Maverick

[pitty1]

From Zuan Xins BGL..exploit abnormalities of avg.expectancy the shoe distributes of 1's,2's,3's,4's and on per shoe..But unlike Zuan Xins BGL u bet a little more aggressive instead of waiting longer...kinda crash into them..the 1's and 2's u will find as a more frequent outcome so try betting repeats for the 1's and if that starts crashing switch to betting for the 2's ...just make sure u have a big bankroll to absorb a loss of 4 or more which most likely will challenge u in play..if u get flustered...sit it out..review how the shoe is behaving.. i say within the last 7-10 hands..and then jump back in..remember ur in it to win..so if ur up to say a good few units maybe it would be a good time to bail out and wait for a new shoe..Once i get a few kinks out of the way with a couple of mild progressions... it should be fairly easy but not mechanical to play...and then i will call this system..."JOHNNY CASH"...

[Ellis]

If you have to "make sure you have a big enough bank roll", you're playing stupid. If you can't win with 30 units, forget it. You don't know what you're doing. Try Parchesi or however you spell it. Make your big bets with their money - not yours. If you are not winning you have no business making big bets. They'll get you. It's just a question of time.

[kadiddle]

Ellis..............I could be wrong, but it seems the same people who come into this forum who are only negative were also members on the paying forum, so I don't think this forum has a monopoly on negative people. Someone on here mentioned there's an ignore on here whereby you can ignore posts from people who are obviously simply losers and want to prove it to everyone else.

[pitty1]

The bigger the bankroll the better..All strategies set some kind of standards of being able to stay in the game in the event to overcome a loss expectancy of a 4 streak or more...in fact I know of no systems whatsoever that can say u will never encounter a loss streak of 4 or more per shoe if u play it right.General wins are based on a pecentage of your bankroll..basically 1-10%.So to stay in the game... it's good to have a large enough bankroll to keep u in the game say up to 4 times of an average expectancy loss...U wanna win..It's better to nail a fly with a flyswatter...don't u think? I think a good ideal to hit ur single 1's or chops would be a simple Fibo to recover the single miss in the event the shoe remains choppy or say stays with the single runs of 1's..

[LuckoftheIrish]

If you have to "make sure you have a big enough bank roll", you're playing stupid. If you can't win with 30 units, forget it. You don't know what you're doing. Try Parchesi or however you spell it. Make your big bets with their money - not yours. If you are not winning you have no business making big bets. They'll get you. It's just a question of time.

What absolute rubbish. This guy is supposed to be some kind of baccarat guru? ROFL

I have had tests done with a positive 0.75% and 1% edge in baccarat and in flat betting, there was draw downs of over 1000 units. And believe me, nobody on here is playing with a positive 1% edge. And hitting and running doesn't work either, as the results are similar.

[pitty1]

Keeping in mind the "johnnie cash" strategy..I have been asked is there a foundation to this or is it supernatural.Well yes and no..yes its based on a average shoe distribution and no those events do not occur as exactly expected.It is well known of the predictive avg. of 1 in a row,2 in a row,3 in a row,4 in a row and ect...i.e. B..BB..BBB..BBBB..were talkin 1 every 4 hands,2 every 8 hands,3every 16 hands,4 every 16 hands..they have been posted several times on this forum..look at this shoe example..
BBB
P
B
P
BBBB
PP
B
PP
B
P
B
PPT
B
PP
BBB
P
BBB
PPPP
BB
PP
BBTB
PPPPP
B
PTP
BB
PPT
BBBB
P
BT
P
B
P
B
P
BB
PP
B
PP
B
One thing we know about random..U will never see a shoe PBPBPB from the begining to end nor will u see a PPBBPPBB that never stops from the begining to end.If u have witness a shoe distribute like this..then how many times would u expect to see this to reoccur in ur lifetime.Expected avg. has been analyzed that all shoes on average will distribute more singles in a row and doubles more than a double streaking out to 3 or moe in a row and on.

[pitty1]

Now if u count out the 1's there was 18..and made the avg.distribution one should consider..The 2's in a row total=12..and is above avg. the 3's and more total=8 and equals the avg.The" johnnie cash" strategy says monitor the shoes to see if they are up to par or if abnormalities are transpiring.So whats a good start to bet on..well the 1's are dominant expectations..so u should start out going for betting on 1's.What kind of way? well how about some kind of bets that the 1's will repeat..I don't mean a streak..I mean you bet for a single change or dare i say a chop.if it continues...goody goody..but hey along the way the 1 stuck.. should it make u tremble yet thinking u might be on a double or perhaps a streak..the risk to find out would be to expect the 1 to still dominate and bet for the 1 i.e..1 1 12 bet for a 1 again..real world.. B P BB bet P..and see if the chop continues which u have a 50/50 shot at.A mild progression should be sacrificed here to see if u can continue on..If a struggle begins then it's time to focus on the 2nd dominant shoe expectations...The 2's and perhaps change to a new money management strategy.A trigger moment..

