"Challenge" to the real Garnabby, from John1234.

[John1234]

I doubt he would ever let any of his customers see him play live. This is just a good example that no one should buy anything from any commercial member unless they see the seller backs up their claims by playing live with their own money. That is my opinion. John has every right to do whatever he wants to do. Then it is up to other people whether they believe what he says. Now, I do hope Jonn is profitable and stays profitable. Finally, I respect his decision.

Regards,
Jeff

no no no , i would be happy for people to watch me play but not right now. I am busy for the next 7 months doing research for Thesis that I have to write. I Don't have time to log onto a website and show people how I play.

Money did go into your pockets at one time and you did get some of your customers from this website.

Good point

[garnabby]

no no no , i would be happy for people to watch me play but not right now. I am busy for the next 7 months doing research for Thesis that I have to write. I Don't have time to log onto a website and show people how I play.

Good point

From an undisclosed source (, let's call him Mr. T,) yesterday, here's one of many emails to myself, "Keep giving it to those clowns John1234 and Adulay, first class scamming fuckers! I love it. lol."

Popularity means nothing to a real winner, that's for the 5th graders like John1234 who doesn't know how to spell 'thesis' (without a capital). When others agree with my posts, well that's as much as i would want to hope for. Eg, even the Capt12 finally agreed with one of my replies in the thread at Gambler's Glen Message Boards : Roulette Message Board : Who plays AP and methods? . (What a small blessing when something like that happens, for they who are familiar with the Capt12.) And so far, not a single part of my own work on or off this game has been disputed in any sensible manner, if at all! Even the so-called "challengers" could never follow through with any part of it, except the "name calling", etc.

What a pleasure for myself to have something worth copying and pasting into my own baccarat-folder at the end of each month here.

For they who still cling to the false hopes of instant "popularity" and "millions", by either becoming scamming or "sucking up"... i see another recent thread somewhere, claiming something about another "holy grail" at BTC. So, with another "new crop of suckers" yet again warned, i and the other "advantaged" players look forward to watching your "beating yourselves up some more"... what great entertainment and a sense of achievement for the ones not so stupid. A real "object lesson", lol.

[garnabby]

... in the end I care about how I perform at the tables not my reputation here.

Actually, i'd be more concerned with my life, itself, aside from any game. That's the only thing from which any of us can (successfully) pursue other matters.

Maybe John1234 has too-quickly become too-experienced at this one game... has "grown old before his years".

[John1234]

'thesis' (without a capital).

I thought this was a gambling forum..I didn't know that grammar was sooo important. Sorry Professor Garnababy.

So while on the topic of grammar, you need to buy a book called Writing for the Social Scientist..It will give you good insight in how to write to people because you need some help in that area.

From an undisclosed source (, let's call him Mr. T,) yesterday, here's one of many emails to myself, "Keep giving it to those clowns John1234 and Adulay, first class scamming fuckers! I love it. lol."

Wow, now your life is worth living.

[John1234]

Actually, i'd be more concerned with my life, itself, aside from any game. That's the only thing from which any of us can (successfully) pursue other matters.

Then why do you spend it on a baccarat forum??? Maybe you are past caring about your life? I get that feeling.

[garnabby]

So while on the topic of grammar, you need to buy a book called Writing for the Social Scientist..It will give you good insight in how to write to people because you need some help in that area.

Like i previously wrote, first skip the "name calling"... you're not equipped for even that "pursuit", lol. Then focus on content, giving special attention to sincerity and honesty.

[garnabby]

Like i previously wrote, first skip the "name calling"... you're not equipped for even that "pursuit", lol. Then focus on content, giving special attention to sincerity and honesty.

I haven't been here, except to check my emails, since last Thursday... you remember, the last time you, yourself, were immediately-available to reply "at length". And i seem to recall that it was two weeks before that since my second-last vist here?

First ADuloonie's crazy claim that i never played the game; and now yours that i am always on one of these sites.

So, what else do you have to keep that little "psychological defence-mechanism" in check? Like i wrote before, putting others down even in your own mind won't put it at peace.

[John1234]

I haven't been here, except to check my emails, since last Thursday... you remember, the last time you, yourself, were immediately-available to reply "at length". And i seem to recall that it was two weeks before that since my second-last visit here?

Yup, I just happened to be online then you started harassing me about a challenge. I'm sure that you were lurking around somewhere, I see posts by you on all sorts of forums.

oook. Have fun talking to yourself and trying to provoke me, I am done now. But then again I provoke you too so it will be good for both of us.

