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Last edited by garnabby; 05-26-2011 at 06:46 PM.
I wouldn't waste my time with that scammer and the others at that site. Their original system is almost a word for word copy of Natural 8 and 9 system I received a few weeks ago.
Is there a point to any of this or can we all take pictures of money and post it up here?
I'll think about taking you serious when I actually see a baccarat shoe that you've played.
It's sad to see someone like yourself just begging for attention for any reason and not getting it.
AD
What in the world are you rambling on about?
This is a baccarat forum, not Garnabby's personal fantasy world.
Get back on your medication and do it quick!
AD
He doesn't take medication, he is too far gone to be on anything. he will never take the step to get help because he cannot look within himself and admit that he is crazy, we both know that. His math degree is probably fake, his little baccarat experience is fake (the only experience the I am aware of is when he once told me that he lost all of his money along time ago for fun), and he is fake.
Moral of the story is never joke with a psycho. Even if I did mean it do you really think I would want to take your money after beating you? Come on, get real, I wouldn't touch your money because I don't really want it, need it, or feel it is right to take your money.
To Garnabby: I am not posting any money up because I have a life and I don't need to go to the bank to withdraw 10,000 or take a loan like you to post it up. I noticed that you said that it was laying around the house..that is also dumb. what if your house goes up in flames? what if you get robbed? Bullshit. I don't need to take pictures of my money and post it on the internet and I don't keep thousands sitting around my house. What your doing is just stupid and pointless because in the end, who really gives a shit? Not me and not anybody else here. Look at who has responded to you..only good old luckoftheIirish who claims that you need to beat this game with a progression that is like a rubber band. You don't seem to have many fans Garnabby maybe it is time for you to get off the forums and pay more attention to your mental health. Nobody likes you, you don't play the game, get over yourself please. how many forums are you banned from now? You are a troll I bet you look like one too (oh shit, here comes the picture)
Now I know exactly what is going to happen. You are going to come on, say something that nobody understands and post a few links. You are probably going to get upset because I just attacked your inflated ego you will start making stuff up like you always do. And while you are doing all of that I will be at Sands playing my two favorite Systems ADOT and my other system making money. So who is really winning here? doesn't sound like you..you appear to be trapped within these forums. I meet a lot of people when I play and non of them go on baccarat forums. You have no significance in the baccarat world yet you think you are the baccarat God. I bet that you hate how I am half your age and found way to succeed in less than a year. I got lucky and surrounded myself around the right people, you were not one of them.
I can't wait to read your response. I got back from the gym and decided to take a nap before heading out to the casino. I couldn't sleep so I figured I would come on and check in on what you are saying. And I am not the least bit surprised at what I see..A pathetic piece of shit trying to prove something. So please do respond..when I get time I will read what you said and sit back laughing the entire time as you remain possessed and fuming with rage.
I have to get to the casino now so I won't try to make this too long. First of all, I have never seen natural 8 and 9 system.
Second, I have seen one of the systems that you wanted tested. The system used a killer progression. You mean to tell me that you think the best way to beat this game is with a progression that will wipe you out one day? Not so smart. You mention having a rubber band that will stretch beyond the game or something like that, I'll give you that..it is an interesting way to put it. But..do you realize what happens when you stretch a rubber band too much? It snaps. That is exactly what will happen with your progression. You may win a lot with such a progression but one day you will lose. I can't count the number of people who have told me that they had year after year where they won then they hit a wall and couldn't win again even with their crazy progs.
Next, You said that you have tested the original sniper system. Show proof of that on this forum. Post up the shoes which must be real. I don't believe that you tested it right and I am not so sure you played the right way. It would at least be interesting to see, hell maybe it can actually help show you that it can win if you are disciplined. Don't base your conclusions off Johno, he never tested any of the systems.
Finally, you have some of the sniper systems that you are giving away for free. If you give the Grid system away then let people know it is not complete before they go blow their money. If you give the matrix away then please let people know that it failed, that was never even meant to be released because it tanked. At least do that so they don't lose money.
Actually the system I wanted tested was not mine at all. It was 0005 from smtinvest. I just wanted to see if it beat the Zumma testers as claimed. And it didn't.
You think I am stupid? I would give out my best ideas in the beginning to some person I do not trust?
I do not think I have given away the Matrix or Grid system to anybody.
I do know a number of people who bought your systems are very unhappy with it as they know there is nothing there.
