WARNING: Watch out for THEGOAL

[vbangle]

We have played 2 shoes on dublinbet and the 1st shoe he made 3 units, the 2nd shoe he lost (not exactly sure how much). For 2 shoes, we're out money............

In all honesty I'm sorry to hear that for your sake daytrader.

I agree with steve, we all need to stop wasting our time with this guy.

[Thegoal]

lol.

In total? After only two shoes? We are down 4.5 units. You're right, I am a liar. For not being able to make a million units in two shoes. Sorry.

Remember, I didn't come here looking to prove to anyone anything. Seriously. lol, I came here looking for partners to come to the casino with me and make money. You keep confusing me with a system seller. I'm not selling my system, and I'm also not looking for any partners anymore. I am already working with four people from here daytrader and three other members I won't mention without their permission (when you're mature, you respect privacy) and that's where it ends.

But, I'll continue to post here. No big deal there. Anyway, day trader, feel free to post your experience here. Don't worry, we'll be up more units. But, if you really want to do this and post an experience, I suggest you do more than two shoes a day. Otherwise it won't work really. For instance, after winning one shoe, then losing a few on another, we'd recover ground and be up the next few. That's usually the case. So stick it out for 4-5 shoes next time. I always play 5-10 shoes a day whenever I use the system live.

[anotherusernametaken]

The Goal- When are you going to play on dublinbet? What times of the day?

[vbangle]

So when you're "down" 20 units then 40, that won't be a loss either right? Cause you could easily make that up in the next few days or weeks right?

You said it never loses. lol

I'm sorry The Goal, but you just don't come off as credible.

You made some rather big claims and have yet to even begin to back them up. You're first session with daytrader was a joke.

Until you can back it up all you are doing is damaging your own reputation on this board, until no one, not even the most gullible will believe you.

[Thegoal]

So when you're "down" 20 units then 40, that won't be a loss either right? Cause you could easily make that up in the next few days or weeks right?

You said it never loses. lol

I'm sorry The Goal, but you just don't come off as credible.

You made some rather big claims and have yet to even begin to back them up. You're first session with daytrader was a joke.

Until you can back it up all you are doing is damaging your own reputation on this board, until no one, not even the most gullible will believe you.

First, what makes you think we'll be down 20-40 units? lol. Second, find the post where I stated the system never has a draw down, and also, where I stated, the system never loses a bet, or a shoe, or a session. I'll search for it myself. I stated when first coming here, it never busts out of a 50 unit bankroll, you average 5-10 units a shoe, I've never lost my starting bankroll, and am up personally a large amount of units. Those are my introductory words almost verbatim. I'm honestly, vbangle, which I will restate, not here trying to build a reputation. I came here for one thing and already got it. Only claims I made, were how successful I've been personally with my system and how I wanted to partner up with someone to make bigger money. I definitely didn't claim it never loses. However, I did state, I've never lost my bankroll using it. I guess it is a joke...considering I didn't use a wild progression, to try to make 35 units, and double take day trader into thinking I had something that worked, only to have it lose in the long run. You're right...it is a slow, slow, slow profit building joke.

Sorry if I don't seem credible. But, in all honesty, you can't go partial way with any investment, and cast a judgment. Any savvy experienced investor will tell you. So, judging my system by only two shoes...in such a full throttle negative force such as you are doing? Only shows a few things about you. Nothing about me or my system. In any case, day trader, should he continue with me, should be able to post his long term experience with the system. But, if he, or you, or whoever choses to judge the system by two shoes? There's nothing I can do.

[Thegoal]

The Goal- When are you going to play on dublinbet? What times of the day?

Only when doing trials. But, honestly, I'm done doing trials. I'm only doing them for day trader, then that stuffs over.

[Joker]

well, mr thgoal you must be very confident winning...

i mean if you did not have confident you would not ask people to play with you....

and in a way you are nice enough to help others to win....

