Thread: Bank Bets Only

Hi all, read another strategy, here goes.

Wait for 1 bank to appear then keep betting bank until streak ends. Sit out all player streaks. Bet using regression eg: $50, 20, 30, 40, 50....
Stop if loss 3 times in a row.

Seems like a viable way to play.

All comments welcome.

Fann

Originally Posted by BaccaratFann

Hi all, read another strategy, here goes.

Wait for 1 bank to appear then keep betting bank until streak ends. Sit out all player streaks. Bet using regression eg: $50, 20, 30, 40, 50....
Stop if loss 3 times in a row.

Seems like a viable way to play.

All comments welcome.

Fann

Well, time to start this one up again.

Although it looks good initially, the big killer with this would be the ZZ runs, in which something like BPBPB P gives you your stop loss.

Might be something fun to play with while waiting for a short while but then I'd play it on the Player side, just to avoid the commission as the bets are pretty even anyway.

Hmmm, just looked at the last sheet from last night on the top of the desk and it pulled +42 on the Player side using your 5,2,3,4,5, etc money management!

The Player/Banker count was 37 to 34 so it wasn't a runaway Player shoe by any means!

AD

Originally Posted by BaccaratFann

Seems like a viable way to play.

All comments welcome.

Fann

Well, it was raining here so I had some free time and an Excel sheet to test against with live shoes.

Ran a very quick 2000 hands (not shoes) on the Player side and again on the Bank side. Betting 1,2,3,4,5, etc and back down 2 with a win.

Player came out +6 (OK, so that's not going to make you rich overnight)
Bank came out +167. Now that does look a little better.

I think that'll round out to about +5 per shoe or close to it.

Hey, I've seen worse!!

AD

Originally Posted by ADulay

Ran a very quick 2000 hands (not shoes) on the Player side and again on the Bank side. Betting 1,2,3,4,5, etc and back down 2 with a win.

Player came out +6 (OK, so that's not going to make you rich overnight)
Bank came out +167. Now that does look a little better.
AD

Of those 2000 hands, what was the longest losing streak where two Bankers in a row did not appear?

In other words, P-B-P-B would be two losses. P-B-P-B-B would be a win of two Bankers in a row.

Depending on the length of the losing streak, the units won could be at least double your +167.

Brian

Originally Posted by briang57

Of those 2000 hands, what was the longest losing streak where two Bankers in a row did not appear?

In other words, P-B-P-B would be two losses. P-B-P-B-B would be a win of two Bankers in a row.

Depending on the length of the losing streak, the units won could be at least double your +167.

Brian

No, I don't think that's correct.

P-B-P-B-B would be a loss at hand 3, hand 4 resets the B count and hand 5 is a win.

P-B-P-B-B P-P-B-B-B would come out as...

loss at hand 3, hand 4 resets the B count, hand 5 wins, hand 6 loses, 7 is a no bet, 8 is a no bet but resets the B count, 9 is a win, 10 is a win and continues on until a P ends that streak.

Can anyone confirm what the betting sequence is for this?

AD

Hi A.D.,

Sorry for the confusion. The example I showed you was how my progression works.

In your 2,000 hands test, what was the longest streak of two Bankers not appearing in a row? Anytime two Bankers in a row appear it is a win and you would start over.

Every win is a net 3-Unit win after losses. So we don't want long runs of Players without two in a row Bankers showing up. so it might look like:
P-B-P-P-B-P-B-B (Win after two bankers in a row.)
L L L L Four Losses before the win.

-25-35-45-60 (+80x4)= +320-245= +75
Plus 3-Units on a $25 Base Bet

Let me know if this makes more sense.

Thanks,
Brian

Originally Posted by briang57

Hi A.D.,

Sorry for the confusion. The example I showed you was how my progression works.

In your 2,000 hands test, what was the longest streak of two Bankers not appearing in a row? Anytime two Bankers in a row appear it is a win and you would start over.

Every win is a net 3-Unit win after losses. So we don't want long runs of Players without two in a row Bankers showing up. so it might look like:
P-B-P-P-B-P-B-B (Win after two bankers in a row.)
L L L L Four Losses before the win.

-25-35-45-60 (+80x4)= +320-245= +75
Plus 3-Units on a $25 Base Bet

Let me know if this makes more sense.

Thanks,
Brian

I have personally seen live 10-12 banker singles in a row before you see 2 in a row bankers....Actually, I have seen it multiple times....

Originally Posted by briang57

Hi A.D.,

Sorry for the confusion. The example I showed you was how my progression works.

In your 2,000 hands test, what was the longest streak of two Bankers not appearing in a row? Anytime two Bankers in a row appear it is a win and you would start over.

