Thread: Beat The Casino - Daily Basis

Hi Guys,

This is my first post here and Iam going to share you my experience in beating the casino for daily basis!

Before that, let's analyse :

The nemesis of baccarat is not patterns or systems or whateva but is yourself. I want to ask you a question, if you arrive at casino and you play and win couple of hundreds in just 5-10 minutes, can you walk away?? The answer is yes but not in the real circumstance. I bet 99% will keep playing. Wanna bet?

You will say to yourself, what??? I just arrived and now go home?? Come on! Let's have a little fun. Yes, you're correct, a little fun towards disaster.

Iam a pro. I was a blackjack card counter. But when atlantic city changed their rules : 6 to 5, hit on soft 17, and so on, I can't beat blackjack. Then I studied the odds. The best game in casinos, nowadays, will be BACCARAT. I fell in love...

Here is my story...

I have been playing for 4 years ( excluding Blackjack ). I lose about $100k USD for the first 2 years ( I hate casinos ). Now, I earn $100 a day without a fail for, now, 26 months straight!!! I repeat, without a fail. How?

Listen guys, I don't believe any systems. there is no holy grail. Let's take a look Maverick ( Elis's forum ). They guy claims to make $1K a day. completely bullshit. If yes, people don't need to work and casinos will bankrupt. 1K a day? 30K a month. How about if he has 10 students? totally bullshit. Iam not underestimate his system, infact, his system is a good one, but if he says holy grail, 1K a day, well, please manage my money, I will give u 90%, I'll take 10%. Iam not greedy. How bout that?
Not only Maverick, but all systems. NO HOLY GRAIL!

Then how I manage to earn $100 a day??
my first 2 years on baccarat, I set my target to $3K a day. Crazy huh? It is true that on given situations, gamblers can win so big. I managed to turn $200 to $50K, $1000 to $40K, $200 to $10K, etc. But unfortunately, I lose it all. I Witnessed with my own eyes, a vietnamese youngster, turned $2k to $200K in 1 day. Can you imagine that?

The question here, not how big can you win but Can you "really" win?? Every gamblers that I know, they did win lots, but unfortunately, gave the money back to the casino. It's only a matter of time. Trust me.

Baccarat had destroyed my life and people's life too. I used to say to myself before i went to casinos. "I only take $200, that's it". After I arrived, I got $200 in just 40 minutes then I said to myself, "how bout a little more profit, $100 more. More and More then I lose it all. I believe all of you experience the same thing. That is just one of my experiences.

Now, here is the secret. I believe it's easy to achieve only 1 unit in baccarat. 1 UNIT! Not more. you will easily achieve that. 99%! 1% is a super duper bad luck. That's what I do. 1 unit and go home! No need to have fun at the devil's house. You will die!

I collected $25 daily for 6 months ( for practise ) and it went smooth. Then I raised my betting size but still 1 unit a day.

what system am i using? I dont use specific system. sometimes I use system, Sometimes just follow people who is hot, sometimes just by looking of the patterns.

my target is 1 unit a day. So, for example, If i come, sit then first hand i bet on banker and win, then stop, go home. How bout if i lose that hand? I will keep playing until i produce 1 unit.

So, I finally beat the nemesis, my greedy, myself. Not the patterns or the systems or bla bla bla. HIt and run. play safe. I don't care if people win big in 1 day, the house will take its share. wanna bet?

I believe if you just set your target for only 1 unit, your chance will be much better.

Please remember, the longer you play, you will be dead ASAP! it was a funny thing when my casino host suddenly came to me and said, "Hey, how many nights do you want?" I said to myself, what??? I didnt even ask for room. what's the point then? Casino will very happy if you play long. that's why they give u free comps, free meals, bla bla bla.

So guys, remember what I said. you are against the devil who is, unfortunately, is yourself. If you can beat yourself, then you will become a true pro.

Iam not trying to be a wise guy here. I just want to share my experience. I have told this to my best friend. he is not rich, just regular guy who likes to gamble. Now, he earn about $10-$15 a day. not bad. He lives far away from me now but when he met me 2 months ago, he kneeled down in front of me and said thank you to me. I admitted I was surprised and crying.
that's the main point guys. Not how big can you win but how can you really win...

Feel free to comment. We're friends and I will be glad to help you.

thank you.


Regards,

Mr. K

Mr. K,

Definitely agree that mastering one's self is the ultimate key.

