Has anyone played on Bet Phoenix?

[upsanddowns]

Recenlty finished two shoes at BetPhoenix tongith and they've gotten much faster with the deal. I think it's now under 30 seconds from hand to hand total!

It did used to be slow, but I think they got that part of their program up to speed now.

[John1234]

I played with fun money on bet phoenix and got up to $600,000. I eventually lost it because the feed kept going down. That is the reason I will not play real money. If I cashed a check for $600,000 I would be sending this post from jail. There tables are way too slow!!!!!!! but you can play all day and anyday, so it balances out.

why would u be sending the post from jail? Can we actually go to jail or something for playing online over here in the US?

[John1234]

BP also has live bingo now. It is really stupid but kind of funny to play.

[pitty1]

I like the broads.I suggest they wear tight shirts like" hooters".I don't like the disruptions..And those bac cards a so cool looking..like some board game u get at toys r us..but i think it has always been a 30 second deal...they do pause if nobody bets with real money.

[skylynesr]

Anybody still playing on this site? If you do, how's withdraw and depositing? what's the limit daily for withdrawing?

Thanks in advance
Skylyn

[ADulay]

Anybody still playing on this site? If you do, how's withdraw and depositing? what's the limit daily for withdrawing?

Thanks in advance
Skylyn

I'll just assume that you've actually gone to the BetPhoenix site, clicked on "Banking" and read the paragraph on getting paid by check.

Or maybe not.

With that said, yes, there are many of us (not necessarily here) who play on BetPhoenix and many times we're all on the same table at the same time working together.

Maximum payout (by check) is $2000 per week. One free check per month. As you've no doubt read the agreement, you've also seen the other various way to receive payments. I prefer the check.

The paperwork for US players is significant to avoid various illegal activities but once it is completed, it's pretty transparent.

If you should decide to play there, please take the time to read the requirements of the bonus system. I would recommend you not take ANY bonus moneys, but then I'm just there to play baccarat, not screw around with slots, soccer, Ethiopian cricket or Austraila's motorcar racing.

My monthly check gets sent out on the 25th as requested with no problems so far.

AD

[Archer]

Speaking of RNG, don't some online casinos use a 6 or 8 deck computerized shoe, rather than pure RNG, to simulate the game as closely as possible to a live draw? If so, how do the computerized shoe results compare to live draw results?

123Bingo does

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[Archer]

I'll just assume that you've actually gone to the BetPhoenix site, clicked on "Banking" and read the paragraph on getting paid by check.

Or maybe not.

With that said, yes, there are many of us (not necessarily here) who play on BetPhoenix and many times we're all on the same table at the same time working together.

Maximum payout (by check) is $2000 per week. One free check per month. As you've no doubt read the agreement, you've also seen the other various way to receive payments. I prefer the check.

The paperwork for US players is significant to avoid various illegal activities but once it is completed, it's pretty transparent.

If you should decide to play there, please take the time to read the requirements of the bonus system. I would recommend you not take ANY bonus moneys, but then I'm just there to play baccarat, not screw around with slots, soccer, Ethiopian cricket or Austraila's motorcar racing.

My monthly check gets sent out on the 25th as requested with no problems so far.

AD

It is my understanding that you cannot use Bonus to win real money unless you "Play Through" the requirement. Example: Say you put in 100.00 and they give you 200.00 bonus. That is 300.00. Multiply the 300.00 by the Play Through Amount (say it is 30 times) so that = 9000.00 You have to wager 9,000.00 before the bonus kicks in.

So say you wager 7,000.00 and your account balance shows you have won 3,000.00 for instance. You get no cash out at all. You got to wager the "Play Through" of 9,000.00 and win in order to cash out.

So the bonus is a good gamble on thier part! So the Bonus is baloney. If you can win then you don't need the bonus anyway!

A

PS Where is my friend Ellis all of a sudden - he sick or something or did he decide to finally teach Baccarat on his site?

[skylynesr]

I tried the free money play today. It seems like they have only 1 table running most of the times. It's either $5 - $500 or $300 - $5000. Am I wrong?

