My Betting Strategy

[Bryan]

Ok, ayuinca has posted the test result and he did it correctly.

I have also send out my trigger list to those who take the times to PM me and if you did not received and still interested after seeing ayuinca test result, do PM me as I won't post my trigger list here due to obvious reason.

Some people take my style of betting and posting as nonsense and that's perfectly fine with me. If you think that your ways work, just moved on. Don't bother to read whatever posted here because this is my thread and the reason why you are here is you know that your way is not perfect and you wanted to find out how to improve it. Isn't it?

I have my own way of playing and there is no point arguing who is right or wrong. I have played for 15 years full time and right from the beginning, I also said my style don't suit everyone. I never say mine is the holy grail, but, it is all about patience and discipline.

I just need to hit 10 units and I did it again and again over the years. I do suffer from lose as well which I mentioned in a PM to some guys. I lost the equivalent of $10K USD in a short 2 hours plus of play. That was a very bad day when every trigger and decision I made goes wrong, but, hey, who never lost before.

The main point is how to minimize your lose. If I have only $10K in my bank, I will be in big trouble. I can stomach many rounds of that lose, ask yourself, can you? If you can't, then play a lower unit size and slowly built them up.

Don't think of how much you want to win in the casino. If you can walk out of the casino in even ground, you are better than a lot of people. You should know that.

So, goes away if my style don't suit you and stop those nonsenses that I have been tolerating, you know who you are.

[Bryan]

As I said earlier, there is a reason why I let ayuinca do the test and not live shoe results from a few of you guys who offered to test.

I said that I average 80% hit rate and I don't have any references or people to back me up on my word. You guys might have live shoe but that is insufficient to show as well. Ayuinca have a system test thread that test system with his computer simulation and it is nice of him to help me test as well. So, you guys have some statistics to see and compare.

I don't sell you guys anything and my posting here is merely because I can't tolerate people trying to scam or squeeze every cents out of player who are already down.

Maybe a few years back I will be hesitate to share my way but, now that I have made quite a big fortune and anything extra is just like bonus, I don't see why I can't share with you guys. After all, it still depends on yourself whether you can make it or not. My way is just another method that you can consider when you step into the casino.


Ayuinca testing is quite similar to what I play live in casino, but, there seem to be quite a handful of no bet scene which I do encounter, but, not that frequent. I average have 5-8 chances of betting in a shoe and patient is really important.

I believe in betting selectively and only when you are extremely confident of the outcome. Not betting randomly, every hand or alternate hand. You are exposing your risk, that's all.


Let's give you an example. If you see the play goes this way "........" and if you are going to bet the next hand, will you bet BANKER or PLAYER.

I believe most, if not all will goes with BANKER. What do you think of your success rate? Now, if you are patient and wait till the next same or equivalent pattern to come and bet, what do you think of your winning percentage again?

And if you do that over and over again, what will be your winning rate compare to betting randomly player and banker?

I think it will be high, don't you think so? Sadly, many people know that but, don't have that patient to wait for that to happen.


For those who don't have my trigger list, that almost sums up what I have been doing over the year except that my trigger list will move the hit rate higher due to plays I observed throughout the year. Though I expect Ayunica to disagree as his testing show it differently.

Up to you guys to decide. Question? Post here, but, don't please don't put any rules here.

And I will be resuming my weekly casino trip coming monday, so might not be able to answer question as quickly as I like to. So bear with me if you could.

Thank all for your time.

[scot]

Hi Bryan,
It seems like my PM doesn't work or something so I am asking you here and maybe you can PM me the Trigger instead. I got nothing to lose, right and you seem like an honest guy. Thanks. Please let me know if you sent the PM. Thank you, Sir.

Scot

[ckeng]

Sorry guys. I have my reason for letting ayunica doing the test. I am going through his test result now and will update later.

bryan , after testing pls send me your triggers , tq

[ckeng]

Hi Bryan,
It seems like my PM doesn't work or something so I am asking you here and maybe you can PM me the Trigger instead. I got nothing to lose, right and you seem like an honest guy. Thanks. Please let me know if you sent the PM. Thank you, Sir.

Scot

scot , any trigger to share with me

[ckeng]

As I said earlier, there is a reason why I let ayuinca do the test and not live shoe results from a few of you guys who offered to test.

