steel. If he is winning, or has a winning system, he would quietly play the game a lone. He is still taking the train to AC when he can find $200 bankroll to play. I am dead serious that whatever money he gets is from cheating others. No, this is not meant to sabotage him, but to let other know not to fall in his bait like I did once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhumibol View Post
    Sevenshooter, your right. Liar is a liar, cheater is a cheater and do not ever believe the blood sucker such as THEGOAL, or Hasaan Steel. If he is winning, or has a winning system, he would quietly play the game a lone. He is still taking the train to AC when he can find $200 bankroll to play. I am dead serious that whatever money he gets is from cheating others. No, this is not meant to sabotage him, but to let other know not to fall in his bait like I did once.
    You are sure about this?

    Put your money where your mouth is "BOND". Come meet me in new york, at my apartment, before I go to ac. I'll let you use my camcorder to record the entire trip. What vehicle we use, how many people are in my team, and how much money we use. 200 pennies, and a greyhound bus! ......Get real!!!

    But if you want to, get off your ass, quit running your mouth, and put your money where your mouth is! I'll let you take home my camcorder so you can post the video! And if we ride on a bus, with $200, I will give you $5k!

    Well mr. "Big dawg", why don't you come up with some proof of my "blood sucking ways" instead of trying to "not" "sabotage" me.

    Oh....that's right, there IS no proof. Listen, bond, you are going to have to get over the fact that you spent a few hundred on a flight for me to meet you in seatle (this was YEARS ago, and there were many reasons I could not make it), and that you proceeded to LOSING $3000 on your OWN at the casino out of ANGER. That is NOT my fault! You want the money back for the flight??? That's ALL you had to say, rather than coming on here, posting "blood sucker" and "liar, liar". I am and always have been willing to give you the few hundred you spent on a flight! Be a MAN and say, 'Hasaan, I am really hurt about that, and the loss, the $3000, I know wasn't your fault, but can you spot me back the plane flight?" Seriously! Grow up! And stop being a petty angry little child! Is that REALLY that hard????, ....and there is NOTHING here to sabotage silly!

    If you don't take me up on my challenge, and don't show any proof for your ignorant, angry, baseless posts,....your posts will be ignored! ....sabotage? Sabotage what
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    Quote Originally Posted by sevenshooter View Post
    There's no need to be secretive about your winning system. Bryan's shared his strategy. I've given out mine at no cost. We've done this to try to help others avoid the common pitfalls gamblers encounter.

    I like your ideas about the merits of flat-betting as opposed to running lengthy and potentially disastrous progressions. Why not contribute to the forum and tell us how you're making money? Otherwise, your thread is just a teaser.

    Also, the only exploitable bias in Baccarat is to always bet Banker, preferrably in EZ Baccarat (no commission). This is the incontestable truth.

    There is a need to be secretive about it. I can give any advice that is requested, but, not the system. I can contribute to the forum, the right questions just need to be asked. If you believe the only exploitable bias in baccarat is to bet banker? Then you are closing the doors on your potential prowess in baccarat. Big time. I can't force you to see otherwise, just warn you what your stubbornness may cause. First of all, my team has proven the wizardofodds wrong countless times. Mainly, the card counting theories and best card for banker or for player, have been proven otherwise by my team, countless times.

    Here's a tip, the removal 6s is not the BEST card that increases the chance of getting a player decision. And the removal of 4s is not the BEST card that increases the chance of getting a banker decision. Time has proven there are BETTER cards to "count".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thegoal View Post
    You are sure about this?

    Put your money where your mouth is "BOND". Come meet me in new york, at my apartment, before I go to ac. I'll let you use my camcorder to record the entire trip. What vehicle we use, how many people are in my team, and how much money we use. 200 pennies, and a greyhound bus! ......Get real!!!

    But if you want to, get off your ass, quit running your mouth, and put your money where your mouth is! I'll let you take home my camcorder so you can post the video! And if we ride on a bus, with $200, I will give you $5k!

    Well mr. "Big dawg", why don't you come up with some proof of my "blood sucking ways" instead of trying to "not" "sabotage" me.

