Thread: WARNING: Watch out for THEGOAL

Ok, where do I begin......

I contacted thegoal (HASAAN) last week in regards to his system and asked him if he would be willing to mentor me or go partners, because he has posted that he has a super system. He responded by saying we could partner up, I meet him at a casino, I bet big and follow his plays, he gets 50% of the money.

I said sure thing. Then, I get a message for him (which is in my inbox) where he begins to tell me he daytrades and yada, yada, yada and asks me for 10k to borrow for a few days and I can stay at his house! I was like what the FUKK (I know, red flags were popping off in my mind). I responded by saying, we dont know each other, etc. Lets do this baccarat thing and see how it goes and IF ITS AS GOOD AS HE TOUTS, we can make an easy 10k this weekend.

He says fine, we will meet at Foxwoods this weekend. I call him, we talk, we get everything setup for Saturday around 12-1pm. We talk Friday night and he says he will meet me at the scheduled time, hes going to bed (staying there).

So, I get up at 6am, and send him a text message at 7am saying I am on the road (3.5 hour drive one way for me). All of a sudden at 9am or 915, I am an hour away, he sends me a message saying (which I have all of them on my phone) that he had a FAMILY EMERGENCY and had to leave!

I respond by saying I am an hour away. NO RESPONSE FROM HIM. I get to the casino, its now 11, noon, 1pm and no response from him. I then write him and say, way to go, you f-ing scammed me good, I cant wait to post this shit on the forums. MAGICALLY, I get a call from him, like within 30 seconds of me sending him that text and more than 3-4 HOURS since he left me hanging.

He says he will leave in a few hours and meet me, he feels bad I am there and he had to leave (well we all know he never, ever went there in the first place). So, its 530pm now, he says he an hour away. 630 he says hes 25 minutes away. Now, its 9pm and no Hasaan. I message him again and say I am fukking leaving, hes a no good piece of shit, I will post this so (NO ONE ELSE GETS SCAMMED BY THIS PIECE OF SHIT) and falls for his supposed METHOD that is non-existant. HE writes me and says, SHIT HAPPENS MAN, I GOT INTO A CAR ACCIDENT ON THE WAY!!! LMAO.

Can you believe this fukking guy? Anyways, stay far, far, far away from this guy. I was gullible in thinking this guy had the holy grail and we could make alot of money. If this guy takes 500 and makes 1k a day on baccarat and is up 10-15k as he claims, why doesnt he step it up? Foxwoods casino has 30-40 baccarat tables on the main floor, its a madhouse, the supervisors and pit bosses have no idea wtf is going on and them asians bet like crazy. No way they would be watching this piss pot guy who is trying to make a few hundred.

And he asks me for 10k to borrow because hes a daytrader and he trades for a friend and something about clients he has to show him this and that, I have the message if anyone wants to read it line by line.

Bottom line, the internet forums are filled with quacks. Hasaan Steel or whatever his name is, is definately one of them. Please, DONT FALL for his BULLSHIT threads where he talks a big talk but never ever produces nothing and ruined a whole fukking day of mine. I got home at 130am last night, driving 550 miles total. Hes a nice guy, a real class act.

I think hes about 21, lives with his parents in his basement and gets off on talking to people about his susper money maker system that is magic.

Oh ya, one last laugh for you....He responds to me saying he only asked me for 10k because it was a TEST!!! LMAO< I seriously fell off the chair when I seen that one. Wtf kind of test!

Hasaan, your a legend in your own mind. Have fun in never, never land.

Here we go....

First of all. I asked you for $10k for the deal as a test. To see what kind of person you were before I met you. This is a casino system I meeting you to show you. You can be ANYONE. I'm not afraid....but you could easily have been a casino shill. I have a winning system...the casinos will do ANYTHING to stop that. I've made over $13k with my system, and I make a very good living day trading, ...trust me, I did not need the $10k.

Second. How can I be a scammer, when I never got anything from you without giving you something in return? I am not selling my system. Nor am I touting any investment program.

21, living at home with my parents? My man,....I am not 21 years old. You claim to trade millions of dollars, but, when I'm late to the casino (I have a family with two children, THINGS COME UP....which is why I work the casino on MY schedule, not yours) you flip out on me, threatening to post about me on this forum??? And I'm the "child"? You've got to be kidding me.

If you really trade millions as you say? You'd be patient, savvy, and bit more understanding. You lose patience like that in day trading? It's game over. Obviously you don't day trade. I can tell, from talking to you, that you sound a lot older than you really are.....and trust me, if I lived at home with my parents, in my basement? I wouldn't be inviting you to come visit me at my home. That was part of the test as well. If you really would come meet me at my home, and we go to the casino from there, then you have a lot more balls than a bullshit casino shill, and I would feel more comfortable partnering up with you.

