My Betting Strategy

[soxfan]

Terrible, this forum is losin its' entertainment value now that garnabby jones, senlung/hangseng/annielo/michelletan/dragoon, and ellis are gone, hey hey.

[Elvis]

Terrible, this forum is losin its' entertainment value now that garnabby jones, senlung/hangseng/annielo/michelletan/dragoon, and ellis are gone, hey hey.

Okay, so now we're down to "psf!", "hey hey", and Mr Who. If we're talking about real successful players, then why are they here... instead of impressing, or whatever, many more in real life while making some real cash all the while???

[Egalite]

Somewhere in this bullshit thread, cantankerous Ellis tried to spin the yarn about a group of Asians players taking a lot of money out of the casino due to streaks and the dealer casually mentioning to three of Ellis fictitious student the casino changed the CSM to produce a choppy shoes, so their eyes lit up and they played "bet opposite" and cleaned up shoe after shoe after shoe. Firstly Ellis is delusional as well as a lot of other things.

Anyway, this is straight from the manufacturer of these devices;

To begin the shuffle procedure, the BOX randomly determines whether this shuffle will utilize a "tighter" intertwine (1 to 5 cards per "drop") or a "looser" intertwine (5 to 10 cards per "drop"). There is no way to externally know which kind of intertwine was selected, unless possibly, you are capable of [clump] "reading" the cards; and even then possibly not. ShuffleMaster corp. claims that the intertwine selection is COMPLETELY random and is NOT selectable by casino personnel.
(As an aside: a drop of 1 to 5 cards is roughly equivalent to the dealer taking 3/4 deck picks during the shuffle process, while a drop of 5 to 10 cards is roughly equivalent to taking 1-deck picks.)


It's a really interesting article from the prospective of a BJ player, you can read the entire article here.

Ellis proves once again he is off his trolley and to think people actually want to be associated with this lying scammer.

[pitty1]

I have been playing baccarat for the past 5 years without good result. Lost about 100k. Luckily I got a good job that paid well and able to get by without much struggle. And I really count myself lucky that I found this forum and get to receive Bryan's trigger list. To be frank, I do have doubt that it works in the first place. But, through some testing and explore, I find that it do have it's merit and advantage.

And today marked the 20th successful trip that I have in RWS playing Bryan's trigger list, averaging 1K per trip, which I think is pretty good. Have win back about 20% of my total lost so far. Thanks to Bryan.

Earlier, someone pointed out that having Bryan trigger list won't make you money. If you played blindly, you need to reach Bryan 80% hit rate before you can make money. I never reach that. So far, I average 60-65% hit rate and I do play slightly differently.

In the spirit of sharing, I will tell what and how I changed and hope everyone make money like I do.

Things I ignore: Rule A1, A2, C2 & C3. Bryan mentioned that no rule is to be listed here, so I just stated the rule number. According to my PM with Bryan, he say that these rules is subjective to individual and so I take them out.

Things I do: Bryan bet only banker, but, I bet both player and banker. If player trigger, I bet player and when banker trigger, I go for banker as well. When Rule B trigger, I bet only half unit and if that half unit win, I continue bet half unit till it switch play.

Money Management: Bryan use 1,2 progression after 3 loss. For me, I don't. I use something that I picked up from Gambling Glen. I used 5 bets as a guide. Flat bet 1 unit each. At the end of the 5 bets, I check if I up or down. If I lost 3 units or more, will bet 2 unit each for the next 5 bets, else, continue use 1 unit bet for the next 5 bets. At the end of the 5 bets, check again. If lost 3 units or more, continue to use 2 unit for the next 5 bets. Anytime during the 2 units bet, if back to winnings, stop and restart 1 unit bet for 5 bets.

Win/Loss Stop: 15 units. If I hit 15 units and anytime I falls below 15, I quit the game.


So far, this MM works very well for me and so if anyone interested can just try them out and see if it result in more gain for you.

