Thread: List of the systems I have for trade

Anyone want to trade for any of these:

Maverick Trigger's Master Manual

134 page PDF with many systems from E Clifton Davis called U2HI Sap B/P Manual, SAP Hybrid, OTB4L System, F2, F2N, F2N0, The Twister 8, Advanced Twister, Anti-Twister, Advanced Twister, Tw00, T2Hi, System N, System-3, RD1, The AD system, and ADOT.

Power Professional Roulette Method from David J. Sralik

Magic Number Roulette system from Donny Millionaire

ULT Roulette system

Omega Roulette

Spectrum X by Donny Millionaire

TerBOB Ultimate Winning Roulette System from Ebay

MGM Profits Ebay Roulette system

W3 and W6 from roulettelaboratory dot com

Casino Buster from winning-at-roulette dot com

Dr Lim's Anti X and Casino Code

Ben Yarbrough's Bear Market system and Translation Approach

Win Maxx Conversion, Compound and Continuity

Every baccarat system from ultimateprecisiongaming dot 100mb dot com

Dragon level 1 and 2 baccarat system

BIP 160 used to be sold at smtinvest dot com

Pendulum aggressive and conservative baccarat from pendulumbaccarat dot com

Roulette guy secret system from rouletteguysecret dot com

Santa Claus Baccarat from santaclausbaccarat dot com

The baccarat experts system from thebaccaratexperts dot com

Power roulette system from powerroulette dot com

The baccarat edge system sold at baccaratedge dot com

Sniper systems from sniperbaccarat dot com

Almost every system from letstalkwinning dot com

Predictor Gold from baccarat-system dot com

Ultimate Baccarat and Tie system from casinoedge dot com

Baccarat systems from baccaratsystem dot net

24 karat baccarat and 24 karat baccarat plus used to be sold at 24karatbaccarat dot com AND simulator

Bunch of systems from Martin Silverthorne

New Chop Bacc,New Total bacc and Consistent Profit Roulette from Leonard Benson

Baccarat Group Profits came out same time as Powerplay baccarat

Kanzen Roulette system from Kanzen dot com

Serena's 14 Number Euro and American numbers

Mr Majik's system from mrmajik dot com

3Q/A Reverse Select from R.D Ellison

Fast Roulette from 101roulettewinningtips dot com

Guerilla Roulette used to be sold at guerillaroulette dot com and hyped up several years ago on gamblersglen by "betbrett"

Andruchi Roulette system from andruchi dot com

I am not even going to mention all of the systems I have from Izak Matatya, and all the Craps methods I also have. Not to mention some of the wheel clocking and visual ballistics stuff I also have. Also all the free systems.

Anyone interested in any of these?

Damn dude...I bow before the humble one...I am a worthless peasant with peanut systems compared to ur library of knowledge.Please share..

Originally Posted by LuckoftheIrish

Power Professional Roulette Method from David J. Sralik

Magic Number Roulette system from Donny Millionaire

ULT Roulette system

Omega Roulette

Spectrum X by Donny Millionaire

TerBOB Ultimate Winning Roulette System from Ebay

MGM Profits Ebay Roulette system

W3 and W6 from roulettelaboratory dot com

Casino Buster from winning-at-roulette dot com

Dr Lim's Anti X and Casino Code

Ben Yarbrough's Bear Market system and Translation Approach

Win Maxx Conversion, Compound and Continuity

Every baccarat system from ultimateprecisiongaming dot 100mb dot com

Dragon level 1 and 2 baccarat system

BIP 160 used to be sold at smtinvest dot com

Pendulum aggressive and conservative baccarat from pendulumbaccarat dot com

Roulette guy secret system from rouletteguysecret dot com

Santa Claus Baccarat from santaclausbaccarat dot com

The baccarat experts system from thebaccaratexperts dot com

Power roulette system from powerroulette dot com

The baccarat edge system sold at baccaratedge dot com

Sniper systems from sniperbaccarat dot com

Almost every system from letstalkwinning dot com

Predictor Gold from baccarat-system dot com

Ultimate Baccarat and Tie system from casinoedge dot com

Baccarat systems from baccaratsystem dot net

24 karat baccarat and 24 karat baccarat plus used to be sold at 24karatbaccarat dot com AND simulator

Bunch of systems from Martin Silverthorne

New Chop Bacc,New Total bacc and Consistent Profit Roulette from Leonard Benson

Baccarat Group Profits came out same time as Powerplay baccarat

Kanzen Roulette system from Kanzen dot com

Serena's 14 Number Euro and American numbers

Mr Majik's system from mrmajik dot com

3Q/A Reverse Select from R.D Ellison

Fast Roulette from 101roulettewinningtips dot com

Guerilla Roulette used to be sold at guerillaroulette dot com and hyped up several years ago on gamblersglen by "betbrett"

Andruchi Roulette system from andruchi dot com

I am not even going to mention all of the systems I have from Izak Matatya, Ellis, and all the Craps methods I also have. Not to mention all of the wheel clocking and visual ballistics stuff I also have. Also all the free systems.

Anyone interested by any of these?

No, but I'm sure I've got one to sell you...........LOL

How is the systems by the baccarat experts? Any good?

You think you are so clever, what makes you think I paid for any of them you joker. LOL

And what makes you think I paid for all of these systems? LOL

Baccarat Experts is basically picking a random (I forget either 5 or 6 length) pattern and betting a martingale against it I think. Something stupid like that.

I should have made it clear that my wish is to trade for other systems. I will make certain exceptions in some cases though.