Bottom line, I will not just go and MEET someone, without putting them through tests....in regards to a WORKING casino gambling system. Use your brain and your imagination and you'd understand why. Look, I understand you are frustrated,....you went to the casino, waited on me, and lost $1000 playing black jack. But to flip out like this? Totally shows you are not the person you claim to be.

The accident I got into was very minor....but the claim and the police report take time. Any body knows that. It was a simple side collision, that did very little damage to either vehicle.' By the way, the drive is 3 hours for me as well. I drove 3 hours back for my family emergency AND, as soon as that was done, RUSHED back to the casino on your behalf. I bet you'd be too immature to do anything like that?

Oh, another thing. The text message thing is very false. I received your text message at 9am, and responded at 915 am that I have a family emergency and have to leave the casino. I still have the message on my phone, and the time received is 9am. If you go to the casino, and speak to ANY of the dealers or pit bosses there, and ask them about "Mr. steel".....trust me, they will tell you who I am.

Here's another thing, that proves to me how young and inexperienced you really are. If you really think, that a non asian, such as myself, can walk into a casino, FULL of other bettors, and consistently make a few hundred to a few thousand a day, and they don't care? Or notice? You are lost! You obviously know absolutely nothing. The pitbosses notice losing a consistent $10 every day. Trust me. Ask anyone who plays professionally, how much extra work they need to do to stay under the radar. Like I said, you keep proving how impatient and un savvy you are. If I would step it up and go for making $2000-$3000 a day, I would get booted out in no time. Use your brain kid. I don't believe you trade millions. Nor do I believe you actually have the $5000 we were going to use at the casino. That is why you kept wanting to start smaller. It's ok, there is NO need to impress me. I am here to help, not take your money.

You still want to partner up at the casino? No problem. I'm not a petty child as you are acting. But if you prefer this? Posting a rant on a baccarat forum? That has no effect on my life.....by all means, more power to you.

I do feel bad that you did make that drive to the casino, if you actually did. That is why I responded to this post, and am still willing to extend that offer to you. I actually feel bad about the $1000 you lost, if you actually did, and would like to help you recover it with my baccarat system....in person, at the casino.

Since you already put the whole pms out in the forum...no need to pm anymore. lol,....let's make another date to meet.

Originally Posted by Thegoal

I have a winning system...the casinos will do ANYTHING to stop that.

First, I don't want to side with anybody.

But, if somebody mention that casinos will do ANYTHING to stop you from winning regularly, then, you need to read that again.

Same thing as what Ellis claimed before that the pitboss is watching his play, betting $25 unit bet.


I been playing for the past 18 years, in which 15 years full time. Unless you tell me that casino in Asia is more lenient than US, if going by what you guys claimed, I should be banned at least 10 years ago.

Originally Posted by Bryan

First, I don't want to side with anybody.

But, if somebody mention that casinos will do ANYTHING to stop you from winning regularly, then, you need to read that again.

Same thing as what Ellis claimed before that the pitboss is watching his play, betting $25 unit bet.


I been playing for the past 18 years, in which 15 years full time. Unless you tell me that casino in Asia is more lenient than US, if going by what you guys claimed, I should be banned at least 10 years ago.

You're either lying, or not being realistic. Do you play at foxwoods, or vegas? They ban people.

Daytrader...This has all the interest of a typical true crime story..Guy lures u on the internet..Invites u to his house..Knows u have 10K..Wack..keeps ur money and chops u up for mondays trash pickup.It would be scary to see the crime statistics of all the winners who are followed home from the casino and rolled for an easy BR..

Originally Posted by pitty1

Daytrader...This has all the interest of a typical true crime story..Guy lures u on the internet..Invites u to his house..Knows u have 10K..Wack..keeps ur money and chops u up for mondays trash pickup.It would be scary to see the crime statistics of all the winners who are followed home from the casino and rolled for an easy BR..

Of course, because he was the one at risk. lol. I was meeting him for valuable information on how to win at the casino, which I could have followed him back to his car, to rough him up, to force him to give to me.

Obviously.

That's an outrageous scenario, but, funny.

Thanks for the warning ... there will always be people who will take advantage of one's naivety if only to earn some money. A**ho**s are everywhere ...be careful guys!

To all:

Like I said in my earlier statements, dont believe what you read on here about people with these amazing systems and then they stand you up.

