Thread: Garnabby the Plagiarist

Garnabby, I see that you are practicing Plagiarism on the internet. This has come to me from multiple faithful sources. In a way I don't blame you since you have nothing of your own to publish and thusly are reduced to quoting others who do.

The last two people who tried that ended up in US Federal Court and lost everything they owned including their computers and office equipment. No, you can't hide behind the Canadian flag. Canada has Plagiarism laws too.

Besides, you are doing the public a disservice. You are posting outdated material. Worse, a system taken out of context of a complete Baccarat course will do a player far more harm than good. They will have no idea when, where and how to use the system effectively. They will attempt it indiscriminately and lose. That will be your fault, Garnabby, not mine.

Plagiarism may seem like a harmless prank to you but bored Federal Courts love Plagiarism cases. They like to enlighten offenders to the serious nature of their crime. They come down hard.

I doubt if this news will surprise anyone on this forum or any other Baccarat forum. They all already have you pegged as a pathetic prankster rather than a serious contributer.

My lawyer, Arthur Goodman, is keeping a very interesting file on you. He made good money on the last two cases and looks forward to another. Everything you do gets back to him immediately. Also, he likes to demonstrate that the small fee I pay him to keep up my copyrights is money well spent.

This is a new low for you Garnabby. Your pathetic attemps to gain popularity are working alright but I don't think its the kind of reputation you envisioned. You are merely demonstrating that you have nothing of your own to offer and therefore must stoop to stealing the work of others - The lowest of the low. Keep it up. The bigger the file the more impressed the judge is.

To Mike and the members: that's the kind of person you allow on your forum. Proper discrimination has its benefits.

Originally Posted by Ellis

Garnabby, I see that you are practicing Plagiarism on the internet. This has come to me from multiple faithful sources. In a way I don't blame you since you have nothing of your own to publish and thusly are reduced to quoting others who do.

The last two people who tried that ended up in US Federal Court and lost everything they owned including their computers and office equipment. No, you can't hide behind the Canadian flag. Canada has Plagiarism laws too.

Besides, you are doing the public a disservice. You are posting outdated material. Worse, a system taken out of context of a complete Baccarat course will do a player far more harm than good. They will have no idea when, where and how to use the system effectively. They will attempt it indiscriminately and lose. That will be your fault, Garnabby, not mine.

Plagiarism may seem like a harmless prank to you but bored Federal Courts love Plagiarism cases. They like to enlighten offenders to the serious nature of their crime. They come down hard.

I doubt if this news will surprise anyone on this forum or any other Baccarat forum. They all already have you pegged as a pathetic prankster rather than a serious contributer.

My lawyer, Arthur Goodman, is keeping a very interesting file on you. He made good money on the last two cases and looks forward to another. Everything you do gets back to him immediately. Also, he likes to demonstrate that the small fee I pay him to keep up my copyrights is money well spent.

This is a new low for you Garnabby. Your pathetic attemps to gain popularity are working alright but I don't think its the kind of reputation you envisioned. You are merely demonstrating that you have nothing of your own to offer and therefore must stoop to stealing the work of others - The lowest of the low. Keep it up. The bigger the file the more impressed the judge is.

To Mike and the members: that's the kind of person you allow on your forum. Proper discrimination has its benefits.

sillE,

I'm flattered that you find it so important to try to discredit myself. But even accomplishing that could not make you into an honest person with a winning approach. But that's the cult-way of trying to portray everything in B & W, with yourself as the W? Felonies, FBI anti-terrorism, etc... the lingo of the cults. My god man, this is a baccarat-board... what the heck are you going on and on about?

Anyway, for the sake of some more fun "banter"... .

Better inform that attorney (w/o a client) of yours, lol, that 'plagiarism' is different from 'copyright infringement', if that is what you're trying to get at here. As why would i try to better my own reputation by another's widely-known-to-be-USELESS work(s)?

From Wikipedia, "Plagiarism is not the same as copyright infringement. While both terms may apply to a particular act, they are different transgressions. Copyright infringement is a violation of the rights of a copyright holder, when material protected by copyright is used without consent. On the other hand, plagiarism is concerned with the unearned increment to the plagiarizing author's reputation that is achieved through false claims of authorship.

Likewise, plagiarism has no standing as a criminal offense in the common law. Instead, claims of plagiarism are a civil law matter, which an aggrieved person can resolve by launching a lawsuit." ( Plagiarism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .)