Nope, I don't think you are stupid, I don't know you well enough to make a judgment. I think if you were to use the progression that smtinvest uses then you would be stupid. I do agree with you that a progression is important but the progression does not need to be so large. The most important thing is MM. I can win with almost any system that I play all because I know how to manage my money. I can't even begin to explain how many times I have seen someone get up over 1000 and lose it all and then get back up and lose it all. Too many people here are stuck on Bet Selection..They forget about the very nature of this game..which is for the casino to win and the player to lose. We always have that negative expectation no matter what what sort of trigger we use. If we use card values, if we use Maverick, if we use anything, we always will be standing on the edge of a cliff.
I'm sure We both can agree that baccarat does come down to MM, but there is a difference between MM and a progression. MM is more of a strategy, and while a progression is a strategy within itself it does not prove to be solely sufficient to satisfy your end goal. MM allows you to build a plan of attack. Baccarat is not all about offense and it is not all about defense. It is a constant balance of the two. If you are too aggressive than you are more likely to lose and if you are too passive than you are are more likely to experience a zero sum gain or lose. This balance is very important which is why it should be included in MM. Take a look at the world around you, balance is important to everything. A democratic government must have a balance of powers, We must eat balanced diets, we balance our education, emotions, our spending, and so on. So why not balance our aggression? Recognizing the importance of balance between offense and defense in baccarat is so important because it allows you to sit down and figure out how to play the shoe. Sometimes you have to pull back and find a hole in the defense and when you find that hole you have to exploit it with aggression...but at the same time you can't be overly aggressive. You stated that you have come across some people who have been unhappy with my systems. I do understand that they can be unhappy because they are not fun to play but it is also not fun losing. I would take a 1 unit win any day over a loss. Unfortunately as humans we are not hardwired to play the patient strategic game. The casinos know this fact and they feed off it. So what I am getting at is that I disagree with what you have said about a progression being the answer. i think that looking for such a progression that you explained is impossible to find and a waste of time. And I say this simply Because that elastic progression will snap and when it snaps, you go broke. There are better avenues to take such as focusing on MM as a whole. By doing so your entire game will come together. when I say MM as whole I mean that there are various factors that come into play. I won't get too deep into it because I am writing too much but I always ask myself a set of questions before making a bet
1) is this bet logical: I consider all of the factors that the systems tells me to look at, plus I look at some additional factors, to determine if I am making a logical choice. In reality I guess that nothing is logical since it is a 50/50 game but since we have to make a choice it makes more sense to attempt to determine which bet seems more logical. There could be an exploitable pattern within the shoe worth jumping on. Maybe the shoe is favoring Player, or TB4L. By asking myself this question I get to step back, slow down and consider many factors before making my bet. It stops me from getting tunnel vision.
2) Is my wage economy sound for my current session and my goals. For example, does it make sense to double my bet in certain situations when that will put me further behind? how far into the shoe am I and when do I want to go home to do more important things? What are the trade-offs if I lose? Do the trade offs out way the positives?
3) How sure am I of the next bet? If I feel uneasy about the bet then I typically sit out or bet 1 unit. The gut is a great tool to use that too many people have no confidence in.
They are some of the basic questions that I ask myself. I don't go too crazy talk myself out of bets. If you get carried away then you enter the realm of dismissing returns.
I just got back from the casino. It was a real easy night. I had yet another winning session, I don't even keep track of my wins anymore. Baccarat has become my ATM machine. Well actually I do have to admit that I lost $20 playing Sicbo. I was trying to hit that 50-1 bet on 17. Then I realized there was a 150 to 1 bet and I was shooting for that. But anyway I could easily stay in each shoe and who knows, I probably would have had some losing sessions..but I like to walk out of the casino with heavy pockets. Without MM I would come home empty handed.
If you put a good MM plan together, and combine it with a decent BS then everything should come together. But the MM plan must consist of more than just a progression and some exit rules. It needs to be the heart of your game.
You make some excellent and relevant points there John1234;
This made me laugh though
you appear to be trapped within these forums. I meet a lot of people when I play and non of them go on baccarat forums. You have no significance in the baccarat world yet you think you are the baccarat God. I bet that you hate how I am half your age and found way to succeed in less than a year. I got lucky and surrounded myself around the right people, you were not one of them
It's a shame you had to get involved with somebody who's aim was to rip fellow players off.
Garn obviously never reached his teenage fantasies, next time somebody chooses to post an image of a wad of cash, perhaps they could also include something in the image to associate the cash with them, maybe a doctored maths degree or even a piece of paper with the name of the login used, otherwise it states nothing.
Last edited by Egalite; 08-28-2010 at 05:12 AM.