Hasaan, do you really think everyone takes what you say at face value? You think Im going to go to the casino with 10-20k and just start following you blindly with absoluetly no proof besides your word (which we all know is shit now) and just start firing away?

Of course I wanted to to smaller and smaller as the shit you were slinging piled up higher and higher and higher and you got me nervous to the point where I wanted to risk as little as possible, then get ahead and then use the casinos money.

You came off as a legit guy and ended up being a CROOK.

As far as me trading millions a day, I told you before, put your money where your mouth is and I will gladly furnish my account info showing what I trade.

Unlike you, I walk the walk. You not only lost a potential backer for baccarat, you lost a potential in stocks.

You obviously have no idea about daytrading and what margin is or buying power. I trade millions, sometimes 50 million a day. That doesnt mean I have that kind of money. Do yourself a favor and google margin or buying power, look up and see what a "prop" firm is, not a retail firm like the Ameritrade that you use. I trade where you need a series 7 license (again look it up), I traded 50mm many of times and my friend has traded 100mm a day ) again, you dont have that actual money, its called margin, it shows your ignorance in trading and in real life...you are the kid here my friend and you got called out and I want everyone here to see how you tried to fleece 10k from me and then stood me up while yapping about your holy grail system.

What you did was 100% WRONG. I drove 7 hours, 550 miles and you wasted an entire day for me. I live near the turning stone casino here in upstate NY, they have 4 baccarat tables. 25 minimum. IF you want to drive 3.5 hours up here to show me this system or whatever, be my guest.

www.turningstone.com

Otherwise, have a nice life and others take heed of what I have said.....

Originally Posted by WingTip

Thanks for the warning ... there will always be people who will take advantage of one's naivety if only to earn some money. A**ho**s are everywhere ...be careful guys!

yes sir, One thing I will say is the member here BRYAN, is a stand up guy. He has provided me with ALOT of free advice and info about his system. He has NEVER, EVER asked for 1 penney EVEN AFTER I OFFERED TO PAY HIM TO MENTOR ME!!!!

Hes a LEGIT person.

Originally Posted by daytrader

To all:

Like I said in my earlier statements, dont believe what you read on here about people with these amazing systems and then they stand you up.

Hasaan, do you really think everyone takes what you say at face value? You think Im going to go to the casino with 10-20k and just start following you blindly with absoluetly no proof besides your word (which we all know is shit now) and just start firing away?

Of course I wanted to to smaller and smaller as the shit you were slinging piled up higher and higher and higher and you got me nervous to the point where I wanted to risk as little as possible, then get ahead and then use the casinos money.

You came off as a legit guy and ended up being a CROOK.

As far as me trading millions a day, I told you before, put your money where your mouth is and I will gladly furnish my account info showing what I trade.

Unlike you, I walk the walk. You not only lost a potential backer for baccarat, you lost a potential in stocks.

You obviously have no idea about daytrading and what margin is or buying power. I trade millions, sometimes 50 million a day. That doesnt mean I have that kind of money. Do yourself a favor and google margin or buying power, look up and see what a "prop" firm is, not a retail firm like the Ameritrade that you use. I trade where you need a series 7 license (again look it up), I traded 50mm many of times and my friend has traded 100mm a day ) again, you dont have that actual money, its called margin, it shows your ignorance in trading and in real life...you are the kid here my friend and you got called out and I want everyone here to see how you tried to fleece 10k from me and then stood me up while yapping about your holy grail system.

What you did was 100% WRONG. I drove 7 hours, 550 miles and you wasted an entire day for me. I live near the turning stone casino here in upstate NY, they have 4 baccarat tables. 25 minimum. IF you want to drive 3.5 hours up here to show me this system or whatever, be my guest.

www.turningstone.com

Otherwise, have a nice life and others take heed of what I have said.....

You again display how much of a kid and a "day trading liar" you are. I never said anything about you having millions. All I said is you don't day trade millions. You really don't. Not with THAT little patience. I would shoot myself in the foot before letting you day trade ANY of my money. ESPECIALLY with margin. You've got to be kidding me. With that kind of personality, that kind of patience, and that kind of petty immaturity? IF someone is letting you trade their "millions" WITH margin and leverage? (I do know what margin is silly), they must NOT know much about you...OR, you conned them into believing you are someone you are not.

I drove the SAME amount of time you did. I honestly don't care what you post here. I only responded because I am still willing to extend the offer of partnering up with you at the casino to make your $1000 back. Yeah, I do still care about that. No matter how much of a petty child you are being. You have no integrity my friend. And I HIGHLY doubt you do what you say. I am not going to show you my system to impress you and I don't need your "bank statement" to be impressed by you.

