The Goal is Scamming Again...

[Thegoal]

Fucking BULLSHIT. He has balls, as you put it, to post all over the internet that you stole $500 of his money and that you wouldn't honor your money back guarantee. Now only after you been made to look like the world's worst piece of shit scammer AGAIN, have you changed your tune...now your impressed by him....lmao

Your original response was that he was crazy and that he didn't qualify for your worthless money back guarantee...

You know what? We've all just about had about enough of your crap.

please, just go fuck yourself.

Regardless of what he posts, him and I communicate regularly. He's got more balls than any of you. Trust me.

[vbangle]

Regardless of what he posts, him and I communicate regularly. He's got more balls than any of you. Trust me.

He doesn't want to "communicate regularly" with you, you idiot.

Give the man his money back.

[John1234]

Has anybody who has played or seen the Goal's system actually loss big with it? Besides the minor few unit losing shoes, has anybody had a huge drawdown. I do remember him saying that he does have losing shoes. He also stated that his team looks for the shoe that best fits his system, meaning that there are poor shoes. Then if there are poor shoes, I doubt he beat the game, however, only a few unit loss is not bad at all if the system is consistent. I"m not questing anything other then if anybody has seen his system preform terrible. Maybe this guy has some insight that he can provide the entire forum with???

[vbangle]

Has anybody who has played or seen the Goal's system actually loss big with it? Besides the minor few unit losing shoes, has anybody had a huge drawdown. I do remember him saying that he does have losing shoes. He also stated that his team looks for the shoe that best fits his system, meaning that there are poor shoes. Then if there are poor shoes, I doubt he beat the game, however, only a few unit loss is not bad at all if the system is consistent. I"m not questing anything other then if anybody has seen his system preform terrible. Maybe this guy has some insight that he can provide the entire forum with???

John, be careful defending someone like this guy...his stink will end up rubbing off on you.

[John1234]

John, be careful defending someone like this guy...his stink will end up rubbing off on you.

Thanks, I'm not defending..I'm just trying to figure out if anybody has had a lot of losing sessions. I have not seen too much talk of that.

[vbangle]

Thanks, I'm not defending..I'm just trying to figure out if anybody has had a lot of losing sessions. I have not seen too much talk of that.

Well all you have to do is read this post among others. Scambuster lost. Didn't even win through 20 shoes. Wanted his money back. Got the run around.

Daytrader lost, not big but lost....never heard back from the goal.

Are you starting to see a pattern here?

Of course The Goal is full of shit. He came on here saying he wasn't selling a system only to find out he does sell his system. Of course not on this forum. Why? Because this forum has already shown the light of truth on this parasite and ruined his plans.

[pitty1]

Why don't u give him $500 or a grand or prove ur trust with 10 grands and find out urself...then please share results..He won't post a BOMB shoe.

[AZJeff]

This is shame if the goal does not give his money back to him.
I believe he did say he would give it back to him in an ealier post he made.
This just goes to show that people should never send money or give money to anyone that is not running a legitmate business. Even then people should do enough research about that business to verify they are a legitmate business. Just my opinion. I am not criticizing anyone in this post just passing on information that people should not take other peope's word for it when it comes to people stating certain things.

Regards,
Jeff

[John1234]

Of course The Goal is full of shit. He came on here saying he wasn't selling a system only to find out he does sell his system. Of course not on this forum. Why? Because this forum has already shown the light of truth on this parasite and ruined his plans.

what I don't get is why come onto a forum and say that you are not selling a system them sell it on craigs list? I can't figure it out. It would have made more sense to just say that he was selling the system..I think. what does he get out of coming onto this forum and making a claim that he won't back up?

This makes no sense to me. The part that I am suspicious about is that I have never seen a team of players down in AC going from table to table in the fashion that he is talking about. I have hard of something like this in cheating rings where they have groups of players come in and out on the table but I have never seen something like what the Goal is Describing at the very casinos that he claims to play at. I asked him what casinos he plays at in AC or if he ever plans to play in Delaware and he didn't respond. Maybe he doesn't want me seeing what doesn't seem to exist.

[John1234]

Why don't u give him $500 or a grand or prove ur trust with 10 grands and find out urself...then please share results..He won't post a BOMB shoe.

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there it is for you.... Until we have further information

[vbangle]

what I don't get is why come onto a forum and say that you are not selling a system them sell it on craigs list? I can't figure it out. It would have made more sense to just say that he was selling the system..I think. what does he get out of coming onto this forum and making a claim that he won't back up?

This makes no sense to me.

I know John. The man is clearly out of his mind.

He's crazy. His cheese has slid off his cracker.

At first he thought he was being really smart and coy, he would bait people. He'd post that he had a awesome new system that never failed. But if anybody should ask him about it he'd be very fugue about it....playing hard to get as it were.