I said that I average 80% hit rate and I don't have any references or people to back me up on my word. You guys might have live shoe but that is insufficient to show as well. Ayuinca have a system test thread that test system with his computer simulation and it is nice of him to help me test as well. So, you guys have some statistics to see and compare.

I don't sell you guys anything and my posting here is merely because I can't tolerate people trying to scam or squeeze every cents out of player who are already down.

Maybe a few years back I will be hesitate to share my way but, now that I have made quite a big fortune and anything extra is just like bonus, I don't see why I can't share with you guys. After all, it still depends on yourself whether you can make it or not. My way is just another method that you can consider when you step into the casino.


Ayuinca testing is quite similar to what I play live in casino, but, there seem to be quite a handful of no bet scene which I do encounter, but, not that frequent. I average have 5-8 chances of betting in a shoe and patient is really important.

I believe in betting selectively and only when you are extremely confident of the outcome. Not betting randomly, every hand or alternate hand. You are exposing your risk, that's all.


Let's give you an example. If you see the play goes this way "BBB P BBB P B" and if you are going to bet the next hand, will you bet BANKER or PLAYER.

I believe most, if not all will goes with BANKER. What do you think of your success rate? Now, if you are patient and wait till the next same or equivalent pattern to come and bet, what do you think of your winning percentage again?

And if you do that over and over again, what will be your winning rate compare to betting randomly player and banker?

I think it will be high, don't you think so? Sadly, many people know that but, don't have that patient to wait for that to happen.


For those who don't have my trigger list, that almost sums up what I have been doing over the year except that my trigger list will move the hit rate higher due to plays I observed throughout the year. Though I expect Ayunica to disagree as his testing show it differently.

Up to you guys to decide. Question? Post here, but, don't please don't put any rules here.

And I will be resuming my weekly casino trip coming monday, so might not be able to answer question as quickly as I like to. So bear with me if you could.

Thank all for your time.

Byran, i hv pro (black listed by gt casino) to test your triggers if u beleive me . tq

[ayuinca]

Soome are good points, Bryan. Now I categorise you people as Ellis who can win for many years but could not have proof or even the testing proof goes otherwise. There is something there may be beyond statistics?; something you can't teach? I can't get to know. I believe when you are playing you are not mechanical playing with it. You should have other advantage factor but could not show statistically. The only thing I am sure is no one can repeat your experience. Keep well all your jobs.

Am I talking subjectively? But I don't have other thing to explaint Bryan case.

[Bryan]

I have sent out my trigger to those that have not received. And for those who PM me and can't get through (my inbox is full), please resent your PM again.

Thanks.

[Bryan]

Hi Bryan,
It seems like my PM doesn't work or something so I am asking you here and maybe you can PM me the Trigger instead. I got nothing to lose, right and you seem like an honest guy. Thanks. Please let me know if you sent the PM. Thank you, Sir.

Scot

Scot, you should have received the trigger by now.

[Bryan]

bryan , after testing pls send me your triggers , tq

ckeng, trigger send.

[Bryan]

Soome are good points, Bryan. Now I categorise you people as Ellis who can win for many years but could not have proof or even the testing proof goes otherwise. There is something there may be beyond statistics?; something you can't teach? I can't get to know. I believe when you are playing you are not mechanical playing with it. You should have other advantage factor but could not show statistically. The only thing I am sure is no one can repeat your experience. Keep well all your jobs.

Am I talking subjectively? But I don't have other thing to explaint Bryan case.

ayuinca, take a look at the test result again. I have post in your testing thread.

[bohebolo]

Bryan , would you share your trigger with me ?
Please mail

Thanks,
Wilson

[linksys01]

Hi Bryan, i would like to have your triggers, thank you for sharing, and for your work, Irwan

[kwachihhua]

Dear Bryan,

I am very interested with your trigger, please kindly send. Thanks alot.

[Bryan]

Hi Bryan, i would like to have your triggers, thank you for sharing, and for your work, Irwan

Bryan , would you share your trigger with me ?
Please mail
Thanks,
Wilson

Trigger send.

[Bryan]

This will be my last post this week. I will be traveling early tomorrow morning (Mon) and won't be back in another 4 days times.

I received a few questions thru PM about the effective of the system, of course, on top of the testing done by ayuinca.

Guys, I can't explain clearly why the test result from ayuinca is so different, but, if you have gone through what I have said before, computer simulation can be very different from live shoes. I have nothing to hide and I am the one who requested ayuinca to test and I don't see any lose from you guys end, isn't it?

