Thread: Hurricane Trip report

Well--I finally made it down to Mississippi after a 6 months break and I wanted to see if I could implement some of my new learning. I had a successful trip making $1800 after expenses with a base bet of $15 playing Sunday-Wednesday. My traveling companion didn't fair as well.

I wanted to share what I feel I did right--what my friend did wrong--and where I could improve. Hopefully this information will prove helpful.

First of all--I trended using various streams of information from the shoe. I sought to follow the strongest trend as the shoe progressed. I tracked the following: opposite/repeats, dbl/odfl, plus/minus count on naturals jumping/sticking, plus/minus count on ties jumping sticking.

My progression was a 15-20-35 in the beginning of the shoe. Once I would get ahead in a shoe I would begin to pocket my chips. First it would be half my buy-in,then all my buy-in,then increments of $25 profit leaving only 3-4 base units on the table. If at any point I lost the units I had left on the board that would be the end of the shoe for me. This worked well as I had profitable shoes on all shoes played on Mon-Tues-Wed. and I think having the chips tucked away made it easier for me to know when it was time to quit.

My travel companion never removed her chips from the table and rarely could tell you if she was up or down. Her green chips went up and down like an elevator. I believe a stop/loss--which pocketing your chips is--would have benifited her.

When I felt that I was mentally tired to the point that it was affecting my play I stopped playing. It helped prevent me exhausting as quickly as the week went on and probably kept mefrom losing back my profit.

My friend, on the other hand, probably averaged 3-4 hours of sleep each night and was mentally and physically exhausted by the end of the trip. As the week wore on I noticed too that my discipline was suffering from my increasing fatigue--but I was fortunate and did not lose my profit.

I will say that overall I feel I played pretty well. I think not playiing for a while helped me as well as thiis forum. I think that I may have been following to many trends because at times it could get confusing when I had too many mixed signals. This is coincidence I am sure--but when I had a great deal of confliction in my trends it often led to a tie or a 1 point win.

So I guess what I take away from this trip is the importance of money management and discipline. I liked the pocketing my chips method because it helps with both.

As far as my trending method is concerned I am pretty pleased with. I don't think that I uncovered any unbeatable method of play--but I do feel I may have developed a solid method of play. My money management discipline could probably have some refinement, because I did fire off some pretty unresonable size bets, but fortunately for me I made the majority of my big bets.

Anyway-- good trip--good enough to have the pit bosses speeding up the dealer in an attempt to throw off my play. I love those guys lol

I think you did well.

Your money management is actually quite good in my opinion. It prevents you from turning a win into a loss.

And you made $1800 profit using a base of $15! This is quite good.

I think you're keeping track of too many trends to be honest. No wonder you were getting tired. Personally I'd drop the natural and tie tracking.

You mentioned that you made some pretty big bets, but if you stuck to your progression you wouldn't have made any large bets. Did you extend your progression or switch once you were ahead?

Towards the end of the trip I started to extend my progression. By this point I was playing with house money. Fortunately I hit my big bets, but it could have turned out differently. This was an area for improvement. My progression started looking too much like a martingale. Also, you may be right that I was trying to follow too much. But following so much did allow me to develop a sweet spot between the 20 and 60 hand mark. By around the 50 mark I was ready to get out because I was ahead and becoming exhausted following so many trends!!

Anyway, I'll try to work out any kinks and study my results in an effort to streamline my bet selection. Only discipline can make you stick to a conservative progression or a flat bet. And I have a tendency to start losing my discipline the longer I stay and play--so this is also an area for improvement.

Great Job. I like your idea of going with the strongest trend that is something that I have never put much thought into.

Congrats Georgiahurricane. Isn't it great to go home a winner? I guess all your studys and hard work is paying off. I hope you kick the casinos butt again and again.

Not only did you play a very heads up trip, but your assessment of your play was outstanding. We need to constantly and honestly critique ourselves and make every trip a learning experience. Your time management was excellent. You did a lot of things right and perhaps more importantly you have a darn good idea of what you did wrong.

Staying power is a virtue in this game. You MUST avoid over taxing yourself.

You are playing with purpose, study and a healthy attitude. I definitely see improvement in your future. You can get better at this forever.

Would you please tell Archer and Garn that I did not put you up to this post. They seem to suspect all winners of duplicity.

Thanks guys,

We've talked about how no one system can beat every shoe every time. So basically I played multiple systems at the same time paying attention to which was trending the strongest.

Hey--it worked this time, but i'm not naive enough to believe this is THE answer. I do believe I am laying a solid foundation for strong play and I credit this forum for improving my play as well as my practice at dublinbet and black orchid,

Thanks Ellis,

I can honestly say that no one put me up to this. If choose to believe me or not is up to you. Also I reiterate--this was one trip. Fortunes can always reverse. I will say that I credit a number of posters on this forum--they helped develop my desired style of play. I won't name the posters because of the fire storm it would unleash. I did bring back shoes--but most are only partials because onceIquit a shoe I have to get away from the table or else risking being sucked back in.