Man, just give it up. Nobody wants to play your home grown video thing. Nobody wants to play at your site. Nobody wants you near them, especially in a casino.
And, I'll ask you one more time. What is the point of this "on-line" play system that you keep throwing out? What could possibly make anyone want to show up and do whatever it is this thing is supposed to do?
If you want to see me win, show up on BetPhoenix and turn on your Skype. We'll talk the shoe all the way through. You can tell me your bets and I'll tell you mine. We'll see how it all works out.
Oh yeah, that's right, you don't actually PLAY baccarat, you just make believe you're somebody who does.
I've been here over a year now and have yet to see you post up one casino report, one score card or even a simple shoe report!
Let's try something along those lines before the big "on-line" extravaganza and expose' of all things baccarat!
What a poser. (Or maybe that's a hoser for you Canadians.)
AD (back to tonight's session. Had to wait through a shuffle)
Oh so now you are a psychologist??? Ooh shit here comes the math degree (fake) again. Garnabby needs to prove that he graduated college.psychological "over-compensation" means only one thing.
Oh when you die can you have your wife or cat or whoever is around for you post up your death certificate? It will be a great collection to all that you have given us.
You have no idea what a pratt you make of yourself week in and week out. You have never contributed anything, in your own minds eye, you may think otherwise, but heck just check out the responses (even from those that can comprehend your dribble). I simply fail to comprehend how an alleged adult can continue for this long down the path you have taken. You must be very bored or far too much time on your hands, from what I've read, why do you not try and win back the five thou' you lost in the States, it should not take long for a smart cookie like you even playing few cents per hand, a more productive use of your time, then the constant baiting on various boards, or maybe it is a case you simply can not help yourself, you are wired to be a complete pratt, maybe your home life or existance is so miserable it spills out on the net.
Oh, yes regarding that picture, a simply sign stating Garnabby or (Pratt even) laid across the cash will do, not some rearrangment, rearrangment again proves nothing (you may have come accross many images of the same stash) and certainly doesn't prove the money is yours, but hey its just another sign you are indeed a pratt for doing as much.
Last edited by Egalite; 09-01-2010 at 03:35 AM.
I agree with you and when I first came here I always felt the same. But some people such as garnabby never want peace, they only to disrupt. Garnabby is one of them. He has been banned from many forums, he is a troll and a cancer on this forum and he loves his role of bringing forums down.
Wow. If you have no defense for your actions, just attack, attack and make stuff up. Sooner or later somebody might even believe it!
There's just so much to attempt to correct in your fantasy message that I'll only take this one simple paragraph quoted above.
Where did I say anything about taking anybody's money?? YOU made that up all on your own.
What I did say was WE would play together and each make our bets. That way YOU could see that I was winning. Go ahead, reread it. Heck, quote it in your next fantasy reply.
So, as you can tell from the overwhelming lack of support for anything you've said so far, I think you've completely lost it now.
Please go back to your fantastic baccarat site, you know, the one that gets maybe one login a week, and continue to tell us how you're about to revamp the entire mathematical sequence of baccarat so that YOU, personally, can sit at home in your underwear and bring the casinos down.
Uh-oh, I see a problem already. You'll have to actually PLAY baccarat to get all this done.
Lots of luck waiting for that to happen.
We're all still waiting, for over a year now, to see one single shoe from you or casino report or even an idea that wasn't copy and pasted from some site from 12 years ago.
Check your meds again, I think the dosage is way out of whack now.
AD
You do live in your own little world, don't you.
Oh well, time to move on.
Please let us know when you want me to show up for baccarat play with whatever rules you want to enforce.
AD
WOW, I'm really a pauper.
http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumbla...03582Kr0F0.jpg
http://i.ehow.com/images/a05/qr/a9/c...rs-200X200.jpg (that's my CD in the shot, honestly)
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BVGz7lWZUI..._070920_ms.jpg (I move around a bit)
http://files.nireblog.com/blogs1/ner...ll_obverse.jpg (this is my true worth)
Only an retard would not realise an image prove NOTHING
Hello everyone,
I would love to see Garnabby and John1234 play Baccarat together at an actual Las Vegas casino. For that matter, I would like to see anyone who says they are profitable play baccarat for real money at a Las Vegas casino. I have spent many hours watching people whether just as individuals or people saying they are part of a team play baccarat. I have not seen one person or any team beat baccarat consistently in Vegas. I am sure someone is doing it but until I see it, I just will not believe it. If anyone does come to vegas let me know. If you are profitable where you play at least 15 shoes then I will vouch for you on this forum or any other forum. The only other requirement is that you must play with your own money.