Regarding your suggestion to walk away with only +1u, won't there come a day when you hit a string of losses and never get back to break even? So, do you use a stop-loss as well? But if your stop-loss is more than -1u, then your risk-to-reward ratio is quite unfavorable in the long run, and it may become impossibly hard to recoup your losses.

Your philosophy reminds me of a trader I know whose goal it was to take only 4 pips per day trading forex. However, he risked 20 pips per day to achieve his 4 pip profit goal. That is, his risk-to-reward ratio is 20:4 or 5:1, which is pretty steep. He was quite successful for some time, but then got a string of losing days. After a couple of months using this approach, he busted out, and now, he no longer trades anymore.

On the other hand, the best traders I know have a risk-to-reward of 1:2 or better, meaning for every 1 pip they risk, they expect to profit at least 2 pips per trade. They are the ones who are still trading profitably today.

I agree with Mr K.--the true enemy is within you. You must beat yourself first before anything else.

So--Mr K.--when you get in the hole do you flat bet or what is your betting strategy?

Originally Posted by davel

Mr. K,

Definitely agree that mastering one's self is the ultimate key.

Regarding your suggestion to walk away with only +1u, won't there come a day when you hit a string of losses and never get back to break even? So, do you use a stop-loss as well? But if your stop-loss is more than -1u, then your risk-to-reward ratio is quite unfavorable in the long run, and it may become impossibly hard to recoup your losses.

Your philosophy reminds me of a trader I know whose goal it was to take only 4 pips per day trading forex. However, he risked 20 pips per day to achieve his 4 pip profit goal. That is, his risk-to-reward ratio is 20:4 or 5:1, which is pretty steep. He was quite successful for some time, but then got a string of losing days. After a couple of months using this approach, he busted out, and now, he no longer trades anymore.

On the other hand, the best traders I know have a risk-to-reward of 1:2 or better, meaning for every 1 pip they risk, they expect to profit at least 2 pips per trade. They are the ones who are still trading profitably today.

Hi davel,

Good question. I understand your question. I did lose several times. But I managed to survive. Please remember this is gambling. 50:50. First of all, i Avoid martingale. use stop loss. Iam not a God. There is also luck factor in baccarat. I am lucky so far, 26 months

then why i said without a fail then?( first post). I compare it with my past. In the past, If i lose, i lose big. 4 digits to 5 digits ( no stop loss ). But now, stop loss is important.

1 week = 7 days. $700 will be a perfect score. how bout if i lose. in my experience, i lose only 1 day in 1 week. But most of them, i hit perfect score.

i have my own money management. I consider this like a real job. so i have to make profits every month. MM is the 2nd main key here. You have to know when to stop.

there are many ways to handle string of losses. you decide it by yourself.

i dont say 1 unit a day is a holy grail, but believe me, your chance is better.

Learn how to handle your losses. Use your head not your knee.

feel free to comment again

Originally Posted by thegeorgiahurricane

I agree with Mr K.--the true enemy is within you. You must beat yourself first before anything else.

So--Mr K.--when you get in the hole do you flat bet or what is your betting strategy?

I like flat betting but sometimes i use 1-2 progression. not more than than. I like chameleon. can adapt to any circumstances. let it flow!

what i like is, follow people when they're hot and against people when they're suck

In addition, there's something "strange" in baccarat. Sometimes, you can just feel it. Sometimes if i feel tie is going to come out, then i bet tie. I also bet dragon bonus but not all the time.

iam aware that those bets are against me but i dunt know why. sometimes i can just feel it

I've read that many professional gamblers set a percentage-of-bankroll type of target, for example, 10%. Once they're up 10%, they'll leave, no matter what. I suppose that is similar in spirit to your 1-unit target. With the percentage system, it gives the stop-loss more breathing room, for example a stop-loss of 5%. That way, their risk-to-reward ratio is always a favorable 1:2, making steadily increasing profits more achievable.

Congratulations on your great luck! I sincerely hope it lasts for you!

Originally Posted by davel

I've read that many professional gamblers set a percentage-of-bankroll type of target, for example, 10%. Once they're up 10%, they'll leave, no matter what. I suppose that is similar in spirit to your 1-unit target. With the percentage system, it gives the stop-loss more breathing room, for example a stop-loss of 5%. That way, their risk-to-reward ratio is always a favorable 1:2, making steadily increasing profits more achievable.

