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    Quote Originally Posted by Profbac View Post
    Yes, I am making a good deal of money at the end. The problem is
    1. I have already had warnings about not playing.
    2. There are only so many hours in a day.
    If I am alone at a minibac table, I can get through a shoe in 30 minutes. At a full Macau or midi or large bac table, it takes two to two and a half hours to play through a shoe, then 20 minutes to cahnge cards etc. I like to get through at least 10 shoes in a day.

    I am open to suggestions and ideas.
    If I were you, I would have chart the shoe from the sidelines and play the last 10 hands.

    I have never seen anyone playing alone at baccarat table over here. Maybe you are playing at smaller casino or clubs, over my side, there is no such situation. And you can play 10 shoes (or rather chart 10 shoes) from the sides in just a few hours because there are several tables playing concurrently.

    I don't go to casino and leave at end of the day. Normally, I will go on either Mon/Tue, stays for 2-3 days and play several sessions for a few hours each.

    A few advantages.

    I don't need to rush my bet as I am staying in the hotel above the casino. Anytime I hit a bad patch, I can just walk off and resume later.

    These are big resort casino and many people playing, so, I don't need to play every hand and if I don't sit at the table, I can move around and monitor several tables at one go and hit the table once I think it is favorable to me.

    I further divide my target unit into the session that I am going to play. It is more easier to achieve as well. Let's say 10 units per day is like 2unit each for 5 session. How difficult can it be to win 2 units?

    What you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper View Post
    Hello Bryan,

    Could you please kindly send me your trigger. I am interested to learn more about it. My email is sniper6138@yahoo.com.

    Thanks and Regards

    sniper
    Ok guys, I think I should have PM all my trigger list. If you yet to received, let me know again.

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    A few things.

    First, I have revised my trigger list after my recent casino trip because I have left out quite a few things. It is not that I intentionally left it out in the first place, but, it is more like I can't think of it initially.

    The trigger list that I send out last week is written ONLY last week because I never had the intention to tell anyone how to go about. It is only when I read this forum and find that many people are seeking for some ways to win and how some marketers preaching their system here that I decided to let you guys in about the way to bet in casino.

    The list last week is what I can think of, but, during this recent trip, there are a few shoes that I actually play and not triggered at all. As I watch the shoes being played, it sorts of trigger in my mind and that's why I revised my list. The list might not be complete, but, I try my best. I hope you people understand what I trying to say here: sometimes, it is difficult to think or simulate out the situation. Only when it happens, then you will know it....

    Another thing to address. Don't come and ask me why the trigger events occur, but, you bet and lost. Now, look here. No matter how hard you look at it, there are only 3 possible outcome when a game is being played, it is either PLAYER, BANKER or TIE.

    Nobody will guarantee you that the next result is a PLAYER, BANKER or TIE. So, how? My trigger list is based on what I have discovered during the past 15 years. There is a certain level of way to bet.

    For example, "...........", most people will bet BANKER after it, but, we cannot be 100% sure that it will be BANKER, do we? Can it be a PLAYER? Possible, but, logically, if you don't want to bet BANKER, then, I would advise you to skip the bet.

    Why? You can see that BANKER is stronger than PLAYER. And for those who don't believe in it, then I don't know why you are playing Baccarat.

    Everyone know baccarat is random and so, how to predict next result? For this, I agree with Ellis, there is a bias.

    I looked for shoe [Removed]. I have seen shoes with 25 BANKER and 28 PLAYER before and if you are stubborn and don't believe in it, you are going to be in big trouble.

    [Removed]


    Back to my trigger list. You can say I am lucky or whatever, but, I seldom got hit hard by my trigger list because I think they are safe bet. I look for stable and favorable conditions before I bet. And if it go wrong, which could be possible, then quit. Do it again another time.

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    For my style, my unit size is big and that's why, I need to be very sure. If you wait for play such as "........", then you bet, I think you are almost there, don't you think so?
    Last edited by Bryan; 08-19-2010 at 08:24 PM. Reason: Removed patterns

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    A few guys asked about playing with me live in Genting Highland. Now, I am not in favorable of this arrangement because I carry in excess of 20 grand when I travel due to my big bet size. I am not comfortable to let you guys know who I am. If you are me, will you?