[pitty1]

PPTPTTPTP
BBB
P
B
P
B
P
BB
PPPPP
BTBB
PP
BB
PP
BB
P
B
PP
B
PP
B
PTP
B
PTP
BT
PPP
BBB
PPP
B
P
B
P
BBB
PT
B
PPP
BBB
P
Here u got fifteen 1's..3 short of average..eight 2's short of avg.by1...eight 3's..double the average and three 4+ minus one of average.
With this shoe the 4+ came out right at the bat.. Golden rule of patience comes in here..GTG research preach wait out about 7 to 10 hands at the beginning of a shoe to see how the shoe is currently running..Using averages can signal abnormalities and then choose ur bet selection(personally i would have whined if i missed that first streak)..Maybe a good play on the 2's would be The Pitboss 2's..But THE GOAL would be to pick up 3 in a row wins..If u can be able to score one two or three 3 in a row wins per shoe...apply Kilowatts 123 Parlay Martingale for Bomb wins..

[pitty1]

P
BBB
PP
BB
P
B
P
BBBBBBBB
PPP
B
PPPP
B
PPP
BB
P
BBBB
PP
BBBBB
PPP
BBBBB
PP
B
P
BBBBB
P
BBB
P
B
P
B
P
Here u got fifteen 1's...five 2's and ten more than 2's..the 1's hovered around avg.expectations..The 2's dropped below avg. and more than 2.s was above avg at 10..
So how about a oddball mech bets like 1 bet opposite..wait on a 2 and bet 3times it will not go beyond 4+?..Repeat

[ADulay]

P
BBB
PP.....

Last edited by pitty1; Today at 01:05 AM. Reason: I bet it won't look to good..

Pity1,

I'm not quite sure why these shoes are getting posted to the Maverick thread but the system has been crushing those shoes you've put up.

That last one was a +30, even for me which is unusual.

AD

[pitty1]

P
BB
PPP
BB
PPPPPPP
BBB
PPP
B
P
BB
PPPPPPPP
B
P
B
PP
BB
PPP
BBB
PPP
B
P
B
PPP
BB
P
BB
PPPPPP
We have eight 1's..10 below avg...seven 2's..slightly below avg..and ten 3+ slightly above avg.So maybe running the 1's with FL(streak jinxs) betting.. perhaps a 1 miss allowed to continue in "follow the last bet" mode.Mechanically would have served well with this shoe..but only because the 1's was way below avg.And thus allow to bomb with Kilowatts 123 parlay martingale...

[joshky]

We have some mix reactions to the Maverick way of play. What is of interests here is the different mm that it employs.

[Ellis]

Mike, it appears that some of your members do not take you seriously. Please remove John's post. I'm forwarding it to Keith Smith and he may lodge a formal complaint.

[joshky]

To the Maverick guys. What is the difference between the Maverick Ultimate and its predecessor?

[kadiddle]

It appears that Mark, the fellow who develped the Maverick system, has had a falling out on the paid forum. Something about being disrespected by those running the forum and he's going off on his own. So save your $50 if you were thinking of joining since they've apparently taken down or Mark has taken down all the Maverick System rules.

[joshky]

Oh, poor ol Ellis seem to have lost out on the Maverick and the popularity that goes with it. It had seemed to be the only strategy that works at Btc worth looking at.

[garnabby]

And so it went at the GG this past week.

Gambler's Glen Message Boards : Baccarat Message Board : What's Going On Here?!

Gambler's Glen Message Boards : General Discussion : Posts feared by Patrick, Spike, johno, and the other internet "nuts":

Why doesn't it surprise me?

[John]

If Maverick has bitten the dust, then console yourself with the switching rules of TB4L and OTB4L according to the Ellis school of logic.

OTB4L Mode Rule (1) states: When on OTB4L stay on OTB4L until you lose 3 bets in a row, and then switch to AD.

Question (1): After losing 3 bets in a row and having to switch to AD, do you start with betting repeats until a loss then switch to AD mode (similar to shoe start under AD mode), or go straight to AD mode (bet across or down from you last bet)?

