Thread: Seeking Baccarat Colleague

Anyone know about a baccarat class taught at the Jameson Suites Hotel, Arlington Heights, IL, by a "professional casino gaming trainer," who goes by the name "Anthony Lango" (Tony)?

i hope itst not the guy i dealt with in arlington hieghts illinoi, hes a big time scammer works out of a hotel room

Hey Dave..try THEGOAL dude..sounds like similar interests..

Thanks!

dave i dont think pitty was serious the goal is even a bigger scammer

lmao

Originally Posted by steve6969

dave i dont think pitty was serious the goal is even a bigger scammer

ok, thanks Steve - Yeah, seems like any industry that is related to money, the scammers are pretty much in control.

Originally Posted by davel

ok, thanks Steve - Yeah, seems like any industry that is related to money, the scammers are pretty much in control.

Thank Mike for the free and public forum... the scammers have no (real) chance here.

Hello garnabby,

With your previous experiences are there any sellers that are legitmate and if they are legitmate would you say who they are? Also, by your previous experience have you seen any systems that can be documented as being profitable either commercial or posted on some forum somewhere?

Regards,
Jeff

Originally Posted by garnabby

Thank Mike for the free and public forum... the scammers have no (real) chance here.

Originally Posted by AZJeff

Hello garnabby,

With your previous experiences are there any sellers that are legitmate and if they are legitmate would you say who they are? Also, by your previous experience have you seen any systems that can be documented as being profitable either commercial or posted on some forum somewhere?

Regards,
Jeff

Also, if there are known scam sites out there selling systems you know don't work, it would help the community to have them listed.

Originally Posted by davel

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Seeking someone to split the tuition for a baccarat class taught at the Jameson Suites Hotel, Arlington Heights, IL, by a "professional casino gaming trainer," who goes by the name "Tony Lango."

So Davel, Did you go to this class? And how much did it cost? And were you satisfied that you got your money's worth?

I know most of the qualified teachers in the business after 30 years. I have never heard of this guy. I would walk in very skeptical and the first question I would ask is "Where can I watch you play?"

There are a breed of teachers trained by the casino. They are NOT scammers but only teach the rules of the game and how to play - not how to win. They are enlisted to promote Baccarat since it is the most profitable casino game for the casino. However they usually teach right in the casino and these classes are always free. It could be one of those guys struck out on his own.

Next, I would listen for the words "purely mechanical". If you hear those words, yep, he's a scammer.

Or, of course, he could be a legitimate 90 day wonder that has never come to my attention. Chicago, eh.???

Originally Posted by Ellis

So Davel, Did you go to this class? And how much did it cost? And were you satisfied that you got your money's worth?

I know most of the qualified teachers in the business after 30 years. I have never heard of this guy. I would walk in very skeptical and the first question I would ask is "Where can I watch you play?"

Thanks, Ellis ...

No, I didn't wind up going to the class by Anthony "Tony" Lango, partly thanks to Steve's warning. Steve had taken Mr. Lango's class with his buddy, and according to Steve, he feels Tony Lango is a scam.

I did talk to Tony a couple of times on the phone. Each conversation lasted for over an hour. He's a fast talker (indeed, he used to be a car salesman), and he said all the right things to make me think that he's the best thing since Jesus Christ. He said he remembered Steve and his buddy, but that when they took the course, they didn't express to him anything that made him think they got scammed. Tony felt that Steve was looking to win fast & big, but that since Tony's method is meant to be slow & gradual (winning only a few units over many shoes), that perhaps that's why Steve didn't take well to the method.

I did ask Tony whether I could watch him play. He said the only way he would do something like that is if I bankroll $20,000, and he would take 50% of the winnings. He wouldn't do it for "free."

I did call Ryan O'Conner, the general manager at the Jameson Suites Hotel in Arlington Heights, to ask whether he's received any complaints from anyone about Tony Lango. Ryan acknowledged that Tony is a good client, who always pays his bills on time, that he's been a guest at the hotel for quite some time, and that no one has ever made a formal complaint to him about Mr. Lango. But, Ryan said Tony shouldn't be using the hotel's name in his advertisements, as the hotel has nothing to do with the classes.

Well, Tony comes across as a really friendly guy (excellent car salesman), and he'll talk your ear off about baccarat, of course, with the purpose of selling you his course. He's got half-a-dozen ads in Chicago's Craigslist (just search "casinos" in "all services"), if you want his phone number. (Or PM me.)