    And there are a few things you need to take note in casino. No wine, no woman and don't trust anyone you get to know in casino. Focus on your game.

    Now, some guys ask me about showing a shoe on how to bet with my trigger list.

    So, let me give you one based on Plasia's Play Log Shoe 1 (refer to his thread 'Plasia's Play Log').

    Shoe #1

    B1212142331
    P54313211
    P11223114121

    I will write down the PLAYER and BANKER for easy reference.
    [Removed]



    Let say you chose to bet PLAYER ONLY
    [Removed]


    See the differences? [Removed]


    That's why my trigger list use a set of rules and condition to define whether the bet you place will be safer and having said that, there is no guarantee that it will be right.

    Questions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by player View Post
    Hello,

    I have question,what if we have tie in trigger,bet or must be without tie in trigger and what if we start to bet and come tie,bet again,or wait for new trigger?

    Also what we do after win,we look only new desicions for trigger after win or can back few desicions back after win for next trigger?

    Thank you.

    Greeting to all.
    You got a good question here.

    Normally, in my play, let say I bet BANKER and it opens TIE, I will take that as a BANKER. But, when it comes to my rules (when calculate the m and n in my trigger list), I will ignore the tie.

    Subsequently, if I lost two bets in a row, I will quit that shoe. Why? I cannot explain it. I hate to see TIE because from what I have encountered, every time a TIE happens, the shoes which is playing nicely will become very choppy and goes anyhow.

    As for your other questions, after the first bet win, there is a rule to determine whether you continue betting. If it is not, then wait for the next trigger.

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    Hi bryan,

    i think u mistype ur betting on above sample.
    B PP B PP B PPPP BB PPP BBB P
    PPPPP BBBB PPP B PPP BB P B
    P B PP BB PPP B P BBBB P BB P

    The 2 reds(BB) should be only 1 banker bet instead of 2 bankers bet due the 1st 2 banker streaks is 2 not 3 or above.

    Correct me if i'm wrong.

    best regards,
    max

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    Bryan:

    Your posts are very interesting and your success with your triggers is intriguing. I would appreciate you sending me the triggers you use. I have hundreds of actual casino shoes and will test them against my shoes and share my experience with you and this board.

    Many Thanks
    Last edited by Mike; 03-30-2010 at 09:31 AM. Reason: removed email address

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan View Post
    A few guys asked about playing with me live in Genting Highland. Now, I am not in favorable of this arrangement because I carry in excess of 20 grand when I travel due to my big bet size. I am not comfortable to let you guys know who I am. If you are me, will you?

    And there are a few things you need to take note in casino. No wine, no woman and don't trust anyone you get to know in casino. Focus on your game.

    Now, some guys ask me about showing a shoe on how to bet with my trigger list.

    So, let me give you one based on Plasia's Play Log Shoe 1 (refer to his thread 'Plasia's Play Log').

    Shoe #1

    B1212142331
    P54313211
    P11223114121

    I will write down the PLAYER and BANKER for easy reference.
    B PP B PP B PPPP BB PPP BBB P
    PPPPP BBBB PPP B PPP BB P B
    P B PP BB PPP B P BBBB P BB P

    If you refer to my trigger list, I will bet 3 times in this shoe and got 2 rights and 1 wrong (I bet banker and it open P)


    Let say you chose to bet PLAYER ONLY

    B PP B PP B PPPP BB PPP BBB P
    PPPPP BBBB PPP B PPP BB P B
    P B PP BB PPP B P BBBB P BB P

    If you refer to my trigger list, you will betting 10 times in this shoe and got 9 rights and 1 wrong (bet player and open BANKER). And it is quite equal to Plasia winning unit in that shoes.


    See the differences? There is a lot of differences because the table is PLAYER trend, most of the PLAYER is into 2's or 3's.

    So, here is the question? Will you know whether is go into 2's or 3's? You won't know.