Regards,
Jeff
Last edited by AZJeff; 09-05-2010 at 05:46 AM.
I don't see myself going to Vegas anytime soon and I really have no idea if Garnabby plays, I always get the feeling that he likes to think about and discuss the game which I guess there is nothing wrong with, that is unless he is trying to speak from experience.
Most people don't win, that is the nature of the game. But there are people who do win. I can't remember the last time that I lost but I do remember when I had grind sessions. I had a rough shoe on Friday night. I started +4 units then dropped -4 and I could not overcome the -4 until the end of the shoe when I pulled out a +5 win. Winning is not always easy and it is not always fun because in baccarat you have to accept the fact that you will have to sometimes grind away at it. At the people smoking, negativity, and so on, baccarat/gambling in general becomes brutal (at times).I have spent many hours watching people whether just as individuals or people saying they are part of a team play baccarat. I have not seen one person or any team beat baccarat consistently in Vegas. I am sure someone is doing it but until I see it, I just will not believe it.
While I do think it is possible to have success in baccarat I also think it is very hard which is why you see very few people having success. You can have the best system but I also think that you need to have something inside yourself. It is almost like you need something to click and then the entire game starts to make sense. It is not really something that you can teach. It is self discovered and occurs through searching within yourself and also through learning more about this game. This is what happened to me awhile back. Most people are not fortunate enough to experience something like this and that is sad because it really is what makes the difference in your game. I try to limit what I say because Archer may come along and accuse me of smoking something again haha or Garnabby will go dig up some point-less post.
I don't care for anyone to vouch for me on this forum. I know how I am doing with the game and I am happy with where I am at. I make money, this forum does not make me money, so why should I need someone to vouch for me? Why should I need an ego boost? Believe me or don't believe me. I don't lie but I also don't see the point on forcing people to believe what I say. I am speaking off of past experiences and what I have found works best for me. Personally, vouching for me is pointless because in the end I care about how I perform at the tables not my reputation here.then I will vouch for you on this forum or any other forum. The only other requirement is that you must play with your own money.
haha good point..
but seriously, I won big last night. As soon as I got home for the casino I had to build an extra room into my house. Here is my new room
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John,
To bad you do not care. You are the one stating you are profitable so it comes down to you backing up what you say. Especially since you are running your own commercial website or did in the past. That is what separates out real people proving they use their commercial products versus the people that just say they do. Then again you do not care.
No worries. Hope you future play continues to be profitable.
Regards,
Jeff
Or maybe other people care too much? I don't think you understand what I am saying. I want to win. My reputation here does not influence the amount of money that I walk away with in the casino. If someone says I am a lair then alright, but how does that change how I preform when it counts? I do care about how other people do and I will offer my advice and I would have no problem showing what I do, but I don't care much of what people think of me. Big difference between the two. And why would I care about my reputation? I don't really have any personal relationships established with anyone here. It is hard to do such a thing over a forum. I view this forum as a place to discuss the game, learn, and help others. but other than that the forum does little good for me. It does not play my shoes and drive my life. So why get so attached?To bad you do not care.
thanks and I hope that you are profitable as well.No worries. Hope you future play continues to be profitable.
Believe it or not john u do have a relationship with other forum members.. Their money going into ur pocket for sniperbaccatat..I guess that TRUST ment no relationship to you at all..BTW how successful is it? So good it's still the best kept secret?
.Believe it or not john u do have a relationship with other forum members.. Their money going into ur pocket for sniperbaccatat.
Nope, that is where you are wrong because right now nobody's money is going into my pocket.
Any sort of relationship that I have with the people who have bought my system is on the sniper forum, not here.
You must have some trouble reading. I stated that I care about how other people preform, I do not care to get too involved with most people here and I do not care about my ego. Sorry but I don't look for friends on the internet..
Wouldn't you love to know..BTW how successful is it? So good it's still the best kept secret?
I doubt he would ever let any of his customers see him play live. This is just a good example that no one should buy anything from any commercial member unless they see the seller backs up their claims by playing live with their own money. That is my opinion. John has every right to do whatever he wants to do. Then it is up to other people whether they believe what he says. Now, I do hope Jonn is profitable and stays profitable. Finally, I respect his decision.
Regards,
Jeff
Money did go into your pockets at one time and you did get some of your customers from this website. Just from a business perspective you might want to think about that. No worries though. Everyone will do what they want to do. People need to respect that. Life is to short to worry about this or that. I do not wish anything bad on anyone but I am not a gullible person either. Hopefully everyone is profitable in the games they choose to play.
Regards,
Jeff
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