There's a fuller outline of copyrighting in lay-terms, at 10 Big Myths about copyright explained .

Second, nothing of yours, literary or otherwise, ever had any value to protect (where legally-protectable at all)... likely the reason it was never registered, but instead made PUBLIC by YOURSELF (on your own board) or many others on one message-board or another, eg,
Ellis latest pitch, SKOR", at http://www.gamblersglen.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi?board=_master&action=opentopic&topic=965 &forum=Baccarat_Message_Board . And i am not profiting in any way by its dispersal, of whatever by whichever means... a necessary condition for that to be my problem here.

Third, excerpts are normally allowed... and everything when, eg, it were being passed along (specifically) to those already having the proper or extended possession of it, as your "faithful sources".

Fourth, and most-importantly, you're the one perpetrating the fraud of selling useless baccarat-systems as "systems which consistently win"... among many other crimes, eg, not operating a licensed business. In fact, the only reason the authorities have no real interest in any of that is that NONE of it amounted to ANYTHING. (And the casinos "love" you for it... what do they care that you "go around" writing how much they cheat.)

Fifth, at least two persons from your "faithful sources" have stepped forward to myself with offers of anything from your own private forum... which i have no interest in anyway. Hardly any crime there either.

Sixth, no fees are required to "keep up [my] copyrights"; and the "fee" to barely retain ANY lawyer is usually in the thousands of dollars... hardly a "small fee", especially to someone like yourself who, like johno, Mr J, and ADulay (bless his "sexually-confused soul"), can't post up even a current and valid driver's licence.

Brings up some "memories" though, like the thread about "More Ellis fun", at Gambler's Glen Message Boards : Baccarat Message Board : More Ellis Fun . Wonder whatever became of also that "investigation"?

I suppose, according to Ellis at least, another "story" in the works. But hey, you wrote it above, "I doubt if this news will surprise anyone on this forum or any other Baccarat forum. They all already have you pegged as a pathetic prankster rather than a serious contributer."

Hence, NOT EVEN YOU TAKE ME SERIOUSLY... so why would any judge, even were "the sky" really "falling" over there at "Beaten again by anyone trying, long before ever getting around to The $10-Casinos"?



Update: You know Ellis, i wish you WERE my next defendant/plaintiff, instead of another "tough" case "on my plate" in the real world. Takes "balls", because judges are a lot like those "baccarat-gods"... never know what they're going to do to [you/the other guy], or them we're supposed to be representing, after a "tough" case.

But Twister and anti twister and big twister and little twister and do the twist and and were all supposed to work lol

Garnabby contrived law aside, you know what you did. Everybody knows. It is dispicable and a true measure of the man. I have the right to copy and publish my stuff whenever and wherever. You don't. You have the right to publish YOUR stuff. You just don't have anything of your own. You are limited to quoting and copying others. Try thinking for yourself for once. Wikipedia is a poor substitute for brains. No amount of dancing around it changes the fact of your low life deed. It demonstrates the limit of your capabilities.

Thanks for your two cents natural 9. You couldn't play Twister if you had it written on the palm of your left hand. It takes brains. I gave up on you a long time ago. You deserve Garnabby. Lets see how that works for you.

Employed? Garnabby? Employers just aren't that stupid - at least not for long. That's how they got to be Employers. They want people who can think for themselves. They aren't going to wait around while Garnabby looks up everything in Wikipedia. Besides, Garnabby is a firm believer that people should not get paid for their work. So what good would it do him except maybe to keep him off the internet? On second thought, maybe thats not a bad idea. Ever notice how Garnabby goes on "vacation" every time a direct question is put to him. Nobody gets that much vacation. Maybe he's on permanent vacation???

Garnabby, go find somebody smarter than you. That will be easy. Then copy whatever they write. That's what you're good at.

And don't fly any planes to Dallas.

This is uglier than Grandma's underwear.

The feud continues, like a bad soap opera.

could it be the same person

Originally Posted by chiptup

The feud continues, like a bad soap opera.

LOL. I didn't realize what I was missing! I should tune in more frequently.

Twister isn't difficult to play. All of Ellis' methods over the last 15 years or so are just versions of the same method.

But guys, Garnabby is right! Ellis is basically full of it. And all this lawyer talk from him is just more pathology. You kiddin'? - Ellis could be hooked up to a lie detector test and say the moon is made of green cheese and the neede wouldn't budge! LOL

The guy is a master - he could sell ice to Eskimoes. John, you seem like a serious guy - I can't believe you stick up for him.