Put your "legitimacy" where your mouth is, and let's go to the casino. As a matter of fact, sure, I'll drive to your casino in yonkers. Give me a call, and let's setup the date, so you don't have to drive to foxwoods again. You have my number.

It's your decision. If you prefer to rant on here, I rest my case. lol,... I'm not showing you the system in anyway. And what did you have to risk? What made you think I was going to say "Now place a $1000 wager"....??? With a $10k bankroll? I seriously doubt you even have that kind of money now....but we'll see. You want to do the partnering thing at your local casino? Give me a call. I'm really looking to just recover your $1000 you lost playing black jack while you waited for me, for you (since it was enough of a loss for you to come on here to rant). Honestly, right now, you've proven to me that you are the opposite of someone who is savvy, patient, seasoned, and makes a lot of money. You're actually acting like an inexperienced kid, who may know how to trade, but, hasn't been really making a lot of money for a long enough time yet. You actually come off as a kid who gets a big allowance once a week, who googled about margin and day trading. Just so you can post all that information here, sound smart, put words in my mouth, and tell me I'm "ignorant". lol

I thought this was an interesting story, so I thought I would put my two cents in.

1. I play at Foxwoods about once every six weeks. They do watch people,
they are said to have the toughest surveillance on the east coast (USA). I have been watched, "interviewed" by surveillance and told
a) you can play as long as we don't suspect you are part of a team, and
b) don't bet a spread more than 20x your minimum.
I have also had some of my biggest losing sessions at Foxwoods, which may also be why they let me play.

2. Ellis has said that he has seen people cheated there. I don't know Ellis,
but I would believe that about Foxwood.

3. There have been numerous scams and cheating rings at Foxwoods. Look that up on the internet.

4. I personally have been approached by people in different casinos
to partner up or learn what I was doing. This usually happens after players see my get heat from the casinos. In every case I walked away glad that I didn't get involved with the people who approached me.
They all had serious money, but in each case they were dangerous people to get involved with.

Hey Pitty, they've got half your book written already!

The Goal, you have have broken many hearts here who wanted to believe that you were the real deal. This may answer why your mm and win targets may seem to good to be true.

Daytrader, sorry to hear that you have being let down this way.

Originally Posted by joshky

The Goal, you have have broken many hearts here who wanted to believe that you were the real deal. This may answer why your mm and win targets may seem to good to be true.

Daytrader, sorry to hear that you have being let down this way.

Exactly. his wins come in fantasy land where all his dreams come true and he hits 100% wins. BUT he bets to make 500 or 1k? LOL and wants to borrow 10k? And hes a daytrader but needs money? WTF does he need a partner for? If I had the golden goose do you think I would look for a partner unless I was broke? What for? Makes no sense......

He tricked me, guess I was easy for him!

Lesson to be learned, if it sounds to good to be true, IT IS!

Originally Posted by Thegoal

You're either lying, or not being realistic. Do you play at foxwoods, or vegas? They ban people.

I felt sorry for you. No doubt that casino might ban player who win big, but, you are telling us that casino will ban you because you are winning 1k daily? Try telling that to all baccarat players around the world, I guess all will quit playing immediately to make way for you.

Originally Posted by pitty1

Daytrader...This has all the interest of a typical true crime story..Guy lures u on the internet..Invites u to his house..Knows u have 10K..Wack..keeps ur money and chops u up for mondays trash pickup.It would be scary to see the crime statistics of all the winners who are followed home from the casino and rolled for an easy BR..

To be frank, this is one of the most important reason why I don't agreed to playing live together with fellow players from this forum.

And if anyone is offended by what I said, please accept my sincere apology. I just want to be safe.

Originally Posted by daytrader

yes sir, One thing I will say is the member here BRYAN, is a stand up guy. He has provided me with ALOT of free advice and info about his system. He has NEVER, EVER asked for 1 penney EVEN AFTER I OFFERED TO PAY HIM TO MENTOR ME!!!!

Hes a LEGIT person.

Thanks for offering me the chance to work together with you, I guess now you know why I won't take up your offers

Originally Posted by Bryan

I felt sorry for you. No doubt that casino might ban player who win big, but, you are telling us that casino will ban you because you are winning 1k daily? Try telling that to all baccarat players around the world, I guess all will quit playing immediately to make way for you.

Read profbac's post.

Casinos watch anyone who win consistently. Especially at foxwoods. But I will not sit here and try to convince you otherwise. Win $1000-$2000 a day for a month or two, consistently, and see what happens.