    That's why my trigger list use a set of rules and condition to define whether the bet you place will be safer and having said that, there is no guarantee that it will be right.

    Questions?
    hi brian , can u send the trigger , i 1 2 try at genting

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    Please no more public posting of your email addresses. You can send messages through the private message system and then later through a PM you may exchange emails if you wish.

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    Bryan

    This is very interesting. You and I have almost idenical attitudes about
    playing as a professional. I also leave my home and family on a Monday or
    Tuesday, stay at the resort attached to the casino, and return on Friday.
    My wife knows what I am doing, but we try not to expose our children to gambling.

    I also play with a substantial bankroll, but usually don't carry more than
    $10,000, the rest is handled by markers or wire transfers.

    If I am in Las Vegas, I have a three hour time zone difference, so at
    7 am my body thinks it is 10am. The good news is that I almost always
    get a minibac table to myself. I can get in about 8 to 10 shoes by lunch time. Also there are many places to play and I can spread around the play.

    In Atlantic City or Connecticut, I have a problem. During the day there are bus loads of players comming in, and they tend to smoke, which is
    a problem to me, and they play real slow.

    Late at night or early in the morning I can play. Also at the $100 minimum table I can often get a fast game, but realistically, that is putting a lot of action out where I don't have an edge and I have to make that back
    with the end game.

    This does lend itself to a group or team, but I have never put that together. Think it over, I am looking for ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by max View Post
    Hi bryan,

    i think u mistype ur betting on above sample.
    B PP B PP B PPPP BB PPP BBB P
    PPPPP BBBB PPP B PPP BB P B
    P B PP BB PPP B P BBBB P BB P

    The 2 reds(BB) should be only 1 banker bet instead of 2 bankers bet due the 1st 2 banker streaks is 2 not 3 or above.

    Correct me if i'm wrong.

    best regards,
    max
    hi max , can u explain what us 2 (BB) should be 1 banker

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    Quote Originally Posted by Profbac View Post
    Bryan

    This is very interesting. You and I have almost idenical attitudes about
    playing as a professional. I also leave my home and family on a Monday or
    Tuesday, stay at the resort attached to the casino, and return on Friday.
    My wife knows what I am doing, but we try not to expose our children to gambling.

    I also play with a substantial bankroll, but usually don't carry more than
    $10,000, the rest is handled by markers or wire transfers.

    If I am in Las Vegas, I have a three hour time zone difference, so at
    7 am my body thinks it is 10am. The good news is that I almost always
    get a minibac table to myself. I can get in about 8 to 10 shoes by lunch time. Also there are many places to play and I can spread around the play.

    In Atlantic City or Connecticut, I have a problem. During the day there are bus loads of players comming in, and they tend to smoke, which is
    a problem to me, and they play real slow.

    Late at night or early in the morning I can play. Also at the $100 minimum table I can often get a fast game, but realistically, that is putting a lot of action out where I don't have an edge and I have to make that back
    with the end game.

    This does lend itself to a group or team, but I have never put that together. Think it over, I am looking for ideas.
    hi profbac , i haven't found any good trigger only that work perfectly . my experience is must have trigger & luck . if u understand the 'law of average' & discipline will be advantage to win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan View Post
    A few guys asked about playing with me live in Genting Highland. Now, I am not in favorable of this arrangement because I carry in excess of 20 grand when I travel due to my big bet size. I am not comfortable to let you guys know who I am. If you are me, will you?

    And there are a few things you need to take note in casino. No wine, no woman and don't trust anyone you get to know in casino. Focus on your game.

    Now, some guys ask me about showing a shoe on how to bet with my trigger list.

    So, let me give you one based on Plasia's Play Log Shoe 1 (refer to his thread 'Plasia's Play Log').

