WARNING: Watch out for THEGOAL

[Thegoal]

Let's focus more on the topic of Baccarat and less on the players, themselves.

I agree.

From my recent successful trip, I revealed that card counting, used the right way, can work!

[Ellis]

I agree.

From my recent successful trip, I revealed that card counting, used the right way, can work!

Are you saying you have this great winning method and you suddenly switched to card counting? In Baccarat? Why, pray tell?

[pitty1]

Yeah and i'm sure MR.Goal come up with a new improved sports betting pool scam too.The graiglist guy said u burned him out of 500 bucks..u say he did not prove it..he says it sucked thru 20 shoes..u say hes a false disgruntled customer.and if u can't believe that then it was an old system u was selling for a friend..right.. see what i mean about excuses.. Do I really have to meet u in person? Daytrader tried it...didn't he..oh yeah all kinds of problems come up..another set of excuses..PM me ur system..i'll run it thru some live shoes first..O yeah...u don't trust me...another excuse.

[vbangle]

TheGoal really is a slick POS isn't he? It so amazing to see someone of his ilk. He has zero shame or conscious. Guys like this prey on weak and naive people. He is a cold calculating psychopath.

Hey TheGoal from everybody you ever scammed and stolen from, FUCK OFF.

[Thegoal]

Yeah and i'm sure MR.Goal come up with a new improved sports betting pool scam too.The graiglist guy said u burned him out of 500 bucks..u say he did not prove it..he says it sucked thru 20 shoes..u say hes a false disgruntled customer.and if u can't believe that then it was an old system u was selling for a friend..right.. see what i mean about excuses.. Do I really have to meet u in person? Daytrader tried it...didn't he..oh yeah all kinds of problems come up..another set of excuses..PM me ur system..i'll run it thru some live shoes first..O yeah...u don't trust me...another excuse.

Of course you would say "sports betting pool scam"

You like the guy who posted he was ripped off for $500, are an ignorant, sheep/tool. Read the entire "sports betting scam pool". You'd soon find out the guy who posted about being scammed was banned from the forum. Why was he banned? He was part of a crime ring. What he would do, was target anybody who spoke of having lots of money. Hack their e-mail accounts. Steal personal information. And then proceed to attempt to extort them for money in return for him not mis using their personal info. If the person refused? He went on ranting on the forum, saying they were "scammed" by that person, as a way to smear their forum "reputation". He had a few aliases on the forum. If you read the whole thing, you'd see, a forum mod and another forum member, stepped in, and asked the victim to show proof of wire receipts of him sending money. And proof of his contract. ....he never provided the proof. He didn't have any to provide. Eventually he was banned as his campaigns were soon obviously evident. That is why the post was moved from the "scammers" section of the forum, to the "warzone" section. By the way, only moderators can delete threads. At no time was I a moderator.

Ignorance...lol, very damaging.

And, the person on craigslist knows the policy very well. Prove the system loses in just 13 short online FREE shoes, and the $500 is returned no questions asked. Very simple thing to do. Instead? He did 3 shoes, got frustrated and preferred to go on craigslist and post. Not once was he yelled at, cursed at, or called a name. I was very patient, and attentive and sensitive. But, he resorted to name calling, threats and outlandish slurs. Very Classy.

I even e-mailed him after wards, saying, let's just finish up the last 10 online free shoes, no cost to you, and if it loses, I will still send the $500 back. He is still refusing. And wants to be a child. What can I do?

[Thegoal]

Yeah and i'm sure MR.Goal come up with a new improved sports betting pool scam too.The graiglist guy said u burned him out of 500 bucks..u say he did not prove it..he says it sucked thru 20 shoes..u say hes a false disgruntled customer.and if u can't believe that then it was an old system u was selling for a friend..right.. see what i mean about excuses.. Do I really have to meet u in person? Daytrader tried it...didn't he..oh yeah all kinds of problems come up..another set of excuses..PM me ur system..i'll run it thru some live shoes first..O yeah...u don't trust me...another excuse.

Well, if you show up at my door, there isn't really anywhere I can go. So you are more than welcome.

