Sharing Maverick Ultimate

[Bryan]

Bryan, don't take it too seriously. He wasn't nurtured enough by Ellis from Btc that he feels we are all the same.

[bacguy]

I rebutted you because you are not talking the truth from your early post. So, why don't you tell us honestly, are you winning from playing maverick?

And just because we tell people that buying system is like throwing money into sea, we (I, Archer, Garb and others) need to prove to you that our system work? What logics is that? Don't you think you are childish?

And I won't reply you anymore... wasted my monday morning arguing with someone who never read my thread and accuse me of never giving out the trigger list.

If you think that your $1k can help to cover Mark ass, then go ahead.

Hey dumbass. READ! What did I say? I am winning but not enough? Don't you know any english?

I didn't say you needed to prove anything. All I asked was CAN YOU?

Its obvious you can't. I got my answer. all you had to do was say that, or not even reply at all. Just because you give away something, you think that means its good? The way you play obviously doesn't work.

I don't see Garnabby, Archer, or LuckoftheIrish playing your method. In fact is anyone here playing Bryans way and winning? Anyone want to publicly prove it?

Good don't reply. Your replies don't mean shit. EVERYONE now has seen that you cannot answer a simple question.

Now who is the scammer?

[bacguy]

Bryan, don't take it too seriously. He wasn't nurtured enough by Ellis from Btc that he feels we are all the same.

Joshky- I don't feel that everyone here is the same. Quite the opposite. That is why I asked the simple question. Is that some sort of tabboo question or something?

Hell I'm not winning enough with the Maverick that I know, so that is why I am asking. How is that defending BTC, Ellis or anyone else? I am publicly saying I'm looking for something else.

Why is Bryan so defensive? What is the big deal about sharing the trigger system? what is there to hide? I just don't get it? Why is he so against having to prove it?

What are you playing? Care to share?

[MaverickUltimate]

My poor thread got totally hijacked!
Come on guys - play in your own sandbox, please!

[DiMenosCor]

My poor thread got totally hijacked!
Come on guys - play in your own sandbox, please!

A warm welcome to baccaratforums.com.

That is just how we roll and rumble. As you can see most of everyone in here are a cynical and suspicious bunch. Yours truly included.

We all shoot and ask questions later. Or we just shoot. In all directions not looking what we are shooting at. Ha ha. A trigger happy bunch.

(Damn I really hate having an iPhone. Always able to log on.)

[LuvBac]

Hey dumbass. READ! What did I say? I am winning but not enough? Don't you know any english?

I didn't say you needed to prove anything. All I asked was CAN YOU?

Its obvious you can't. I got my answer. all you had to do was say that, or not even reply at all. Just because you give away something, you think that means its good? The way you play obviously doesn't work.

I don't see Garnabby, Archer, or LuckoftheIrish playing your method. In fact is anyone here playing Bryans way and winning? Anyone want to publicly prove it?

Good don't reply. Your replies don't mean shit. EVERYONE now has seen that you cannot answer a simple question.

Now who is the scammer?

Finally, while the others got scammed, someone clever shows up questioning the truth of the truth of the truth.. Lol

Bacguy i love you.. Im not gay, i just love smart people.. Lol..

[LuvBac]

A warm welcome to baccaratforums.com.

That is just how we roll and rumble. As you can see most of everyone in here are a cynical and suspicious bunch. Yours truly included.

We all shoot and ask questions later. Or we just shoot. In all directions not looking what we are shooting at. Ha ha. A trigger happy bunch.

(Damn I really hate having an iPhone. Always able to log on.)

cause it's fun isn't it?? I come to this forum to relax, to feed my brain.. What i got?? Everyday all 'smart' people arguing about nothing, and proof nothing and the losers who desperate to learn something actually looking at nothing except craps and another lot of craps.. Man this is fun.. To be honest i have been addicted to this forum, hahaha.. Cheap entertainment.. Enjoy it.. Btw i have solution for your iphone.. Give it to me.. Lol

[hlkhoo]

Hey dumbass. READ! What did I say? I am winning but not enough? Don't you know any english?