Every win is a net 3-Unit win after losses. So we don't want long runs of Players without two in a row Bankers showing up. so it might look like:
P-B-P-P-B-P-B-B (Win after two bankers in a row.)
L L L L Four Losses before the win.

-25-35-45-60 (+80x4)= +320-245= +75
Plus 3-Units on a $25 Base Bet

Let me know if this makes more sense.

Thanks,
Brian

Brian,

Yep, I'm confused.

Are you betting on the Player every time? I thought this only started wagering AFTER a Bank showed up.

I just finished a run at BetPhoenix tonight (+19 thank you) and back tested it as per my description of your plan and it produced +26!

Now we just have to figure out which way to run it? I didn't think there were any Player bets involved other than the eventual losing bet to stop the Bank streak.

AD

Originally Posted by ADulay

Brian,

Yep, I'm confused.

Are you betting on the Player every time? I thought this only started wagering AFTER a Bank showed up.
NOT BETTING ON PLAYER.

I just finished a run at BetPhoenix tonight (+19 thank you) and back tested it as per my description of your plan and it produced +26!
SEND ME THE SHOE & I'LL CHECK IT.

Now we just have to figure out which way to run it? I didn't think there were any Player bets involved other than the eventual losing bet to stop the Bank streak.
THAT'S RIGHT. REMEMBER ONE BANKER IN A ROW IS A LOSER, TWO BANKERS IN A ROW ARE A WINNER. USE A PARLAY PROGRESSION THAT WIPES OUT ANY LOSSES. CHOOSE HOW HIGH YOU WANT TO GO WITH IT. GETTING 10 COMPLETED PARLAYS IN A SHOE YIELDS +30 UNITS. SOME SHOES WILL LOSE BUT NOT OFTEN ENOUGH TO WIPE OUT YOUR WINNINGS. WIN 9 SHOES =+270 UNITS LOSE 1 SHOE -93 (TWELVE LEVELS) PLUS COMMISSION.

AD

I sent you a PM with my phone number attached if you want to call to discuss other strategies like suspending play after "X" amount of losses then resuming after a paper win. Or other Bet Selection methods that may do well with this progression. Thanks...Brian

Briang57,

OK, I think I see where the confusion is coming in. You're doing a parlay and I'm just flat betting it with the 1,2,3 progression on a loss.

Here's a transcribed shoe from BetPhoenix last night with my take on how it runs according to the first message in this thread.

Maybe some of the others will want to run with it, modify it or bring it along. It's great for a streaky shoe for sure!!

Click on the thumbnail to see the scorecard.

AD

Originally Posted by ADulay

Briang57,

Maybe some of the others will want to run with it, modify it or bring it along. It's great for a streaky shoe for sure!!

AD

I ran it with the Parlay prog for plus +32 Units under your rules if you play it all the way to the last hand. It got to the 4th Level twice.

It's best to quit after +30 units or 60 hands to avoid running out of cards while waiting to complete a parlay at the end of shoe.

I never stop on a winning streak. I play until it loses. Your shoe won through +30 units up to +33 then won the front end of another parlay before losing.

Plus 33 with a 93 unit buy-in is fantastic. Roughly every three winning shoes makes you another buy-in.

I use a bet selection method that covers both sides P & B plus Chop. Got to +30 in your shoe at hand #52. Saves commission on the winning Player hands.

I'm open to anyone who has a system that works with this. Anyone that wants a chart of the progression I will send it to you.

I have $1, $2, $3, $4, $5, $6, $7, $8, $9, $10, $15, $20, $25, $50, $100 Charts. I know you can figure it out but this will save you some time.

Thanks for sending the shoe A.D.

Brian M.
(Not to be confused with Bryan 85% Winners playing 3-5 hands per shoe)

Originally Posted by briang57

I ran it with the Parlay prog for plus +32 Units under your rules if you play it all the way to the last hand. It got to the 4th Level twice.

It's best to quit after +30 units or 60 hands to avoid running out of cards while waiting to complete a parlay at the end of shoe.

I never stop on a winning streak. I play until it loses. Your shoe won through +30 units up to +33 then won the front end of another parlay before losing.

Plus 33 with a 93 unit buy-in is fantastic. Roughly every three winning shoes makes you another buy-in.

I use a bet selection method that covers both sides P & B plus Chop. Got to +30 in your shoe at hand #52. Saves commission on the winning Player hands.

I'm open to anyone who has a system that works with this. Anyone that wants a chart of the progression I will send it to you.

I have $1, $2, $3, $4, $5, $6, $7, $8, $9, $10, $15, $20, $25, $50, $100 Charts. I know you can figure it out but this will save you some time.

Thanks for sending the shoe A.D.

Brian M.
(Not to be confused with Bryan 85% Winners playing 3-5 hands per shoe)

Thank you very much for your offered. Please send me the charts for $25, $50 and $100 please.