I go to foxwoods and atlantic city very often. Call my cell phone and we can make arrangements.

If I was a scammer? I'd be gone the moment my actual home address was posted with my cell phone number, pleading with a mod to remove that post. C'mon. Scammers hide behind computer screens and phones, because they are afraid. They are lowlife, fearful, thieves. I am a face to face guy. I've run constructions companies, and have been a big part of a community YMCA. Anyone wanting to see me in action, just call my cell phone. I will pick up. And we can make arrangements.

[Thegoal]

Are you saying you have this great winning method and you suddenly switched to card counting? In Baccarat? Why, pray tell?

Well, not really switched. You as much as I do, know, that any method could always use improvement. But, really, all I did was kind of attempt to add card counting to our "go with the shoe" style systems ellis, and it seems to increase the effectiveness.

[Thegoal]

Some people are GREAT!

The guy who made the craigs list e-mailed me a heartfelt apology for lashing out on me on the phone and making the craigslist post. He admitted to losing his temper and apologized for everything! That made my heart smile.

And for that very warm disposition he expressed, I will return his $500.

Positive begets positive.

[Bryan]

Well, not really switched. You as much as I do, know, that any method could always use improvement. But, really, all I did was kind of attempt to add card counting to our "go with the shoe" style systems ellis, and it seems to increase the effectiveness.

It is always good to add in more variety to your system.

TheGeorgiaHurricane got a great idea about cards scores in another thread, you should read it up and if possible, try to put it into your system. I bet that you would out-sell Ellis in times to come. Keep up all your good works.

[Ellis]

GH posted a Baccarat Card Counting instruction? Where is it? I missed it.

[pitty1]

MR gaod..First this guy on graiglist is criminal extorting personal information..then he gets banned..then he refused ur 13 shoe online challenge.then he called..u two kissed and made up...ur sending him his 500 bucks back which means he thinks ur system sucks...Boy o boy the scamscuses never stop man.PM me ur grail..i will run it thru 8 live shoes..if it wins i'll say it sucks.o.k.?.. if that will make u feel better.(I promise i will not use real money to test ur system)

[Thegoal]

MR gaod..First this guy on graiglist is criminal extorting personal information..then he gets banned..then he refused ur 13 shoe online challenge.then he called..u two kissed and made up...ur sending him his 500 bucks back which means he thinks ur system sucks...Boy o boy the scamscuses never stop man.PM me ur grail..i will run it thru 8 live shoes..if it wins i'll say it sucks.o.k.?.. if that will make u feel better.(I promise i will not use real money to test ur system)

I'm afraid you haven't even digested this thread correctly. The guy who posted on craigslist, has nothing to do with the extortionist who posted the "sports betting pool" scam thing years back on an investment forum. These are two different individuals you are talking about. So there is lack of total understanding in your posts. Perhaps after you grasp a complete understanding of the entire thread, then you'll make a more informed post?....

Yes, the individual who posted on craigslist, has made a formal apology to me. And with that effort to be a civilized and reasonable person, I am returning his $500 fee. Where's the excuse?

But if you insist, we can go on dublin bet and I will trial the system with you as many times as you wish. But, I am not pming you the system. If you'd rather call me a scammer, based on ignorance? Then, that only says negative about you, not myself.

[Thegoal]

Again, what you are doing is immature, childish and FLAT OUT WRONG.

You go posting my picture (which I don't mind), which is wrong. Posting I scammed you on rip off report which is wrong. And posting old "smoke and mirrors" postings that were posted about me years ago, that has never been proven and is FALSE. They are all false. Notice the poster was banned. FALSE.

The "sports betting" pool. Money was sent via WIRE, bank wire. No western union. Nothing was lost in the sports betting pool...no one was angry. There was two to three people who decided to jump on the original posters bandwagon (the banned guy), who obviously were SHILLS. Anyone with a brain and common sense would see the guy was trying to EXTORT me for money. Read through the whole post and you'd see. Obviously, that's not what you want to do. You want to continue this idiocy online.

