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    Quote Originally Posted by Bud View Post
    How about it....anybody going to post the Maverick System?????
    I do not think it is right to upload this system on this free forum. The man who created the Maverick system should be responsible for doing so. He is not trying to sell the system. He came up with it, posted it, and shared it with all of the members of BTC. He is a very nice man who has spent a lot of time over-there teaching people how to play it. He has even helped people win with it at the baccarat tables. I have the system and I would never think about putting it on another forum. It is a disgrace and a slap in the face to the man who worked so hard.
    Anybody who posts this system for free here is sinking to an all time low. Let the creator decide what he wants to do. Don't be a pathetic piece of shit. If any of you want the system that bad then pay the 50 bucks to join the forum. If you don't have the 50 bucks then you shouldn't be gambling anyway.

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    I'm not a member of BTC and I got it. Systems are traded all over the net and a lot of people lose playing it. So don't talk about anyone having rights to anything you pathetic piece of shit John.

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    Quote Originally Posted by briang57 View Post
    I'm not a member of BTC and I got it. Systems are traded all over the net and a lot of people lose playing it. So don't talk about anyone having rights to anything you pathetic piece of shit John.
    Wow Brian, no class.

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    why u guys jumpin all over brian? Whats going to happen when johno gets it?
    Last edited by pitty1; 07-09-2010 at 12:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by briang57 View Post
    I'm not a member of BTC and I got it. Systems are traded all over the net and a lot of people lose playing it. So don't talk about anyone having rights to anything you pathetic piece of shit John.
    pathetic? look in the mirror you fucking retard. You want to post a system that you have no right to post. Did you develop the system? Hell no. You are wrong and you know it. That is why you are being so defensive in your post.

    This system takes a lot of practice and a fair amount of help from the author or other people who understand it. Judging from your posts you don't seem to have the brain capacity needed to master this system. And people will lose with it if they don't understand what they are doing.. that is a given for any system. I own this system. I was a member of btc. I have read about people losing and did not understand the system. the creator stepped in and showed them the right way and they won. Some people just never get it and should not be playing it. I am talking from what I experienced.

    Do you really think that the btc crew is going to step in to help out all of the people who you give the system to? You are setting people up to fail..to think they understand a system that is very complex which will result in them losing lots of money. I hope you are happy setting people up to lose. do you even realize how many compulsive gamblers come onto this forum? Put a system into their hands that they think they understand and watch what happens. I have read about people going to the casino after a week of learning this system and losing. No shit they are going to lose...it takes a ton of practice...practice that many people here will not put in, especially if they do not have the tools to win that btc provides them with. Nobody is going to know what RD1 is, nobody is going to know how the sap counts work..everyone will be clueless as to the MM aspects of playing a system like this. And how are you going to explain F2/F3 to them? It is not all in the manual.
    There is a reason why it costs money to join that forum. You have to have money to play the game. You are making a big mistake if you post this system in a public forum..the sad thing is that you know it. Do what you want but just realize that if you do post the system you really are being the pathetic piece of shit here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pitty1 View Post
    why u guys jumpin all over brian? Whats going to happen when johno gets it?
    it ends up on every site on the internet and people play a system that they don't understand and lose a lot of money. $50 a month is not that bad especially for all that you can learn on that site. and as i said, if people don't have the 50 per month then why gamble?

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    When you put a system on a public forum like BTC it is no longer private. Did you make it past 5th grade idiot? I'm sure you don't know about Gambling Systems Presented by YMM but anyone else who has half a brain can go there and get these "sacred" systems for as low as $2. So, John1234 (I'm glad you can count to 4) or did your mother pick that user name for you moron? Now who's the fucking retard you asshole?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bacguy View Post
    Wow Brian, no class.
    Coming from you that's a compliment! Scumbag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by briang57 View Post
    Now who's the fucking retard you asshole?
    You are. BTC is still a private site and he is still the creator of the system..not you, not anybody.

    I'm done with you. All you do is insult. You never even answered to how you are going to help all of those people that you want to share this system with learn it the right away and not lose money. I guess you don't have an answer because you must not know how to play the system. All you could think to do was attempt to insult me, a true sign of someone who is clueless.


    So, John1234 (I'm glad you can count to 4) or did your mother pick that user name for you moron? Now who's the fucking retard you asshole?
    wait a second braing57..your user-name goes up to 57. Your user-name is not that much more creative than mine.


    you obviously have no idea what to say to my previous post so you throw out insults. True sign of a loser. I'm done with this loser, I suggest that everybody else stays away from him.

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    I'm sure you don't know about Gambling Systems Presented by YMM but anyone else who has half a brain can go there and get these "sacred" systems for as low as $2.
    Mike this sounds like an Advertisement to me!!!
    Last edited by John1234; 07-09-2010 at 01:59 PM.