LuckoftheIrish, Do any of the above methods have an MM worthwhile looking at?

Off the top of my head, I have a few systems that are not mentioned there that have a few decent approaches. Project 202 is a good read, as is Baccarat Strategy Gold by Jerry Patterson. That one deals with the fact that almost all shoes has at least 20 players and 20 bankers in them and trying to take advantage of that. I will look at my other ones and get back to you.

Project 202 has an interesting MM. A more recent system I received called Baccarat Strategy Gold by the clown Jerry Patterson and company is based on the notion that most shoes have at least 20 players and 20 bankers. I will have to look at some other ones and see if any interesting MM's come to mind.

Much appreciated.

Most systems claims an advantage bet. Some examples are Sniper garbage, Ben Yarbrough's Bear Market and Translation Approach, Mitchell ShoeMaker's Ultimate Precision Baccarat systems, BIP 160 etc. It is all a bunch of bullshit as these systems were all tested on real and RNG shoes and failed miserably. I believe the only way to win at baccarat is with a MM/Progressive system that might take advantage of the closed universe nature of the game.

I think the only way to win is get the freaking bet correct. LOL. The reason why most systems fail is because of the loss gap. If you had a system that ussually doesnt lose in long succesion then using a negative progression would tend to work. So the ultimate answer is "where to bet".
I have most of these systems too and they dont stand a chance against competing with randomness. I learned something today that really opened my eyes about bet selection and randomness. You guys wanna hear it?

Originally Posted by LuckoftheIrish

I should have made it clear that my wish is to trade for other systems. I will make certain exceptions in some cases though.

Would you like to trade . I have couple of system , I be more than happy to trade it with you ..

Originally Posted by BacWiz

I think the only way to win is get the freaking bet correct. LOL. The reason why most systems fail is because of the loss gap. If you had a system that ussually doesnt lose in long succesion then using a negative progression would tend to work. So the ultimate answer is "where to bet".
I have most of these systems too and they dont stand a chance against competing with randomness. I learned something today that really opened my eyes about bet selection and randomness. You guys wanna hear it?

yeah let hear it !!

I have sent you a PM.

That is one helluva of impressive list! From a guy who has been a baccarat system junkie purchaser (where I spent my hard earn cash), I think low priced ones get more bang for the buck. You won't feel so bad if you lose with those systems cause you didn't have high expectations because of purchase price. The ones with excessive price tags are the ones from mass marketer hucksters and fancy websites. They probably don't play Bac, they just make money selling a "system" that they know over time doesn't work. All these elaborate systems, and what does it come down to..Player or Banker. That's it..Forget the ties, dragons,no commission bac..Just player and banker. Look at the percentages, the casino advantage, and work with that. Be disciplined, give yourself enough of a purse to work with, have rigid stop loss, and also give yourself a modest goal when winning and leave, leave the tables. Its your only chance of survival over long term.

LuckyIrish
How did you manage to get all those systems for free and how did the Gold Predictor from baccarat-systems.com go for you?

I started out many years ago with kind people sending me free commercials systems and then I would trade those for others. I also bought a few over the years, more rare ones, that I also used to trade up. Now I buy nothing and just trade for whatever I want. Usually someone has the system I am interested in, and will trade for it.

Wow that is an impressive list. If you had to pick only one to play, what would it be? Or I guess to be blunt, what do you play as you have such an extensive baccarat experience?

Thank you.

Is anything from baccarat systems, 3d version. 2 any good, it's suppose to work off of 3 different triggers? I try to stay on the strong side, it seems when I have lost a bet, it's usually on the weak side!

Funny you should ask that, I just got some news about that system. 3D baccarat Version 2 was tested against both Zumma testers, and ended well into the negative. Thus it is a loser.

Thanks for the info, do u know what triggers are used in the system? I am curious about that? I use blocks of nine including ties to determine my bet selection, I qualify the bet by looking at the last 6 hands played! If both the box of nine and the last 6 are biased to both sides, I then one bet and one bet only on that strong side! If the outcome of my box and last six are different, I don't bet that box, over the last couple of weeks, I am averaging 1 unit profit per shoe, some shoes win, some shoes lose, averaging 5-7 bets per shoe! I was hoping that everyone would post what they consider to be their best bet that they consider to be a high percentage bet!! Maybe someone will start a new thread with that info in it, without all of the name calling, maybe we could start winning and quit fighting with each other!!

I think I am going to list every system I have, not just the rarer ones, and either update the list here or make a new thread.

i am new to the community and just joined today. i was wondering how to get any good systems for baccarat. can anyone send me some. also trying to learn how to post here. lol. i was reading the free forum and sounds interesting. thanks to all. richard

would anyone in this forum explain the OTB4L system to me in my email or in this forum. i would appreciate it as i am not new to baccarat but new to this forum. thanks so much for your help. good luck to all of you. richard

TB4L stands for time before last. This is the term coined by system seller Ellis and is used by him and his followers. You are betting decision before last. This is also known as "avant dernier" or "dbl".

OTBL is opposite of TB4L.

thanks so much for the reply. sorry im just new and need to learn the terminology. thanks again. richard

Originally Posted by BacWiz

I think the only way to win is get the freaking bet correct. LOL. The reason why most systems fail is because of the loss gap. If you had a system that ussually doesnt lose in long succesion then using a negative progression would tend to work. So the ultimate answer is "where to bet".
I have most of these systems too and they dont stand a chance against competing with randomness. I learned something today that really opened my eyes about bet selection and randomness. You guys wanna hear it?

Did you ever answer this? I think I know what you are going to say. Let's hear it.

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