It is a shame that Bryan left this forum. His trigger list is actually very simple, something that I will bet similar given the same scenario, but, somehow, I never think that just betting that way will make money. And to think that there is still people out there who classify Bryan as lucky, I think that is something not right. To win consistently for 18 years, I don't think luck is the main thing now. It is more about strategy, game plan, discipline, patience, determination and not greedy. Bryan have all these attributes.

Thanks Bryan for all your help and showing me the right way to win baccarat and all the best to you, bro.

interesting MM kent mentions here...

[Egalite]

interesting MM kent mentions here...

Only a variation of the 25 step progression, ditto gr8

111111-22222-3333-444-55-6-7-8-9-10.

[Archer]

I second this. I have known Boris (Ron Fitch) for many years and tried to get him to put a thread on here about the shuffle. He has been studying shuffles for 20 years. Ellis also knows Ron. There are no "buttons" to push to produce certain types of shoes.

A

Somewhere in this bullshit thread, cantankerous Ellis tried to spin the yarn about a group of Asians players taking a lot of money out of the casino due to streaks and the dealer casually mentioning to three of Ellis fictitious student the casino changed the CSM to produce a choppy shoes, so their eyes lit up and they played "bet opposite" and cleaned up shoe after shoe after shoe. Firstly Ellis is delusional as well as a lot of other things.

Anyway, this is straight from the manufacturer of these devices;

To begin the shuffle procedure, the BOX randomly determines whether this shuffle will utilize a "tighter" intertwine (1 to 5 cards per "drop") or a "looser" intertwine (5 to 10 cards per "drop"). There is no way to externally know which kind of intertwine was selected, unless possibly, you are capable of [clump] "reading" the cards; and even then possibly not. ShuffleMaster corp. claims that the intertwine selection is COMPLETELY random and is NOT selectable by casino personnel.
(As an aside: a drop of 1 to 5 cards is roughly equivalent to the dealer taking 3/4 deck picks during the shuffle process, while a drop of 5 to 10 cards is roughly equivalent to taking 1-deck picks.)


It's a really interesting article from the prospective of a BJ player, you can read the entire article here.

Ellis proves once again he is off his trolley and to think people actually want to be associated with this lying scammer.

[Sarirawakei]

Hello guys,

Registering my presence here as a newbie in baccarat.

Took me a few hours to read & reread the whole thread.

For those who have exchanged messages/emails and/or played at the casino that Bryan frequented; may I know which casino did he visited?

[fauzy]

He is singaporean.

[Sarirawakei]

You visit Genting Malaysia a lot?

Main di Starworld atau Monte Carlo?

[Mike]

For readers of this thread looking for Bryan's Trigger List.

Here's the link:

Bryan's Trigger, Bryan's Pattern, Bryan's list, Bryan's whatever ....

[fauzy]

monte carlo,latte,IR, starword,vip no...can not enter...

[Free]

monte carlo,latte,IR, starword,vip no...can not enter...

I think your fortune cookie has cracked wide open.

[ASG]

After more than a year... this thread maintained as the highest replies and view rate... Though I never be able to finish reading it but this is the 3rd time I read it since I joined BF...

[pitty1]

After more than a year... this thread maintained as the highest replies and view rate... Though I never be able to finish reading it but this is the 3rd time I read it since I joined BF...

Man I love that guy..Hey there was a few additional threads with a good breakdown of triggers here..Hope this thread breaks the 100,000 marker in 2012..

[laurie]

Hi Bryan...I'm hopping you you wouldn't mine send me your "trigger" for Baccarat. I tried to PM you, but it said that your not receiving any mail. If you can I would appreciate it. Thank you Mate.

Laurie.

[ASG]

Hi Bryan...I'm hopping you you wouldn't mine send me your "trigger" for Baccarat. I tried to PM you, but it said that your not receiving any mail. If you can I would appreciate it. Thank you Mate.

Laurie.

Laurie, he's long gone from this forum... check out the post dates... alternatively you could ask around other forum members for his triggers... some who have them might like to share...