I didn't say you needed to prove anything. All I asked was CAN YOU?

Its obvious you can't. I got my answer. all you had to do was say that, or not even reply at all. Just because you give away something, you think that means its good? The way you play obviously doesn't work.

I don't see Garnabby, Archer, or LuckoftheIrish playing your method. In fact is anyone here playing Bryans way and winning? Anyone want to publicly prove it?

Good don't reply. Your replies don't mean shit. EVERYONE now has seen that you cannot answer a simple question.

Now who is the scammer?

Hey Bacguy,
Bryan is not a scammer. He did give out his triggers to a whole bunch of people before he decided to pull it back. I got his trigger and he didn't even ask a single dime from me. So, he's real.
Now, if you curious, his triggers didn't work! Some 2 weeks back, I did a short poll here in BF and asked if anyone actually wins from Bryan's trigger. Guess what? NONE!
So, really, you are not missing anything for not getting Bryan trigger.

You mentioned you are winning but NOT enough? I just don't understand your point. If you are winning, what's the problem? If you want to win big, just up your unit size! Not enough bankroll? No problem. Start accumulating from your small winnings and work your way up.

[Kent]

Hey Bacguy,
Bryan is not a scammer. He did give out his triggers to a whole bunch of people before he decided to pull it back. I got his trigger and he didn't even ask a single dime from me. So, he's real.
Now, if you curious, his triggers didn't work! Some 2 weeks back, I did a short poll here in BF and asked if anyone actually wins from Bryan's trigger. Guess what? NONE!
So, really, you are not missing anything for not getting Bryan trigger.

HLKhoo, I think your poll don't reflect anything. I don't log in regularly and I believe many people also don't log in regularly as well. I just read your poll and there is only you and another one response. So, base on that, you conclude nobody else get it work?

I am not trying to be biased, but, I think many people just keep quiet after a while. I do so as well after my last bust up with another member in Bryan's thread. And I just take a look at all those who claimed to win with Bryan's trigger, all have not been online since 1 or 2 months back. So, either they busy in casino or lost till no in sight.

I think the least you should do if you want to make a conclusion is to ask those people are they winning or losing, don't you think so?

For me, I will reply to you in Bryan's thread.

[Kent]

Hey dumbass. READ! What did I say? I am winning but not enough? Don't you know any english?

I didn't say you needed to prove anything. All I asked was CAN YOU?

Its obvious you can't. I got my answer. all you had to do was say that, or not even reply at all. Just because you give away something, you think that means its good? The way you play obviously doesn't work.

I don't see Garnabby, Archer, or LuckoftheIrish playing your method. In fact is anyone here playing Bryans way and winning? Anyone want to publicly prove it?

Good don't reply. Your replies don't mean shit. EVERYONE now has seen that you cannot answer a simple question.

Now who is the scammer?

Bacguy, let's cool down. Calling name don't reflect well on you as well.

I think Bryan is a bit harsh on his part for this maverick issue, but, let's look at it in another angle. You are playing maverick and even you hesitate to pay Mark the money, what message are you trying to tell us? Now, bear in mind that if you pay and lost, that money is gone. Bryan is just trying to tell us that don't play money for that and I think his intention is good in nature.

Now, it looks kind of weird that you and LuvBac called him a scammer when he never ask for money or anything from you guys. And when you guys pay money to Ellis or Mark and knowing that you might lost with their system, they are not scammers, don't you think it weird?

It sounds to be that you ignore that Bryan did posted a betting strategy for the entire shoe free on this forum, and just because he don't share the selective betting trigger with you and Luvbac, he becomes a scammer. It look like sour grapes to me.

I am not trying to side with Bryan, but, let's face the reality. LuckOfIrish got so many systems and yet there is none working, so, what do you think of Mark chance?