    Oh....that's right, there IS no proof. Listen, bond, you are going to have to get over the fact that you spent a few hundred on a flight for me to meet you in seatle (this was YEARS ago, and there were many reasons I could not make it), and that you proceeded to LOSING $3000 on your OWN at the casino out of ANGER. That is NOT my fault! You want the money back for the flight??? That's ALL you had to say, rather than coming on here, posting "blood sucker" and "liar, liar". I am and always have been willing to give you the few hundred you spent on a flight! Be a MAN and say, 'Hasaan, I am really hurt about that, and the loss, the $3000, I know wasn't your fault, but can you spot me back the plane flight?" Seriously! Grow up! And stop being a petty angry little child! Is that REALLY that hard????, ....and there is NOTHING here to sabotage silly!

    If you don't take me up on my challenge, and don't show any proof for your ignorant, angry, baseless posts,....your posts will be ignored! ....sabotage? Sabotage what

    You know what you did wrong and only YOU knows how much you hurt me over a year ago. I bought your plane ticket, I arranged the hotel for your stay and I had my bankroll money to team up with you and ready to play. Now put the money where your mouth is. Did you show up to meet with me? Did you bother to tell me that you did not come to meet with me because your system was not winning? The fact that I lost of a few thousand dollars hurt me emotionally but the fact that you agreed to come after I arranged everything for you including your plane ticket, and you did not call or email me to let me know that you were not coming, if it is not lie, cheat and or deception, in your plain English term, what is it? I waited for your ass at the airport for over two hours and put your money where your ass is, how would you feel if I or someone else did that to you?

    I have proof to show the world that I bought your plane ticket, your email that you needed a thousand dollars, etc. I ask that you should not insist on me because I will furnish them to the world.

    OK, prove to me that you are the man of your own word, then yes, pay me back what I did for you. And show the world that you are kind and rich and that your only intention is to help other win money from the casino- and that is your sole intention. Otherwise, watch out AC, F.W, and LV because Hasaan Steel "winning team" is on the way to your areas to clean up your chips. No not white chips, they are purple chips. Get real, man.

    Hasaan, get real and acknowledge that you hurt my feeling and don't call me a man of no class, and if you do, look in the mirror and see it yourself you are the real deal man with class or with no class.

    Friends, my anger with the Thegoal gradually went away until I saw a post on July 19 about him promising to meet someone, I believe Daytrader, and he used the same excuse because he did not show up to meet with daytrader as promised.

    I do not want anyone to fall in his claw of deception again ever like I and the other gentleman did. As long as Hasaan Steel does not admit that he is a cheater and he caused the pain and suffering to others, like he did to me, I will let you all know that he is there not to help us but cheat us.

    Now Hasaan, prove it to me that you are real and that you are not cheater. My challenge to you is pay me back my money for what I did for you and for the cause of pain and suffering that you did to me. Otherwise, your thread here is plain and simple, Dawg and outcry to prey for new player attempts get his or her winning money back.

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    Hasaan Steel Of Brooklyn, New York Is A Scam Artist

    FRAUD ALERT:

    THERE IS A CON ARTIST BY THE NAME OF HASAAN STEEL (THEGOAL) POSTING FREE ADS ON CRAIG'S LIST AND VARIOUS OTHER SITES OFFERING BACCARAT AND ROULETTE SYSTEMS. NONE OF HIS SYSTEMS WORK. HE ONLY ACCEPTS PAYMENT BY WIRE VIA WESTERN OR MONEY GRAM HE OFFERS A 100% MONEY BACK GUARANTEE, BUT DOESN'T HONOR IT.

    HE ALSO SCAMMED A BUNCH OF PEOPLE OUT OF MONEY IN A FAKE SPORTS BETTING "POOL". HE TOOK THOUSANDS AND TOLD HIS VICTIMS "ALL WAS LOST, THE CASINO ALWAYS WINS" WHEN THEY ASKED WHERE THEIR MONEY WAS.

    DO NOT DO BUSINESS OF ANY KIND WITH THIS PERSON. YOU WILL LOSE YOUR MONEY.

    HE ALSO CLAIMS TO BE A DAY TRADER AND A PROFESSIONAL POKER PLAYER.

    IN REALITY, HE IS NOTHING MORE THAN A COMPULSIVE GAMBLER AND FLIM FLAM BOY THAT USES OTHER PEOPLES MONEY TO FUEL HIS CONS AND GAMBLING ADDICTION.

    A PURE AND TOTAL COWARD THAT STILL CAN'T TELL RIGHT FROM WRONG.

