2 naturals in a row: Go the other way until you win

[thegeorgiahurricane]

Garnabby--you need to get your facts straight. Tried to remain open-minded towards you, but you really are pretty much an idiot. You dont play baccarat apparently--so why do you bother with this forum? You offer NOTHING. You must have no life.

[Ellis]

A 4 year Math graduate student would not have to look up "Calculus" for spelling and meaning. But only a mental defective would post a bogus degree. Some hang their hat on their degree. Others use it to make something of their lives.

[BIG816]

Bac 1 two NP jump.... Bac 2 two NB stick.. i wouldnt bet that much on a jump but lately ive seen two naturals in a row jump to the other side with another natural and jumps back

looks like player did 321 and 123 and banker wants to do 321 on both boards

[pitty1]

Way cool picture man..Say u looking for a sequence of 123 or a reverse 321 in that order to play on? thanks..

[wonSnoJ]

At least daytrader's ideas are a refreshing change from "net betting"; "casino orchestration", whatever that is; and free-stuff strategies which "aren't as good as the paid-for stuff, but still work"... even though no one has ever used any of those to make a quick $30,000 at $30,000 Betting System Challenge , lol.

I just checked that website out.... it's pretty rediculous that the guy runs a billion hands for the challenge which if you ask me gives him more of a favor.

I personally think if you ran a couple simulations on baccarat you might get lucky and win the challenge, then again it's a billion hands.

[daytrader]

********UPDATE***********

This simple strategy has been very effective...

I will explain a little better. You only care about naturals when its the 1st player or 1st banker. NOT when its in the middle of a run...For example:

BBB
PPPPPP
BBB(8)B(8)You do not bet against it here because its in the middle of a run when it happened.

Here is what you look for:
BBBB
PPPPP
B(9)B(8)Here is where you bet on player!

Hopefully this explains it a little better.,

Its hard to backtest because #1, you need to know the scores of every hand and #2, you need to know if its a natural or not. Only the hardcore players have this info saved!

I play at a minimum 25 dollar table and my minimum bet is 50 dollars upto 600-700 per hand.....

[pitty1]

Thanks Daytrader..i'll keep a eye on it..

[garnabby]

PS Where is my friend Ellis all of a sudden - he sick or something or did he decide to finally teach Baccarat on his site?

Hey Archer,

Who needs sillE, with ADulang Dulang filling in? Although also AD's blabbering is becoming a bit stale on its own.

Anyway, AD, let's just start with your first post over, when you first came on the baccarat-scene, at the reference-board which i admin: the guy posts up (supposedly) two consecutive shoes to show where one of the methods there had broken down in practice, and then goes on to say that thankfully (on a whim he had played) one of sillE's long now-discarded-as-useless methods instead. Problem was, and it was obvious from then, the two score-cards were of different hand-writing style.

Enough said, unless sillE-in-training demands to see the proof here, as he did over at the old VLS.

I deal in the evidence, not the odd "screen-shot" in non-real time.

[PoFoMoFo]

i gave to try it..

[vroess]

Interesting theory and always worth a try when it's working. Just got back from AC and saw on 8/26/2010 several streaks (individually) in various shoes throughout the same day containing 3-5 naturals in a row. Each tim near the end of the shoe - approx. 50 hands in.

I'm a noob so be gentle

Just started reading this thread today so I may be writing something already discussed elsewhere. One thing I have noticed over the last six months is that shoes appear to be similar on each day. One day it was a player or banker streaks of 6-9 within the 1st 20 hands. The next it was the 3-5 all natural player or banker streak.

Same thing happened a month earlier in AC with streaks in 1st 20 hands on one day, 3-2-1 regression the next, and 1-2-3 progressions the following day.

Also noticed, the streaks last month were followed by a single opposing winner. This week the streak was followed by 2.

last month:

ppppp
b
p

this month:

ppppp
bb
p

Not guaranteed but about 70-80% of the time.

Not going to post any thoughts on this as mine are just beginner ideas/experiences and will continue to study until I have something to back it up with or have more similar/ongoing/regular experiences that can be documented and be worthy of noting.

In any case, thanks for all of your ideas and the forum in helping me better my game!

V

NOTE: shoes were at various tables over 12-15 hours of play/watching

[zachster]

in my opinion, if two naturals can come up in the middle if a streak, then most certainly it can also come up at the start of it...

[green8]

If two naturals come up, there is a streak man! Keep on riding the streak until it stops. NEVER bet against a streak. Thats my opinion, based on my years of playing!

[doramider7]

the total of first 2 cards dealt (to either P or B or both) which equals to 8 or 9...we call such card 'Natural'. Natural card means high card & no 3rd card is needed.

thank you first. is there any logical explanation for this strategy?

[pitty1]

U will see naturals most often in a shoe..sometimes up to half a shoe..some people trigger of em..they get notable mentions on the toteboard.Whats the logic with utube ps3 game downloads have to do with Bac?

[tuasbird]

thank you first. is there any logical explanation for this strategy?

well well dora, daytrader's thread so you probably should divert your ques to him. m here jus explaining what 'natural' means in my land-based casino context

gd day!