Skylyne

[wonSnoJ]

I have tested their wesbite out with the fake chips. The hands play obsurdly slow and there is frequent connection problems... everything from the server being down for hours, the socket not being able to connect even when the server is up and running, and being dropped during the game (not due to not betting). I also find the "verifying hand/cards dealt" thing annoying and opens up a loophole for them to drop your connection in order to refund large bets... not that it would be surprising with all their connection issues to begin with.

I'm sure they are fine if you plan on funding the account with $1,000 or under but anything beyond that I would be worried about. They have been known for scamming big winners and I'm sure the same goes for consistant winners.

Check out the SBR forums. There are multiple posts regarding hacked accounts where a sports bettor had his entire account disposed of in the casino or a bettor who has only ever bet on a single sport all the sudden jump to another sport and put all of his equity on the various bets.

I'm not saying don't use Bet Phoenix as you would likely be fine. I'm just letting you know what I've seen regarding their reputation. As far as I'm concerned, with the amount of complaints over at the SBR forum they definately should not be trusted with large sums of cash.

There is also a manager or a supervisor of some sort who posts completely unprofessional replies to the members of the SBR forum who have filed complaints. The fact that a person in a managerial position of the company is arguing on a forum to it's former clients shows a lot about how a company is run.

[skylynesr]

I have tested their wesbite out with the fake chips. The hands play obsurdly slow and there is frequent connection problems... everything from the server being down for hours, the socket not being able to connect even when the server is up and running, and being dropped during the game (not due to not betting). I also find the "verifying hand/cards dealt" thing annoying and opens up a loophole for them to drop your connection in order to refund large bets... not that it would be surprising with all their connection issues to begin with.

I'm sure they are fine if you plan on funding the account with $1,000 or under but anything beyond that I would be worried about. They have been known for scamming big winners and I'm sure the same goes for consistant winners.

Check out the SBR forums. There are multiple posts regarding hacked accounts where a sports bettor had his entire account disposed of in the casino or a bettor who has only ever bet on a single sport all the sudden jump to another sport and put all of his equity on the various bets.

I'm not saying don't use Bet Phoenix as you would likely be fine. I'm just letting you know what I've seen regarding their reputation. As far as I'm concerned, with the amount of complaints over at the SBR forum they definately should not be trusted with large sums of cash.

There is also a manager or a supervisor of some sort who posts completely unprofessional replies to the members of the SBR forum who have filed complaints. The fact that a person in a managerial position of the company is arguing on a forum to it's former clients shows a lot about how a company is run.

they seems solid to me..

BetPhoenix Payout Report - Page 3 - Sports Handicapping, Betting & Picks - SBR Forum

[green8]

I have tested their wesbite out with the fake chips. The hands play obsurdly slow and there is frequent connection problems... everything from the server being down for hours, the socket not being able to connect even when the server is up and running, and being dropped during the game (not due to not betting). I also find the "verifying hand/cards dealt" thing annoying and opens up a loophole for them to drop your connection in order to refund large bets... not that it would be surprising with all their connection issues to begin with.

I'm sure they are fine if you plan on funding the account with $1,000 or under but anything beyond that I would be worried about. They have been known for scamming big winners and I'm sure the same goes for consistant winners.

Check out the SBR forums. There are multiple posts regarding hacked accounts where a sports bettor had his entire account disposed of in the casino or a bettor who has only ever bet on a single sport all the sudden jump to another sport and put all of his equity on the various bets.

I'm not saying don't use Bet Phoenix as you would likely be fine. I'm just letting you know what I've seen regarding their reputation. As far as I'm concerned, with the amount of complaints over at the SBR forum they definately should not be trusted with large sums of cash.

There is also a manager or a supervisor of some sort who posts completely unprofessional replies to the members of the SBR forum who have filed complaints. The fact that a person in a managerial position of the company is arguing on a forum to it's former clients shows a lot about how a company is run.

I've been reading this forum for a long time but never joined until recently. In response to WonsnoJ post's, a lot of the SBR/Online Casinos ban players who win constantly or change their sports betting spreads. No manager of an online casino likes to see players constantly winning because they aren't making any money off the player. I've only used one site for Baccarat and they have both live/computer-generated Baccarat. Good luck with Bet Phoenix guys.