    THERE IS ALSO DIRT ON HIM AT THESE SITES:

    www.talkgold.com/forum/r30650-.html

    baccaratforums.com/t6377/


    www.ripoffreport.com/bait-and-switch/hasaan-steel/hasaan-steel-baccarat-system-59497.htm
    Last edited by MaverickUltimate; 09-04-2010 at 03:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaverickUltimate View Post
    Hasaan Steel Of Brooklyn, New York Is A Scam Artist

    FRAUD ALERT:

    THERE IS A CON ARTIST BY THE NAME OF HASAAN STEEL (THEGOAL) POSTING FREE ADS ON CRAIG'S LIST AND VARIOUS OTHER SITES OFFERING BACCARAT AND ROULETTE SYSTEMS. NONE OF HIS SYSTEMS WORK. HE ONLY ACCEPTS PAYMENT BY WIRE VIA WESTERN OR MONEY GRAM HE OFFERS A 100% MONEY BACK GUARANTEE, BUT DOESN'T HONOR IT.

    HE ALSO SCAMMED A BUNCH OF PEOPLE OUT OF MONEY IN A FAKE SPORTS BETTING "POOL". HE TOOK THOUSANDS AND TOLD HIS VICTIMS "ALL WAS LOST, THE CASINO ALWAYS WINS" WHEN THEY ASKED WHERE THEIR MONEY WAS.

    DO NOT DO BUSINESS OF ANY KIND WITH THIS PERSON. YOU WILL LOSE YOUR MONEY.

    HE ALSO CLAIMS TO BE A DAY TRADER AND A PROFESSIONAL POKER PLAYER.

    IN REALITY, HE IS NOTHING MORE THAN A COMPULSIVE GAMBLER AND FLIM FLAM BOY THAT USES OTHER PEOPLES MONEY TO FUEL HIS CONS AND GAMBLING ADDICTION.

    A PURE AND TOTAL COWARD THAT STILL CAN'T TELL RIGHT FROM WRONG.

    THERE IS ALSO DIRT ON HIM AT THESE SITES:

    www.talkgold.com/forum/r30650-.html

    baccaratforums.com/t6377/


    www.ripoffreport.com/bait-and-switch/hasaan-steel/hasaan-steel-baccarat-system-59497.htm

    LOL Nice try maverick.

    If anyone with a brain would read through EVERYTHING posted...you'd see it was all posted by one guy. Who was upset about getting his $500 back. When you read the posts, you also see he amended all his claims, when he got his $500 back.

    The talk gold posts? More baseless proofless claims.

    Got anything else maverick? LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhumibol View Post
    You know what you did wrong and only YOU knows how much you hurt me over a year ago. I bought your plane ticket, I arranged the hotel for your stay and I had my bankroll money to team up with you and ready to play. Now put the money where your mouth is. Did you show up to meet with me? Did you bother to tell me that you did not come to meet with me because your system was not winning? The fact that I lost of a few thousand dollars hurt me emotionally but the fact that you agreed to come after I arranged everything for you including your plane ticket, and you did not call or email me to let me know that you were not coming, if it is not lie, cheat and or deception, in your plain English term, what is it? I waited for your ass at the airport for over two hours and put your money where your ass is, how would you feel if I or someone else did that to you?

    I have proof to show the world that I bought your plane ticket, your email that you needed a thousand dollars, etc. I ask that you should not insist on me because I will furnish them to the world.

    OK, prove to me that you are the man of your own word, then yes, pay me back what I did for you. And show the world that you are kind and rich and that your only intention is to help other win money from the casino- and that is your sole intention. Otherwise, watch out AC, F.W, and LV because Hasaan Steel "winning team" is on the way to your areas to clean up your chips. No not white chips, they are purple chips. Get real, man.

    Hasaan, get real and acknowledge that you hurt my feeling and don't call me a man of no class, and if you do, look in the mirror and see it yourself you are the real deal man with class or with no class.

    Friends, my anger with the Thegoal gradually went away until I saw a post on July 19 about him promising to meet someone, I believe Daytrader, and he used the same excuse because he did not show up to meet with daytrader as promised.

    I do not want anyone to fall in his claw of deception again ever like I and the other gentleman did. As long as Hasaan Steel does not admit that he is a cheater and he caused the pain and suffering to others, like he did to me, I will let you all know that he is there not to help us but cheat us.