Well, if you think that it is worth, then go ahead and pay the money. I think Bryan is just trying to tell us to be careful here. I have chat with him many times and he is really a nice guy. All that he does is that he stopped giving out the trigger and cause all the unhappiness. But, I think he don't have any bad agenda.

Let's bury all the unhappiness and moved on from here.

[hlkhoo]

HLKhoo, I think your poll don't reflect anything. I don't log in regularly and I believe many people also don't log in regularly as well. I just read your poll and there is only you and another one response. So, base on that, you conclude nobody else get it work?

I am not trying to be biased, but, I think many people just keep quiet after a while. I do so as well after my last bust up with another member in Bryan's thread. And I just take a look at all those who claimed to win with Bryan's trigger, all have not been online since 1 or 2 months back. So, either they busy in casino or lost till no in sight.

I think the least you should do if you want to make a conclusion is to ask those people are they winning or losing, don't you think so?

For me, I will reply to you in Bryan's thread.

No worries Kent. I don't intend to further discuss about these triggers anymore. At least for me, it didn't work. That I can confirm.

[MaverickUltimate]

A warm welcome to baccaratforums.com.

That is just how we roll and rumble. As you can see most of everyone in here are a cynical and suspicious bunch. Yours truly included.

We all shoot and ask questions later. Or we just shoot. In all directions not looking what we are shooting at. Ha ha. A trigger happy bunch.

(Damn I really hate having an iPhone. Always able to log on.)

It's cuz the moderation at this forum doesn't exist.
It's absolutely the worst moderated forum I've ever seen.

[Archer]

I studied and practiced Maverick (the original one, not the new Ultimate) for awhile. During practice, I had a lot of success with it. But the first time I tried it out at a casino, I bombed big time. When I asked a few Maverick experts about how they would've played my losing shoes, they pointed out that I failed partly because I started out in the "wrong" mode, and partly because I hit a couple of its losing patterns very quickly.

That's the thing about Maverick: it is quite subjective. No two players using Maverick plays the same shoe the same way. In fact, if you try to play the same shoe again yourself using Maverick, you'll get a different result every time. That's because it only takes a single change in play, pause, or switch at a particular hand to significantly alter the final score. Moreover, because it keeps track of so many statistics, you can justify many different decisions with it. That's because there's always conflicting signals for which system to use, and the guessing game becomes, "Which system do I use now?" rather than "Which side to I bet now?"

In my experience, when Maverick bombs, it bombs fast: you can expect at least a string of 5+ straight losses during an average shoe (Mark says 7 consecutive losses is not out of the norm), and if you're using a fairly aggressive progression such as U1D2M2, you've dug a deep hole for yourself. From what I understand, Mark just keeps grinding through the drawdowns and increases the progressions accordingly. Personally, I don't have his courage, and I set a hard stop for myself of -20u as a rule, which pretty much is the 6th level of the U1D2M2 progression. To each his own, I suppose.

Those who claim to have great success with Maverick seem to be those who are already seasoned baccarat players who can make the "right" decisions based on what's happening to the shoe and Maverick's established guidelines. Again, though, no two of those baccarat experts using Maverick plays the same shoe the same way, and their results can differ substantially, but usually always positive. Their main encouragement to those who can't match their scores is just, "Keep practicing: the light bulb will turn on." There are a few of these Maverick experts on this forum, but most are at Ellis' forum, where Maverick was originally developed.

I don't know what Maverick Ultimate is like compared to the original Maverick. The buzz is that it is much more mechanical and less subjective, but I don't have any personal experience with it. I guess you have to pay Mark $1,000 tuition to learn it.

Let me know if you have any other questions about the original Maverick, though, if that information is helpful at all in your current endeavor.

Good post. I have looked over the original Maverick Method and I thought it was well thought out and explained very well. One might turn it into something less subjective.

I wold suggest that any of you who are playing Ellis' modified D'Alembert (U1D2M2) to first start U1D2 and only add the M2 when you are up at least 5 or 6 units. if you drop back to even than drop the M2.

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[Archer]

All craps....