By the way, day trader, you have proven yourself to be a child. I came on here looking for a partner because one, it may be easier on myself to work with a partner, so we could stay under the radar better as a team. And two, we can be each other's body guards. I don't need the money. Day trader, get real, please.

I'm not here to convince anyone. I am already going to be showing a few members the system works on dublinbet, who I will be profiting with, with online play. So I guess you guys can get your proof there.

Originally Posted by Thegoal

Read profbac's post.

Casinos watch anyone who win consistently. Especially at foxwoods. But I will not sit here and try to convince you otherwise. Win $1000-$2000 a day for a month or two, consistently, and see what happens.

By the way, day trader, you have proven yourself to be a child. I came on here looking for a partner because one, it may be easier on myself to work with a partner, so we could stay under the radar better as a team. And two, we can be each other's body guards. I don't need the money. Day trader, get real, please.

I'm not here to convince anyone. I am already going to be showing a few members the system works on dublinbet, who I will be profiting with, with online play. So I guess you guys can get your proof there.

How am I a child because I exposed you for what you are? A PIECE OF SHIT FRAUD? WHo in the right mind asks someone for 10k without knowing them and then agrees to meet them at a casino and then STANDS THEM UP? Whos the child here? Your a complete worthless piece of shit and you were exposed for that.

If you had such a great system, why the fuck do you need backers unless your broke which obviously you are after asking me for 10k. There are thousands of casinos across the USA, travel to each one everyday for a few years, with your no loss system, you will bank millions in no time. Then, hit up vegas and bet 100k a hand and you can have tens of millions.

Tell your stories to people in fantasy land and people who are thinking about this guy, tread CAREFULLYYYYYYYYYY.

My next post will be the one about you asking me via PM to borrow 10k and I can stay at your house with your wife and kids. Im sure people will get a CHUCKLE out of that one!

As promised, thegoal asking me for 10k....

********** "Right now I use $500 to make $1000 a day. Some days I make as high as $2000.

The casinos are giving me real heat not, because I am a winning player.

Let's go to foxwoods. With $5000, I can make $10000 a day ($5k a piece), using $250 units. As I use $25 units with a $500 bankroll.

I have something else that may be profitable. This is a huge long shot and a shot in the dark.

This is parallel to the baccarat thing. But, here's my deal.

I have an investor who will invest $200k into me for me to day trade with. I am a day trader....and I get investors every now and then who come in for a few months with big money then take their money out.

I need to show this guy that I am getting investments of $10k or higher and he will invest $200k with me.

If you could loan me $10k until monday, I will return it with $15k, once he invests the $200k with me. He just needs to see money in the amounts of $10k going in and out of my account for the next 2-3 days. I will also give you 20% of the profits I make off of his $200k. I can make up to 10-20% a week trading futures and stocks. I have been doing it since I was 15. I built up trust with this guy, by making him money. I turned $50k of his into $100k. $20k of his into $80k. He is ready to give me big money. But it must be structured his way.

He will invest the $200k in me for 1 year, and I only have to pay him $20k a month on the money!! I will make at least $20-$40k a week off of that money...and share 20% of that with you!

You can say no. And we can still go do the baccarat thing asap.

Give me a call 347 679 XXXX (Hasaan) *****(out of respect for your family, in case you do have one, I took out your phone #)*****

If we can do the $200k thing, we can have the investment by monday...and then do the baccarat thing then.

OR we can do the baccarat thing this weekend, and make bank.

I am in brooklyn new york. Meeting you at ANYTIME is no problem. Since you are local....you can even stay at my house, until I pay you back the $10k loan. Meet my family, my kid....trust me, I am not trying to rip you off. I just need this bridge to get the $200k.

BUT, if you just want to do the baccarat thing...that is fine. I am NOT petty"*********

(END OF STORY.....................)

I drive 3.5 hours to foxwoods and this guy stands me up! Swell guy, real swell guy.......

lol,

What exactly do you think you accomplished in the WORLD posting our pms?

In any event. Like I said, we drove the same distance. Sorry you had to cut out because you couldn't wait any longer. I sent you a text minutes after receiving your text that I had a family emergency. You posting most of my cell? But you leave out the last 4 digits out of respect for my family? "paul", I don't think that really shows any integrity. First of all, coming onto a public forum, to rant and complain about something personal, already exposes how much of a fraud and a child you are. Obviously, since that is who you really are, you don't see that.

Day trader, the only thing you actually accomplished, if anything, is how much a fraud you are about who you are. You are not a day trader, and you do not day trade millions.