However, the friendly offer from one of my previous posts is still on the table. I will present it one more time. If you still want to go through with this challenge, not for money of course, only for your bragging rights if you win, then I can commit to a time somewhere in the near future. Who knows, maybe we can both learn something from each other?? If not then so be it, it will only prove that this thread is unnecessary. The ball is in your court now..

[TSetAim]

I doubt he would ever let any of his customers see him play live. This is just a good example that no one should buy anything from any commercial member unless they see the seller backs up their claims by playing live with their own money. ....
Jeff

I've been online and seen him play and he was doing quite well as we were on Black Orchid many months ago and calling each play PRIOR to the hand.

We've also played the same shoes on BetPhenix and had them both posted by accident to his forum with similar results using difference systems.

Seemed pretty sincere to me.

[John1234]

I've been online and seen him play and he was doing quite well as we were on Black Orchid many months ago and calling each play PRIOR to the hand.

We've also played the same shoes on BetPhenix and had them both posted by accident to his forum with similar results using difference systems.

Seemed pretty sincere to me.

I remember when we were on at the same time..that chat thing made playing on that site fun

[pitty1]

Would i love to know? Hey are u still playing the sniperbacc?

[John1234]

Would i love to know? Hey are u still playing the sniperbacc?

yup..haha just played a shoe on dublin bet

[garnabby]

Yup, I just happened to be online then you started harassing me about a challenge. I'm sure that you were lurking around somewhere, I see posts by you on all sorts of forums.

That "challenge" was your very own idea as outlined and linked to in this thread... i merely accepted its ORIGINAL terms.

For what it's worth, YOU are the only one, along with Ellis and ADulay, always "lurking" about. But i have no ambition to demonstrate that fact, other than to point out that your responses follow immediately right after mine here... not the other way around. Asfaras other message-boards, i listed the ones i frequent over at the GG in a baccarat thread recently, but certainly nothing so intently as you seem to want to believe... for whichever faulty reason(s) on your part, given your repeated lack of even any evidence.

oook. Have fun talking to yourself and trying to provoke me, I am done now. But then again I provoke you too so it will be good for both of us.

Looks like some sort of lonely loser talking to himself? I mean, what the heck is that all about.

However, the friendly offer from one of my previous posts is still on the table. I will present it one more time. If you still want to go through with this challenge, not for money of course, only for your bragging rights if you win, then I can commit to a time somewhere in the near future. Who knows, maybe we can both learn something from each other?? If not then so be it, it will only prove that this thread is unnecessary. The ball is in your court now.

The "real Garnabby" has no interest in meeting any of the scammers and/or "nuts" like you. This is about as close as you're going to get unless also you want to "get real".

"The ball is in your court", lol. You haven't hit it yet!
__________________________________________________ _________

Now for a bit of fun-info, (just to keep things worthwhile here,) i came across this scripture the other day...
the definition of a fraud, if i ever heard of one, at John 12:34 The crowd spoke up, "We have heard from the Law that the Christ will remain forever, so how can you say, 'The Son of Man must be lifted up'? Who is this 'Son of Man'?" :

New Living Translation (©2007)
The crowd responded, "We understood from Scripture that the Messiah would live forever. How can you say the Son of Man will die? Just who is this Son of Man, anyway?"

[John1234]

The "real Garnabby" has no interest in meeting any of the scammers and/or "nuts" like you. This is about as close as you're going to get unless also you want to "get real".

"The ball is in your court", lol. You haven't hit it yet!

aww you are backing down now..I was trying to be nice.. oh well I guess you really are a waste

and who said anything about meeting. Aren't you the one with the tech to play at the same time while online or something. I don't want to meet you at all!!!!!!!!

Now for a bit of fun-info, (just to keep things worthwhile here,) i came across this scripture the other day...
the definition of a fraud, if i ever heard of one, at John 12:34 The crowd spoke up, "We have heard from the Law that the Christ will remain forever, so how can you say, 'The Son of Man must be lifted up'? Who is this 'Son of Man'?" :

New Living Translation (©2007)
The crowd responded, "We understood from Scripture that the Messiah would live forever. How can you say the Son of Man will die? Just who is this Son of Man, anyway?"

hahah I don't even know what to say to this one. I can't help but laugh. If you are googling my username then you have some odd obsession with me?

Take your pills you crazy old man!!

[garnabby]

I've been online and seen him play and he was doing quite well as we were on Black Orchid many months ago and calling each play PRIOR to the hand.

Well, one would hope you were betting before each game, but how would either of youze know for sure if or what the other was betting? Or did you mean, as you wrote (but were trying to imply otherwise) that youze were just "calling" something?