    Now Hasaan, prove it to me that you are real and that you are not cheater. My challenge to you is pay me back my money for what I did for you and for the cause of pain and suffering that you did to me. Otherwise, your thread here is plain and simple, Dawg and outcry to prey for new player attempts get his or her winning money back.
    Please post the proof. I already know what it was. Years ago, you brought me a plane ticket which I tried to communicate with you via cell phone to cancel. We BOTH recall, that you did not ALWAYS answer your phone. Then out of anger, you went and lost $3000. Cheat? Lie? ....for WHAT gain. Please..answer that question?

    Sure, I will pay back the plane ticket. That's ALL you had to ask for. And I asked you for a $1000 because it was the ONLY way I knew how to make your $3000 back for you! Did you send me $1000? NO...why bring it up? Because it helps your silly "sabotage" as you would call it. My system was winning then...but DID have a bump in the road. Why not be a MAN and ask me for the plane ticket back? Between you and I? No, of course not you prefer this. No class. If I hurt you man, I'm sorry, I really am. But, listen, talk to me personally about it. Don't hop on the bandwagon of brainless internet posters. Talk to me personally. Last time we spoke, you were telling me about your failed asian businesses. NOT ONE mention of you wanting "revenge" or how much I "hurt" you after missing that flight. Seriously man! Wtf!


    To maverick and anyone else as foolish,....if all someone has to do is post stuff without proof. And that is enough to sell? Then you are lost. And a fool.
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    I want to know what exactly you guys are trying to accomplish?

    To stop me from selling something? LOL What drives you guys?

    Nothing else to do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thegoal View Post
    I want to know what exactly you guys are trying to accomplish?

    To stop me from selling something? LOL What drives you guys?

    Nothing else to do?
    What's the point of this thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshky View Post
    What's the point of this thread?
    To give people an opportunity to pair up with me on dublinbet and see the power of what my team does. Confirm with themselves, if they had doubts, that baccarat CAN be beaten. And if they are interested in partnering up (Still not a "sale"), they can do so.

    Partners use their own money. EACH partner. But spot out key highly exploitable shoes to the entire TEAM.

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    TheGoal,

    I live in Vegas. I have seen plenty of teams play baccarat. None of them have been profitable for very long. The next time you come to Vegas let me know. If you can show me that you play with your own money (not from someone else) where you play at least 10 shoes and you are 50%+ profitable after those 10 shoes then I will become part of your team. The 50%+ for 10 shoes comes from the info you posted in your first post in this thread. When you say you will be at such and such casino in vegas then you show up. No excuses about not showing up either. If you meet all those items not only will I become part of your team but I will vouch for you in on this forum or any other forum. Next time your in Vegas (you pay your own way) let me know and give this idea a whirl.

    Regards,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thegoal View Post
    To give people an opportunity to pair up with me on dublinbet and see the power of what my team does. Confirm with themselves, if they had doubts, that baccarat CAN be beaten. And if they are interested in partnering up (Still not a "sale"), they can do so.

    Partners use their own money. EACH partner. But spot out key highly exploitable shoes to the entire TEAM.
    Last edited by AZJeff; 09-05-2010 at 05:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZJeff View Post
    TheGoal,

    I live in Vegas. I have seen plenty of teams play baccarat. None of them have been profitable for very long. The next time you come to Vegas let me know. If you can show me that you play with your own money (not from someone else) where you play at least 10 shoes and you are 50%+ profitable after those 10 shoes then I will become part of your team. The 50%+ for 10 shoes comes from the info you posted in your first post in this thread. When you say you will be at such and such casino in vegas then you show up. No excuses about not showing up either. If you meet all those items not only will I become part of your team but I will vouch for you in on this forum or any other forum. Next time your in Vegas (you pay your own way) let me know and give this idea a whirl.

    Regards,
    Jeff
    Each member of the team uses their own money. We don't "share" money (only thing we "share" are the hotel rooms and plane flights. Since I am the one who started the team, I pay air fare, and I get the hotel suite for us). Each member of the team has to have at least $5000 or more. We each sit at our own table. When one of us sees a highly exploitable advantage in any one shoe, we signal the other team members to come take full advantage of it. We make 50% per shoe, 8-9 out of every 10 shoes we play.

    Our next trip to vegas won't be for a while. But when we go I'll let you know. You'll see each member of the team using their own money. And see how we do what we do. Oh, and whether or not you become a part of our team is my decision and theirs, not yours. And please, there's no need to vouch for me on this forum. I only defend myself to the negative stuff, because it's proofless.
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    Send me a pm when you decide to come to Vegas. One correction it is your decision to invite me to your team if you choose to but it is my decision whether I join it or not. But of course that is only if your results back up what you indicate. Best of luck to you and your team.