Now, if you believe in betting selectively and run once you hit the target, you are in the same camp with me. If not, then, you will almost disagree with whatever I said.

I did it years in years out and right from the beginning of my casino venture, that is the way to bet (although I don't bet with these triggers from day 1). See the opportunity, hit it and keep your winning.

If you think my trigger is not working for you, create your own. But, you must believe in betting less. Flat betting or at most 1-2 progression is the way to go. I have seen so many types of progression and ultimately, it still depends on you getting it right, if you lost all progression, you are going to be in big trouble.

As John1234 said it too, he believe in it as well and you guys pause for a minute and do some thinking, betting more hand (through various progression) is better or bet less hand.

The answer is pretty obvious and I have do it year in year out and I don't think there is anything else that I can say or taught (might not be a good word, I don't consider I am an expert) you guys. I have mentioned a simple scenario of "BBB P BBB P B" in one of the post yesterday, if you read it, think over it again. Since no one answer the question, I am going to ask again, what is the winning rate you will get?

And lastly, I have seen many different things throughout my journey these few years. Seriously, there are other things besides gambling. If life is hard on you, don't think of betting to a good life, you will be in for much surprises.

Bet only when you can lost.

See ya in 4 days times.

[Profbac]

I am wondering if it would make sense for the people on this thread to play at the same table. Here is why.

My method is really only positive expectation during the last 10 hands,
assuming that the cut card is no more than 16 cards from the end.
So, I play every hand, and fast for two reasons:
1. I want to get to the end. I need the volume
2. The casinos have been willing to let me play as long as I bet.
I have been told that I must leave the table if I am not betting.

In the middle of the shoe my method does reduce the house edge significantly, actually it does sometimes turn positive (about 15% of the time) but only to about plus .15.

So, I am reading that you folks don't like to play every hand, you want to pick your spots. OK. I will play every hand, you chart the shoe or do whatever it is that you like to do. But let me get through the shoe quickly so I can get to the end.

By the end of the shoe, if you see me but up a large bet, you know something is up. Is there a way we can work together??

I am open to exploring any suggestions.

[playerrun]

I am new to Bac .. Have been playing about a year.. I live near tunica,ms..any suggestions or help you can give would be grately appreciated!!!!

[Burnings]

Hi Bryan,

PMed you about the trigger. Your qns to us was in a scenerio of "BBBPBBBPB" what is next.

For me, I would bet "B" followed by a "P"....

[player]

Hello,

I have question,what if we have tie in trigger,bet or must be without tie in trigger and what if we start to bet and come tie,bet again,or wait for new trigger?

Also what we do after win,we look only new desicions for trigger after win or can back few desicions back after win for next trigger?

Thank you.

Greeting to all.

[ckeng]

bryan , after testing pls send me your triggers , tq

Hi bryan , thanks for youe trigger , it seem to be a little bit complicated. can give example

[Bryan]

I am wondering if it would make sense for the people on this thread to play at the same table. Here is why.

My method is really only positive expectation during the last 10 hands,
assuming that the cut card is no more than 16 cards from the end.
So, I play every hand, and fast for two reasons:
1. I want to get to the end. I need the volume
2. The casinos have been willing to let me play as long as I bet.
I have been told that I must leave the table if I am not betting.

In the middle of the shoe my method does reduce the house edge significantly, actually it does sometimes turn positive (about 15% of the time) but only to about plus .15.

So, I am reading that you folks don't like to play every hand, you want to pick your spots. OK. I will play every hand, you chart the shoe or do whatever it is that you like to do. But let me get through the shoe quickly so I can get to the end.

By the end of the shoe, if you see me but up a large bet, you know something is up. Is there a way we can work together??

I am open to exploring any suggestions.

If I understand you correctly, you are betting that your last 10 hands is going to make you the money, right?

Now, if that is the case, then, why can't you just stand near the playing table and chart the shoe accordingly while other playing and make your betting when the times comes?

Another thing about making bet, I hate to feel compel to bet. If that happens, I will just leave the table and it seems like it is quite a standard in US for casino to do that, cos I got a few people telling me this.

[Bryan]

Just came back yesterday night and for this trip, manage to win 35 units instead of the target 50 and though a bit fall short, after all the expenses like hotel, meals, transport blah blah blah, still quite a nice changes.

For those who have PM me, will get back to you soon. Let me goes through what I have been missing here first.