Anyway, when you have at least fifty good posts on this site, then come back with something more-statistically significant... please. Otherwise, you'll end up like John 12:34, just another "god to a fraud".

We've also played the same shoes on BetPhenix and had them both posted by accident to his forum with similar results using difference systems.

Which proves only that neither of youze played enough shoes, to have "different systems" all giving good results.

Seemed pretty sincere to me.

Do you still think he's "sincere"... after running away from his own "big mouth"?

[garnabby]

"The ball is in your court", lol. You haven't hit it yet!

...

[ADulay]

(just to keep things worthwhile here,) i came across this scripture the other day

Garn,

You really need to get your meds checked. Really man. You've lost it now. Your messages are just going nowhere (as is your non-existent baccarat game).

Still waiting for anything positive from you with regards to baccarat. Merely attacking the PLAYERS on this board just won't cut it anymore.

Also still waiting for your video thing to get up and running so I can get on it and play. Oh wait, you just changed your mind again and now you don't want any of us to play.

Get it together, man.

AD (Another +10 win tonight. How about you?)

[ADulay]

Anyway, when you have at least fifty good posts on this site, then come back with something more-statistically significant... please.

Hey Garn,

When YOU finally have "50 significant posts" we'll all be dead. I'm still waiting for you to post your first "significant post".

As an aside, I've also played along side John1234 on Black Orchid and as you can chat there (which you would know if you ever actually played the game) and can verify that he was calling his bets in real time, at least when I was there.

I haven't been on Black Orchid for awhile as my testing phases are pretty much over and I can't play for real money there, so I went elsewhere.

With that said, I still like the speed of Black Orchid for testing play.

I'm still waiting for my invitation to your special online video baccarat live shoe extravaganza. As it's supposed to be for players, I wonder if you'll actually show up for it anyway.

AD

[John1234]

I'm still waiting for my invitation to your special online video baccarat live shoe extravaganza. As it's supposed to be for players, I wonder if you'll actually show up for it anyway.

I am starting to think that it doesn't exist. We both said that we would do it. He even responded to me by saying that he doesn't want to meet me but I find that odd because we would never have to meet in person if this thing is real.

And don't you think that Garnabby is reinventing the wheel here? Last time I checked discussion is possible on Black Orchid where you can watch and check bets all on the same table. And if he is afraid of the casino hearing then there is something called Skype.

Based on some of his recent posts It is becoming more apparent that he does take medication and he does have bad days. That leads me to believe that he is full of it and this thing that he has been talking about is not even real.

Can't wait to see the crazy post that follows

[TSetAim]

Well, one would hope you were betting before each game, but how would either of youze know for sure if or what the other was betting? Or did you mean, as you wrote (but were trying to imply otherwise) that youze were just "calling" something?

Anyway, when you have at least fifty good posts on this site, then come back with something more-statistically significant..

I think I made the point perfectly clear with my initial post. We were both online, publicly posting what our next wagers were and accepting the outcomes. John was playing quite well.

What you've apparently read into it is not for me to call.

Also, I didn't realize it was you who approved all the posts and figured out which ones were significant. I really hope you'll approve this one so I can add it to my total.

[ADulay]

Gentlemen,

One of the problems with this particular forum is that one particular member is allowed to run rampant with baseless arguments and no way to effectively counter any accusations.

You can not argue in an intelligent manner with a person who insists that his way is correct and all others are wrong.

As this is supposed to be a baccarat forum, you would think that, at a minimum, the arguments would be loosely based on baccarat. Shows what I know.

You'll also notice that the ONLY time Garnabby shows his poor writing skills (and copy/paste technique) is when John1234, myself and probably two others are involved. Arguing is what Garnabby does. He does not play baccarat anymore even though he insisted he did previously when he got cleaned out that last time he supposedly played.

As much as I would like to avoid his random attacks, he continues to include me in his off topic posting and any attempt to correct his made up facts (and now his new phantom friends that he quotes) is generally met with all kinds of continued off topic, and made up facts. You will notice that I never reply to any posts of Garnabby that don't have my name in it.

Garnabby needs to see his name in the posts. He needs to see that at least SOMEBODY will converse with him and he craves the attention that his own particular brand of blandness brings up.

So, I'd like to just stop responding to his senseless postings but like a train wreck, we just have to watch. If he would leave me out of his make believe world, I'd never have to respond but he knows nobody will talk with him unless he attacks them first.

So, Garn, blast away. If I've got some free time I'll respond and this useless thead will continue on and on until the PLAYERS just tire of it and we go back to anything other that responding to your fantasy life, make believe friends, stock graphics links, complete lack of baccarat experience and generally sad life.