OTB4L Mode Rule (2) states: In OTB4L mode, when you have a ZZ run of 3 (counted correctly), look at the 1’s. If 1’s are high go OTR, if 1’s are low wait for one more ZZ

[garnabby]

Obviously you missed my original humor or sarcasm in my first post where I said there was an "8 page manual" or a "200 page manual".

Missed nothing, i thought you were irked about something... now we know the reason.

[pitty1]

Yeah all the switching can get u in a snag..Reminds me of the ol" DUAL PATTERN BACCARAT" system..That ol man was a handful to deal with..but a little bit more kinder than mel gibson.

[pitty1]

Workin on my johnnie cash system..As with ALL systems..its important to grasp some kind of control of the dominate 1's and 2's..cause thats where the pattern for chop or streak play will throw u off..My pattern killer has always been the BPPB or the PBBP in 4 column plays..and when they are back to back..those 121 patterns can make u crazy man...and u can count on em showing up in every shoe..Since i brought up patterns...its really crazy how u can use them in all different ways.My conservative mechanical johnnie cash play looks quite promising for a quick cash n grab play..A innovative approach not yet explored or found on any posts...lets just look at the basics..
the last shoe posted..first three rows..It's P BB PPP..brake it down u got a single(chop) and 2 streaks( more than 1).Follow this pattern will repeat on the next three rows..What came out? A BB PPPPPPP BBB..u lost ur first bet because ur was betting for a chop..second row u bet for a streak..and win..quit ..more on this later as i am heading out to the casina now..good luck to all..

[briang57]

lets just look at the basics..
the last shoe posted..first three rows..It's P BB PPP..brake it down u got a single(chop) and 2 streaks( more than 1).Follow this pattern will repeat on the next three rows..What came out? A BB PPPPPPP BBB..u lost ur first bet because ur was betting for a chop..second row u bet for a streak..and win..quit ..more on this later as i am heading out to the casina now..good luck to all..

Pitty1,

If I understand the 'johnnie cash' play correctly, you won six bets and lost two bets (1st & last bet) in the first 14 hands of the shoe.

Is this something you could play at the start of every shoe to make a fast profit while you are waiting out a new shoe to spot a bias?

In other words, play 'johnnie cash' at the beginning of a shoe then after a win, analyze the pattern and go into a bet selection that it favors?

Thank you,
Brian

[pitty1]

Hi Biang57,It looks like u approached it at a "hands" level instead of tracking it on a Chop/Streak level.U maybe getting ahead of me on this(and it sounds good)I'm merely developing a mechanical approach to work around my weakness pattern as johno suggest.. and that is the 121..and continue to expand and compress this form of strategy like a accordion.If i were to play a strategy as such like dropping different bet selections in and out of a shoe like Hamlets" to be or not to be"..follow last bet vs opposite of last bet..TB4L vs OTB4L..OTR vs zig zag..2's or opposite 2's...ect..ect. i would first review the chop/streak pattern of a shoe..which has as much validity as waiting and looking for anything else to play on based on how the shoe is dare i say BIAS.I can go on hours about this but takes away time spent testing live.. so i'll drop in little chunks ..Right now ol johhnie cash conservative mechanical bets is holding up well for a win and get out..Follow last three rows with 1 bet risk per row to follow.

[pitty1]

Anybody who has played a bet swapping strategy such as "dual pattern baccarat" or "trendsetter" knows the difficulty of switching bet selection in a shoe..bunch of backtracking along with ur wins going south.Requires plenty of practice..Since remote viewing is a rare talent..all u got to work with is what point ur at when u must make judgment.a good mindframe is to develop a betting strategy around the dominate 1's and 2's in a way u can streak on them...
GTG's research suggest u always stop around 10 hands..review.. with a high probability the trend can continue..look at this shoe again.A good start to try and scrore well min.prog. on the 1zees and 2zees would be a follow bet allowing one loss for the follow to continue.
P
BB
PPP
BB
PPPPPPP..count back after10 hands..still looks good to follow
BBB
PPP...14 wins..6 loss which could have recovered with a 1 step neg.prog.
B
P..2 loss look back 10 hands.still looks good for a follow bet.
BB
PPPPPPPP..8 wins..1 loss
B
P..2 loss again look back 10 hands..still looks good for a follow bet.
B
PP......always start betting on new row
BB
PPP
B
P... 2 loss look back at 10 hands..still pretty even but a bit of a challenge.
B
PPP
BB
P
BB
PPPPPP ..could have made out well just with follow..(I would have stopped on the first string of wins)..but there was an opportunity to switch to another bet selecton. perhaps bet twice on each hand. Just a basic feel of being on alert for a bet change.Unfortunately all shoes are not like this..and if the losses started clumping... a wait or switch should be attempted.