I guess you are doing what financial adviser is dong.. just like you put this stock and you can win money.....

but we all have to know nothing is 100%.... you may not want to fail to mention about the risk as well.. well, those who invest should know that as well....

i am not saying about you.... but I lost bit of money because i let this guy play baccarat for me.... and he didn't give me any money back.....

and he told me "with me.. you will never lose...." well... thank to me.. he taught me great lesson in life.... lol.....

after that i thought about it for several things... even we win... we have share the winning.. which is maybe 1000 me 1000 him.. we are happy to go home.. but that's nothing... i mean 1000 isn't nothing.. unless i can win consistently.... and if i lose.. which i did.. he did not lose anything.. that's not fair.....

well, one thing i was okay about this incident was he didn't take money... when we lost money he didn't gain anything.....

this is my guess.. i am very certain.. some of the customer gave him hard time.. maybe sue him or something like that.. i didn't do it.. but I am sure some other people must have got pissed off....

well, mr. thegoal... ultimately this is gambling.. not even mutual funds... risk is greater.. i hope you sign something before you ask for partner.. make sure they know the risk... if you said it is 100% then they can bring this case bigger you know.... just to protect yourself.. may not hurt you...

[steve6969]

day teader you havent posted i was wondering what happend with you and the goal

[Profbac]

Guys, please go to my new thread "working with Partners or Backers".

Maybe we can make this informative and educational.

[pitty1]

I bet theGoal took his money..chopped him up and put him in the trash like u see on true crime t.v.

[joshky]

Lol, good one, pitty1.

[vbangle]

All the TheGoal's hype sort of fizzled out didn't it. I can see Bugs Bunny in one of his post WWII cartoons hitting shells with a hammer....just like this whole ordeal. We hit it with a hammer and it didn't go off....dud.

[daytrader]

after the two shoes and being down, I never heard from him again......

[vbangle]

after the two shoes and being down, I never heard from him again......

Of course. You didn't fall for the scam and "loan" him 10k.

He's on to his next victim.

I know that you are probably disappointed but you should consider yourself a very lucky person.

[daytrader]

Of course. You didn't fall for the scam and "loan" him 10k.

He's on to his next victim.

I know that you are probably disappointed but you should consider yourself a very lucky person.

ya what can you do....if you have a good system let me know!

[Joker]

hey daytrader.. how much did you lose??

well.. it is good lesson i guess.. i went through also....

and actually it is better that you didn't win becasue if you did win money then you would bet more and more.. then that's get more dangerous....


about the system? i don't think any system can win everytime.. people talk about key is money management.. but even that not that easy... nothing will 100% gurantee to make the money...

And i really don't know exactly how money management really will work... to be honest...

because say...you use flat bet... and you lose 10 units... and try to get back 10 unit with flat bet is so tough to do....

so you must find something which will give you 60% or higher hitting rate.. has to be... and has to be consistent hitting rate...

and that's Bryan system claim to be... and actually i know few used system before and told me works.....

What I also practice right now is tennis bet... if odds are very close.. like 50/50 then I do lots of research then I can kind of figure out who will win and etc.. surface and injury report... of cource I can't hit 100% i do pertty good.. and I think i like about sports betting is that I don't have to go to casino... I don't have to deal with people or long wait... I am trying to get 60% winnig rate as well... i am still practicing... i won't bet any money until things go well.. and find good money management.....

[vbangle]

Only when doing trials. But, honestly, I'm done doing trials. I'm only doing them for day trader, then that stuffs over.

Complete liar.

[Thegoal]

Complete liar.

Oh yeah?

What makes me a liar?



And day trader....when's the last time you tried to contact me to do more shoes? Or were you just planning to just the system by 2 shoes on a free bet account and then talk negatively about it online? I'm very busy and am not intentionally NOT chasing you down to do more test shoes. If you really wanted to continue the trial, all you had to do was contact me. But, as I assumed, you preferred to do this online stuff here on this forum.

I honestly don't know why. But, I can't fight with you.

[Joker]

hey mr. thegoal.. my honest opinion is you are too nice....

you have system will win for sure and you are letting people know about it...

if i had such a system.. i would be very hesitante to share about that...

i would not even find some who has money... if i can make own

[vbangle]

Oh yeah?

What makes me a liar?

Read the complete thread.

Poor TheGoal, no more potential suckers to take advantage of. Oh well.

Maybe you should try elsewhere.

*hint* the entire forum is on to you. Time to go away.

[Joker]

maybe another example....

if you know the winning lottery number.. would you share to other people?

thank you

[Thegoal]

Read the complete thread.

Poor TheGoal, no more potential suckers to take advantage of. Oh well.

Maybe you should try elsewhere.

*hint* the entire forum is on to you. Time to go away.

Why poor thegoal? I am not looking for anything here. lol, I don't post here anymore. Once in a while, if I see something like this.