[skylynesr]

I've been reading this forum for a long time but never joined until recently. In response to WonsnoJ post's, a lot of the SBR/Online Casinos ban players who win constantly or change their sports betting spreads. No manager of an online casino likes to see players constantly winning because they aren't making any money off the player. I've only used one site for Baccarat and they have both live/computer-generated Baccarat. Good luck with Bet Phoenix guys.

Betphoenix seems fine to me.

BetPhoenix Payout Report - Page 4 - Sports Handicapping, Betting & Picks - SBR Forum

[wonSnoJ]

In response to WonsnoJ post's, a lot of the SBR/Online Casinos ban players who win constantly or change their sports betting spreads. I've only used one site for Baccarat and they have both live/computer-generated Baccarat. Good luck with Bet Phoenix guys.

What website do you happen to use for live Baccarat? The only online casinos that I've seen provide live Baccarat to U.S. players are Bet Phoenix and Bogart Casino which is also owned by Bet Phoenix. I don't believe any other online, live casinos exist for USA customers so I'm just curious.

In response to SBR/Online Casinos banning consistant players. The grade-A, 5 star books get good business and make up for any of the consistantly winning customers they may have because they choose to do business professionally which attracts a lot of customers and espcially high rolling bettors. I wouldn't have a worry in the world putting 100k into a 5dimes account, but anyone who dares to put 100k into a Bet Phoenix account is a lunatic after some of the pocket change I've heard them scamming on more than one occasion.

[green8]

You mentioned the one I use, 5dimes Casino. Before I played their computerized Baccarat, but now they have a Live Dealer Casino. I've cashed out several times from them through the past couple years, couple hundred at a time. Never cashed out 1k+, only small amounts at a time. If you know of any other good live casinos out there, let me know, I'm always willing to try.

[wonSnoJ]

You mentioned the one I use, 5dimes Casino. Before I played their computerized Baccarat, but now they have a Live Dealer Casino. I've cashed out several times from them through the past couple years, couple hundred at a time. Never cashed out 1k+, only small amounts at a time. If you know of any other good live casinos out there, let me know, I'm always willing to try.

Wow, I'll have to check them out... I didn't know they did live baccarat. I did have an account with them a couple years ago for sports betting. They have a perfect reputation I believe... only reason I chose them.

Do you know if they offer the ability to use fake chips or join a table with no money just to spectate? I'de be interested in seeing how fast the hands are dealt and how smooth the games operate overall. I wouldn't want to deposit money just to withdraw it again if their games didn't run well.

[green8]

I havent played their live baccarat yet, only the computerized. Here is what I found when I played their computerized baccarat. I deposited $100 and came up about $500 in one day, cashed out. The trends were easy to read, however, months later i re-deposited, LOST. Everytime I bet big...the other side would miraculously beat me by one point and LOST. I will be depositing soon for their live baccarat but haven't done so since I've been going to a local card room and been doing well there. I will let you guys know once I try out there live baccarat.

I logged on to my account at 5dimes and they kicked me out of the live baccarat table since I had insufficient funds. It might be my connection, the dealing was kind of laggy as I watched one hand. Hope that helps.

[Banker94]

At Bet Phoenix, is there a link to past live shoe history's for like the last week or 30 days.

Does anyone know of any online live casino that does have a file of the last xx # of shoes.

Thanks in advance for any help.
Banker94

[PoFoMoFo]

no i havent

[green8]

At Bet Phoenix, is there a link to past live shoe history's for like the last week or 30 days.

Does anyone know of any online live casino that does have a file of the last xx # of shoes.

Thanks in advance for any help.
Banker94

I recently signed up for BetPhoenixCasino, owned by BetPhoenix. The online casino i played at was RNG Baccarat. I lost the $100 I deposited to test out there casino. I like it and I will deposit more in the future. Also, the RNG Baccarat has a past shoe history per game. Each time you log out and log back in to play, there is a new shoe and scoreboard.