Notice the particular comment "You can say no and we can still go do the baccarat thing"..... it was merely a test silly. You would either say no, or, be turned off. If you were turned off, then that would tell me a few things about you. I will use a test on anyone that wants to go to the casino with me. You have zero experience if you think you can go to a casino, bet $100k a hand, win consistently, and still be able to bounce from casino and casino doing that particular thing. You know nothing.

Not once did I post here stating I needed backers. I want to PARTNER up with someone. lol, day trader, I hope you realize you are only accomplishing exposing how foolish you are. And that you are not who you say you are. I expected it to have some effect, but, it hasn't, had any effect on those who have read your posts, and still are going to partner up with me. I met someone at fox woods last night, who reads this forum, and thinks you're a fool. AND, that person ACTUALLY did come with $5000 as they said, and not $1000. He's a wealthy guy and acts accordingly.

Good luck with your endeavors day trader, I have nothing against you and am still willing to partner with you in order to help you recover the $1000 you lost playing black jack while you waited for me.

Originally Posted by Thegoal

lol,

What exactly do you think you accomplished in the WORLD posting our pms?

In any event. Like I said, we drove the same distance. Sorry you had to cut out because you couldn't wait any longer. I sent you a text minutes after receiving your text that I had a family emergency. You posting most of my cell? But you leave out the last 4 digits out of respect for my family? "paul", I don't think that really shows any integrity. First of all, coming onto a public forum, to rant and complain about something personal, already exposes how much of a fraud and a child you are. Obviously, since that is who you really are, you don't see that.

Day trader, the only thing you actually accomplished, if anything, is how much a fraud you are about who you are. You are not a day trader, and you do not day trade millions.

Notice the particular comment "You can say no and we can still go do the baccarat thing"..... it was merely a test silly. You would either say no, or, be turned off. If you were turned off, then that would tell me a few things about you. I will use a test on anyone that wants to go to the casino with me. You have zero experience if you think you can go to a casino, bet $100k a hand, win consistently, and still be able to bounce from casino and casino doing that particular thing. You know nothing.

Not once did I post here stating I needed backers. I want to PARTNER up with someone. lol, day trader, I hope you realize you are only accomplishing exposing how foolish you are. And that you are not who you say you are. I expected it to have some effect, but, it hasn't, had any effect on those who have read your posts, and still are going to partner up with me. I met someone at fox woods last night, who reads this forum, and thinks you're a fool. AND, that person ACTUALLY did come with $5000 as they said, and not $1000. He's a wealthy guy and acts accordingly.

Good luck with your endeavors day trader, I have nothing against you and am still willing to partner with you in order to help you recover the $1000 you lost playing black jack while you waited for me.

I think you need psychological help. I really do. You didnt meet anyone at foxwoods last night, NOR did you even attempt to meet me at foxwoods.

My point of all of this is for everyone to see what a crackpot you really are. Your a fraud. Your broke. You have a make believe system. You live in fantasy world.

You claim Im not a daytrader, thats your opinion. I already told you once and I will tell you one more time. Read this part slowly and carefully. ready?.....Put your money where your mouth is and I will tell you #1, where I trade, #2, The # where I trade, #3, the authorization for them to verify what I trade.

All you have to do is call my bluff. I will put up any amount you want. Be a man and call me out.

Your a liar, a fraud and a scammer. I wouldnt partner with you IF you TOLD ME THE SYSTEM IN ADVANCE. You have proven to me your a fool.

My goal is and will be to make sure that you are exposed and no one goes through what I have went through.

Come to the turning stone casino if have this so called system. I will gamble with you there. If you want to man up and show some integrity and try and gain some respect, you will do that. I will gladly post the results on this forum.

And one last thing. Lets say im not a daytrader. Now what?

I asked you to mentor me or partner with me. You jumped on it. You then asked me for 10k in the very next message as everyone can read above. Then, I did my part and drove 3.5 hours and you were never there.

Do you really think we are to believe that all of a sudden you had a family emergency or on your way back you got into a car accident.

That it took you 4 HOURS to respond to a text message. You never asnwered the phone. You only texted me within 30 seconds AFTER I SAID I WAS COMING HERE TO EXPOSE YOU, that GOT YOUR ATTENTION AND YOU JUMPED TO TRY AND SAVE FACE which eventually backfired as you just kept on making up stories.
Holy shit, think about what your saying.

I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale, REALLY CHEAP, you interested?

Karma is a bitch my friend, joking about family emergencies and car accidents will catch up to you someday. That's guaranteed.