I would like to continue conversations with guys like archer, john, garnabby, john123, guys who are diligently trying to beat the game of baccarat. We can help each other keep beating it!

I don't think you've read the entire post yourself vbangle.

[Joker]

mr.. Thegoal i love your passion... but why do you have to find partner to play... i mean.. you can win by youself....

i don't think you need sponsor.... not like your system require $1 million to start right?

[steve6969]

Hasaan Steel

1375 Ocean Ave Apt 1J
Brooklyn New York 11230
United States of America
Phone: (347) 679-4072
Web Address:

Category: Bait-and-Switch

Submitted: Thursday, May 20, 2010

Posted: Thursday, May 20, 2010

All of the baccarat system offers on the Las Vegas Craig's list under financial services are a scam. A punk out of Brooklyn, NY by the name of Hasaan R. Steel is behind all of them. I paid him $500. for one of them ( the "The most Powerful Approach To Baccarat ad) and it was a total joke. Didn't hold up for even 20 shoes. Don't fall for his BS. He is a snake that needs to be stopped. He has been involved in many scams to include baccarat, roulette, and sports betting pool scams. He screwed a bunch of people out of money in a sports betting pool scam:

MASSIVE SCAM BY Cars&Money. He deleted the thread - Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum

He only takes payment via bank wire. Says he is afraid of PayPal because of all of the "horror stories" he has heard. He probably had his PayPal account shut down because of his fraud.

He emailed me a money back guarantee and failed to honor it.

His stupid "system" is simple: If 3 cards draw out on both banker and player the next bet is on the side that won. If 3 cards draw on out on one side and 2 on the other bet on the side that has 3. Use a 1-2 progression. Total bull

[steve6969]

here you go daytrader i found this under some scam forum the goal is a fruad asked you for ten grand and said it was a test my ass mother fucker

[pitty1]

Thanks steve 6969..for posting anothers personal experience with Hussien..Hussien must have really pissed this guy off ..good detective work guy...another common trait that spots scammers a mile away are the incredible excuse they come up with....one after another.. His system.. the bet on the best last 2 out of three huh..Give me 10 grands Hussien and if i win ..i'll give u your money back...i promise.

[daytrader]

I knew he was a piece of shit who lived with his parents in their basement. When he fucked me over with the foxwood stories, that was it for me....

[Thegoal]

lol

My parents basement day trader?

Read the post. That's an apartment. You are welcome to come to the apartment and see that there is not even a basement in the facility.

By the way, that post on craigslist is by a false disgruntled customer. Of an older system I sold for a friend of mine. And he claimed a loss, as part of the policy, he is supposed to prove that there was a loss, by doing 10-12 lives shoes, using the system to prove it was a loss before getting a refund. That is part of the policy and he knows it. What did he do? Go through 3 of the shoes, and then demand his refund. Not happening. The policy is 10-12, FREE live shoes, showing a loss, and a then a full no questions asked refund.

All he had to do was sit through 9 more shoes. How hard is that? What did he do? Resort to low class, childish insults, and threats...and of course, posting on craigslist. lol...the peasants shall always swim in the same sea. Anybodies address information can be found online. Anyone with an issue is more than welcome to come to my apartment (excuse me, my basement, lol) and discuss it with me.

[sevenshooter]

Let's focus more on the topic of Baccarat and less on the players, themselves.

[Thegoal]

Thanks steve 6969..for posting anothers personal experience with Hussien..Hussien must have really pissed this guy off ..good detective work guy...another common trait that spots scammers a mile away are the incredible excuse they come up with....one after another.. His system.. the bet on the best last 2 out of three huh..Give me 10 grands Hussien and if i win ..i'll give u your money back...i promise.

If you meet me in person, we can do this.

And of course, there is more to the system than this guy posted. That is why most of the world is unsuccessful, low class, and negative. Most gamblers are degenerate failures, and/or people who have been rejected from the normal crowd because they are too ignorant and unable (due to lack of creativity and imagination) to do anything else with their lives. The policy was clear. You must prove and show the loss, through a very painless method of sitting through 10-12 shoes on the live FREE play, that was done during the trial before you buy routine. It didn't have to be 12 in one day. Could be 3 one day, 4 one day, 5 one day, etc. If it documented a loss in 12 shoes? Money fully refunded. The reason for the policy is to make sure the EXACT stop losses are being used, and the EXACT exit routine is being upheld. Very simple.

But, a simple minded, immature, impatient, individual such as this one here, will react the way he did.