They are in the phase of creating a Live Dealer casino for BetPhoenixCasino. I will post screenshots later of the Live Dealer casino when they have it done in the next month or so, whenever that is.

Can someone tell me if they have won at the original BetPhoenix site?

[joshky]

Yes green. I have read around here and on other boards of the success that some have had with BetPhoenix. Not too sure of the long term thing.

[ADulay]

I recently signed up for BetPhoenixCasino, owned by BetPhoenix. The online casino i played at was RNG Baccarat. I lost the $100 I deposited to test out there casino. I like it and I will deposit more in the future.
Can someone tell me if they have won at the original BetPhoenix site?

Uh, you might want to double check your web sites there.

BetPhoenix and BetPhoenixCasino are TWO DIFFERENT sites.

I believe that most of us are playing at BetPhoenix.com and not the other one. BetPhoenix is the one with the live tables.

I made a similar mistake when I tried to log in to the other one and wound up calling/chatting with their help line before it dawned on me I had typed in the incorrect site. So, plan accordingly and make sure your website bookmark is correct.

Also, so far, everyone I've talked with who also plays for money on BetPhoenix has been paid when requested, including me.

AD

[green8]

Thanks Adulay. Looks like I've been playing at the other BetPhoenixCasino and not the one you guys have been playing at. I'll try the casino you guys play at. How much at most have you guys cashed out?

[ADulay]

How much at most have you guys cashed out?

Well, I've cashed out for $2,000,000 the other day and a few of my friends are weaker players and they cashed out for just under the $1,000,000 mark.

What an odd question to ask a total stranger.

Seriously, if you'll actually read the payout terms, you can get one FREE check a month. Minimum is $500 and maximum is $2000 for the free monthly check. They also pay via the usual electronic things but there are fees involved with those so I'm strictly the monthly check type.

I take a free one every month. Your mileage may vary.

Be sure and READ the terms of the agreement when you sign up, especially if you decide to take any of the bonus money offered. I did NOT take any bonus money and have had no problems getting paid.

AD

[green8]

Thanks Adulay again for the advice. It may be an odd question but the reason why i ask is, some times don't they give you a hard time if you keep on cashing out large amounts? But yea, I will let you know how it goes at the casino once i deposit there.

[BacQueen]

Hello, I play all the time with Bet Phonix, live in CA.... no problem with money gram or a free once a month check, any other questions I would be happy to answer. BacQueen

[ADulay]

Thanks Adulay again for the advice. It may be an odd question but the reason why i ask is, some times don't they give you a hard time if you keep on cashing out large amounts? But yea, I will let you know how it goes at the casino once i deposit there.

Green,

You know, most of the stories about people getting a hard time taking money from the casinos is second hand or third hand stories somebody got from a friend.

As I mentioned earlier, I've got about a dozen friends all playing online for money and none of them has had any problems getting paid when requested.

If there are people here, in this forum, who are having problems getting paid, I'd sure like them to post up the problems and the details so we can make sure to weed out the "bad" online plays.

AD

[Archer]

Green,

You know, most of the stories about people getting a hard time taking money from the casinos is second hand or third hand stories somebody got from a friend.

As I mentioned earlier, I've got about a dozen friends all playing online for money and none of them has had any problems getting paid when requested.

If there are people here, in this forum, who are having problems getting paid, I'd sure like them to post up the problems and the details so we can make sure to weed out the "bad" online plays.

AD

Good point. I suppose if there was bad press regarding online play from members here we would hear about it.

I play on two casinos and have had no problem getting checks though it wold be nice if we could get them more than once a mnth but it seems that is the industry standard.

I don't play big as I am always concerned about cheating via an algorithm program they could install to allow subtle losses on larger bets.

Also, just like in land casinos I can't see online casinos allowing players to profit much beyond the statistical mean. It would take a lot of hands played to get there but eventually consistent winning could raise a red flag if they choose to monitor it.

Archer

[skylynesr]

Has anyone having problems with viewing the table scoreboard without playing? Somehow I have to click on "play now" to view the scoreboard.

skylyne