    Shoe #1

    B1212142331
    P54313211
    P11223114121

    I will write down the PLAYER and BANKER for easy reference.
    B PP B PP B PPPP BB PPP BBB P
    PPPPP BBBB PPP B PPP BB P B
    P B PP BB PPP B P BBBB P BB P

    If you refer to my trigger list, I will bet 3 times in this shoe and got 2 rights and 1 wrong (I bet banker and it open P)


    Let say you chose to bet PLAYER ONLY

    B PP B PP B PPPP BB PPP BBB P
    PPPPP BBBB PPP B PPP BB P B
    P B PP BB PPP B P BBBB P BB P

    If you refer to my trigger list, you will betting 10 times in this shoe and got 9 rights and 1 wrong (bet player and open BANKER). And it is quite equal to Plasia winning unit in that shoes.


    See the differences? There is a lot of differences because the table is PLAYER trend, most of the PLAYER is into 2's or 3's.

    So, here is the question? Will you know whether is go into 2's or 3's? You won't know.

    That's why my trigger list use a set of rules and condition to define whether the bet you place will be safer and having said that, there is no guarantee that it will be right.

    Questions?
    hi bryan, can you send me your trigger list . after test i willl send the result

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    Quote Originally Posted by max View Post
    Hi bryan,

    i think u mistype ur betting on above sample.
    B PP B PP B PPPP BB PPP BBB P
    PPPPP BBBB PPP B PPP BB P B
    P B PP BB PPP B P BBBB P BB P

    The 2 reds(BB) should be only 1 banker bet instead of 2 bankers bet due the 1st 2 banker streaks is 2 not 3 or above.

    Correct me if i'm wrong.

    best regards,
    max
    Max, it should be 2 BB. Will send you my trigger list and you take a look. I think you are still holding on to the first draft which I missed out some points.

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    Back again after a 3 days trips to Genting Highlands. Make it back before Friday as it is a public holiday here in Singapore. I try to make it a point to be back with the kids whenever holidays and they are not required to show up in school.

    I just read about the quit thread by thegeorgiahurricane and it is quite a common story that I have seen and heard over and over. So, I am not going to talk about how much I make this time round as you guys already know my target unit, but, for this post, I will talk a bit about life about professional.

    Now, it is quite obvious that many people aspire to be a pro. If you think that life as a pro is similar to you see on the movie or tv screen with all the high life, money, fancy car, wine, woman, then you are totally wrong.

    I don't know about others, but, for me, it is totally the opposite.

    It is sick and boring.


    First, gambling is a big tattoo here. You are not going to tell people that you gamble for a living, will you? Maybe you will, but I don't. Are you going to tell your kids that you earn a living through gamble? I believe most people don't, neither will I.

    We all know in our head that gambling is not a good way to earn a living, especially with all the sad stories going round every now and then, and if you can, I believe you will stop your kids to gamble when they grow up as well, don't you?


    Next, I don't go casino and go home at end of the day. That basically put unnecessary pressure on me to win certain units within a fixed time frame. So, whenever I go for casino trips, I will stay for 2-3 days and it is easy to hit the target when targets are being spread into sessions. And it means leaving my family at home. So, you can imagine the loneliness when you sleep alone. And if you think that you can flirt with other woman, then better quit the casino. You will lose your focus. What you think you are doing in the casino? Money or woman?

    Again, discipline. Many people told me they are very discipline and play patience game. Next, I see they betting and betting when there is no clear indication how the shoe going. The next I know, they up their bet when they losing and end up, taking money out from their credit card, bank and so on.

    Guys, if you think you are very discipline, you may be wrong. I am not sure how many people can walk into the casino without betting and leave. I can. I can have many different sessions and if I don't see a good shoe, even when my trigger hit, I may not bet at all. That's the difference. I don't feel compel to bet. Don't have the mindset that you need to bet just because you travel all the way to the casino. If there are no favorable condition or suitable shoes, don't bet and wait till there is one. Simple as that.

    And always always always get out when you are ahead. If you said you want to win 10 units, once you win it, just leave. Even if the shoes is a straight banker all the way, just leave.

    Because if you don't, once you lost one bet, you will say it is ok, let's put another bet to win it back and long before you know it, you are gone, together with your bankroll.

    That's discipline and how I do it for the past 15 years full time, always get out when I am ahead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Profbac View Post
    Bryan

    This is very interesting. You and I have almost idenical attitudes about
    playing as a professional. I also leave my home and family on a Monday or
    Tuesday, stay at the resort attached to the casino, and return on Friday.
    My wife knows what I am doing, but we try not to expose our children to gambling.