Just putting to Ellis system together and it can get all you people so excited and think of paying $1k for that? Crazy.

Let me tell you why?



Bacguy, you forget that the other day you PM me asking me for my trigger list and you told me that you are winning consistently with Maverick. Now, who is trying to fool who now?



Try harder to convince me. Anyone playing know that losing 234 unit is a disaster, even at $25 per unit. So, Mark win back 234 units plus 1K that same night? Let say $25 per unit. So, he manage to win 40 unit ($1k) + 234, now, round to 300 units for each reference. Assume he is very good, win 30 units per shoe and take 10 shoes to win. Again let's assume the game goes very fast, 1 hr per shoes, so 10 hours to win..... the same night he win? Rubbish.



This is the only sensible thing you said in the entire post. Yes, paying for this rubbish is sucker.


There are many other things that you said is rubbish in your post, I just don't want to spend my time to go through everything.

The point is very clear. You are promoting for Mark and why don't you mention how much he paid you? Or you are part of his team to get suckers to pay for the system?

If Mark is really making that kinds of money he claimed (which of course, we all know now that he don't), then, he won't spend the time to teach for just $1k.

People offered me $100K to play with their money, I also rejected, what are you guys playing with? Monopoly money?

Maybe its time for me to repackage my FLD/OLD method and put up a price tag, how about package together with my selective betting trigger and comes with a play together session in Genting Highlands, do you think it will worth more than Mark $1k? I think it should, since I played 15 full time and Mark just played for slightly a year..... And you guys think he is expert, when he is losing all these while till he put Ellis two system in one.... what a joke!!!!

This is such a beautiful Sunday night here and I have to deal with all these nonsense.... suck.

LOL - It's hard to go agaiinst rational thinking!

Archer

[JonMakatraka]

Hi, im a spanish poker player, so im a fish at Baccarat world. But i think that Archer post says all very clear.

I have mailed mark and have mailed Bryan and i have to say in favor of Bryan , that he didnt ask for a $ never ever. You can`t call a guy scammer when all that he does is helping people sharing his knowledge.

At the moment, im playing the easy method he posted with a shoe...risking 5 € each unit. I have played 32 shoes...won 142 units. System is not mechanical , but i think in long term it works. Would be possible people is playing it here to PM to share shoes and how its going , winnings , etc ?

I know i know...like in poker..its not a good amount of hands, but what the hell ! ...if it dosnt works i didnt risk anything ! Now...in this moment,,if he tell me....that he coach me to play better...i would pay not $ 1000 ..i would pay $ 5.000 or $ 10.000 to learn from him.

In the other way...Maverick system ..I dont really know if it works...i have no idea...but posts with people that defend the system talking like that , i think its not a good way to make confidence to possible people interested like me. The other thing i really dont understand...teaching for $ 1k + $ 100 every month at private forum...i just dont get it...Mark explained to me....but i dont get it. I coach in poker , but from low to middle levels, till the levels i play ( $ 60 sits and goes ) .... i win ok...but no the amount baccarat can win with a winning system , so coaching is a complement for bas runs, when im tired of playig so many hours- days....but baccarat..u just seat and bet ..no hard thinking ...i just dont get it.Thats why im so exceptical at the moment to buy that system...its all about confidence.

Good luck to all

LOL - It's hard to go agaiinst rational thinking!

Archer

[LuvBac]

Bacguy, let's cool down. Calling name don't reflect well on you as well.

I think Bryan is a bit harsh on his part for this maverick issue, but, let's look at it in another angle. You are playing maverick and even you hesitate to pay Mark the money, what message are you trying to tell us? Now, bear in mind that if you pay and lost, that money is gone. Bryan is just trying to tell us that don't play money for that and I think his intention is good in nature.

Now, it looks kind of weird that you and LuvBac called him a scammer when he never ask for money or anything from you guys. And when you guys pay money to Ellis or Mark and knowing that you might lost with their system, they are not scammers, don't you think it weird?