Anyway, Ellis is the gift that keeps on giving! But don't worry folks, Ellis is NOT going anywhere. He has been threateniing to leave this site for months - LOL. He will stick around - what else does he have to do up there in the middle of nowhere?

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And I can't believe Archer sticks up for Garnabby and his childish pranks. Archer has never been on my private forum and has no idea what we teach. Like Garnabby, he just makes up stuff as he goes to suit his fancy.

Archer believes in advantage bets in some shoes. This is the same as saying he believes in betting with the bias. He just said that a couple of threads ago.

I believe in the same thing as I've been saying right along.

Archer believes in low betting and high hands won ratio.

I believe in low betting and hands won ratio.

We both believe in the same general Bac principles.

Garnabby, on the other hand, thinks everything is purely random.

When Archer picks an argrgument with me he's really picking an argument with himself. He seems to think that arguing is the whole purpose of a forum. It's not us against us. Its us against them. That is the purpose of a Baccarat forum.

Garnabby is a plagiarist pure and simple. I know it. Garnabby knows it. Everyone on my forum knows it. Everyone on this forum knows it. Everyone on every forum knows it. This wasn't the first time. He sees it as a way to become popular on forums. Its the only way he has.

If Archer wants to defend this lowly childish practice that is his prerogative. But I don't think he's siding with plagiarism. I think he's merely siding against ME - as always. Archer sides against me on everything, even on the things we agree on. So what does that make Archer? Hypocrit comes to mind. He should get into politics.

Originally Posted by Ellis

And I can't believe Archer sticks up for Garnabby and his childish pranks. Archer has never been on my private forum and has no idea what we teach. Like Garnabby, he just makes up stuff as he goes to suit his fancy.

Archer believes in advantage bets in some shoes. This is the same as saying he believes in betting with the bias. He just said that a couple of threads ago.

I believe in the same thing as I've been saying right along.

Archer believes in low betting and high hands won ratio.

I believe in low betting and hands won ratio.

We both believe in the same general Bac principles.

Garnabby, on the other hand, thinks everything is purely random.

When Archer picks an argrgument with me he's really picking an argument with himself. He seems to think that arguing is the whole purpose of a forum. It's not us against us. Its us against them. That is the purpose of a Baccarat forum.

Garnabby is a plagiarist pure and simple. I know it. Garnabby knows it. Everyone on my forum knows it. Everyone on this forum knows it. Everyone on every forum knows it. This wasn't the first time. He sees it as a way to become popular on forums. Its the only way he has.

If Archer wants to defend this lowly childish practice that is his prerogative. But I don't think he's siding with plagiarism. I think he's merely siding against ME - as always. Archer sides against me on everything, even on the things we agree on. So what does that make Archer? Hypocrit comes to mind. He should get into politics.

Nope, Ellis. It's really about Baccarat. Please don't put words in my mouth. I really try NOT to do that with you. I try to document your own words and am sorry if I misunderstand sometimes.

Advantage betting and bias are not exactly the same but I see why you think that. It is easy to get confused. Let me explain. Advantage betting simply means that there is a specific bet(s) that have a positive expected value. So it seems that you are saying that in order for there to be an advantage bet there must be a bias since there cannot be a bias in a random distribution. That is logical enough. We can go on forever about that. People have examined live shoes and have shown that the cards are within the mathematical realm of randomness. Others have postulated that there are biases on a shoe to shoe basis even though examined together they are shown to be mathematically random. We can go on about that too. One of my main points with you really has nothing to do with chilidsh pranks no matter how you would like to bait me into having that kind of disucssion.

What I am saying is that IF one has a bias, whether from independent shoe or not one would also be able to qualify that bias. Allow me to explain further. Other than SAP which you have said shows a mechanical positive expectation (see the "Advertisement" thread - another Ellis contradiction) you have said no mechanical method exists and one must match a method to the shoe. Well you can't have it both ways Ellis! 1. Either there is a mechanical method that has a positive EV or not. and 2. If one has to choose a method there must either be a criteria of choice which then makes the choice mechanical and therefore programmable OR one is just making a guess and hoping he doesn't "make a mistake" as you say.

So all I am saying is that your methods are guess methods; all are versions of each other. I have never seen "The System" which you sold that wins Baccarat, Craps, Roulette but I have seen most others. They are cute little methods -I like them! I wouldn't pay for them!

So in the final analysis you aren't here teaching anything really. You pretend to teach but you are farming for clients and make no bones about it. You want to teach people how to guess and win. That's fine, too. But a duck is a duck.