    I also play with a substantial bankroll, but usually don't carry more than
    $10,000, the rest is handled by markers or wire transfers.

    If I am in Las Vegas, I have a three hour time zone difference, so at
    7 am my body thinks it is 10am. The good news is that I almost always
    get a minibac table to myself. I can get in about 8 to 10 shoes by lunch time. Also there are many places to play and I can spread around the play.

    In Atlantic City or Connecticut, I have a problem. During the day there are bus loads of players comming in, and they tend to smoke, which is
    a problem to me, and they play real slow.

    Late at night or early in the morning I can play. Also at the $100 minimum table I can often get a fast game, but realistically, that is putting a lot of action out where I don't have an edge and I have to make that back
    with the end game.

    This does lend itself to a group or team, but I have never put that together. Think it over, I am looking for ideas.
    I am not sure if you are looking at forming a team, but, that's a terrific idea as your strategy is solely depending on your last 10 hands. You could get a few people spreading out on different tables betting the minimal bet and hit the tables once it reach the ending.

    Mine is different as I am waiting for certain patterns to appear and it could be anytime during the shoe.

    But, are you suggesting that we form a team? That will be hard as you are in US while I in Asia.

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    After I posted the 1st sample shoe, some guys PM me to post another sample shoe to show how I played with my trigger list.

    So, let take a look again based on Plasia's Play Log Shoe 2 (refer to his thread 'Plasia's Play Log').

    Shoe #2

    P22111113211211
    P312241421
    P14121222111

    Again, I will write down the PLAYER and BANKER for easy reference.
    [removed]

    Let say you chose to bet PLAYER ONLY
    [removed]



    Now, some are asking me why I show bet PLAYER. Okay, the trigger list that you guys got is for betting on BANKER, if you want to bet PLAYER only, then, just swap the B with P and P with B, it is the same logic.

    The important point here is to play at the right shoe. If a shoes is going strong at player, then, obviously there is no chance to bet banker, but, you don't lose either, you are just wasting your time, that's all.

    Similarly, if the shoe is strong at BANKER, you don't lose much either because there will be hardly any chance you can bet on PLAYER. Got it?


    So, you can see. My strategy is all about patience game. So far, I never lost more than 3 hands in a row.

    The fact that I don't play many hands reduce my risk of losing substantially. Many people may not like it, that's not my problem. I show you the way, the rest is up to you.

    And really, the fact that I don't play every hands, doesn't mean that I don't know how to play. Base on my experience, I could play and win many hands as well if I want to, but, is that necessary?

    After all, all those terms that you guys familiar with (which I am trying to grab of), such as OTBL, TBL, FLD, Twisters and many others, is still either BANKER or PLAYER, just that they are turning and twisting differently.

    And the next game result will still be either BANKER, PLAYER or TIE. Nothing else.
    Last edited by Bryan; 08-19-2010 at 08:28 PM. Reason: Removed Patterns

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    One more thing before I log off.

    I mentioned in a earlier post as well. My trigger list is not the holy grail. It is something that have been working well for me for many years and I am sharing it free with you guys who PM me.

    I don't ask for anything in return so don't come and ask me why the trigger events occur, but, you bet and lost. Think.

    The rules are built to be conservative and they are restrictive. They form the base of what I am going to bet. But, sometimes, I will ignore certain rules (for example rule B1). If I feel that BANKER is going to be long, then, I will keep betting BANKER 4, 5, 6 or even more times in a rows. I have seen longest 25 BANKER before and this types of situation cannot be written into rule.

    So, if you feel that certain rules is not good, then you can ignore them, not that I care. It is your money, so you take charge.

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    Dear Bryan, I am very interested in your trigger, please kindly send. Thanks & Regards.

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    I started with BJ. I quickly learned that every BJ book was complete BS. I also quickly learned that only about 10% of the games were beatable.- by anybody! But I also learned how to identify the beatable games as well as when and where I was most likely to find them. I only play tables I know I can beat and I know how to beat them.