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    Well I seriously doubt anyone has an up to date version of Maverick. Hell, the system is still evolving and it has never been posted on a public forum. It is brand new and official rules have yet to be released. I know I don't have it. How could you?

    I recall a while back when somebody posted a system on THIS forum that was supposed to be from our private forum but it was a completely different system from our public forum.

    Anyone with an early version of Maverick WOULD in fact lose their shirt because the creator was running his progs too high.

    The crook doesn't know or care whether he has the right system or latest version as long as he can make a buck by stealing. He couldn't care less whether you win or lose.

    Anyone stealing a system or knowingly buying a stolen system deserves to lose anyway. Whether on the internet or the underground press a crook is a crook and a low life piece of shit in my book that gets exactly what he deserves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John1234 View Post
    "I'm done with you."
    Good riddance. You'll never get it. This site is supposed to be about sharing information. Not keeping it a secret. I don't sell anything but rather give it to someone who wants it. To avoid idiots like J-O-H-N-1-2-3-4 and bacguy, from now on if anyone wants this system, PM your request to me. I will email it to you for FREE!

    John, go back to "Bring in The Clowns" please.

    P.S. '57 was the year I was born. What is 1234? The school grades you completed?

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    P.S. '57 was the year I was born.
    glad to hear it. That means you will be dead by the time I reach your age. Glad to see that you won't be around too much longer to steal and post other people's work.

    You would think a 57 your old would have more dignity. Damn. What a waste of all those years.

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    Don't bet on it loser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by briang57 View Post
    Don't bet on it loser.
    haha I would bet my life on it. unless you plan on making it beyond your 70s which you could do, but then again the US is somewhere around 38 in the world life expectancy rankings...Shit you should stop wasting your time gambling and get your affairs in order!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellis View Post
    a crook is a crook
    and you charge how much per month for your garbage? $50 per member.
    So your the EXPERT CROOK!!!

    I bet you love when all your little "inventors" keep coming out with version after version. Keeps the money rolling in doesn't it Crookie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John1234 View Post
    haha I would bet my life on it. unless you plan on making it beyond your 70s which you could do, but then again the US is somewhere around 38 in the world life expectancy rankings...Shit you should stop wasting your time gambling and get your affairs in order!
    Is that like the affair your mommy had around the time you were born? Who's your daddy?

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    wow you are an immature 53 year old. Nothing you are saying makes any sense now. You must be losing your mind already. I am having fun reading all of your pathetic responses. haha. Keep up the good work.

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    Is there a moderator anywhere in this forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John1234 View Post
    Nothing you are saying makes any sense
    I don't expect you to understand anything 1-2-3-4.

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    hhahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by briang57 View Post

    Good riddance. You'll never get it. This site is supposed to be about sharing information. Not keeping it a secret. I don't sell anything but rather give it to someone who wants it. To avoid idiots like J-O-H-N-1-2-3-4 and bacguy, from now on if anyone wants this system, PM your request to me. I will email it to you for FREE!

    John, go back to "Bring in The Clowns" please.

    P.S. '57 was the year I was born. What is 1234? The school grades you completed?
    Brian, It's for Mike to say but, yes this site may be about sharing public information but I don't think its about sharing stolen information. At least I hope not.

    Besides, playing an early version of Maverick would be suicidal. You would be causing fellow players to lose big time. We haven't even got to the cash mgt phase yet and major changes were made. Others are pending. Trust me, I know. Maverick is still not ready for release and won't be for quite some time. AD here is playing his own version as I'm sure he'll tell you if you ask. It's probably nothing like the version you managed to get your hands on. Here's the thing, You got scammed, but not by us.
    Last edited by Ellis; 07-09-2010 at 04:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSetAim View Post
    Is there a moderator anywhere in this forum?
    Yes. No copyright infringement please unless you've received permission from the creator.

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    What i gather now is that the Maverik started out as a total losing system..and yet can be called a winner now only if u play it right by means of controlling ur loss...and now remains a winning system only if u know how to stop betting when ur losing..and if u lose playing it now with the update version ...it's because u are not playing it right..and maverik post for free on a private fourm only called so because members pay a forum owner 50 bucks to call it so...which is not so private as long as u give 50 bucks a month to the king..all said in one breath..welp i'm off to play and good luck to all free forum members...as well as the free posters who pay the king his 50 bucks..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Yes. No copyright infringement please unless you've received permission from the creator.
    Hi Mike,

    I traded out of curiosity for a "Maverick" manual. It has no copyright notice attached to it. When the topic came up here I replied that I had it and said that it was too big of a file to post. I won't post anything on your forum. On the other hand if someone PM's me with their Email address,that's a different story.

    I never told anyone this was the latest greatest version of it. If it is anything like Ellis's crooked pay per view for idiots, it is a failed system. There is sure to be 23 versions that fail and keep the suckers coming back to pay him $50 every month. Don't they know they are being scammed?

