Flat-Betting Banker

[gerard711]

Got cornholed again tonight losing 10 unit using this bet selection method
shoe went like this
p
b
ppppp
b
ppp
b
pppppp
b
pp
bb
ppppp
b
ppp

for a total of 5 of 6 bankers singles within 30 hands

Makes me question the validity of this method
last 3 shoes playing this i have lost 22 units total
Am I just the unluckest player right now?

suggestions?

If you would have played the combo method and saw which side hit 6 first(ahead by at least 2) it of course was P ,you would have made +3(my win goal) easily and then started to bet 1/2 units to see if it continued and it did

G711

[fauzy]

The way I play it, you would have exited the shoe after the initial loss of
-6 units. In my experience, usually when losses exceed -6, you're in a P-dominant shoe and things tend to get worse. Begin again betting B in a new shoe, preferably a B-dominant one. If you lose -6 units once again, you have the option of increasing your bet size to 1.5 units.

Choose a shoe P-6 dominant and bet P
without p-6 we player Banker, ok 7shooter How ?

[fauzy]

Questions for you;

How do you know, it's only a business reason?

Do you know if, one has the "Holy Grail", one can sell it for a million dollars?

Do you think one should share it for free?

No need to choose a Holy grail,win more
we just select a system less lost
1248><parlay

[punvit]

No need to choose a Holy grail,win more
we just select a system less lost
1248><parlay

That's good for you, fauzy.

[aroach]

In my spare time when I'm online, I sometimes fool around with Bodog's free Baccarat game. Nine out of ten times, I come out ahead.

Personally, though, I'd never bet real money online. But that's just me.

The online casino I'm playing have unlimited decks and is using auto-shuffle. Can I apply this strategy there? Thanks.

[LoserNoMore]

If this were true, casinos would not be offering Baccarat.

They charge 5% commission to stop such strategies from ruining them.

[LoserNoMore]

Betting Banker only doesn't need the 5% vig to lose, you simply have to wait for a few Player dominated shoes to hit. Had one a while ago with an amazing 2-1 ratio to the Player, you're gonna lose faith pretty fast after hitting that and then a bunch of shoes which are balanced.

Exactly. And what's worse is this: you missed out on an obvious chance to capitalize on such a beautiful player shoe. And player doesn't charge commission!

Moral: don't fall in love with either player or banker. Let the shoe tell you which way to bet. And for heaven's sake, don't be betting every hand.

[chopper999]

G'day Severnshooter - could you please clear up my question for me Sir -

You have mentioned that you play the entire shoe from beginning to end betting banker every hand except for a PPP -

However you have also mentioned that as players, we have the power to decide when to quit and when to continue. If we consistently ended our sessions on up-swings each time, say, somewhere in the neighborhood between +4 to +6 units, the game is beaten

You have also mentioned that -

Flat bet >$100 units
Bankroll: >50 units
Stop win: one or two units per shoe (or let Banker bet ride until receding back down two units)
Stop loss: -5 units per shoe
Remember to never bet against Player streak -- halt betting at PPP until reappearance of B.
Very, very easy to win several units per day and win long-term as long as stop-loss is respected

Sir could you please tell me which one of the above 3 statements is correct and true i.e. - Does one stop at + 1 to + 2 units profit or does one stop at + 4 to + 6 units profit or does one simply play out the entire shoe and see what the profit + factor is at the end of the shoe.

I want to play your system but I need to know at what profit point do I STOP PLAY or do I just play the whole shoe through until the end.

Cheers Chopper.

[fauzy]

I chose to use a -6 unit stop loss since most of the shoes that went to -6 at the beginning tended to continue on a downward spiral.

Even if the shoe did recover after hitting -6, the end result was usually breaking even or just slightly plus.

I think the small stop-loss is critical to coming out ahead in the long run since you will encounter a number of shoes with long Banker streaks, as well. Win on Banker, never lose more than 3 units on lengthy Player runs.

Also, with flat-betting, things are much more manageable compared to using a negative progression. You can go through many shoes without exceeding lows of -2 or -3 units. Your highs can be extremely high (as flat-betting goes). +15 is not unattainable.


All I can say is, over 50 shoes dealt out in a land-based casino, I was up +145 units. I charted the Bac pit again this afternoon looking over the results of 10 more shoes played and was up another +51 units (paper bets). Mind you, in retrospect, these ended up being very Banker-biased shoes.

pp
b
pp
b
ppp
bb
pp
bb
ppp over -6u

[scot]

Why don't you have the testers like Ayuinca to test it over a substantial amount of shoe for you to verify it from a second source.

Hey two Scot's can't occupy one forum/universe. We would cancel each other out and internally implode like in Timecop.

[noje]

No need to choose a Holy grail,win more
we just select a system less lost
1248><parlay

flat betting banker it doesnt work belive me its all luck

[noje]

I have seen 300 shoes as player leading so how can you win flat betting banker I am sorry I dont belive in that flat betting takes you back to the loss much quicker keep in mind players betting last longer

[joshky]

I personally believe that the banker bet is one way of the few to beating this game. It comes down to MM.

Send me the 300 shoes and i am pretty sure i can out with a plus at the end of it.

[noje]

I personally believe that the banker bet is one way of the few to beating this game. It comes down to MM.

Send me the 300 shoes and i am pretty sure i can out with a plus at the end of it.

where do I sand you 300 shoes with player leading you have excel maybe I can sand you if you have hotmail ok

noje

and where do you get program which can check lots of shoes quick I got 4000 of them all real shoes from casinos

noje

[joshky]

This 300 shoes you speak of, are they consecutive shoes or shoes selected because they are player dominated?

Let's open up a thread here and post em shoes in batches of 5 or 10 at a time. At the same time, we could have a thread of our very own shoes here.

I am no programmer, so tests are done the ol fashion way, pen and paper :-)