Congratulations on your great luck! I sincerely hope it lasts for you!

you can consider that as my strategy. you're very clever. I usually bring 30 times of my bet per hand. If i bet 100 a hand, then i usually bring 3K.

starting tomorrow, I will give you my triggers list. one by one. not holy grail. just a strategy to increase your odds. not trying to be a wise guy, but in this forum, we're unite. our enemy is the casino.

today's tip :

I never bring a friend to casino. have u experienced this?? you come to casino with ur friend. you're up to 4 digits but unfortunately your friend is losing. can you stop and wait your friend for a long time coz he is still playing?? i doubt it. you will be itchy to play again and end up losing all your profit+principal.

how bout if a friend ask you or me to go to casino. well, saying no is difficult. usually i say yes but only playing for fun and i bring only a little money.

how bout if my friend asking me to play in the same table? I usually play a couple of hands. minimum bets then i say "sorry, this shoe is not for me. you stay here. i will be back. make some money kay?" then i play at casino next door.

that's it for today. thanks for all the comments guys. I appreciate it

may the cards be with you always.


Mr. K

Originally Posted by xoxo

that's it for today. thanks for all the comments guys. I appreciate it
may the cards be with you always.

Mr. K

Thanks much for sharing your experiences. Very helpful to all.

Originally Posted by davel

Thanks much for sharing your experiences. Very helpful to all.

I play a similar way, flat-betting a large amount employing a stop-loss of minus 6 units per shoe. I use no stop-win but will cut out on a positive if I drop back down to +1 unit near the end of the shoe.

This way, it's quite easy to win several units per shoe, and more than ten units per session.

Right now I'm known as a black chip player and my goal is to up that to pinks ($500) by the end of the year.

I think this thread, in combination with GeorgiaHurricane's, "what doesn't work" takes a remarkably ground-breaking, fresh perspective on the game of Baccarat.

It may be premature to say, but I wonder about the risk of discussing such cutting-edge concepts as openly as we are.....

Great post xoxo.

I can relate to your experience. If you can win one unit per shoe and leave, that is great.

i totally agree, if you set your goal for the day make it reasonable, mm you could get ahead in the long run

Mr. K,

Thanks for sharing your approach to the game, I agree with you the real enemy to all of us, is inside our heads! we need to be able to have a good strategy and walk away once we win some units and repeat this on a regular basis.

Looking forward to your triggers,

Hello,

First all, I want you to know that i have so many triggers because like I said before, I don't trust 100% to any single system. So don't expect about holygrail here. Everything is still 50:50 but these triggers help me lots!

1. When I keep losing, whatever bets I place are wrong then I consider, at that day, Iam the unluckiest guy in the world . So what I do is : tracking all the players performace. write it down on the toteboard. Player 1,2,3, and so on. Give mark. If they win=O, lose=X. I try to analyse who is hot who is suck. if he/she is hot, i follow, if suck, I against.
SOmetimes they create a pattern like if he/she win,lose,win,lose,win,lose = OXOXOX. The next hand I will follow he coz i want him to win so the next pattern will be O. I know it's ridiculous but it happens.

I call this method : Human counting ( not card counting :P )

Good luck. Will give next trigger maybe tomorrow. Please aware this is just a tool to help you in the real battle not to make u rich. No holy grail here!

Mr. K

Originally Posted by xoxo

I call this method : Human counting ( not card counting :P )

This method would certainly work if the human you're counting is a baccarat master!

Im all for thinking outside the box and this falls into that category. I see no reason why that wouldn't work. I'll give an example of an occasion of when it did work. One day myself and several other seasoned players were struggling mightily. There was a young guy who had never played before who sat down with $40. The kid was HOT. He could not miss. We were just sitting there for a second in awe of his luck. So--we started following throwing what we thought we new out the window for that shoe. We recouped our losses for that shoe plus a nice profit!! I think he colored up $420 flat- betting $10 units. Of course he ended up playing a lot of it back because his luck ran out--but we weren't following then. Anyway--you can track anything--why not other players.

Originally Posted by xoxo

Hello,

First all, I want you to know that i have so many triggers because like I said before, I don't trust 100% to any single system. So don't expect about holygrail here. Everything is still 50:50 but these triggers help me lots!

