Thread: Some baccarat stats

I just got sent some baccarat stats from a friend.

In 100 thousand shoes:

From the beginning of a shoe, the most decisions that went by without a "PP" was 50.

The least amount of players in one shoe was 18. This was also the lowest percentage player shoe at 25%. There was 18 players in 72 total decisions.

8485 shoes out of 100 000 did not contain at least one "PPPP" sequence.gl

Look at this horrible shoe if you were betting on banker:

PPPPBPPPPBPPBPPBPPBPPPPBPPPPBBPPPPPPPPPPPBPBPPPPBP PBPPBPBPPPPPBPBPBPBP

Originally Posted by LuckoftheIrish

Look at this horrible shoe if you were betting on banker:

PPPPBPPPPBPPBPPBPPBPPPPBPPPPBBPPPPPPPPPPPBPBPPPPBP PBPPBPBPPPPPBPBPBPBP

What possible clue or trend would cause anyone to bet Banker in that shoe???

AD

Clue or trend? Sorry but trends can either go on or stop. There are no advantage bets in baccarat.

Originally Posted by LuckoftheIrish

Clue or trend? Sorry but trends can either go on or stop. There are no advantage bets in baccarat.

What can I possibly say?

I've got three primary plays here and each one of them just killed that shoe and it played three different ways.

If trends are so "neutral" then why even keeps statistics?

Did anyone else run "their" system play on that shoe? Anybody else get anything from it?

AD

Sorry but I have run extensive tests on RNG shoes, real shoes, and the Zumma tester books. The law of series holds true and there is no advantage to be seen.

Originally Posted by ADulay

What can I possibly say?

I've got three primary plays here and each one of them just killed that shoe and it played three different ways.

If trends are so "neutral" then why even keeps statistics?

Did anyone else run "their" system play on that shoe? Anybody else get anything from it?

AD

This one was very easy for my system. I don't understand why he is labeling this shoe as hard. Yea, I guess it is hard if you only bet banker, but who in their right mind would?

Or how about this shoe betting on player:

BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBPBPPBPBPBBPBPBPBPPBBBPBPBPB BPBPBBPBBPBBBBBPPBP

Wow.

Originally Posted by LuckoftheIrish

Or how about this shoe betting on player:

BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBPBPPBPBPBBPBPBPBPPBBBPBPBPB BPBPBBPBBPBBBBBPPBP

Wow.

Bet Bank?????? Do you need some sort of help? I don't know how you plan to beat this game playing one side of an EC.

Go peddle some more worthless systems you scammer LOL

I think I will trade for you latest piece of shit and then send it to John so he can upload it for free.

Originally Posted by LuckoftheIrish

Look at this horrible shoe if you were betting on banker:

PPPPBPPPPBPPBPPBPPBPPPPBPPPPBBPPPPPPPPPPPBPBPPPPBP PBPPBPBPPPPPBPBPBPBP

LuckoftheIrish, Suppose if one were to be betting banker alone with loss exit points at 10 units and playing a bundle of 10 shoes at one time. How many times in that one bundle would he expect to see this type of results. I would have to say, quite rarely, don't you think?

Originally Posted by LuckoftheIrish

Go peddle some more worthless systems you scammer LOL

I think I will trade for you latest piece of shit and then send it to John so he can upload it for free.

What is "my latest piece of shit"????? And what am I selling? NOTHING. Funny thing is that only 3 people have the system that I am using right now and you are not one of them.

I have beaten every shoe you have posted. Killed the most recent one (w How about this. You keep posting shoes. I keep beating them. You keep feeling like a loser and making pathetic posts because that is all you have going for you? Deal? Good.

I thought you were going to put me on your ignore list LOL. You worthless twat.

Originally Posted by LuckoftheIrish

I thought you were going to put me on your ignore list LOL. You worthless twat.

I thought about then but then I decided that it is fun reading your stupid posts.

go ahead, call me worthless but at least I actually play this game and win, instead of hanging around a baccarat forum making virtual friends and trading systems. What a waste.

Worthless twat.

In a BIG picture..Roughly 1 in 10 shoes will miss a PPPP..in a way would make it a strong pattern..that could knock out chops for wins and also the 3's

Example playin one side Player only..PPPP pattern.
Banker dominant shoe posted
After the 23 B streak(wow)
P start betting..
B..lose
P..win..start over..P..start betting
B..loss
P..win...start over
B
P...start betting
BB..loss,loss
P..win..start over
BB
P..start betting
B
P..win..start over
B
P..start betting..P..win..start over
BBB
P..start betting
B..loss
P..win..start over
B
P...start betting
BB..loss,loss
P..win...start over
B
P..start betting
BB..loss,loss
P..win..start over
BB
P..start betting
BBBBB...loss,loss,loss,loss..stop. B
P..start betting..P win..
and on the player dominant shoe..well thats history..

Originally Posted by LuckoftheIrish

Or how about this shoe betting on player:

BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBPBPPBPBPBBPBPBPBPPBBBPBPBPB BPBPBBPBBPBBBBBPPBP

Wow.

Where are you getting those shoes from? They are MONEY MAKERS!!

Are they real? Did you play them or get them from a friend? How did they do on them??

AD

Originally Posted by LuckoftheIrish

Worthless twat.

That is all that you have to say? You think that name calling is going to upset me? Your responses reflect the intellect of a 10 year old. Come on, be a little more mature because you are only making yourself look like a jackass.

You never even answered my question, you are too busy going right for the "insults." I would say that you are pathetic, but you and everybody else here already knows that (except for the people will will pretend to be your friend {virtual friend} to get some of those systems you have).

Don't bother responding. I already know what you are going to say.

Originally Posted by ADulay

Where are you getting those shoes from? They are MONEY MAKERS!!