I think he thought maybe he could get more customers that way...who knows. Whatever the case was, now that he has been completely discredited here he has moved on to greener more gullible pastures.

[bhumibol]

Anyway, only came back here to read my pms, from those responding to my team offer.

Madness I tell ya, madness. Anyway, last words....there is a way to beat baccarat! Don't give up.

And, please, for the love of god and your brain...don't believe anything that is said without PROOF. C'mon people, we're not in the days of the salem witch trials. Seriously.

Well, Mr. Steele, do you remember me? After I paid for your round trip plane ticket and booked a hotel here and waited on you at the airport, you never showed up? You did not even bother to tell me that you were not coming as you promised. I spent over $700 on the ticket and you not only showing up, you wanted me to send you $1,000 after you already fucked me up.

I am really pissed to see that you not only lied to me, but to other nice people as well.

[steve6969]

for the love of god when will people stop dealing with this motherfucker

[Thegoal]

Well, Mr. Steele, do you remember me? After I paid for your round trip plane ticket and booked a hotel here and waited on you at the airport, you never showed up? You did not even bother to tell me that you were not coming as you promised. I spent over $700 on the ticket and you not only showing up, you wanted me to send you $1,000 after you already fucked me up.

I am really pissed to see that you not only lied to me, but to other nice people as well.

You sent me $1000? Whoever you are....did you send me any money?

IF you were not scammed by me out of money, what was the point of posting here? To join the parade?

You MUST be bond. The guy I worked with years ago....years ago. From Seattle. Dude, I never scammed you out of any money. We were doing something different back then, yet you post that I requested you to send me $1000 online? Sure,...I understand your anger, with the loss of your business and your wife. I'm not on here throwing that in your face...calling you a loser and all kinds of LOW class statements.

No integrity. NO class!

[Thegoal]

for the love of god when will people stop dealing with this motherfucker

What a motherfucker and a scammer.

Big words....behind a computer screen of course.

[Thegoal]

what I don't get is why come onto a forum and say that you are not selling a system them sell it on craigs list? I can't figure it out. It would have made more sense to just say that he was selling the system..I think. what does he get out of coming onto this forum and making a claim that he won't back up?

This makes no sense to me. The part that I am suspicious about is that I have never seen a team of players down in AC going from table to table in the fashion that he is talking about. I have hard of something like this in cheating rings where they have groups of players come in and out on the table but I have never seen something like what the Goal is Describing at the very casinos that he claims to play at. I asked him what casinos he plays at in AC or if he ever plans to play in Delaware and he didn't respond. Maybe he doesn't want me seeing what doesn't seem to exist.

Of course you never seen that team in AC. That team is in foxwoods. Using that system (looking for a run of player or banker and betting against it) in AC, where there are barely any tables, is useless. Foxwoods has a baccarat pit with over 20 tables, all at your disposal. That is why, these group of heavy hitting asians, I think like 4-5 of them, do this at foxwoods.

I sold the system on craigslist to 3 people, who were refunded and became a part of my team. It was a test. That guy that posted I scammed him all over the place and a picture of me? Was just not very patient. And simply wanted his $500 back and nothing to do with the team. Once he was refunded, obviously, he took everything down. In any case, I did not come HERE to sell anything.

Notice no one else posted they were "scammed". At least not with any proof.

I don't play in delaware, and I RARELY play in AC....as I described above...AC is lacking in baccarat table volume. Especially if you have an in and out, or "swarm" type of system. There is just NOT enough tables to win 2 units, and then jump on to the next shoe that is going. Foxwoods and mohegan sun make this fairly easy to do, due to their table volume.

[vbangle]

What a motherfucker and a scammer.

Big words....behind a computer screen of course.

Of course its behind a computer screen you idiot, this is a forum on the internet, not bunch of guys at their local watering hole....

DIPSHIT.

And yes, with every new victim of your scams that tells about their ordeal, you become even a bigger douche bag than we all thought you were.

One day Karma will catch up with you, just wait.

[Thegoal]

Of course its behind a computer screen you idiot, this is a forum on the internet, not bunch of guys at their local watering hole....

DIPSHIT.

And yes, with every new victim of your scams that tells about their ordeal, you become even a bigger douche bag than we all thought you were.

One day Karma will catch up with you, just wait.

Yeah...true. Problem is, he wouldn't say half of what he says here, face to face. True about most.

And, scam? What scam? How much did I make from it?

Oh...that's right, NOTHING. lol ....until proven differently. Yes, Karma will catch up to me, and reward me for not being a caveman with no class, and no reason.

[ScamExposer]

Hasaan Steel (The Goal) has been charged by the CFTC for Commodities Pool Fraud.
He scammed 1 milion out of 28 investors. He is going away for a long time!