1. When I keep losing, whatever bets I place are wrong then I consider, at that day, Iam the unluckiest guy in the world . So what I do is : tracking all the players performace. write it down on the toteboard. Player 1,2,3, and so on. Give mark. If they win=O, lose=X. I try to analyse who is hot who is suck. if he/she is hot, i follow, if suck, I against.
SOmetimes they create a pattern like if he/she win,lose,win,lose,win,lose = OXOXOX. The next hand I will follow he coz i want him to win so the next pattern will be O. I know it's ridiculous but it happens.

I call this method : Human counting ( not card counting :P )

Good luck. Will give next trigger maybe tomorrow. Please aware this is just a tool to help you in the real battle not to make u rich. No holy grail here!

Mr. K

Wow, last night I was driving in my car thinking of different systems and this exact idea crossed my mind. I think it makes a lot of sense.

That's great idea.. and I love this idea.. do you know why? several reasons

first of all, i have this experience.. i was in Pala casino in California...

and this guy was just winning crazy... this is true.. he knew which card is going to come.. (does anybody know how this guy does this? well, it was towrard end of the shoe though) anyhow.. he was betting big.. $3000 or more when he was SURE... then i followed.. he bet big then i followed.. then got 6 units without losing.. well.. toward end he was 100% winning rate.... then new shoe started and i followed him but he lost.... more units.... so you have to wait the "Right" moment....

and do you know why i like this system? because this isn't mechanical.. everyday is different and believe me everyday there is one or two lucky guys or unlucky guys....

i would still start from small though then move up.... nothing is 100%......

yes.. remember people.. start from small unit.. if the system win then bannkroll will go up.... i beleive people's starting bankroll is bit too high....

Betting follow the lucky player will not work well. I did that several times and i realize this: 1- it is hard to identify a lucky player ( cause you do not know when they are hot and when their luck is over, you could enter during the wrong time when his luck just about to finish.)
2- you have to follow all the bet the he or she make exactly otherwise if they bet 2 hands at 2 table or more but you only bet one table then you still could lose while they could win at the other table and loose at your table.
3- when you are so bad luck then even you bet follow the lucky player, you still loose. i ve been there.

Generally, this method will not work well.

Originally Posted by xoxo

Now, here is the secret. I believe it's easy to achieve only 1 unit in baccarat. 1 UNIT! Not more. you will easily achieve that. 99%! 1% is a super duper bad luck.

Originally Posted by xoxo

Please remember this is gambling. 50:50.

Originally Posted by xoxo

I usually bring 30 times of my bet per hand. If i bet 100 a hand, then i usually bring 3K.

Thank you for the thoughts and suggestion. I agree with self discipline to success.

You have fallen prey to quoting numbers that aren't quite correct, so I'll give you the correct math. People love to say "99% chance of xxx" without realizing just how extreme that really is. Also, remember this game isn't 50.00% chance of a win, it's 49.32% chance. All casino games have an edge in favor of the house.

Correct numbers...
At 49.32% win rate, stop limits of +1 and -30, you have a 95.3% success rate, 4.7% chance of failure. It doesn't sound as dramatic, but that's still a very good win rate.

Sorry, but 99.0% success rate cannot be achieved with Baccarat's 49.32% win rate. BTW, if the game were dead even, 50/50, stop limits of +1 and -30 have a 96.8% success rate. So the house edge costs you a little bit. Again if a game were truely 50.0% win rate, it would require +1,-100 limits to reach 99%. If you used this on American Roulette, your win rate would only be a mere 89.6%. Stick with Bacc, the house edge does make a difference.

There is the other thing about one unit wins. When subtracted from your expenses could lead to losses. Therefore, the unit size is also important. The bigger the unit, the bigger the bank roll.

hi xoxo, i do agree with your way of play i do hit and runs as well and do better, my question to you is what is your lost limit, how many units do you risk to make your unit?

Flat bet ?

Any usa players who play online and have no problems making deposit/withdrawls? Where do you play?

Originally Posted by xoxo

They guy claims to make $1K a day. completely bullshit. If yes, people don't need to work and casinos will bankrupt. 1K a day? 30K a month.

Then how I manage to earn $100 a day??
my first 2 years on baccarat, I set my target to $3K a day. Crazy huh? It is true that on given situations, gamblers can win so big. I managed to turn $200 to $50K, $1000 to $40K, $200 to $10K, etc. But unfortunately, I lose it all. I Witnessed with my own eyes, a vietnamese youngster, turned $2k to $200K in 1 day. Can you imagine that?