It sounds to be that you ignore that Bryan did posted a betting strategy for the entire shoe free on this forum, and just because he don't share the selective betting trigger with you and Luvbac, he becomes a scammer. It look like sour grapes to me.

I am not trying to side with Bryan, but, let's face the reality. LuckOfIrish got so many systems and yet there is none working, so, what do you think of Mark chance?

Well, if you think that it is worth, then go ahead and pay the money. I think Bryan is just trying to tell us to be careful here. I have chat with him many times and he is really a nice guy. All that he does is that he stopped giving out the trigger and cause all the unhappiness. But, I think he don't have any bad agenda.

Let's bury all the unhappiness and moved on from here.

Dude, which part of my words telling you bryan is a scammer??

Im just telling you, without any winning proof everyone here can be categorized as a scammer lol.. Including me when i said i won 3 units everyday.. like i already said, everyone here claim to be a winner, but without any proof, who knows???

Except pitboss, andy, bryan (every hands played strategy) and the other guy played only banker i forgot his name.. They show how the way they play, you can test it.. When they say they win you'll know they're for real or not.. Do they have a chance to win or not..

How do you know i won 3 units per day?? How do you know bryan really won for 15 years?? how can you proof it?? Even the trigger list you dont have, how can you know he's really a winner, how can you test his way of play?? He claimed to be a big time winner have property investment settle living.. Wow!! Many people also said they are losing using bryan's trigger list.. And the people who is winning.. Who's that?? Are you still winning?? And when you lose, you begin wondering why.. and the answer of this question is maybe it's all about 15 years experience, insting, dude!! what kind of answer is that.. I mean wtf?? I can guarantee you even the best baccarat player in the world, baccarat champions can't predict the outcomes of baccarat with 75-80% hit rate??.. So you think that it' possible based on live shoe records for about 15 years?? Cmon man!! Doesnt make any sense at all.. Proof it if you want me to trust you!! If dont want.. Dont get offended by me if i dont trust your winning story and tell others not to easily fall to your story.. and by any chance, how can you know there is really one winner here in this forum??

How about me?? I claimed to be a winner, an amateur winner.. i can proof my word, im a winner because im not 'lose'.. I can show you how i play, just register to sbobet.com and play live together, free!! Just pm me if you want to play together.. Free!!! Without charge!!! Gratis!!! Im not guarantee you to win, but i can teach you not to lose, i can teach you how to manage your bankroll, i can teach you how to play relax and not fall into situation where you'll play mad when you're on consecutive losses.. And the most important thing, i can show you how to play not only 'if get lucky' to win but also have fun everytime you make your bet.. My system is as rubbish as any other system.. But who cares, i dont fool you or even courage you by telling you that im a big winner.. My suggestion to you is dont gamble.. Get a job focus on your career..

If you lose using my system, well dont play it.. Best is not even try playing baccarat especially if you think you'll make a living from baccarat..

Still, the best system is, play for fun, use money you can afford, and if you havent try to play baccarat, dont play it.. 99% of the time you'll become a loser, and if you dont have a good mental attitude, you'll go bankrupt..

Sorry for my english.. Ciao

P.s : mate, scammer is not only for them selling their system, scammer also can be for anyone who claim they're winner without showing any proof.. Open your eyes.. I can make winning story 10 times better than anyone's winning story here in this forum.. Dont easy to believe what people telling you..

[fp1]

