Thread: Bryan, LuckofIrish, Garnabby, Archer, Who Ever

Will any of you play a live shoe with me online so I can see if your way works?

I see you all have strong view points on so many topics, I figured you'all would be the ones I can finally get an HONEST answer from.

I like how you all are so blunt and quick to bring up any criticism in any claims. Thats good, it protects people and keeps people honest, I hope.

So I was wondering if any of you would be able to do what you all seem to ask others to do when that make claims of a successful system.

Will any of you be willing to demonstrate that the way you play works so that I can learn it too?

If not, do you know anyone here that would?

Or is everyone here all talk and a scammer?

What do we have to prove with you?

Originally Posted by bacguy

Will any of you play a live shoe with me online so I can see if your way works?

I see you all have strong view points on so many topics, I figured you'all would be the ones I can finally get an HONEST answer from.

I like how you all are so blunt and quick to bring up any criticism in any claims. Thats good, it protects people and keeps people honest, I hope.

So I was wondering if any of you would be able to do what you all seem to ask others to do when that make claims of a successful system.

Will any of you be willing to demonstrate that the way you play works so that I can learn it too?

If not, do you know anyone here that would?

Or is everyone here all talk and a scammer?

bacguy,

I'd be happy to.

Study the System 40 thread by Ellis first.

My primary mode is System 40, and I've modified it to fit my own style and preferences based on experience. But try first to understand the basic rules of System 40 first, and it'll be easier for you to understand what I'm doing when we play together.

PM me when you're ready.

Originally Posted by joshky

What do we have to prove with you?

Nothing, if especially if you have nothing. Funny, isn't your reply typical of a scammer?

So basically, you have nothing to offer. Anything you do say, you will not back it up, because your answer will always be, "why should we prove anything?"

Whats wrong with my question? Have you never asked it before? Or is it that you do not win consistently? If not, thats okay. Nothing wrong with admitting that. Just say so.

Originally Posted by davel

bacguy,

I'd be happy to.

Study the System 40 thread by Ellis first.

My primary mode is System 40, and I've modified it to fit my own style and preferences based on experience. But try first to understand the basic rules of System 40 first, and it'll be easier for you to understand what I'm doing when we play together.

PM me when you're ready.

Thank you very much. a simple honest answer, to simple question. Thank you.

Anyone else?

Originally Posted by bacguy

Will any of you play a live shoe with me online so I can see if your way works?

I see you all have strong view points on so many topics, I figured you'all would be the ones I can finally get an HONEST answer from.

I like how you all are so blunt and quick to bring up any criticism in any claims. Thats good, it protects people and keeps people honest, I hope.

So I was wondering if any of you would be able to do what you all seem to ask others to do when that make claims of a successful system.

Will any of you be willing to demonstrate that the way you play works so that I can learn it too?

If not, do you know anyone here that would?

Or is everyone here all talk and a scammer?

What is up with the search for approval?

The only approval is your ability in moving money from the casino/dealer to your pile. That is all the approval you will ever need. And if you are one of the few who gets 86'd from a casino, you have joined the leagues of the elite.

That is all that matters in the very end.

Originally Posted by bacguy

Will any of you play a live shoe with me online so I can see if your way works?

I see you all have strong view points on so many topics, I figured you'all would be the ones I can finally get an HONEST answer from.

I like how you all are so blunt and quick to bring up any criticism in any claims. Thats good, it protects people and keeps people honest, I hope.

So I was wondering if any of you would be able to do what you all seem to ask others to do when that make claims of a successful system.

Will any of you be willing to demonstrate that the way you play works so that I can learn it too?

If not, do you know anyone here that would?

Or is everyone here all talk and a scammer?

Lol.. +1 from me..

But not everyone here's scammer mate.. Pitboss and Andy, i dunno if their strategies work or not, win or not, i never try it.. But they're actually share something.. So people here knows when they're talking about their winning, people will know they're talking B.S or not.. And guess what?? In a short-term sessions, their system has big chance to win, i tested it on my live shoe records, i dont play it, but i test it.. So are they really winning?? Big chance yup.. As long as you know when to stop or when you lose or win and don't play mad.. And if they win that must be something, They have a good mental attitude, that's for sure..

And as long as i know in the forum, when people losing using their system, noone gets mad.. They're just saying.. it's not working.. just like that..

Compare to someone in this forum talking big about their winning without any proof?? LOL.. Sorry dude.. As long as i don't see any proof, even that i know you're really popular here, and people admire you.. You're still in my scammer list, not more..

Sorry for my bad English.. Ciao

Originally Posted by DiMenosCor

What is up with the search for approval?

The only approval is your ability in moving money from the casino/dealer to your pile. That is all the approval you will ever need. And if you are one of the few who gets 86'd from a casino, you have joined the leagues of the elite.

That is all that matters in the very end.

All that matters in the very end is stop giving hopes to people that they can win without showing how they did it.. That's stupid.. That makes people gambling without clue, because they know there are somehow way to win, and they will try it over and over again.. And i guarantee you.. 99% of thems will go bankrupt

Still best system i ever know are.. Don't gambling / Only use money you can afford/ bet for fun..

Given how a large percentage who are searching for easy money and the easy way out, they deserve to have the casino take their money. They shouldn't go crying angry foul since they are themselves to blame. Actually personally I prefer more of these schmoes exist! This is because the casinos can stay open and in business.

Baccarat is a "winnable" and profitable game. One has to put in the hard work, dedication, patience and discipline to see this through. It is not about finding a winning system. The folks who succeed are the ones who understands and appreciate the process and able to go through the learning curve.

Reading through this forum and many others there is not one person who asks about the learning process. Most of them just jump through trying to skip the important steps of learning and just head straight to obtaining some "winning" system thinking that will set them a life of easy money.