Check theses links about him out:

http://www.cftc.gov/PressRoom/PressReleases/pr5982-11.html

http://www.hedgeweek.com/2011/02/10/106883/cftc-charges-hasaan-r-steel-commodity-pool-fraud

http://www.investmentfraudtimes.com/options/4122.html

Looks like his little baccarat scam and other gambling frauds were just chump change compared to this.

[ScamExposer]

Hasaan Steel (The Goal) has been charged by the CFTC for Commodities Pool Fraud.
He scammed 1 milion out of 28 investors. He is going away for a long time!

Check theses links about him out:

http://www.cftc.gov/PressRoom/PressReleases/pr5982-11.html

http://www.hedgeweek.com/2011/02/10/106883/cftc-charges-hasaan-r-steel-commodity-pool-fraud

http://www.investmentfraudtimes.com/options/4122.html

Looks like his little baccarat scam and other gambling frauds were just chump change compared to this.

[pitty1]

Hasaan Steel (The Goal) has been charged by the CFTC for Commodities Pool Fraud.
He scammed 1 milion out of 28 investors. He is going away for a long time!

Check theses links about him out:

http://www.cftc.gov/PressRoom/PressReleases/pr5982-11.html

http://www.hedgeweek.com/2011/02/10/106883/cftc-charges-hasaan-r-steel-commodity-pool-fraud

http://www.investmentfraudtimes.com/options/4122.html

Looks like his little baccarat scam and other gambling frauds were just chump change compared to this.

Bet he won't have a problem supplementing his full protein diet in prison..

[JimmyS1985]

I didnt know gamblers could sell betting systems, let alone people would actually buy into them. Ill sell everyone a system for $50, its called flat $5 a hand betting. You will get the most time at the baccarat table doing this system more than any other system :P

[punvit]

It is quite a "shocked" story that one of the member, "Thegoal" got caught and will be in jail for a long time.

Hopefully, we will not see anyone else on this forum, ends up like him.

[JimmyS1985]

I had a good upbringing by parents with high morals and values, and they generally do not go to casino's unless were absolutely bored and I ask mom to come with me.

I am highly skeptical of betting systems and they generally disapprove of me going to the casino too often and I can not blame them because we both know their is a house edge on every game but for counting cards at BJ, and even then it is very slight.

They went to Las Vegas in 1990, and spent a grand total of $5 on nickel slots. They have to be the lowest of low-rollers that have ever graced this earth, and brought me up to be someone, who if they are going to a casino, to be a low-roller as well. needless to say the pitbosses and dealers dont have a lot of respect for us non-tipping, non-drink buying low-rollers, but Im there to make my measly bankroll last than risk becoming a big loser. My best compliment to the people at the casino is "I had fun"

edit: Actually I take that back, my grandparents who are miraculously still alive, NEVER gamble. I think my Grandpa was in Monte Carlo on vacation in France and put a Franc in a slot machine and it gave him 5 Franc's in 1967. He walked out, officially for the rest of his life, a winner from the casino, no matter how small it was.

[ScamExposer]

It is quite a "shocked" story that one of the member, "Thegoal" got caught and will be in jail for a long time.

Hopefully, we will not see anyone else on this forum, ends up like him.

Hopefully we WILL see all the SCAMMERS that are discussed on this forum end up like him.

[punvit]

Hopefully we WILL see all the SCAMMERS that are discussed on this forum end up like him.

Yes, if they're stupid enough and still want to SCAM people.

[ScamExposer]

Yes, if they're stupid enough and still want to SCAM people.

Absolutely Pundit. Absolutely.

[Egalite]

Hopefully we WILL see all the SCAMMERS that are discussed on this forum end up like him.

Unfortunately, if I read the story correct, he didn't go to jail or end up in court due to him ripping off gamblers, wasn't it something to do with the Finance industry.

There are NEW Laws coming into play for the UK soon, were you can no longer post "whatever you like, because it is the internet", it is my understanding scammers like Malcorp with his Sniper crap will fall foul of the New Laws, I suppose Mark Howie might have to tread carefully also. Izak Matatya would break it straight away.

You're doing us all a good service ScamExposer, keep getting the word out, maybe we can put 70~80% of these VERMIN out of business.

[ScamExposer]

Unfortunately, if I read the story correct, he didn't go to jail or end up in court due to him ripping off gamblers, wasn't it something to do with the Finance industry.

There are NEW Laws coming into play for the UK soon, were you can no longer post "whatever you like, because it is the internet", it is my understanding scammers like Malcorp with his Sniper crap will fall foul of the New Laws, I suppose Mark Howie might have to tread carefully also. Izak Matatya would break it straight away.

You're doing us all a good service ScamExposer, keep getting the word out, maybe we can put 70~80% of these VERMIN out of business.

Thanks very much Egalite. Let's keep the scammers hungry!