I’ve been a member here for over a year. This is my first post.
Back in May of this year I decided to join BTC. The reason for me joining BTC was that I found the Ellis verbal abuse entertaining. Ellis would post and he would get trashed by just about everyone, and Ellis would just keep on posting. I knew he was marketing, but to put up with all the names he was called and keep his cool, I figured let me give him $50.
That was the best $50 I ever spent. Not because of Ellis but because of MAVERICK. Maverick was in full swing when I joined. It looked promising, the thread was somewhere around 600 posts at that time. I read every post twice, and then I printed out the manual and probably read it 20 times. I live in Vegas and have been playing BAC for many years. I decided to play old score cards that I have in the house using Maverick. To my surprise, of the 132 score cards, 96 were winners and 36 were losers, with a profit of 958 units.
The next step was to play in casinos. I started with red. After 20 shoes over a period of 4 weeks I had 19 winning shoes and 1 losing shoe, with a profit of 294 units. By that time Mark and BTC had a falling out. I knew Mark had started charging 1K for his Ultimate. Obviously I send Mark 1K. That was 3 weeks ago.
Since then I have spoken to Mark many times, he has explained MaverickUltimate to me. I want to test it against all my losing score cards to see how it plays out before I try it in a casino.
As of today my winnings are over $7000.00. Last week I started playing green. I won 2k on 4 shoes the very first time I switched to green. I haven’t been able to play since then. Overall 32 winning shoes, 2 loosing shoes and I have not incorporated Maverick Ultimate. Am I lucky? Maybe, who knows time will tell. All I can tell you is if you are going to try Maverick make sure you know it inside out and upside down before you bet a penny.

[bohebolo]

I’ve been a member here for over a year. This is my first post.
Back in May of this year I decided to join BTC. The reason for me joining BTC was that I found the Ellis verbal abuse entertaining. Ellis would post and he would get trashed by just about everyone, and Ellis would just keep on posting. I knew he was marketing, but to put up with all the names he was called and keep his cool, I figured let me give him $50.
That was the best $50 I ever spent. Not because of Ellis but because of MAVERICK. Maverick was in full swing when I joined. It looked promising, the thread was somewhere around 600 posts at that time. I read every post twice, and then I printed out the manual and probably read it 20 times. I live in Vegas and have been playing BAC for many years. I decided to play old score cards that I have in the house using Maverick. To my surprise, of the 132 score cards, 96 were winners and 36 were losers, with a profit of 958 units.
The next step was to play in casinos. I started with red. After 20 shoes over a period of 4 weeks I had 19 winning shoes and 1 losing shoe, with a profit of 294 units. By that time Mark and BTC had a falling out. I knew Mark had started charging 1K for his Ultimate. Obviously I send Mark 1K. That was 3 weeks ago.
Since then I have spoken to Mark many times, he has explained MaverickUltimate to me. I want to test it against all my losing score cards to see how it plays out before I try it in a casino.
As of today my winnings are over $7000.00. Last week I started playing green. I won 2k on 4 shoes the very first time I switched to green. I haven’t been able to play since then. Overall 32 winning shoes, 2 loosing shoes and I have not incorporated Maverick Ultimate. Am I lucky? Maybe, who knows time will tell. All I can tell you is if you are going to try Maverick make sure you know it inside out and upside down before you bet a penny.

Thanks for sharing ,

That means over 90% shoe winning rate you've done with Maverick, it's incredible achievement rarely reached. Congratulations .

What is the MM progression did you use mostly , did you stop betting :
1. after 3 consecutive losses , skip 3-4 hands, read Mav. Evaluation list ,
then resume progression where you left off.
2. after 4 consecutive losses ,Skip 3 hands , read Mav. Ev. list , resume
progression.
3. after 7 consecutive losses , read Mav.Ev. lists then resume
progression.
4. Or you alter other MM & bet to reduce the risk when in down spiral.
What is your stop loss limit for every shoe ? When you hit the max stop limit , Did you stop and restart the progression with double sized unit .

Did you run Maverick mechanically or set your mind on Maverick principles.
Can you explain very simple , please.

I believe you use U1D2M2 Progression , don't you.

Thanks in advance.