On the subject of scammers..What happened to Johnny Millionaire?

Originally Posted by pitty1

On the subject of scammers..What happened to Johnny Millionaire?

Never heard of him.

Now there's another guy advertising in Chicago's Craigslist ... Michael Watson ... who has a website that expounds the glories of his baccarat method, which he calls "baccaratforcash." Gosh - this one is the most pricey so far: $2500!!!

I emailed him, and he told me to give him a call, that he only teaches 2 people a month, that he may not even choose to teach me, that he has been profitable for the past 30 years playing baccarat, that he can teach a monkey to do the same. (But of course, only 2 monkeys per month. )

the only reason i didnt say anything to him was i couldnt wait to get the hell out of there, then in his ad he states there was four teachers with classes everyday when i got there no other students or teachers , and the part i want to make big money what did you want a con artist to tell youn the truth

davel i have alot better ways to play then what tony has my only problem is discipline come to detroit i will teach you

Originally Posted by steve6969

the only reason i didnt say anything to him was i couldnt wait to get the hell out of there, then in his ad he states there was four teachers with classes everyday when i got there no other students or teachers , and the part i want to make big money what did you want a con artist to tell youn the truth

Tony now says he has 3 teachers in his team, but that one is in Vegas, and the other is in Atlantic City. Their names are "Little John" and "Shawn."

I also did a Google search and found that the same Tony Lango had also been advertising to find business partners for a business that has generated $100,000+/year for the past 15 years. I'm assuming the business he's referring to is his baccarat teaching business, or possibly he means playing baccarat as a business. According to Tony, his first business partner was a guy named "Richard," who wanted to sell Tony's method for $10,000 a pop, but currently, Tony is selling his class for $300, the reason being, he wants to help those suffering due to the poor economy.

Originally Posted by steve6969

davel i have alot better ways to play then what tony has my only problem is discipline come to detroit i will teach you

Thanks for the invitation, Steve! I shall keep it in mind.

yeah i saw that one too, man he is a pro as for micheal watson i talked to him before if he was making the kind of money he claims why would he waste time posting all over when he could make that 2500 just playing

i think we should start a new thread and list all the scammers #1 on the list should be the goal after what he did to daytrader who was willing to travel and put up his money

Originally Posted by steve6969

yeah i saw that one too, man he is a pro as for micheal watson i talked to him before if he was making the kind of money he claims why would he waste time posting all over when he could make that 2500 just playing

Yeah, I asked the same question to Tony Lango, why if his method is such a great cash generator, why would he ever sell it at any price, why not just use it to make millions?

... and Tony's reply is that he still uses his method to profit himself at the casinos (he claims his account at Harrah's is over $100K), but at the same time, he loves to help people and to help them not lose their money to the casinos. He also claims to have taught university professors, and that he loves the feeling he gets when these Ph.Ds look up to him in awe (Tony only has an 8th grade education) for figuring out such a bullet-proof system. And of course, Tony wants to help as many people during this recession as possible.

Anyway, this is the same kind of sentiment that all those people advertising the get-rich-quick schemes give you ... that they are all such great humanitarians and they're doing the world a huge favor by sharing their knowledge. And then they make you feel stupid, ungrateful, or undeserving if you should dare not to take them up on their heroic generosity. Wow - they sure can do a number on your mind. But I guess that's all part of the scam industry. Where they hook you is leaving you ever wondering whether they're the real deal, and that you'd be missing out on the best opportunity in a lifetime if you don't take them up on their offer. There's must be a whole psychology behind the art of the scam.

Originally Posted by davel

Never heard of him.

Now there's another guy advertising in Chicago's Craigslist ... Michael Watson ... who has a website that expounds the glories of his baccarat method, which he calls "baccaratforcash." Gosh - this one is the most pricey so far: $2500!!!

I emailed him, and he told me to give him a call, that he only teaches 2 people a month, that he may not even choose to teach me, that he has been profitable for the past 30 years playing baccarat, that he can teach a monkey to do the same. (But of course, only 2 monkeys per month. )

He says all the same things as "Don Tigert, The Seminar Method" including the part about how to maximize comps. I think it might be one and the same person or an associate working hand in hand. The price of the two training courses are the same..$2500.00