The question here, not how big can you win but Can you "really" win?? Every gamblers that I know, they did win lots, but unfortunately, gave the money back to the casino. It's only a matter of time. Trust me.

Baccarat had destroyed my life and people's life too. I used to say to myself before i went to casinos. "I only take $200, that's it". After I arrived, I got $200 in just 40 minutes then I said to myself, "how bout a little more profit, $100 more. More and More then I lose it all. I believe all of you experience the same thing. That is just one of my experiences.

what system am i using? I dont use specific system. sometimes I use system, Sometimes just follow people who is hot, sometimes just by looking of the patterns.

my target is 1 unit a day. So, for example, If i come, sit then first hand i bet on banker and win, then stop, go home. How bout if i lose that hand? I will keep playing until i produce 1 unit.

I believe if you just set your target for only 1 unit, your chance will be much better.

Please remember, the longer you play, you will be dead ASAP!

So guys, remember what I said. you are against the devil who is, unfortunately, is yourself. If you can beat yourself, then you will become a true pro.

I'm not so sure I get the point of this post... you say that someone who claims to make 1k+ a day playing baccarat is bullshit but you said you turned a $200 into 10k...

1k is pocket change to any casino... it's really not an obsurd amount of money to be taking from a casino even on a day to day basis.

Personally I would have to say gaining 1 unit a day does not give you any advantage. Your eventually going to sit down and lose 1+ units multiple days in a row, and then what? If you spend 10 days losing 1 - 5 units a day now your down 10 - 50 units and it will take you 10 - 50 days to gain it back... I don't understand the backing to just 1 unit per day, seeing as it doesn't provide any type of edge even in regards of greed. All it does is open up your risk and tightens your rewards... this will eventually lead to failure in the long run.

Originally Posted by xoxo

Hi Guys,

This is my first post here and Iam going to share you my experience in beating the casino for daily basis!

Before that, let's analyse :

The nemesis of baccarat is not patterns or systems or whateva but is yourself. I want to ask you a question, if you arrive at casino and you play and win couple of hundreds in just 5-10 minutes, can you walk away?? The answer is yes but not in the real circumstance. I bet 99% will keep playing. Wanna bet?

You will say to yourself, what??? I just arrived and now go home?? Come on! Let's have a little fun. Yes, you're correct, a little fun towards disaster.

Iam a pro. I was a blackjack card counter. But when atlantic city changed their rules : 6 to 5, hit on soft 17, and so on, I can't beat blackjack. Then I studied the odds. The best game in casinos, nowadays, will be BACCARAT. I fell in love...

Here is my story...

I have been playing for 4 years ( excluding Blackjack ). I lose about $100k USD for the first 2 years ( I hate casinos ). Now, I earn $100 a day without a fail for, now, 26 months straight!!! I repeat, without a fail. How?

Listen guys, I don't believe any systems. there is no holy grail. Let's take a look Maverick ( Elis's forum ). They guy claims to make $1K a day. completely bullshit. If yes, people don't need to work and casinos will bankrupt. 1K a day? 30K a month. How about if he has 10 students? totally bullshit. Iam not underestimate his system, infact, his system is a good one, but if he says holy grail, 1K a day, well, please manage my money, I will give u 90%, I'll take 10%. Iam not greedy. How bout that?
Not only Maverick, but all systems. NO HOLY GRAIL!

Then how I manage to earn $100 a day??
my first 2 years on baccarat, I set my target to $3K a day. Crazy huh? It is true that on given situations, gamblers can win so big. I managed to turn $200 to $50K, $1000 to $40K, $200 to $10K, etc. But unfortunately, I lose it all. I Witnessed with my own eyes, a vietnamese youngster, turned $2k to $200K in 1 day. Can you imagine that?

The question here, not how big can you win but Can you "really" win?? Every gamblers that I know, they did win lots, but unfortunately, gave the money back to the casino. It's only a matter of time. Trust me.

Baccarat had destroyed my life and people's life too. I used to say to myself before i went to casinos. "I only take $200, that's it". After I arrived, I got $200 in just 40 minutes then I said to myself, "how bout a little more profit, $100 more. More and More then I lose it all. I believe all of you experience the same thing. That is just one of my experiences.