[MaverickUltimate]

I’ve been a member here for over a year. This is my first post.
Back in May of this year I decided to join BTC. The reason for me joining BTC was that I found the Ellis verbal abuse entertaining. Ellis would post and he would get trashed by just about everyone, and Ellis would just keep on posting. I knew he was marketing, but to put up with all the names he was called and keep his cool, I figured let me give him $50.
That was the best $50 I ever spent. Not because of Ellis but because of MAVERICK. Maverick was in full swing when I joined. It looked promising, the thread was somewhere around 600 posts at that time. I read every post twice, and then I printed out the manual and probably read it 20 times. I live in Vegas and have been playing BAC for many years. I decided to play old score cards that I have in the house using Maverick. To my surprise, of the 132 score cards, 96 were winners and 36 were losers, with a profit of 958 units.
The next step was to play in casinos. I started with red. After 20 shoes over a period of 4 weeks I had 19 winning shoes and 1 losing shoe, with a profit of 294 units. By that time Mark and BTC had a falling out. I knew Mark had started charging 1K for his Ultimate. Obviously I send Mark 1K. That was 3 weeks ago.
Since then I have spoken to Mark many times, he has explained MaverickUltimate to me. I want to test it against all my losing score cards to see how it plays out before I try it in a casino.
As of today my winnings are over $7000.00. Last week I started playing green. I won 2k on 4 shoes the very first time I switched to green. I haven’t been able to play since then. Overall 32 winning shoes, 2 loosing shoes and I have not incorporated Maverick Ultimate. Am I lucky? Maybe, who knows time will tell. All I can tell you is if you are going to try Maverick make sure you know it inside out and upside down before you bet a penny.

Cool! Thanks for the report! Yup, that's what I heard about it, too. Sounds for real. Sweet!

[Dak]

Maverick WEATHER FORECAST.....

It's gonna be shrilly for a while! lol

[fulkgl]

I have a suggestion for any system seller to help prove their system works, or detractors to gain ammunition to oppose them. Write a simple computer program to run a shoe through a system and display the results. Results should include number of hands won, lost, tied, total units risked, total units won, max bet size, and draw down. A person could enter a past shoe and see how it would have fared. Obviously the seller does not want to expose the details of the program to someone until they have paid. This would allow a simple, unbiased test to prove results. If you have 200 past real score cards, plug them in and see how you would have done. You can check your own shoes and not have to trust the seller isn't using doctored or select samples. Maybe, if the program showed you your own past results would have won enough, you can justify opening the checkbook. Otherwise, keep the checkbook closed.

[fp1]

BOHEBOLO to answer your questions.
Always U1D2M2 progression. Stop loss is 30 units. I also stop playing if I have to make a bet that if it lost would put me above 30 units. Maverick manual says if you lose a shoe. double your bets on the next shoe. I don’t do that.
When I lose 2 bets in a row I evaluate my score card looking to see if something has developed (triggers). If there something there I will switch right away with no pauses. Other times I will pause. I’ve paused as many 9 hands before making a bet after losing 2 in a row.
Hope this answers your questions.

[pitty1]

The only con i don't like about the mav strategy is the F2 bet...following the 2's..quite often theres a run of three 2's in a row..if ur suppose to jump on every 2's...you coud be down by 6 alot..

[bohebolo]

[QUOTE=pitty1;23518]The only con i don't like about the mav strategy is the F2 bet...following the 2's..quite often theres a run of three 2's in a row..if ur suppose to jump on every 2's...you coud be down by 6 alot..[/Q

Maverick is just an approach , the author gives you an idea on how ,which , what and when to use the system during a shoe.
I personally Fuse several systems like RDh ,switch to OLD / S.40 , always recheck after 2 losses, pause bet after 3 losses , Maverick Evaluations, skip 3-4 hands , if clear trigger arise , resume bet.
Choose the systems that fit to the table conditions where you play ,then switch accordingly.

Yes Pitty1 , I agree with you, lots of time when I switched to F series , this even hurts more.

[ADulay]

The only con i don't like about the mav strategy is the F2 bet...following the 2's..quite often theres a run of three 2's in a row..if ur suppose to jump on every 2's...you coud be down by 6 alot..

Pity1,

Well, the F2 play in Maverick works well even in that situation as the rules would have you out of it after the the win at hand 5 and back into a winning betting play.

Also, you might not even BE on the F2 side depending on what led into those 2's.