Me? I'm off to the Seminole casino this afternoon. Have one of your make believe friends sit next to me so he can anonymously "report" back to you in a fake, quoted, email.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot. When you get a chance, try talking about baccarat in any thread available here. You might just get a clue about what everyone else is doing here and the main reason for this place.

Here's a hint, it's not for you to argue with baccarat players. If you would like to discuss baccarat technique, MM, casinos, comps or what the dealers are wearing, I'll be happy to oblige. However, if all you really want to do is argue about whatever it is you argue about, I'll leave.

AD (leaving for the casino as we type!)

[garnabby]

When YOU finally have "50 significant posts" we'll all be dead. I'm still waiting for you to post your first "significant post".

That's what you got for "signing up" with Ellis at BeatTheClowns, where "significant" seems to mean who can come off as the biggest clown.

As an aside, I've also played along side John1234 on Black Orchid and as you can chat there (which you would know if you ever actually played the game) and can verify that he was calling his bets in real time, at least when I was there.

"Calling" something a few times means nothing, even if anyone else could verify who the others were at those randomly-assigned tables.

I haven't been on Black Orchid for awhile as my testing phases are pretty much over and I can't play for real money there, so I went elsewhere.

Right, "fun money", lol.

I'm still waiting for my invitation to your special online video baccarat live shoe extravaganza. As it's supposed to be for players, I wonder if you'll actually show up for it anyway.

There're no invitations, just let me know of your intentions once it's ready to go, as i already wrote when my new internet-contract is in place (at my home. The date i threw out was September, or at my earliest convenience of course. But this could've all be done five years ago by Ellis, were he sincerely interested in doing something more than just those "significant posts" of his.)

Also, I didn't realize it was you who approved all the posts and figured out which ones were significant.

Nor did i. Maybe i'll ask Mike for a raise?

I am starting to think that it doesn't exist. We both said that we would do it. He even responded to me by saying that he doesn't want to meet me but I find that odd because we would never have to meet in person if this thing is real.

Wow, another "challenge" (about something not intended as such) from the guy who couldn't follow through on his first one? And thanks for my "fun" for the month, gotta love these PUBLIC boards.

Incidentally, how odd that you pretend to not realize that 'meet' doesn't necessarily mean by 'in person', yet you go on to note in the same sentence.

Based on some of his recent posts It is becoming more apparent that he does take medication and he does have bad days. That leads me to believe that he is full of it and this thing that he has been talking about is not even real.

The only thing i'm remotely "high on" here... watching moronic persons such as yourself trying to make sense of your surroundings.

[ADulay]

Once again, all kinds of nonsense replys, no answers to any questions but at least you've managed to cover all of your "normal" targets.

Make up whatever you want.

Count me out of this one.

AD

[garnabby]

Count me out of this one.

Lol.

[pitty1]

Garny...U sleazy Christ basher..They call u out fer a challenge..Why don't u pony up ol man..Tell u what since ur afraid of losing..Send me ur 10 grands and i'll do the bidding for u..If i win we split 50/50...

[John1234]

ol garny gets reincarnated into a 50 cent chip..Nobody wants..

hahahahhahahhah that is one of the funniest things that i have read on here

[leenco12]

Even after warning him that all he could do was make a fool of himself again, lol.

A new message from John1234, at his joke-of-a-scam site, sniperbaccarat:

An Error Has Occurred!
Sorry The real garnabby, you are banned from using this forum!
Too many to list
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watch movies online

[garnabby]

Thanks to the "fools and their imaginary friends (with one or two posts) " above for once again bumping this thread.

I love reading about myself (almost as much as talking about myself, lol.) Especially the parts about how i'm banned everywhere yet seem to spend all my time there; and how i lose so much yet never play.

Anyway, keep up the "good (scam-aritan) work", you guys.

[soxfan]

Hello everyone,

I would love to see Garnabby and John1234 play Baccarat together at an actual Las Vegas casino. For that matter, I would like to see anyone who says they are profitable play baccarat for real money at a Las Vegas casino. I have spent many hours watching people whether just as individuals or people saying they are part of a team play baccarat. I have not seen one person or any team beat baccarat consistently in Vegas. I am sure someone is doing it but until I see it, I just will not believe it. If anyone does come to vegas let me know. If you are profitable where you play at least 15 shoes then I will vouch for you on this forum or any other forum. The only other requirement is that you must play with your own money.

Regards,
Jeff

Wow, you would just wanna see a cat show profit over 15 shoes? Dang, I just checked and I pulled down 983 units of gross profit over my past 100 live played shoes, hey hey.