Oh ya, and you say I couldnt wait no longer, you messaged me at 9pm saying you got into a car accident after I been waiting since 1030am, LMAO. WHY WOULD I WAIT YOU FUCKING CLOWN WHEN YOU SAID YOU GOT INTO A CAR ACCIDENT!? YOU JUST GOT EXPOSED AGAIN WITH YOUR TALES! ALL YOU DO IS LIE, LIE, and then LIE some more. You have so many lies going you have no idea.

I have every text message, should I post them too?

Originally Posted by daytrader

I think you need psychological help. I really do. You didnt meet anyone at foxwoods last night, NOR did you even attempt to meet me at foxwoods.

My point of all of this is for everyone to see what a crackpot you really are. Your a fraud. Your broke. You have a make believe system. You live in fantasy world.

You claim Im not a daytrader, thats your opinion. I already told you once and I will tell you one more time. Read this part slowly and carefully. ready?.....Put your money where your mouth is and I will tell you #1, where I trade, #2, The # where I trade, #3, the authorization for them to verify what I trade.

All you have to do is call my bluff. I will put up any amount you want. Be a man and call me out.

Your a liar, a fraud and a scammer. I wouldnt partner with you IF you TOLD ME THE SYSTEM IN ADVANCE. You have proven to me your a fool.

My goal is and will be to make sure that you are exposed and no one goes through what I have went through.

Come to the turning stone casino if have this so called system. I will gamble with you there. If you want to man up and show some integrity and try and gain some respect, you will do that. I will gladly post the results on this forum.

lol,

Something is wrong with you. In any case, I'm not going to resort to name calling, or entertain the madness you are portraying here, with mockery, and childish petty statements like "scammer". What I state is not an opinion, it is fact. You are not a day trader. Just because you trade "millions" does not make you a successful day trader. Even if you do, which I doubt.

I have no intention of gaining any "respect" from you. I already know, you are not a day trader, and don't have any real money. Just judging by how you act. If you do have any money? It is either loaned, or borrowed, and you are trying to make money off of it in a hurry. Which is why you were so upset about the $1000 you lost playing black jack while waiting for me. I feel for you man. Which is why I'm willing to meet with you to help you recover that. Regardless of your immature demeanor. I'm just doing you a favor...as it IS my fault, I had to leave the casino to go to new york and back (family emergency). If we go from there and do work as long term partners? Cool. But I really can't see that happen if you continue to act like this. It's very unprofessional. Anyway, give me a call, and we can set it up for me to come to your casino. But, if you prefer to continue the nonsense here on the forum, I don't see how we can do that.

Anyone I partner up with, including who I met at foxwoods, when they see fit, will post their experience.

Of course I was pissed about losing 1k playing blackjack. What else am I supposed to do in a casino while waiting about 10.5 hours? Just sit there? Of course I gambled and lost and to compound things, you never showed.

You think I would be happy? Yes, I was and am happy. I left at 7am, drove 3.5 hours, then proceeded to try and get in touch with you for 4 hours, then you say you will be there, 9pm comes and nothing, in between that time, I gambled and lost. Yes, I WAS SUPER HAPPY!

I dont have anything more to say about all of this. Everything I had to say is out there and my goal is to warn others about you and people out there like you.

I would never take a chance in driving 3.5 hours again (one way) to meet you because you could stand me up again and get another laugh on me. If you want to drive 3.5 hours to me, thats fine and I live 10 minutes from the casino here, I will be there. Tell ya what, I will even bring some account statements to show you for the "proof" that you need to show you I indeed trade.

One more thing, I know just about all the floor supervisors and pit bosses in the local casino here, I see many, many of people who gamble with orange chips (1k denomination) and win/lose 20k very fast.

If your system works, we will make 20k EASILY in 1 night or more. I will play 1k bets. You have a great opportunity here awaiting you, all you have to do is put up......

Originally Posted by daytrader

And one last thing. Lets say im not a daytrader. Now what?

I asked you to mentor me or partner with me. You jumped on it. You then asked me for 10k in the very next message as everyone can read above. Then, I did my part and drove 3.5 hours and you were never there.

Do you really think we are to believe that all of a sudden you had a family emergency or on your way back you got into a car accident.

That it took you 4 HOURS to respond to a text message. You never asnwered the phone. You only texted me within 30 seconds AFTER I SAID I WAS COMING HERE TO EXPOSE YOU, that GOT YOUR ATTENTION AND YOU JUMPED TO TRY AND SAVE FACE which eventually backfired as you just kept on making up stories.
Holy shit, think about what your saying.

