Anyone have Baccarat Assassin?

[ADulay]

Their site is deader than dead, adulay isnt talking about it, he lost his shirt i heard from another member....stay clear of this!

Daytrader,

I lost my shirt? I don't think so. If you could confirm where you heard that from I'd love to talk with them, but I can pretty much guess where it came from.

For the record, I don't play any of the Sniperbaccarat systems. I have access to them and have tested with them but they currently don't fit my particular style of play.

I do play two major systems from Ellis' site and am quite happy with the results for the last year. Actually it will be a full year in August at which time I'll write up a complete recap of the one year experience.

In the meantime, my local B&M casino wins are going well as are my online live play at Bet Phoenix. If anything, I'd be buying a few new shirts, not losing them.

AD

[scot]

Daytrader,


I do play two major systems from Ellis' site and am quite happy with the results for the last year. Actually it will be a full year in August at which time I'll write up a complete recap of the one year experience.

In the meantime, my local B&M casino wins are going well as are my online live play at Bet Phoenix. If anything, I'd be buying a few new shirts, not losing them.

AD

Cheers to your success, Adulay. What two systems do you play at BTC if you don't mind me asking?

[ADulay]

Cheers to your success, Adulay. What two systems do you play at BTC if you don't mind me asking?

Scot,

Maverick and NuSap are my two primary plays at this time.

AD

[gerard711]

Is Maverick tuff to learn

[John1234]

I personally think it is a little hard to learn..it mainly just takes time and practice, I'm sure AD can tell you all about the practice. But it is worth the time. It is probably one of the best systems that I have ever seen. I play it from time to time.

[Bryan]

I personally think it is a little hard to learn..it mainly just takes time and practice, I'm sure AD can tell you all about the practice. But it is worth the time. It is probably one of the best systems that I have ever seen. I play it from time to time.

John1234,

No disrespect, but, you seems to suggest that your baccarat assassin is inferior to Ellis Maverick system?

If that's the case, then, you could do a service to those who buy your system by taking down your site and refer them to Ellis instead.

[John1234]

It could be better than the Assassin, I haven't played it enough to know. And when I do play it, I think I play it wrong. It is a different type of system. Sometimes you have to make big bets with it, which is why I do not play it all of the time. I usually don't like betting over 4 or 5 units. I'm not sure if it is better or worse then the Assassin, I think it depends on playing style. I would recommend it to anybody who is willing to spend a lot of time working, learning, and practicing.

I'm not selling the system anymore come this Sunday. I can't take the site down though, there are people in the private area who enjoy talking about the game. Imagine if the site just vanished, haha that would be bad.

[daytrader]

thanks john, glad i didnt waste money on this crap....

[daytrader]

is a run 3 or more? I want to test this against my shoes from a live casino...

[John1234]

haha you are an idiot. that is not the whole system. I've made a good bit of money off of it actually. And even if you do post the system, it wont help anybody. People need the forum to truly learn the system, the manual is designed that way.

And what negative progression are you talking about? We are using a 1,2 positive/neg

[John1234]

When I've got nothing else to do, I'll read it some more...

This will be the true test to see if you have no life. We both know that you cannot post it to download because it will give away your source so that is not an option. the only other option would be for you to actually take the time to write it all out + the few examples that we have in the manual. if you really do that, then it just proves that you need to get a life and it proves that you are more of an idiot than I originally thought because you go through all of the trouble to dismiss something before you even try it.
And you are actually hurting people more than you are helping. There are a lot of people here who will not be able to understand mode A, how are you going to explain it to them? You and the asshole who gave you the system are responsible for people who go out and play this system without the knowledge of what they are doing. They are never going to get my help and joining my forum for help will never be an option. So think of all of the people who are going to lose because of YOU, posting a system that you have no knowledge about. You better learn to master this system so you can help the countless amount of people who will have questions about the system. Your actions completely contradict what you are doing here. You want to save people money but how do you save people money when you have them going out and playing a system that they don't understand?

[daytrader]

john1234
Why dont you do all of us a favor and help us since john posted the meat of the system. If your concerned that we will lose money, help us dear friend! Remember, you said you COULD CARE LESS ABOUT MONEY! Thats not your goal, so please HELP ME FOR FREE!