    Regards,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thegoal View Post
    Each member of the team uses their own money. We don't "share" money (only thing we "share" are the hotel rooms and plane flights. Since I am the one who started the team, I pay air fare, and I get the hotel suite for us). Each member of the team has to have at least $5000 or more. We each sit at our own table. When one of us sees a highly exploitable advantage in any one shoe, we signal the other team members to come take full advantage of it. We make 50% per shoe, 8-9 out of every 10 shoes we play.

    Our next trip to vegas won't be for a while. But when we go I'll let you know. You'll see each member of the team using their own money. And see how we do what we do. Oh, and whether or not you become a part of our team is my decision and theirs, not yours. And please, there's no need to vouch for me on this forum. I only defend myself to the negative stuff, because it's proofless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZJeff View Post
    Send me a pm when you decide to come to Vegas. One correction it is your decision to invite me to your team if you choose to but it is my decision whether I join it or not. But of course that is only if your results back up what you indicate. Best of luck to you and your team.

    Regards,
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    Of course. But in the end, whether you decide to join or not, we still decide whether or not we want you, individually, on our team. For example, after you see what we can do, and feel it's something you are interested in, and want to join, WE still have to decide whether or not YOU should be on the team. We don't even start making that decision until after you decide whether or not you want to be on it. The people who are allowed on our team have to be patient, VERY patient, amongst other business like personality traits.

    Thanks for the good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thegoal View Post
    We play mostly in foxwoods and atlantic city. We took a trip to vegas last weekend. It was amazing!

    You won't really be able to "spot our team", lol. BUT, if you spot ME, don't point out my winning, just sit down and start winning with me!
    haha ok, I"ll keep an eye out for you next time I'm in AC.

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    Goaly..U havin MM issues? A hard time holdin on to the money eh? somehow u got to be in it for somebody else money...It's just ur nature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pitty1 View Post
    Goaly..U havin MM issues? A hard time holdin on to the money eh? somehow u got to be in it for somebody else money...It's just ur nature.

    MM? I'm guessing that means money management?

    lol

    And in it for some body else's money? In my nature? Oh...that's right, because all the OVERWHELMING evidence of that fact is just outstanding! LOL!

    Did you accomplish your goal for the day with this post pity1?

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    goal accomplished..a good laugh..card counting is ur way..u and ur team gonna need alot of money to beat that myth...lack of a card to bias a player/banker win..lol..wouldn't put a dent in the 97000 combo u'll need to decode dude.Thats why it's gotta be about the money...other than the casino's.
    Last edited by pitty1; 09-07-2010 at 05:17 PM. Reason: wad happins win a teem plazer looses his/hers 5K? u kickem out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pitty1 View Post
    goal accomplished..a good laugh..card counting is ur way..u and ur team gonna need alot of money to beat that myth...lack of a card to bias a player/banker win..lol..wouldn't put a dent in the 97000 combo u'll need to decode dude.Thats why it's gotta be about the money...other than the casino's.
    Good laugh for who? Yourself? If that's the case, perhaps you did accomplish your goal. I never said the 'system' or what my team does is entirely based on card counting. It is an engine to a many. Of course it's about the money. We wouldn't take time out of our lives to go to the casino if it wasn't about winning money. If we were losing, we wouldn't continue the team. We're up a large amount of money. Considering each team member is well off, and successful in other areas of their life already, No team member would be wiped out from losing the $5000 they bring with them to the casino. First of all. We RARELY lose two shoes in a row. And 2, we allow a loss of $2000 per shoe per team member and that team member quits that shoe. You seem to still not understand how it works. Our win rate is 8 out of every 9 to ten shoes we play. That's a very high win rate. We all play at a different table simultaneously. At random times, some shoes become so exploitable by our method, that we win almost every hand. We've sat at a shoe and won 18 out of 22 hands! And have repeated that or better at all highly "exploitable" shoes. When a team member is at a table such as this, that team member signals us via text and we all go to that table (if we can get a seat) and take full advantage of it. So, it's almost HIGHLY unlikely any team member will lose the $5000 they brought with them for the days play.