    Brian

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    Quote Originally Posted by pitty1 View Post
    What i gather now is that the Maverik started out as a total losing system..and yet can be called a winner now only if u play it right by means of controlling ur loss...and now remains a winning system only if u know how to stop betting when ur losing..and if u lose playing it now with the update version ...it's because u are not playing it right..and maverik post for free on a private fourm only called so because members pay a forum owner 50 bucks to call it so...which is not so private as long as u give 50 bucks a month to the king..all said in one breath..welp i'm off to play and good luck to all free forum members...as well as the free posters who pay the king his 50 bucks..
    Pitty, you gather wrong as usual. Systems start out as an idea. In this case an idea from a member. A basic premise. Something like what happens if you blend these three base systems together and trigger them with an SAP count? The originator called this Maverick and drew up basic rules of play. That is probably what got stolen. I reply, those are three chop systems - You need a streak system. A few hundred test shoes proved me right. Ok lets try these 4 systems which later became 5 then back to 4 but a different 4. By now thousands of shoes had been played and the thing evolved into a workable system VERY recently. But the betting wasn't right. Too steep. It didn't follow our normal guide lines. Hundreds of shoes later and after 6 or 7 sets of rules some of the guys got it working quite well. But probably no two of them were playing it alike because no official rules have yet been written. I proposed a major modification to the switch signals just yesterday. Some of the guys were using 3 losses, some 4, and some two. Yes, some of the guys were testing in casino and some did very well. But it is highly likely that none of them were playing it exactly the same way. It looks extremely good but it is still a work in progress. Official rules and recommended cash mgt are still in the offing.

    The moral of this story is if you are going to steal something from us have the brains to wait until we release it. All he stole was an unfinished experiment. I don't have any idea as to which of the 6 or 7 sets of rules he stole or if he made up his own but I know that they will have little resemblance to the final and official rules. But I'm sure he doesn't care. The name Maverick is all he needed and that was posted on public forums. He may well have put his own rules to it. That's what the last crook did. So if you buy it, play it at your own peril.

    Another point is that even the Maverick rules would do you no good without the component system rules. That's a whole lot of rules he would have had to steal from various parts of our private forum. They have never been posted publicly.

    I'm guessing he just made up his own rules and is depending on buyer greed, gullibility and stupidity. All the guys that lost money got exactly what they deserved. They are just as guilty as the original crook but a whole lot more stupid. Don't buy obviously stolen merchandise from crooks and then complain about the quality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by briang57 View Post
    I'm not a member of BTC and I got it.
    Briang57,

    Hmm, well there's your first lie in this travesty. You ARE a member there and I've seen you in public and private threads.

    Why would you want to lie right at the start??

    Nobody traded you for this file, you outright stole it from the private area.

    I'm sure your mom would be proud.

    AD

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    Not quite Andy. The file was traded to me three days ago. I am not a member there and I don't know if the trader was either. Not to worry. I deleted the file as it has become more trouble than it is worth. As Ellis said the system is not even completed yet. Didn't you tell me you had an 8-page manual and 200 pages of threads and notes? Hmmm...Maybe someone you sold or gave it to put it out there. If it is not completed yet then how did you get a copy of it? Maybe you inadvertantly released it. Too bad.

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    ELLIS so far the only people who lose playing this maverik are ur own forum players and u say they deserve it? BAD KING...Just ur essay on maverik history proves its a strategy that lose over and over again and the only way to make it work is with Money management...Back to square one.. damn near any strategy could win if u control ur loss.Ellsi calling people crooks is the same as claiming rivers flow upstream.
    Last edited by pitty1; 07-10-2010 at 11:44 AM. Reason: Misspelled ellis

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    Quote Originally Posted by briang57 View Post
    Not quite Andy. The file was traded to me three days ago. I am not a member there and I don't know if the trader was either. Not to worry. I deleted the file as it has become more trouble than it is worth. As Ellis said the system is not even completed yet. Didn't you tell me you had an 8-page manual and 200 pages of threads and notes? Hmmm...Maybe someone you sold or gave it to put it out there. If it is not completed yet then how did you get a copy of it? Maybe you inadvertantly released it. Too bad.
    Briang57,

    Obviously you missed my original humor or sarcasm in my first post where I said there was an "8 page manual" or a "200 page manual". I was talking about the 8 message thread on Maverick that explains it completely as originally written and then the 200 messages of guys who were running it and posting up score sheets, worksheets, questions and answers.

    There is no "manual" to speak of.

    Here's hoping everyone has learned a lesson here. Let's play the game and take money out of the casino. If you're clever enough and smart enough to build a winning system and elect to share it, then by all means do so.

    If you have to resort to giving away someone else's work, well that's what your conscience is for I guess.

    AD (yes, I play Maverick and win with it)

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