[John1234]

haha as much as I would love to, that would be disrespectful to the people who have paid and are learning the system on my forum. I seriously would help but I can't. I don't have the time. Between actually going to the casinos and work I'm booked. I'm sure John will have time to teach it. He has nothing better to do but post systems online and talk to himself on GG.

[John1234]

Also keep in mind that he did not post the full system. that is only the framework of it. I see nothing about MM no 2hi progression and how to work it and losing situations, nothing about modes A, B, C and switching modes. I see nothing. You are sure to lose if you just follow this.

[AZJeff]

I asked the sellers of this system twice to post results over a long time period. My posts were made on their forum. I was advised twice by the sellers that they would publish the results over a 1000 shoes. As of now, I do not see those results posted on their site. I even asked if they would do this before they stopped taking new customers. I am not saying anything negative or critical but it is factual. I have no idea if this system is profitable or not based over a 1000 shoe test period.

For fyi purposes here is the link to where malcop told me he would publish those results over time. New System

Regards,
Jeff

[ADulay]

Is Maverick tuff to learn

Yes it is.

AD

[pitty1]

Johno u Hack...u must work for some intelligence agency..I was gettin ready to post a system for a couple of hundred bucks..but i give up.. insiders are already at work...so i'll post it here for FREE..I call it the TIEBREAKER..watch the toteboard..When the see B/P even out about every 10 handsn or so.. start betting on ties.(of course smart MM would help).Worked wonderfully on a 15 TIE shoe last nite.....If u win with it... please send donations to clean those oily pelicans they show on TV...BP sucks a gnarly one...

[Evo]

Johno. First off I would like to thank you for what you are trying to do and that is save people money. I hope you all see that I have been a member of this site for a little while now and this is my first post. I am new to the game of bac and have always been a craps player. I have had my eye on this Assassin system . I do not feel that any Bet slection can change the house edge. The best it can do is try to get the W's and L's to cluser and your MM help you show a profit.

I still would like to have a look at the system. I have heard that you posted their other systems but I have been unable to find them. Now with this latest system

In your post you said but I have enough to glean what it is all about

I take this to mean you do not have the PDF. Well here is a post by one of the sellers of this system

Incase you missed it we have decided to stop selling in a week. We want to focus on playing. It is kind of weird how your actions drove in more sales. I honestly don't understand how it worked that way. I'm sure that we lost a ton of sales but I really don't care. It would be too many people to deal with anyway. We have a nice small group of people..and we want it to stay that way.
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We have decided that we are going to close our doors to new private members. Our doors will close on Sunday June 6th 2010 at Midnight,

Well since they are not going to sell the system and see how he said I really don't care. I would like to offer to you Johho or anyone else for a copy of the PDF 100 dollars. I will only pay for the PDF because there is no other way to know that I am getting the real thing. The whole name should thing should not be an issue due to the fact they are not selling anyomore and don't care. This is a shot for anyone that wants atleast some of their money back from this system.

Also John I would like to ask are you john or johno I do not want to insult you your name says john but people call you johno.

I think you have a friend Tito or something like that and you or him have made a few posts about Izaks systems how he changes the results of Zumma so his system wins. I want to know if you have or have seen

Particular Case Roulette System
any info on this sysem would be great and if anyone wants to trade to me I have many systems

[thegeorgiahurricane]

John1234 is a good guy--not a scammer. Ive got a brilliant idea. Why dont some of you lazy asses who hang around here calling people names go to the trouble of developing and testing a system instead of waiting for someone to post something so you can trash it. Im familiar with 1234's basic concepts and I think it is a refreshing approach. Until you post something worth a shit why dont you STFU. 1234 is a nice guy and he really doesnt want to be an ass. But he has every right to be because some of you people are way off base.

[Evo]

Thank you georgiahurricane. I am glad that you took the time to reply. I do not know if you were upset with me or speaking about someone elses post. I am not trying to say that the makers of Assasson or bad guys in any way.

I am just pointing out that they will not sell the system anymore and so I am willing to buy what one might call a used copy kind of like a used book store. At a reduced price. Now if they were still selling the system then you can say I took money away from them but since they are not that means there will be no money lost by them in me buying a used copy.