    To me there is a big difference between a Gambler and a Player. The Gambler freely uses the term "risk of ruin" as do all the books he reads. That term does not belong in a player's vocabulary because he simply NEVER takes that risk.

    BJ or Bac, my buy in is $300 or 12 chips. I seldom go through my buy in but if I can't beat that table with $300 I can't beat it period. WRONG table. I NEVER buy in again at the same table. NEVER. Sometimes I go all day W/O playing. No problem.

    I never start with Black. I only slip into black at a table I've already beat with green. But the same rules apply. 12 chips always from winnings.

    I carried the same rules to Bac that worked for me in BJ. I know how to identify the few tables I know I can beat. If I can't find one I don't play. I'm not there to gamble. Gambling is sick!

    Unlike what most say, I'm not there for fun or relaxation or to gamble. There's nothing fun about it and its certainly not relaxing. By careful selection I take the gamble out of it. Gambling is sick!

    I'm always going the opposite way of the crowds. I've learned that casinos are least vulnerable when they are crowded and most vulnerable when they are sparse. I know which card preps produce which results. I usually play early morning.

    If you think the cards are really random you need to stay out of casinos. You are merely gambling and gambling is sick!

    If you can't play with that kind of discipline you need to stay out of casinos. Playing without perfect discipline is gambling and gambling is sick!

    If you don't know how to pick your table and your system you need to stay out of casinos because you are merely gambling and gambling is sick!

    If you play a rigid system and stick to it no matter what, you need to stay out of casinos because you are merely gambling and gambling is sick!

    Who does that leave? Precious few. But thank God for the Gamblers because, W/O them, there would be no casinos.

    It's just a job like any other. If you see it any other way, stay away.

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    Default Re: My Betting Strategy

    Hi Bryan, can you please send me a copy of your trigger list. Thanking you in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan View Post
    After I posted the 1st sample shoe, some guys PM me to post another sample shoe to show how I played with my trigger list.

    So, let take a look again based on Plasia's Play Log Shoe 2 (refer to his thread 'Plasia's Play Log').

    Shoe #2

    P22111113211211
    P312241421
    P14121222111

    Again, I will write down the PLAYER and BANKER for easy reference.
    PP BB P B P B P BBB PP B P BB P B
    PPP B PP BB PPPP B PPPP BB P
    P BBBB P BB P BB PP BB P B P

    If you refer to my trigger list, I will bet 3 times in this shoe and got 2 rights and 1 wrong.


    Let say you chose to bet PLAYER ONLY
    PP BB P B P B P BBB PP B P BB P B
    PPP B PP BB PPPP B PPPP BB P
    P BBBB P BB P BB PP BB P B P

    If you refer to my trigger list, you will betting 4 times in this shoe and got 3 rights and 1 wrong.


    Now, some are asking me why I show bet PLAYER. Okay, the trigger list that you guys got is for betting on BANKER, if you want to bet PLAYER only, then, just swap the B with P and P with B, it is the same logic.

    The important point here is to play at the right shoe. If a shoes is going strong at player, then, obviously there is no chance to bet banker, but, you don't lose either, you are just wasting your time, that's all.

    Similarly, if the shoe is strong at BANKER, you don't lose much either because there will be hardly any chance you can bet on PLAYER. Got it?


    So, you can see. My strategy is all about patience game. So far, I never lost more than 3 hands in a row.

    The fact that I don't play many hands reduce my risk of losing substantially. Many people may not like it, that's not my problem. I show you the way, the rest is up to you.

    And really, the fact that I don't play every hands, doesn't mean that I don't know how to play. Base on my experience, I could play and win many hands as well if I want to, but, is that necessary?

    After all, all those terms that you guys familiar with (which I am trying to grab of), such as OTBL, TBL, FLD, Twisters and many others, is still either BANKER or PLAYER, just that they are turning and twisting differently.

    And the next game result will still be either BANKER, PLAYER or TIE. Nothing else.
    hi brian, can u explain about your trigger

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan View Post
    I am not sure if you are looking at forming a team, but, that's a terrific idea as your strategy is solely depending on your last 10 hands. You could get a few people spreading out on different tables betting the minimal bet and hit the tables once it reach the ending.