The system I gave you works. You were doing it wrong on paper, and when I was explaining what you were doing wrong you started to yell at me and make threats. There is more to this than what you feel about the $500.

In any case, $500 is nothing. Chump change. I said we can go online and prove it lost, and you REFUSED.

The people who post are ALREADY angry, gambling degenerates. THAT is NOT my doing! They only needed a REASON to keep being angry! And do SOMETHING with their lives.

I did not just play 3 shoes you fucking dolt. Sheep? Tool? You misspoke once again. I played 20 shoes on Dublin Bet. Totally in the neg real fast. You keep using the term "prove". How can anybody "prove" that your system loses or that you took money via Western Union for the sports betting scam and "all was lost".
I think the preponderance of your guilt has been proven on this forum and all the other ones that mention you in a negative way. Why would so many be angry with you if you did right by them, your systems worked, or the sports betting pool went well?
The no skill child is you Hasaan. Again, you are one desperate, sorry, and sad excuse for a human being. You will never do one noble thing in your life. Shame on you and the people who raised you.
Oh yeah, you don't just eat fruit and pure protein. When I first spoke to you, you were eating pizza.
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[vbangle]

Wait, you didn't refund his $500? You said you would. You lying piece of shit. You are pure evil.

[pitty1]

Checked out Goalys home page..If pictures mean a thousand words..not there man...But I do dig that CHICK...man i'm gonna have dreams about her.Peace out..

[joshky]

The Goal is a piece of art.

[pitty1]

Just noticed today is The Goals birthday...uhh happy birthday....i think...

[Thegoal]

Just noticed today is The Goals birthday...uhh happy birthday....i think...

Thank you. I didn't notice this, otherwise I would have said thank you sooner.

[Scambuster]

This is to let everybody know that Hasaan Steel has fully redeemed himself with me and refunded my $500. He did the right thing.

[Thegoal]

This is to let everybody know that Hasaan Steel has fully redeemed himself with me and refunded my $500. He did the right thing.

Most people are too much of a coward to post even THIS after being refunded. Thank you.

[anhtanny]

Archer, if you win $1000 or more, consistently, every day, for a month or two, maybe even less time, if you don't keep under the radar, you will be most likely kicked out. Especially at foxwoods.

Even if you win a million .. they wont kick you out.. stop your bull shit man .. .. this is baccarat here. it not black jack counting card here ....get it real.!!!

[Scambuster1]

This is to let everybody know that Hasaan Steel has fully redeemed himself with me and refunded my $500. He did the right thing.

It is satisfying to see there is more than one person on this board busting scams.

[bhumibol]

Good for you. He has not refunded me yet.

[wonSnoJ]

This is to let everybody know that Hasaan Steel has fully redeemed himself with me and refunded my $500. He did the right thing.

Funny how this quote comes from a poster with 1 reply...

[Thegoal]

Funny how this quote comes from a poster with 1 reply...

What's even funnier, is you know nothing about this situation, yet you decided to post a remark about it. Scambuster is a guy who went through leaps and bounds to post that I was a scammer all over the internet. From putting up a website with my picture, to posting in rip off reports,....the whole nine yards. He did much more than most people would. And over just $500. When he got his $500 back? He went and deleted many of his posts on this forum, and the website he put up. Including trying to amend the rip off reports posts (anyone who posts there, knows thats not easy, once you post).

Bhumibol? Has never sent me a dime. So, that's why he wasn't refunded.

Any other funny quotes you want to point out "wonsnoj"?

[wonSnoJ]

Any other funny quotes you want to point out "wonsnoj"?

Nope, no more quotes.

I will mention though that "scambuster" posted 8 minutes after your post. Now that is funny.

I'm not on these forums to fight, but please don't try to insult my intelligence. I know what I see.

[Thegoal]

Nope, no more quotes.

I will mention though that "scambuster" posted 8 minutes after your post. Now that is funny.

I'm not on these forums to fight, but please don't try to insult my intelligence. I know what I see.

Ok, let's run with that. With what you "see".