I do not know Johno or you georgiahurricane. Johno is simply the first person to step up and say he has or atleast seen the system.

please do not take this as an attack on 1234 or what ever you called him
I do not know how he fits in all of this I only used his post to show that I think even he would be ok with me buying a used copy from johno since he does not care and by me doing so it does not cost him money His door is closed

georgiahurricane if I do not buy a used copy how do I get one the door is closed. Johno has it or knows were to get one and since the site is closed the whole name in the PDF is a none issue

I hope you can see what I am trying to say georgiahurricane and I do not know if Johno will ever see my post or reply. That is why I open this up to anyone not just Jhono. all I can do is try

[thegeorgiahurricane]

Sorry EVO-- I certainly wasnt directing this towards you. Im sorry if it appeared that way.

[AZJeff]

Who were you directing your post to? If you were directing it to me you are way off base as Malcop told me he would post the results to a 1000 shoes. I asked the sellers a question on their forum and they gave an answer to it.

Regards,
Jeff

Sorry EVO-- I certainly wasnt directing this towards you. Im sorry if it appeared that way.

[thegeorgiahurricane]

Hit dog hollers

[John1234]

Who were you directing your post to? If you were directing it to me you are way off base as Malcop told me he would post the results to a 1000 shoes. I asked the sellers a question on their forum and they gave an answer to it.

Regards,
Jeff

Sorry, we got lost in posts over there. It is hard for us to manage the whole forum at times.
I don't really remember the question, sorry for my ignorance.

[John1234]

John1234 is a good guy--not a scammer. Ive got a brilliant idea. Why dont some of you lazy asses who hang around here calling people names go to the trouble of developing and testing a system instead of waiting for someone to post something so you can trash it. Im familiar with 1234's basic concepts and I think it is a refreshing approach. Until you post something worth a shit why dont you STFU. 1234 is a nice guy and he really doesnt want to be an ass. But he has every right to be because some of you people are way off base.

Thank you for your kind words. I agree with you about hanging around here testing systems and then waiting for it to be trashed. Maybe that is the problem with free forums. This kind of stuff seems to happen all over the place.

There are a lot of good ideas on this forum that people trash. I guess one person's trash is another person's treasure.

[John1234]

Just an update to everybody. Our doors are now closed.

[AZJeff]

Not Hardly.

Hit dog hollers

[AZJeff]

No worries. I moved on. Good luck to you and your members.

Regards,
Jeff

Sorry, we got lost in posts over there. It is hard for us to manage the whole forum at times.
I don't really remember the question, sorry for my ignorance.

[pitty1]

Don't join a shoe late? Why they going to run out of B's or P's? If u play for REAL..u'll know that more plays the last hand than the first.

[Evo]

Johno I am glad you are doing well with your play. could you please tell me if you have seen the system put .out by Izak that I asked about

to be honest I did not know if you would take the time to reply.

I do enjoy reading your posts. One thing I can say is that you bring the passion to your posts and I think that is good for the fourm.

I was really being honest when I said I would pay you or anyone for a copy of the PDF. I will send the money through pay pal. If you would like I can send 50 now and after the PDF is in my hands I will send the other half if we have a trust issue. I am not trying to keep you from anything I just want a copy of the PDF. If I do not send you the money then you can come go Johno on me with all your glory. I think you make a lot of good points in your posts There are many people out there selling systems that they know will not work. What don't understand is if malcop was after money then why stop selling to new members?

I really will send you money. I think as much as you post I am sure you have friends in a lot of places that is why I asked you about Izaks last system and also Assassin II. I don't think you will send me the file

I do think you are a man of your word so if you would have said the file is on the way I would have trusted you. Now about me being a shill. not make any money off of the site they have so I really do not care if 10 people or 1000 join I really don't gain anything so I think this proves I am not a shill. I do not even know where John or malcop are from.It appears

John1234 and Malcorp are moving to a Ellis type of scam, which is pay for access membership. You may have a point there if they open back up. If you have winning systems then why not play them and not sell them.

So I think we have to hold off and see if they open back up before we can pass judgement.

thank you for your reply