[laurie]

ASG.

Mate thanks for your help. Mate, if you look at MIKE (administrator) reply to people on the 07-20-2011, 05:12 AM (thread #852) you will find a link taking you to the method. I found it after I wrote to Bryan. Bloody complicated though, can't figure it out. I've cut and past it to this thread, but it's probably better you get Mikes...others giving examples of the method may help you more.

Laurie.

General rule: B(m)P(x)B(n)P(y)B,
m>=2, n>=2; x>0, y>0,
m,n,x,y is the lengths of streak.


When first Banker open, we will decide whether to bet it to go to 2's based on

If m>=2 and n>=2, then Rule A & B apply, else Rule C apply


A) Bet to be 2's
----------------

1) if last hand(B) is B[7]P[6], then no bet
2) if n=3 and y=2, then no bet
3) if m>2 and n=2, then no bet
4) if y>=4 and n=2, not qualify


B) Bet to be 3's and above (when Banker bet wins on 2's)
--------------------------------------------------------

1) if m=2 and n=3,4, then bet it to go to 3 (difference between n-m = 1,2, then bet it to go to m+1)
2) if m=2 and n=2,>4, then no bet

3) if m=3 and n=4,5, then bet it to go to 4 (difference between n-m = 1,2, then bet it to go to m+1)
4) if m=3 and n=3,>5, then bet it to go to 3 ONLY


5) if m=4 and n=5,6, then bet it to go to 5 (difference between n-m = 1,2, then bet it to go to m+1)
6) if m=4 and n=4,>6, then bet it to go to 4

C) Bet to be 2's
----------------

example: BB PPP BB PP BBB P B PPP BBB PP B


1) Look back past 5 BANKER, if 80% of the banker have more than 2's, then bet it to go to 2.
i. Past 5 Banker (BB, BB, BBB, B, BBB) > 80%, so bet it to go to 2.

2) Rule A2 and A4 still apply.

i. In this case, no bet as the last is BBB PP B (rule A2)

[ktsg]

This is not the complete updated version. This is the old version.

ASG.

Mate thanks for your help. Mate, if you look at MIKE (administrator) reply to people on the 07-20-2011, 05:12 AM (thread #852) you will find a link taking you to the method. I found it after I wrote to Bryan. Bloody complicated though, can't figure it out. I've cut and past it to this thread, but it's probably better you get Mikes...others giving examples of the method may help you more.

Laurie.

General rule: B(m)P(x)B(n)P(y)B,
m>=2, n>=2; x>0, y>0,
m,n,x,y is the lengths of streak.


When first Banker open, we will decide whether to bet it to go to 2's based on

If m>=2 and n>=2, then Rule A & B apply, else Rule C apply


A) Bet to be 2's
----------------

1) if last hand(B) is B[7]P[6], then no bet
2) if n=3 and y=2, then no bet
3) if m>2 and n=2, then no bet
4) if y>=4 and n=2, not qualify


B) Bet to be 3's and above (when Banker bet wins on 2's)
--------------------------------------------------------

1) if m=2 and n=3,4, then bet it to go to 3 (difference between n-m = 1,2, then bet it to go to m+1)
2) if m=2 and n=2,>4, then no bet

3) if m=3 and n=4,5, then bet it to go to 4 (difference between n-m = 1,2, then bet it to go to m+1)
4) if m=3 and n=3,>5, then bet it to go to 3 ONLY


5) if m=4 and n=5,6, then bet it to go to 5 (difference between n-m = 1,2, then bet it to go to m+1)
6) if m=4 and n=4,>6, then bet it to go to 4

C) Bet to be 2's
----------------

example: BB PPP BB PP BBB P B PPP BBB PP B


1) Look back past 5 BANKER, if 80% of the banker have more than 2's, then bet it to go to 2.
i. Past 5 Banker (BB, BB, BBB, B, BBB) > 80%, so bet it to go to 2.