[bacguy]

It appears that Mark, the fellow who develped the Maverick system, has had a falling out on the paid forum. Something about being disrespected by those running the forum and he's going off on his own. So save your $50 if you were thinking of joining since they've apparently taken down or Mark has taken down all the Maverick System rules.

kadiddle is right. The Maverick thread got so popular that the owners must have felt threatened. They even tried to discredit the creator saying he didn't know what he was talking about and all he did was use Ellis system. So they took down ALL of the the posts and threads regarding Maverick. They especially took down all of the testimonials that were put up by the other members who were winning with it. There were even testimonials of the winners on his public forum all praising Maverick. Ellis and Keith took them ALL down. Anyone who defended the creator on the forum, was also banned and kicked out. Now they claim to be creating their own "New" Maverick Manual.

Well, we shall see how long that takes. From what I've heard elsewhere, we shouldn't hold our breaths.

[Bryan]

kadiddle is right. The Maverick thread got so popular that the owners must have felt threatened. They even tried to discredit the creator saying he didn't know what he was talking about and all he did was use Ellis system. So they took down ALL of the the posts and threads regarding Maverick. They especially took down all of the testimonials that were put up by the other members who were winning with it. There were even testimonials of the winners on his public forum all praising Maverick. Ellis and Keith took them ALL down. Anyone who defended the creator on the forum, was also banned and kicked out. Now they claim to be creating their own "New" Maverick Manual.

Well, we shall see how long that takes. From what I've heard elsewhere, we shouldn't hold our breaths.

Interesting

Will be interested to hear from Ellis, why such drastic action? Seems like he disappear from this forum....

What about you, AD? Seem like a golden goose is being killed, isn't it?

[briang57]

Will be interested to hear from Ellis, why such drastic action? Seems like he disappear from this forum....

What about you, AD? Seem like a golden goose is being killed, isn't it?

"BIRDS OF A FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER"
or in this case
"SCAMMERS OF A FEATHER SCAM TOGETHER"

They all want a piece of that "$1,000.00 Maverick Pie"!

So much for sharing information on BTC. Hey Mark Maverick, why don't you bring the show over here? Post your shoes like you did with the clowns. Or will they threaten to sue you too? What goes around comes around.

[ADulay]

What about you, AD? Seem like a golden goose is being killed, isn't it?

Bryan,

Well, I'm still running Maverick as my primary play and still doing well with it. The author has gone "solo" but still remains a friend and we talk on Skype while playing online from time to time. There are several who continue to play Maverick with good results and will continue to do so until we find something better to replace it. I believe that's how all of us work with winning systems!

I believe those of us who have been around the gambling forums for several years have seen this happen before and it will happen again.

Am I concerned? Not really. Mark (the Maverick author) put together a really good plan for playing baccarat and he has elected to strike out on his own, apparently due to his perceived lack of support at the "home" forum and a slight clash of egos all around.

I wish him great luck in the future and he would be an asset no matter where he winds up.

AD

[pitty1]

In a way its good news the`author of the system has gone solo.The argument all along has been why pay ellis for someone else work.I'm sure if it's a doable strategy.. Mark will get the support and respect asked.The maverick has high interest here and will not go away until serious players have enough info to verify if it is a viable play and suit their taste.As for BTC banning members.. who supports the Maverick... It's really disappointing use of poor judgment.,most likly impact thier reputation for years come.

[briang57]

Mark (the Maverick author) put together a really good plan for playing baccarat and he has elected to strike out on his own
AD

C'mon Andy. Stop your bullshit. If Mark Mav is your friend then you got the same apology letter that everyone else did saying that he was banned. In his own words:

"After all the rukus on the forum, I am sad to say, but not surprised really, that Ellis and Keith have decided to close and lock the Maverick Thread. They have banned me from posting. I can't even edit any of my own prior postings."

That's far from electing to strike out on his own, Adulay and you know it.

Also from Mark:

"From what I've heard, Ellis is now going to write a "new maverick manual" thats supposed to be more simple, claiming Maverick was too complicated."

What a hypocrite Ellis and Keith are. They call others thieves but when it suits their needs they steal from their clients who created interest and revenue for their website.

I hope this is a wake up call for anyone paying $50 a month or more for a lifetime membership. Maybe Mike can ban these con artist losers from here like they did to Mark Mav at BeTakenbyClowns.con