[Bryan]

Soome are good points, Bryan. Now I categorise you people as Ellis who can win for many years but could not have proof or even the testing proof goes otherwise. There is something there may be beyond statistics?; something you can't teach? I can't get to know. I believe when you are playing you are not mechanical playing with it. You should have other advantage factor but could not show statistically. The only thing I am sure is no one can repeat your experience. Keep well all your jobs.

Am I talking subjectively? But I don't have other thing to explaint Bryan case.

ayuinca, while I was playing in the past few days, I discovered that I was playing slightly differences from the trigger list.

There are some rules that I have not stated. I did not purposely leave them out in the list, but, because they are rather difficult and a bit complicated to explain and if you can recall, I did mentioned them before in one of my earlier post.

All the rules are in my head and whenever I watch the shoe being played, it will sort of trigger automatically and then I will evaluate and make the bet. I hope you know what I means.

I don't have the intention to write book or teach people and therefore, I have never properly write or document my strategy. The list is what I have thought of last week when I was posting and my initial thought is that they are simple and should be effective and maybe, they can help others.

I hate to see people paying to learn how to win baccarat because to me, that is a total waste of money, especially when it is recurring monthly and you are already down. Is it that hard to figure out and win a comfortable income monthly, I don't know, maybe I am lucky.

What I know is that many people lost money due to poor discipline, not enough patience and not getting out when they are ahead.

[Profbac]

If I understand you correctly, you are betting that your last 10 hands is going to make you the money, right?

Now, if that is the case, then, why can't you just stand near the playing table and chart the shoe accordingly while other playing and make your betting when the times comes?

Another thing about making bet, I hate to feel compel to bet. If that happens, I will just leave the table and it seems like it is quite a standard in US for casino to do that, cos I got a few people telling me this.

Yes, I am making a good deal of money at the end. The problem is
1. I have already had warnings about not playing.
2. There are only so many hours in a day.
If I am alone at a minibac table, I can get through a shoe in 30 minutes. At a full Macau or midi or large bac table, it takes two to two and a half hours to play through a shoe, then 20 minutes to cahnge cards etc. I like to get through at least 10 shoes in a day.

I am open to suggestions and ideas.

[Burnings]

Just came back yesterday night and for this trip, manage to win 35 units instead of the target 50 and though a bit fall short, after all the expenses like hotel, meals, transport blah blah blah, still quite a nice changes.

For those who have PM me, will get back to you soon. Let me goes through what I have been missing here first.

Hi Bryan, hope to receive your trigger soon. I wanted very badly to compare the different systems of betting.

Thanks!

[scot]

Just came back yesterday night and for this trip, manage to win 35 units instead of the target 50 and though a bit fall short, after all the expenses like hotel, meals, transport blah blah blah, still quite a nice changes.

For those who have PM me, will get back to you soon. Let me goes through what I have been missing here first.

Hi Byran, Congratulations on your Casino Trip win. I pm'd you about your trigger. Can you give us a shoe example and play by play via PM to your subscribers of your trigger;-) Thank you, Sir.

[Ellis]

Well it is certainly highly refreshing to finally see a positive thread on this forum uninterupted by the naysayers here. Gentlemen, this is how a Baccarat thread SHOULD look. My highest congratulations to one and all who contributed here. Teamwork is, at the very least, a start in the right direction. From there, wonders can happen! It's US against THEM and THEM is the casinos. This US against US is NEVER going to get US anywhere. Now, whats say we keep it this way. Isn't this a lot more pleasant and, at the same time, a lot more constructive? Good ideas can come from anywhere at any time when people don't destroy them before they've even seen the light of day. THIS is what a Baccarat Forum SHOULD be about. Let's beat the bastards. - BOTH the ones on THEIR side AND the ones on our side. THIS is where its at! Now, lets see if this approach works. Even if we find it doesn't it may very well spawn even better ideas. Who knows. At least its a start.

[player]

Hi,

Bryan,please if you can only asnwer on this questions,what if we have tie in trigger,bet or must be without tie in trigger and what if we start to bet and come tie,bet again,or wait for new trigger?

Also what we do after win,we look only new desicions for trigger after win or can back few desicions back after win for next trigger?

Is better to start from beggining of the shoe or is not metter when you start betting?

Thank you.

Regards.

[sniper]

Hello Bryan,

Could you please kindly send me your trigger. I am interested to learn more about it.

Thanks and Regards

sniper