Are they real? Did you play them or get them from a friend? How did they do on them??

AD

I have a feeling that he either lost or they are not real. I don't think he plays the game, he only trades systems.

At least I am not a shill for a bunch of baccarat scams trying to fleece people because I can not come up with something that wins. It is pretty obvious you and MalCop did no research and no testing before putting out your garbage systems.

You write:

With SBS 1 the average should be 1 or 2 units per shoe.

LOL Who are you trying to kid? The system is total and utter garbage. And what makes you think I don't play LOL. I probably play higher units and make more money than you LOL

Originally Posted by LuckoftheIrish

At least I am not a shill for a bunch of baccarat scams trying to fleece people because I can not come up with something that wins. It is pretty obvious you and MalCop did no research and no testing before putting out your garbage systems.

You write:

With SBS 1 the average should be 1 or 2 units per shoe.

LOL Who are you trying to kid? The system is total and utter garbage. And what makes you think I don't play LOL. I probably play higher units and make more money than you LOL

Wow thanks for actually saying something else.

First, I highly doubt that you are capable of learning or playing any of the SBS systems, except for the Assassin. We had a lot of people who had trouble learning them because they ended up being more complex than we thought, I have a feeling that you fall into that group of people. Those who did take the time to learn it did win. It may be garbage to you, but I highly doubt you even tried to learn it. We also did a ton of testing, so much testing that i never want to look at the 8 and 9 values again.

I will admit that they are not the most conventional methods, they are a bit complex, but they do work. It is a grind.


Second, I have a feeling that you never saw the Assassin but I hope you realize that you have been posting shoes that it beats haha.


Third, I use a system that you have never seen. There is no possible way that you have seen it Because I have not sold it nor will I ever sell it. Looks like you joined this forum a bit late but we stopped selling awhile ago.

Fourth, I honestly don't think you play and if you do play I don't think you play well. I am basing my assumptions off of your posts, however I could be wrong. If you do play then you probably use one of the systems you trade for and play with baby units. But we all need to start somewhere. I once started at the $5 units too. One thing that is for sure is that you don't win consistently. Because A) you have nothing of value to say and B) you trade for systems which tells me that you are still on the hunt.


Post up any shoe that you have and I will play it. I obviously won't win every shoe but I'll win more consistently with less risk than you.
and no, I wont be using any SBS systems. Only my system that has killed the easy shoe that you have been posting.

Sorry I don't associate with con men shilling a two bit baccarat system. Nothing you say can be trusted. The SBS systems are complete garbage. I had them from the beginning and tested them and guess what, just another system fit for the shitter. I haven't seen such tripe since Izak.

Next time you sell a system for god's sakes, make it original. You would think one of these scammers might actually come up with something one of these days.

Originally Posted by LuckoftheIrish

Sorry I don't associate with con men shilling a two bit baccarat system. Nothing you say can be trusted. The SBS systems are complete garbage. I had them from the beginning and tested them and guess what, just another system fit for the shitter. I haven't seen such tripe since Izak.

Next time you sell a system for god's sakes, make it original. You would think one of these scammers might actually come up with something one of these days.

well if you did play the system right, which I still doubt then it just goes to show that no system is perfect which I never claimed. what did you test the system on? There is no way that you could have tested it on zumma, that would have been impossible. So you would have had to do a lot of live testing.

I won't be selling any more systems. I have come up with something. Just not for sale.

Rofl

hahaha I see john said something to me. Guess what..I can't see it!!!

My guess is that you said something about me playing online (which I can't do in the US, I have and it wasn't worth it), probably something about my system, probably something else pointless, and probably a whole lot of garbage that isn't worth reading because you have said it all a million times. All You do is is repeat, you are very predictable now. Come up with some new material, other than your lies...you are getting very boring.

Rofl

Great response from a retard. You should meet up with Johno, I hear he is gay and you seem to be trying to follow close in his shadow.

I have also heard on another fourm that Johno has been burned many times by the casino. Those crazy progressions got the best of him, I guess that is why he is so bitter. And I assume that the same thing happened to you because you have already admitted that you do not win this game.
To quote you:

I can not come up with something that wins.

only a few posts before this one.

It is such a shame that you have to spend your time trading systems and "rofling" (what is that? some sexual term??) at some pathetic loser named Johno who thinks that giving systems a way is going to change the world.

Originally Posted by John

Then they must be as thick as you. Bet against a run of 3, bet against a run of 2 after chops.

This little punk ass is restricted to playing on-line, hence the on-line graphics. And for your information, it is spelt Fibonacci dumb-ass, a number system for counting rabbits Fortunately you get the feel of a persons level of exprience by how they write and what they ask. What was that called again? Oh yeah the TIE line (dumb-ass wannbe punk scammer).

Originally Posted by LuckoftheIrish

haha yup, I was right. A bunch of garbage.

Funny thing about this guy is he makes up lie after lie. I have never written the word Fibonacci in my life so I don't understand how I spelled a word wrong that I never wrote.

this line cracks me up:

"This little punk as" why so angry? It sounds like you want to fight haha chill out. STOP FLEXING YOUR VIRTUAL MUSCLES. They scare me

Originally Posted by LuckoftheIrish

Look at this horrible shoe if you were betting on banker:

PPPPBPPPPBPPBPPBPPBPPPPBPPPPBBPPPPPPPPPPPBPBPPPPBP PBPPBPBPPPPPBPBPBPBP

Using Ellis's System 40 in this shoe, you win 36 units, not an endorsement, only an observation. Conversely, I've lost 15-20 units in a shoe with that same system.

You have me confused with somone else sport. I've never participated in any gambling forum until now. Get your facts straight if you wish to have an intelligent discourse with me. Good luck to you.