    And....like I said, we are each already up a large amount of money from the play we've done to date. But, you are welcome to feel or think whatever you like. You are also welcome to come to the casino anytime we are there and see what my team does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thegoal View Post
    Good laugh for who? Yourself? If that's the case, perhaps you did accomplish your goal. I never said the 'system' or what my team does is entirely based on card counting. It is an engine to a many. Of course it's about the money. We wouldn't take time out of our lives to go to the casino if it wasn't about winning money. If we were losing, we wouldn't continue the team. We're up a large amount of money. Considering each team member is well off, and successful in other areas of their life already, No team member would be wiped out from losing the $5000 they bring with them to the casino. First of all. We RARELY lose two shoes in a row. And 2, we allow a loss of $2000 per shoe per team member and that team member quits that shoe. You seem to still not understand how it works. Our win rate is 8 out of every 9 to ten shoes we play. That's a very high win rate. We all play at a different table simultaneously. At random times, some shoes become so exploitable by our method, that we win almost every hand. We've sat at a shoe and won 18 out of 22 hands! And have repeated that or better at all highly "exploitable" shoes. When a team member is at a table such as this, that team member signals us via text and we all go to that table (if we can get a seat) and take full advantage of it. So, it's almost HIGHLY unlikely any team member will lose the $5000 they brought with them for the days play.

    And....like I said, we are each already up a large amount of money from the play we've done to date. But, you are welcome to feel or think whatever you like. You are also welcome to come to the casino anytime we are there and see what my team does.

    I can see all the casinos are afraid of Hasaan Steel's team because his TEAM cleaned up a lot of money from them. Gentlemen, this kind of smooth talk that got me to believe him in the first place. You watch, he is going to come back and say all of his victims have no proof and all are fools. Hasaan, stop gloating about your scam and move on. I am sick and tired of your scam. And where is my money? I am waiting for it.

    His system is adding a total of (3) previous hands results and whichever is greater, bet the next hand. He told me that his grandfather won big money using this formula.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bhumibol View Post
    I can see all the casinos are afraid of Hasaan Steel's team because his TEAM cleaned up a lot of money from them. Gentlemen, this kind of smooth talk that got me to believe him in the first place. You watch, he is going to come back and say all of his victims have no proof and all are fools. Hasaan, stop gloating about your scam and move on. I am sick and tired of your scam. And where is my money? I am waiting for it.

    His system is adding a total of (3) previous hands results and whichever is greater, bet the next hand. He told me that his grandfather won big money using this formula.


    I bet you feel accomplished huh?

    I told you, that was years ago. We both know that was years ago. And what victims? The victims who paid for the system I WASN'T selling? LOL Thanks however for posting the system that I made a few years ago, that I told you in the email when we spoke, those years ago, did not work. Of course my grandfather made a fortune using it. That was years ago, when it was working, and he was getting lucky using it. Again, I repeat, that was years ago. Was I trying to sell it to you? ....?

    You think I'm going to give you money for a plane ticket you say you brought that I DO NOT OWE you, with these actions? (I still will, knowing my heart)

    If you felt I should reimburse you for the plane ticket you say you brought, all you had to do was say that to me personally. Not act like a fool on a forum. C'mon! You know I don't owe you that money. It would be a good thing to do on MY part, if I reimbursed you.

    You know ALL you had to do, was call me PERSONALLY, since we go WAY back, or email me PERSONALLY, and say "Hey, I know you don't really OWE me this, but I am hurting financially,...can you help me out?" But if you insist on parading around here? .....can only mean one thing?....


    lol.. C'mon, who's the next contender of "We can't stand thegoal and his energy and possible break through in baccarat, that we could never accomplish with our close minded, brainless attempts, so let's find any way possible to make him look as negative as possible!"....LOL

    Yet, you guys fail miserably. I am not even LOOKING for the responses, and I get them in my pm all the time. From POSITIVE, OPEN-MINDED individuals. Who can READ through the negativity, with their LOGICAL eyes, and not their ENVIOUS shriveled little black hearts and see that it's all smoke and mirrors, and see that I have something real.

    Happy camping!
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    Hasaan Steel (The Goal) has been charged by the CFTC for Commodities Pool Fraud.
    He scammed 1 milion out of 28 investors. He is going away for a long time!

    Check theses links about him out:

    http://www.cftc.gov/PressRoom/PressReleases/pr5982-11.html

    http://www.hedgeweek.com/2011/02/10/106883/cftc-charges-hasaan-r-steel-commodity-pool-fraud

    http://www.investmentfraudtimes.com/options/4122.html

    Looks like his little baccarat scam and other gambling frauds were just chump change compared to this.

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