Now, here is the secret. I believe it's easy to achieve only 1 unit in baccarat. 1 UNIT! Not more. you will easily achieve that. 99%! 1% is a super duper bad luck. That's what I do. 1 unit and go home! No need to have fun at the devil's house. You will die!

I collected $25 daily for 6 months ( for practise ) and it went smooth. Then I raised my betting size but still 1 unit a day.

what system am i using? I dont use specific system. sometimes I use system, Sometimes just follow people who is hot, sometimes just by looking of the patterns.

my target is 1 unit a day. So, for example, If i come, sit then first hand i bet on banker and win, then stop, go home. How bout if i lose that hand? I will keep playing until i produce 1 unit.

So, I finally beat the nemesis, my greedy, myself. Not the patterns or the systems or bla bla bla. HIt and run. play safe. I don't care if people win big in 1 day, the house will take its share. wanna bet?

I believe if you just set your target for only 1 unit, your chance will be much better.

Please remember, the longer you play, you will be dead ASAP! it was a funny thing when my casino host suddenly came to me and said, "Hey, how many nights do you want?" I said to myself, what??? I didnt even ask for room. what's the point then? Casino will very happy if you play long. that's why they give u free comps, free meals, bla bla bla.

So guys, remember what I said. you are against the devil who is, unfortunately, is yourself. If you can beat yourself, then you will become a true pro.

Iam not trying to be a wise guy here. I just want to share my experience. I have told this to my best friend. he is not rich, just regular guy who likes to gamble. Now, he earn about $10-$15 a day. not bad. He lives far away from me now but when he met me 2 months ago, he kneeled down in front of me and said thank you to me. I admitted I was surprised and crying.
that's the main point guys. Not how big can you win but how can you really win...

Feel free to comment. We're friends and I will be glad to help you.

thank you.


Regards,

Mr. K

Very nice story XOXO .. I admire what you do .. I will keep it in mind. right now I am trying my own system , and it take time .cant bet just one hand .. but you are right one thing . I usually cant get up , when I am up , but this time I will determind .. well see how far this will go ....

Mr. K, are you still going for $25 daily now? If this method works for you, why not go for $500 or $1k per unit?

What's your stop loss limit?

Originally Posted by wonSnoJ

I'm not so sure I get the point of this post... you say that someone who claims to make 1k+ a day playing baccarat is bullshit but you said you turned a $200 into 10k...

1k is pocket change to any casino... it's really not an obsurd amount of money to be taking from a casino even on a day to day basis.

Personally I would have to say gaining 1 unit a day does not give you any advantage. Your eventually going to sit down and lose 1+ units multiple days in a row, and then what? If you spend 10 days losing 1 - 5 units a day now your down 10 - 50 units and it will take you 10 - 50 days to gain it back... I don't understand the backing to just 1 unit per day, seeing as it doesn't provide any type of edge even in regards of greed. All it does is open up your risk and tightens your rewards... this will eventually lead to failure in the long run.

Hello it is possible to use $200 to turn over huge money.It depends on your plans how much to win per day and your stop loss per day.Only 'time' can win over casino nothing will beat them in long run even you have most powerful systems which needs progression and that's is dangerous.Per day us base bet of $20 and win 3 units using flat betting and I can tell you that 10k mark is possible with a good MM.Good luck.

Originally Posted by wonSnoJ

I'm not so sure I get the point of this post... you say that someone who claims to make 1k+ a day playing baccarat is bullshit but you said you turned a $200 into 10k...

1k is pocket change to any casino... it's really not an obsurd amount of money to be taking from a casino even on a day to day basis.

Personally I would have to say gaining 1 unit a day does not give you any advantage. Your eventually going to sit down and lose 1+ units multiple days in a row, and then what? If you spend 10 days losing 1 - 5 units a day now your down 10 - 50 units and it will take you 10 - 50 days to gain it back... I don't understand the backing to just 1 unit per day, seeing as it doesn't provide any type of edge even in regards of greed. All it does is open up your risk and tightens your rewards... this will eventually lead to failure in the long run.

i think the point is you dont have to stay in the casino any longer than you have to. Im not sure what xoxo's recovery strategy is when he encounters a day like that..i too have been doing this, i made a thread about it..so far so good. ive been getting 2units a day ($200) at a $100 dollar unit bet. the point is not the value per se of the goal, but the number of wins you can realistically get out of a casino on daily basis..

i would say problem is when you try to chase 1 unit then you might get into trouble.....