2) Rule A2 and A4 still apply.

i. In this case, no bet as the last is BBB PP B (rule A2)

[joshky]

Man I love that guy..Hey there was a few additional threads with a good breakdown of triggers here..Hope this thread breaks the 100,000 marker in 2012..

Bryan is a good man. I am pretty sure this thread will break the 100,000 marker, pitty1.

[Egalite]

If a thread such as this gets 78,000 hits. Then I guess there are a lot of people in serious trouble. If it is indicative of the collective knowledge of the site, then we are all in trouble.

[ADulay]

If a thread such as this gets 78,000 hits. Then I guess there are a lot of people in serious trouble. If it is indicative of the collective knowledge of the site, then we are all in trouble.

Finally. Something we can agree on!

AD

[Lucky9]

As is written.
Thank you Bryan...

[gobrandon]

Hi guys,

I have edited and removed some bet placement and shoes that I have posted on this thread and this will be the the last post that I will be doing in this thread.

I have decided to call it a day here.

Many reasons.

I try my best to dissuade people from paying money for systems because I know that they are all rubbish. Now, I accept the fact that there will be losers who keep hoping there will be a holy grail to save their lives. I goes through several system that Johno put up, all are rubbish. One even put up a Martingale and claimed that as a winning system. The problem is that people will just believe in all these hype.

Then, there are people who talked rot and challenge my integrity and character. Now, if you said my system is not working, that's fine. I accept that there will be winners and losers in all systems. But, if you called me a scammer just because I don't share with you my selective betting and ignore the fact that I did put up a free betting system in another thread, that is something that I totally cannot accept it.


From my interaction with people here, I get the fact that most people are just looking for a easy, quick way to make money in baccarat. They are not willing to research and learn. They are looking for mechanical system where they can just follow bet by bet and making money. There is no such system.

In fact, if you are willing to research, there are a few good systems on this forum that can be played and make money consistently. All that is needed on your part is

1. put in a good MM
2. accept that it will lose and win some shoes
3. learn to let go when a shoe is losing and not chasing after it
4. accept that any win is good, even 1 unit

And don't read too much into those 30-40 units shoe win or 100% win session story. All these are just marketing to lure suckers into it. I never comes across anyone who have 100% winning session in my 15 years career and we all know that if it sounds too good to be real, then, you can almost sure that it is false.

So, what are the systems on this forum that can win if you do your own homework?

1. Flat-Betting Banker
2. My Betting Strategy - Entire Shoe
3. Pitboss: I Beat Baccarat! (Free Strategy Here)
4. TBL/OTBL revisited
5. Bet placement strategy


Now, spend sometimes reading through those threads and pick one that you are comfortable with. Put in a good MM, learn when to cut loss on a losing shoe and when to take profit. If you are losing 3 or 4 bets continuous, stop betting, look at all the past games, digest and think what could be done to make those winning bet.

I think if you could do all these, you will be way well off than paying money for those garbage system being marketed.


I always said baccarat is a simple game. Learn to keep it simple. You don't need to employ complex calculation to make money consistently. The fact that most people lost money is not because they are stupid than the rest, but, they are just not discipline, patience and too greedy. I can't help everyone as much as I like to and I accept that most people will still lost money eventually.

I think it is about time that I spend more time with my family and concentrate on baccarat instead of continuing all these never ending fight with system sellers. I have said all that I have to said and I have not made a single dime for all my time spend on this forum. My conscience is clear.

Good luck to all.


Bryan

Hello everyone!

I am glad that I read this thread today. His style of playing baccarat almost exactly the way I play.

Brandon.

[LordMuffdive]

Hello everyone!

I am glad that I read this thread today. His style of playing baccarat almost exactly the way I play.

Brandon.

Good, some of us have read it all over 2 years ago.
You should be doing pretty well for being kind of a newbie here.

[fauzy]

Bryan's trigger system 91% win? hallo member please post and discuss it.

[nguoialwaylose]

Yes! any casino.