RE: Garnabby. Recently you have taken the approach to invoke my name every time you invoke Garnabby's. It's the old divide and conquer tactic - very effective, too. I was going to do the following but then I just got bored; I was going to put together an Ellis FAQ of all the contradictory and off the wall things you say. Maybe Garnabby will do that.

So now John has become aggravated and has taken to attacking Garnabby on a personal level. I admit I don't real ALL the posts - not yours, not John's, not Garnabby's. Maybe he has but I read where John has actually weighed in on your beliefs such as casino orchestration, rigged games, etc. I think Garnabby's writing style is difficult to understand at times (at least for me) but he makes valid points. The latest about you suing him is an example. Your response is ridiculous - a real hoot, too. Any such civil litigation will go nowhere AND the idea that you have sued people in the past and "taken everything" they own is more Ellis nonsense. When you say the stuff you do what do you expect!!!!!!!!

So, yeah, I am a little mean to you. But I can't help it! You are the gift that keeps on giving. You are like Sarah Pallin - sounds good on the surface but as soon as you dig a little deeper. . .

Archer

Originally Posted by Ellis

Ever notice how Garnabby goes on "vacation" every time a direct question is put to him. Nobody gets that much vacation. Maybe he's on permanent vacation???

Well, i don't like spending all of my weekends here... if that's to which you referred.

But i do answer all [my email/questions such as your own, Ellis/etc] rather promptly, and usually once as to the point with all the required documentation... unlike the known trouble-makers who just can't let their own shortcomings be.

Originally Posted by usernametaken

This is uglier than Grandma's underwear.

But who is the real "usernametaken"? That's my #1 fun-riddle at this time.

Originally Posted by chiptup

The feud continues, like a bad soap opera.

Hey chiptup,

What do you do with all those systems? Or are you only into some sort of advertizing in general?

In any event, doesn't look like your $37+ "special" made it for you. (I wonder if Ellis bought in? Lol.)

Originally Posted by gerard711

could it be the same person

Are we all the same person? Like the famous mathematician/philosopher Rene Descartes asked, "Do i exist, is there a self?" Others have since asked, "Is there an other?"

In the end, i have come to conclude that each "is but isn't" the other(s), and "exists but doesn't".

In fact though, the philosophical arguments involved are quite complex... not even Ellis with his 160 IQ, whatever that means in his case, could begin to broach those.

But thanks gerard711, for another "interesting" post... but it's getting harder and harder to "make something" of some of those.

Originally Posted by John

What he fails to understand, is...

I think i understand you pretty well, don't you think?

Hey everyone else, let's take another look at someone who's completely "lost the plot"... even worse than old sillE, at http://www.gamblersglen.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi?board=_master&action=opentopic&topic=154 9&forum=General_Discussion . (johno down the John-Carlo doesn't even try to hide his recent shames.)

Maybe he's really that "screwed up" that he now thinks he's me... something like gerard711 thinks Ellis is?

What when someone discovers and posts some REAL baccarat-systems... who will be left to realize/utilize those???

But MAYBE that's what the johno's wanted all along... just to be the "one-eyed kings in their lands of the blind".

Sorry, but that's no longer good enough.

Originally Posted by Archer

The guy is a master - he could sell ice to Eskimoes.

Not really... if you're basically the only "voice" out there, and they're "addicted to more ice", then there will always be more than a few foolish Eskimo around who will give up their little "ice-houses" for it.

It's just that no one took the time to voice a different opinion long enough, and out in the open away from Ellis' cultish board... one who is slowly working toward something definite, and to whom the Ellis's will eventually be nothing more than footnotes dealt with as they arise.

Just look at johno... over 5 long years at the GG alone, and going "in reverse with Spike". (His best post was his first, which he deleted because he thought he was "giving something away"! Lol.)

That's a lot of wasted living, just like Ellis (, and the other scammers). And ever notice all the similarities amongst them, Ellis, Steve H., et al... in a perverse way they "feed off" each others' useless "promises".

Just like the politicians...

Originally Posted by Archer

You are like Sarah Pallin - sounds good on the surface but as soon as you dig a little deeper. . .

For sure... by now, Ellis, ADulay, and "gang" over at BTC likely have set-up their own little "tax-free, etc, haven" for all their win-just-about-every-game "suckers" (who knew better than the rest of the 6 billion of us, but JUST CAN'T CONVINCE US OF IT).