    Mine is different as I am waiting for certain patterns to appear and it could be anytime during the shoe.

    But, are you suggesting that we form a team? That will be hard as you are in US while I in Asia.
    Thinking about this on my drive home form Atlantic City:
    1. A middle aged Caucasian player making large bets at the end of the shoe would probably arouse suspicion. However, it sounds like the casinos don't mind you jumping in and out of the shoe with large bets.
    So Bryan, you are what the blackjack card counters would call the perfect "Big Player". You are doing your system anyway, and near the end of the
    shoe, you make the large bets when signaled by the card counter (me).

    2. Excuse my very poor sense of geography. I have rarely left the United States. A few trips to Canada and to London. That is all. An idea:

    a) Is there a mid way point that we could play at. Hey, ever been to
    Las Vegas. You might like it. Many of the better places are most welcoming to Asain Players. You would probably be comped very well.

    b) Is London at all a possibility. I have never gambled there, but
    heck, it worked for James Bond.

    I am interested in working with you. Keep thinking. Maybe there is a way.

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    hi bryan, can you PM me your trigger instructions to test them out, cheers !!

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    Question Re: My Betting Strategy

    As for random events the chaos theory applies and black swans and tsunamis can upset any well thought reason or the best laid plans or grids-there is no holy grail unfortunately.However this forum is very interesting as many are trying to predict or overcome the odds of random events.I am sure if he can discover the holy grail he will not reveal it-such is human nature-self interest.

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    Hi Bryan,

    Could you please send me your trigger method. I am keen to study it.

    Thanks and Regards

    K800i

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiger View Post
    As for random events the chaos theory applies and black swans and tsunamis can upset any well thought reason or the best laid plans or grids-there is no holy grail unfortunately.However this forum is very interesting as many are trying to predict or overcome the odds of random events.I am sure if he can discover the holy grail he will not reveal it-such is human nature-self interest.
    Tiger, You are partly correct.
    The cards in a shoe are know. The cards remaining after each hand are
    knowable to the trained observer. The number of 8,9 etc is not random.

    The sequence of how those cards are arranged inside the shoe is definitely random and unknown. That bit of information we do have is what makes this a possibly beatable game.

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    Hi! Profbac,
    I love your idea of waiting and counting then play last 10 hands. This may be a good way to play after looking the flow of the shoe. It is also suitable with my time constraint when I am at casino. I just walk around look at the boards then decide which one is good, then play few hands. When I achieve the goal, I quit and go home. Please shed some light of your strategy.
    Thank in advance.
    GB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellis View Post
    I started with BJ. I quickly learned that every BJ book was complete BS.
    That's arrogant and show what sorts of person you are, Ellis. I don't think Dr Edward Thorp is BS. I am taught to be humble since young and never once did I say that other are BS, though I know some are. You have more to learned.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ellis View Post
    BJ or Bac, my buy in is $300 or 12 chips.
    Is that so? I saw somewhere that you buy in $1000 before. Where did that comes from?


    Quote Originally Posted by Ellis View Post
    If you think the cards are really random you need to stay out of casinos. You are merely gambling and gambling is sick!

    If you play a rigid system and stick to it no matter what, you need to stay out of casinos because you are merely gambling and gambling is sick!
    Are you telling me to stay away from the casino because I know only 1 way to play and beat the casino for straight 15 years full time?

    LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiger View Post
    As for random events the chaos theory applies and black swans and tsunamis can upset any well thought reason or the best laid plans or grids-there is no holy grail unfortunately.However this forum is very interesting as many are trying to predict or overcome the odds of random events.I am sure if he can discover the holy grail he will not reveal it-such is human nature-self interest.
    tiger,

    I already stated that my trigger is not holy grail, but it serve me well for the past 15 years. As for your saying that I won't reveal it, you can go ahead and check with the others to see if I have backtracked on my word. If sending a PM is too troublesome, then I think that person don't deserve to have it.

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