If you came into the run of three 2's under the other side of Maverick, it's all wins.

AD (a happy Maverick player)

[pitty1]

Oh I see what u mean with F2..after the first switch on f2 u go 3 plays on that side to get away from the TT's..That would make more sense than chasing 2's...of course i did leave out all the rules of suchnsuch THEN.Just how strong is F2 in a shoe is compared to RD1-h or opposite?

[Bryan]

Dude, which part of my words telling you bryan is a scammer??

Im just telling you, without any winning proof everyone here can be categorized as a scammer lol.. Including me when i said i won 3 units everyday.. like i already said, everyone here claim to be a winner, but without any proof, who knows???

Everyone already rest their case and here you are still arguing. I really feel sorry for you.

If you think that you want to start a thread and tell people how to bet, then jolly well go ahead. Going by your betting post in another thread,
I am sure you will be very popular here because everyone will make money because of you. All they got to do is does everything exactly opposite of you.

And I didn't ask you to believe that I win for 15 years, have property investment and everything else that I wrote. If you don't believe, then don't read, as simple as that.

If you need to see proof for everything before you believe it is true, you are just making life harder for you.

[Bryan]

HLKhoo, Kent, JonMakatrak
Thanks for speaking up for me..... Me a scammer? LOL..... Well, let's forgive and forget about all these.

[Bryan]

I always have strong opinion on paying for gambling system, especially those into 4 figures or recurring charges.

For this maverick, I think I am a bit hard on bacguy because I read his first post and found a lot of questionable points and that lead me to think that he is marketing for Mark. Well, let me apologize to bacguy for that, I am too quick to come to a conclusion.

Kent has made a point right. LuckoftheIrish has a huge collection of system and there is none that works, what make you guys think that Maverick is exception? Now, if that is free, I have no issue, let's play it out and see if it works, but, for 1K and 100 buck per month, that is too steep a price to check out.

We all know that Mark is not winning, else, he wouldn't have joined BTC and then, from there, he got two Ellis system together and that's Maverick. There are a few questions that you need to ask yourself if you think that it is worth $1k.

1. He claimed 100% winning session. Now, anyone that have been playing this game for long will know that it is not possible.

2. He break away from Ellis because of money issue. Why? Because he see the huge potential money he can make from suckers paying for his system. If he is so noble, why don't he stay with Ellis and let's people just pay $50 to Ellis to access his system?

3. Anyone winning with his original Maverick? So far, all I read is AD, John1234 and nobody else.


Now, everyone know the nigerian scam where they promised you a percentage of out billion, but, to get that money, you pay a processing fee. Everyone know it is a scam, yet, there are still suckers who believe that the fortune god is smiling at them and pay the money out and lost it.

Similarly, everyone who purchase gambling systems are just living on a false hope, hoping that they will make money from it. But, everyone fails. So, why did you still want to pay for all these? I cannot understand.

There are several systems discussed on this forum, pick anyone, put in a good MM, you could does better than spending the money on garbage.


Last week, I was playing with my 3 year old girl. She is eating a ice cream cove and I asked her:

"darling, let me have the ice cream and I will go buy another 5 for you.".

Her answer: "daddy, you go and buy the 5 ice cream and eat 1. Give me the remainder 4."


Even a 3 year old kid can understand the similar logic behind it and sometimes I just wonder what goes wrong that causes adult to think differently when they are suppose to be smarter than the kid.

[Archer]

There are several systems discussed on this forum, pick anyone, put in a good MM, you could does better than spending the money on garbage.

DITTO

Last week, I was playing with my 3 year old girl. She is eating a ice cream cove and I asked her:

"darling, let me have the ice cream and I will go buy another 5 for you.".

Her answer: "daddy, you go and buy the 5 ice cream and eat 1. Give me the remainder 4."

LOL


Even a 3 year old kid can understand the similar logic behind it and sometimes I just wonder what goes wrong that causes adult to think differently when they are suppose to be smarter than the kid.[/QUOTE]