Heck-- I even trended myself or my accuracy level. Sunday and Wednesday everything was a struggle. It seemed I was trending between break even and negative. So when I was at break even or a little above I was more than happy to get out. Monday and Tuesday I could do no wrong. So I would occasionally increase my base units to take advantage of how I was trending.

Originally Posted by thegeorgiahurricane

I won't name the posters because of the fire storm it would unleash.

Ha, I don't blame you a bit. We all know who they were anyway. And we all know who they weren't.

A win like that leaves a certain taste in your mouth - a certain feel. Makes you want to take that feel with you - to resurrect it - to duplicate it - to improve on it. It leaves a bread crumb path - a certain familiarity.

Sure, we ALL slip up. But now, when we do slip up we know we are off path. We can feel it and redirect and find it again. And you know what? We slip up less and less as the path becomes more familiar. It's a start. The path you created will always be there. Nobody can erase it. Look for it. It's there!

Originally Posted by thegeorgiahurricane

Also I reiterate--this was one trip. Fortunes can always reverse.

Ha, I see this same post again and again almost word for word. Nearly all my students write such a post right after their first win. They are still in shock. They just did something they thought was impossible. But you know what? They never write that same post again. We are used to it. Whenever we see that post we just smile and make no comment. They'll find out soon enough.

Ha, I remember AD wrote nearly the same post. ONCE! Remember those days AD?

This is the most posts I've ever seen on this forum this early in the morning. Must be because we've finally got something good to talk about. But just wait. The naysayers are just waking up and trying to think of something nay to say.

I'm trying to hold them off but I got my hands full. Archer is over there trying to tell us what a bad thing trip reports are. God help us!

Originally Posted by thegeorgiahurricane

When I felt that I was mentally tired to the point that it was affecting my play I stopped playing.l

GH,

It's hard to believe that a "simple game" can be so tiring mentally, isn't it!! I'm usually ready for a break after the 3rd shoe and ready to head home after the 4th if it's been a particularly difficult day. It sounds like all that practice and experimenting on Orchid helped out.

Anyway, just wanted to chime in my congrats to you on a good job.

AD

Originally Posted by Ellis

Ha, I remember AD wrote nearly the same post. ONCE! Remember those days AD?

Yep, I believe I said something about how I didn't even care how much money I came away with, I was just very happy to see that I could go into the casino and come out beating three shoes! I was so focused on making sure the unit count stayed PLUS that the money aspect never really came into play until after the fact!

AD

Its an altogether different way of looking at the game. I've never heard of anyone else that plays this way. And I've never heard of anyone else that wins nearly as consistently as we do. And I've never heard of anyone else that bets as low as we do. Everyone else is looking at the very same systems I rejected 25 and 30 years ago. Didn't work then. They don't work now. But everyone needs to find that out for themselves. The way we play is not nearly as glamorous but it works.

Originally Posted by John1234

Great Job. I like your idea of going with the strongest trend that is something that I have never put much thought into.

What HAVE YOU put any thought into?

BTW, good to see you back... did you ask Mike to help you "un-ban" yourself? (Or did he do it all on his own?)

Things getting a bit "lonely" over there at www.sniperbaccarat.com ? (Like at the other scam-sites w/o a business-licence, etc.)

Lets think possitve here. The hurricane came and hit the bad boys hard. Georgia, You stand out among us as a very quality individule. Your on a win streak. Always think possitive. You can beat them again and again. You have the control to beat the bad boys. $1800 is a good profit that would make me smile ear to ear. Always think possitive.

Originally Posted by garnabby

What HAVE YOU put any thought into?

BTW, good to see you back... did you ask Mike to help you "un-ban" yourself? (Or did he do it all on his own?)

Things getting a bit "lonely" over there at www.sniperbaccarat.com ? (Like at the other scam-sites w/o a business-licence, etc.)

Wow Garnabby you sure are full of beans these days lol

i play with hurricane at the black orchard, he knows me by catamount. he is an excellent player with good ideas. looking foward to playing bac with him when i get a sufficient bankroll. this forum needs more honest approaches to the game, less arguing,less name calling. i agree with hurricane ellis and john have given some good insight to this game. also archer has too when he posts some of his ideas. i must admit i dont understand any of garnabys posts but than again i am not a mathmetician. hurricane keep up the good work see u at the black orchid

Originally Posted by garnabby

What HAVE YOU put any thought into?

BTW, good to see you back... did you ask Mike to help you "un-ban" yourself? (Or did he do it all on his own?)

Things getting a bit "lonely" over there at www.sniperbaccarat.com ? (Like at the other scam-sites w/o a business-licence, etc.)

No, things are just fine overthere. I just missed you ..I hope that you missed me as much as I missed you.