So, scambuster (who according to the analysis you made based on you "knowing what you see" is my 'split personality') goes on a rampage, posting I am a scammer on rip off report, other gambling forums, ....even creates a website putting a picture of me on it, calling it "Hasaan Steel scam", posts on this forum about me owing him $500, multiple times over, and posts a link o the website here. This guy threatens to come to my house, posts my address here for everyone to see. He then, gets refunded the $500, and then, decides to amend all of his postings, including taking the website down, and clearing his posts he made here (many baccaratforum.com members who were apart of the big argument can attest to this),.... you find it weird that he happened to post about his refund 8 minutes after I posted something? Did you do a search for EVERYONE else who may have posted 8 minutes after I posted something? Have you told them how weird it is too?

I don't have to try, and wont try to insult your intelligence. You have done a good enough job doing that yourself. I'm going to walk away from this (as the bigger man) as I'm sure you are new here, and haven't a clue. But, do a search on this forum, and on google. Maybe that'll help you realize how silly your theory is.

[wonSnoJ]

Ok, let's run with that. With what you "see".

So, scambuster (who according to the analysis you made based on you "knowing what you see" is my 'split personality') goes on a rampage, posting I am a scammer on rip off report, other gambling forums, ....even creates a website putting a picture of me on it, calling it "Hasaan Steel scam", posts on this forum about me owing him $500, multiple times over, and posts a link o the website here. This guy threatens to come to my house, posts my address here for everyone to see. He then, gets refunded the $500, and then, decides to amend all of his postings, including taking the website down, and clearing his posts he made here (many baccaratforum.com members who were apart of the big argument can attest to this),.... you find it weird that he happened to post about his refund 8 minutes after I posted something? Did you do a search for EVERYONE else who may have posted 8 minutes after I posted something? Have you told them how weird it is too?

I don't have to try, and wont try to insult your intelligence. You have done a good enough job doing that yourself. I'm going to walk away from this (as the bigger man) as I'm sure you are new here, and haven't a clue. But, do a search on this forum, and on google. Maybe that'll help you realize how silly your theory is.

There are multiple people with the name of Scambuster throughout various gambling forums and other forums. Whether is be Scambuster, Scambuster1, Scambuster2, etc.

There is no way to tell who is who, but you're claiming it's the exact guy (Scambuster) you're speaking of. This is getting funnier and funnier.

You're trying to convince me that he coincidentally made his way over to this forum to make a single post 8 minutes after your last post. This speaks for itself.

[bhumibol]

What's even funnier, is you know nothing about this situation, yet you decided to post a remark about it. Scambuster is a guy who went through leaps and bounds to post that I was a scammer all over the internet. From putting up a website with my picture, to posting in rip off reports,....the whole nine yards. He did much more than most people would. And over just $500. When he got his $500 back? He went and deleted many of his posts on this forum, and the website he put up. Including trying to amend the rip off reports posts (anyone who posts there, knows thats not easy, once you post).

Bhumibol? Has never sent me a dime. So, that's why he wasn't refunded.

Any other funny quotes you want to point out "wonsnoj"?

Hasaan, you go to hell. I paid for your round trip air ticket and paid for the hotel for your upcoming stay. Yes, the expenses were more than a dime to me and I think it is to you, too. I will eat my shirt if you have a dime to pay me back never mind to badmouth me. When are you going to learn to accept the truth? I waited for you at the airport for over two hours and I never saw you coming. You did not even receive my phone calls or send me an email to say you were not coming. If I did that to you, how did you feel?

[wonSnoJ]

Hasaan, you go to hell. I paid for your round trip air ticket and paid for the hotel for your upcoming stay. Yes, the expenses were more than a dime to me and I think it is to you, too. I will eat my shirt if you have a dime to pay me back never mind to badmouth me. When are you going to learn to accept the truth? I waited for you at the airport for over two hours and I never saw you coming. You did not even receive my phone calls or send me an email to say you were not coming. If I did that to you, how did you feel?

It truely is a comedy seeing this type of stuff play out.

Yet the guy keeps trying to defend himself.