I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale, REALLY CHEAP, you interested?

Karma is a bitch my friend, joking about family emergencies and car accidents will catch up to you someday. That's guaranteed.

Oh ya, and you say I couldnt wait no longer, you messaged me at 9pm saying you got into a car accident after I been waiting since 1030am, LMAO. WHY WOULD I WAIT YOU FUCKING CLOWN WHEN YOU SAID YOU GOT INTO A CAR ACCIDENT!? YOU JUST GOT EXPOSED AGAIN WITH YOUR TALES! ALL YOU DO IS LIE, LIE, and then LIE some more. You have so many lies going you have no idea.

I have every text message, should I post them too?

I wake up every week day at 8:30 am to begin my day trading. Early market research, to begin trading at 9:30 am. I turn my phone off every night, until I am up in the morning, so my kids, my fiance, and myself do NOT get disturbed in the middle of the night. We go to bed early and wake up early in my house. I keep the same habits when I travel. So, while at the casino, chances are, when you sent me the text that you were on the way, and I awoke to turning my phone on and not receiving it until 9am or so, it was possibly an error on both of our parts. My assuming that I got it at 9am, since that is the time it showed as received on my phone, and you assuming I already read it at 7am or whenever you sent it. I then received texts from my fiance about something important going on with our youngest son. So I immediately sent you a text in return stating I have to leave and will be back later. I left immediately, was in nyc longer than expected. Then, on my way back....had a minor side collision with a driver. Police report, insurance claim, takes a bit. It didn't take long....however, you had already started sending me texts, impatiently, and childishly threatening to post on the forum. I instantly called you, to tell you I don't have time to deal with nonsense, and that if you want to wait, I will rush back as soon as possible. You were ok with it at that moment....until you decided to kill time, and lose $1000 playing black jack.

Again, I do feel for you and am willing to work with you to recover that. Whether you are a day trader or not, immature or not, I don't hold that against you. If you would have just waited a bit longer, we could have met. It would have been worth the wait. Traffic gets heavy sometimes on the i95 to Connecticut, and add that with the minor collision I had, just added about an hour and a half to the travel time.

Originally Posted by daytrader

Of course I was pissed about losing 1k playing blackjack. What else am I supposed to do in a casino while waiting about 10.5 hours? Just sit there? Of course I gambled and lost and to compound things, you never showed.

You think I would be happy? Yes, I was and am happy. I left at 7am, drove 3.5 hours, then proceeded to try and get in touch with you for 4 hours, then you say you will be there, 9pm comes and nothing, in between that time, I gambled and lost. Yes, I WAS SUPER HAPPY!

I dont have anything more to say about all of this. Everything I had to say is out there and my goal is to warn others about you and people out there like you.

I would never take a chance in driving 3.5 hours again (one way) to meet you because you could stand me up again and get another laugh on me. If you want to drive 3.5 hours to me, thats fine and I live 10 minutes from the casino here, I will be there. Tell ya what, I will even bring some account statements to show you for the "proof" that you need to show you I indeed trade.

One more thing, I know just about all the floor supervisors and pit bosses in the local casino here, I see many, many of people who gamble with orange chips (1k denomination) and win/lose 20k very fast.

If your system works, we will make 20k EASILY in 1 night or more. I will play 1k bets. You have a great opportunity here awaiting you, all you have to do is put up......

Remember the system is a 1-2 progression. And I use a $500 bankroll to make $1000 a day. So that means you need 10-20 units. So, if you can handle making $2000 bets, and being down 2-3 units some times (rarely). So, you would need $10-$20k to make $1000 wagers. Can you handle that? If you can, then we can make some serious money in one night. Give me a call!

Originally Posted by Thegoal

Remember the system is a 1-2 progression. And I use a $500 bankroll to make $1000 a day. So that means you need 10-20 units. So, if you can handle making $2000 bets, and being down 2-3 units some times (rarely). So, you would need $10-$20k to make $1000 wagers. Can you handle that? If you can, then we can make some serious money in one night. Give me a call!

I forgot about that....There table max on a 25 is 1k but if I can get them to open a 50, that is 2k. Usually on the weekend they have 1 50. They only have 4 baccarat tables in their back room.

So if I bring 10k, we should be able to do 500 wagers right?

Originally Posted by daytrader

I forgot about that....There table max on a 25 is 1k but if I can get them to open a 50, that is 2k. Usually on the weekend they have 1 50. They only have 4 baccarat tables in their back room.

So if I bring 10k, we should be able to do 500 wagers right?

Correct. Give me a call and let's set it up. We should make $10-$20k.