Originally Posted by LuvBac

Lol.. +1 from me..

But not everyone here's scammer mate.. Pitboss and Andy, i dunno if their strategies work or not, win or not, i never try it.. But they're actually share something.. So people here knows when they're talking about their winning, people will know they're talking B.S or not.. And guess what?? In a short-term sessions, their system has big chance to win, i tested it on my live shoe records, i dont play it, but i test it.. So are they really winning?? Big chance yup.. As long as you know when to stop or when you lose or win and don't play mad.. And if they win that must be something, They have a good mental attitude, that's for sure..

And as long as i know in the forum, when people losing using their system, noone gets mad.. They're just saying.. it's not working.. just like that..

Compare to someone in this forum talking big about their winning without any proof?? LOL.. Sorry dude.. As long as i don't see any proof, even that i know you're really popular here, and people admire you.. You're still in my scammer list, not more..

Sorry for my bad English.. Ciao

Awesome, thanks a lot!!! Pitboss and Andy. Okay I will look for what they posted.

Thanks again!

Originally Posted by DiMenosCor

Given how a large percentage who are searching for easy money and the easy way out, they deserve to have the casino take their money. They shouldn't go crying angry foul since they are themselves to blame. Actually personally I prefer more of these schmoes exist! This is because the casinos can stay open and in business.

Baccarat is a "winnable" and profitable game. One has to put in the hard work, dedication, patience and discipline to see this through. It is not about finding a winning system. The folks who succeed are the ones who understands and appreciate the process and able to go through the learning curve.

Reading through this forum and many others there is not one person who asks about the learning process. Most of them just jump through trying to skip the important steps of learning and just head straight to obtaining some "winning" system thinking that will set them a life of easy money.

We are talking in the grey area here.. maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong.. Maybe i'm right, or maybe i'm wrong..

But for me.. I think if you have the winning system.. share it.. Let's show holy grail to people.. Let people know and play your system.. So if they lose.. hopefully they'll stop.. why?? Because they'll think Even the best system in the world can't beat baccarat.. It's all completely B.S!! I stop!! Good.. If they don't stop.. so what?? They won't stop on the first place.. They will continue playing until they go to bankrupt..

Turns out your system works for them.. well, God bless you.. You are the nicest man on the planet, you are the Gift.. Thank you.. just like that.. I have shared my holy grail.. and if people losing using my system.. well.. something's wrong with you.. cos i win, guarantee to win for me.. you should stop.. get a job.. focus on your career.. You're not into this.. You don't have good mental attitude.. get out!!

Just like that..

Originally Posted by bacguy

Will any of you play a live shoe with me online so I can see if your way works?

I see you all have strong view points on so many topics, I figured you'all would be the ones I can finally get an HONEST answer from.

I like how you all are so blunt and quick to bring up any criticism in any claims. Thats good, it protects people and keeps people honest, I hope.

So I was wondering if any of you would be able to do what you all seem to ask others to do when that make claims of a successful system.

Will any of you be willing to demonstrate that the way you play works so that I can learn it too?

If not, do you know anyone here that would?

Or is everyone here all talk and a scammer?

The world is too small and live is too short. Most of us lost so much money in gambling and if you don't mind, may I say, let's promote positive talk here and let's help each other to overcome this bloody war-gambling!

Hi bacguy,

Just getting around to your post; not necessarily a bad thing as the old adage, "If you want something done, give it to someone who's busy."

Baccarat is a great way to re-think casino-gaming as a whole. Despite its lower house-edge(s)... it remains the toughest game to possibly(?) beat on a regular basis, and hence a valuable source of inspiration and motivation towards new achievements in many other fields of study as well. Contrast baccarat to the game of bj, by asking yourself, "What's interesting about that game any more, and who can still even have any fun with it at the casinos?"

Originally Posted by DiMenosCor

Reading through this forum and many others there is not one person who asks about the learning process. Most of them just jump through trying to skip the important steps of learning and just head straight to obtaining some "winning" system thinking that will set them on a life of easy money.

Considering the psychological tendency to best recall what is first and last read, they who haven't a few minutes, by comparison, to read the stuff in between, which took hours to freely compose by many writers... deserve precisely nothing, or less than that by following such limited advice.

Originally Posted by LuvBac

Compared to someone in this forum talking big about their winning without any proof? LOL.. Sorry dude.. As long as i don't see any proof, even that i know you're really popular here, and people admire you.. You're still in my scammer list, not more.

The only way to gain that sort of popularity by any message-board... lie, scam, and then lie some more. Otherwise, such an (honest) endeavor would be a super-huge waste of time, because much more money could be realized: by first playing the winning system(s) one's self, or as a group; then writing about it, and selling that publically for a small sum to a lot of potential buyers.

Use these boards for your own research; and to inspire others to part with some of theirs. And remember that honesty, hard work, etc, is always necessary though often not sufficient. (Nice guys do often "finish last", but just behind the jerks and scammers still well "out of the running".)

Originally Posted by bhumibol

Most of us lost so much money in gambling and if you don't mind, may I say, let's promote positive talk here and let's help each other to overcome this bloody war-gambling!

No matter how a shoe is "recorded", by who/what/where/when/why, history is history... until a month or year from now, when no one even remembers any of even that, exactly. Unless one calculates and continually updates some sort of real predictive measure(s) based on whichever workings of this game... nothing is going to come of it for the players. History can't suddenly or over the long-run become the future; or start to become one of those calculations of probability, etc, simply by staring at and ruminating about it over and over.

The casino's "divide and conquer" approach to offering this game, as evidenced by the majority of past and present posters here alone, itself demonstrates that no single "shoe recording" method, and hence system, "stands out" for every one at every time.