Thread: How BF Players are doing at BTC

As most of you know, AD from Baccarat Forums, joined my forum beatthecasino.com last August. After much study and $5 practice AD began playing in earnest at green keeping flawless records of every shoe played.

BTW, I highly, highly recommend all players keep accurate records of all play. This does wonders for your ability to maintain your discipline under all circumstances.

AD is one of our most serious and most conservative members. He has adapted one of our several approaches of play to his comfort level and to the casino he plays. He has posted many of his actual casino shoes. That is one advantage we have over BF. We CAN and often DO post shoes.

All I will tell you about his approach is that it is fully documented in our private forum and it involves playing short term biases - trends.

AD recently posted his actual precise record of his first 150 shoes:

Quote:
"Overall, for the 150 shoes, it’s running at 83.4% and +975."
End Quote.

$24,375 in less than 6 months for a $500 investment is not too shabby is it.

Now I'm sure that AD would post this here himself except he gets harrassed by one of the members here most every time he posts. This member considers AD some kind of defector. I consider AD just another student who wants to know how to win and willing to put in the effort to learn. Me, with my 30 year play record, I'm completely immune to harrassment. I simply look at their record or lack thereof.

AD, please correct me if I say anything here not totally accurate.

That number 83% keeps popping up on our forum regardless how conservative or how aggressive a member plays. It's like some sort of invisible barrier we can't seem to get past.

But we seem to be the only group knocking at that particular door. All others seem to be knocking way back at a 51% door. We can't even hear them.

Oh, other x members of BF are also doing well with us but they don't post here any more so I'll honor their choice.

Random theorists and the "this game can't be beat" crowd can make of this whatever you want. Me, I plan to go right on teaching our approaches. They seem to work pretty damn good to me and to my members. Yet we are still the only one's teaching them.

Originally Posted by Ellis

AD, please correct me if I say anything here not totally accurate.

The only thing you left out is that the "comp" for dinner got better when I moved to the green table!

AD

Originally Posted by Ellis

As most of you know, AD from Baccarat Forums, joined my forum beatthecasino.com last August. After much study and $5 practice AD began playing in earnest at green keeping flawless records of every shoe played.

BTW, I highly, highly recommend all players keep accurate records of all play. This does wonders for your ability to maintain your discipline under all circumstances.

AD is one of our most serious and most conservative members. He has adapted one of our several approaches of play to his comfort level and to the casino he plays. He has posted many of his actual casino shoes. That is one advantage we have over BF. We CAN and often DO post shoes.

All I will tell you about his approach is that it is fully documented in our private forum and it involves playing short term biases - trends.

AD recently posted his actual precise record of his first 150 shoes:

Quote:
"Overall, for the 150 shoes, it’s running at 83.4% and +975."
End Quote.

$24,375 in less than 6 months for a $500 investment is not too shabby is it.

Now I'm sure that AD would post this here himself except he gets harrassed by one of the members here most every time he posts. This member considers AD some kind of defector. I consider AD just another student who wants to know how to win and willing to put in the effort to learn. Me, with my 30 year play record, I'm completely immune to harrassment. I simply look at their record or lack thereof.

AD, please correct me if I say anything here not totally accurate.

That number 83% keeps popping up on our forum regardless how conservative or how aggressive a member plays. It's like some sort of invisible barrier we can't seem to get past.

But we seem to be the only group knocking at that particular door. All others seem to be knocking way back at a 51% door. We can't even hear them.

Oh, other x members of BF are also doing well with us but they don't post here any more so I'll honor their choice.

Random theorists and the "this game can't be beat" crowd can make of this whatever you want. Me, I plan to go right on teaching our approaches. They seem to work pretty damn good to me and to my members. Yet we are still the only one's teaching them.

Hey, even the administrator noticed the "no baccarat-content" in that post... he moved it to the "Shooting the Breeze" section, lol. (Note the edit at the bottom of Ellis' post.)

Give it up Ellis, or ADulay, or ACqueen, or whomever you are/were... i doubt that the definition of liar/fool can be expanded upon.

Garnabby, I was expecting a more robust reply out of you - something more substantial than a semantical argument. So you convinced Mike that a Baccarat play record is not about Baccarat. Good for you. But then that eliminates ALL of your posts. Lets see if Mike gives you equal consideration. The players know.

Mike, its about playing trends vs playing purely mechanical. It's about which is the best approach to Baccarat. I've posted the winning play record of a player playing one way. No one has ever posted a winning play record playing the other way. I don't think there is anything more pertinent to the subject of Baccarat - but it's your forum. I will abide by any explanation you can muster. But I think an explanation is in order. Don't you?

Originally Posted by Ellis

So you convinced Mike that a Baccarat post is not a Baccarat post and Baccarat play records are not about Baccarat

It appears Mike figured that out on his own.

Thanks for filling in what i left out previously... also that "a Baccarat post is not a Baccarat post" when it's one of your "master-pieces".

You're the only one i know of who can pull off that sort of "semantics".

Originally Posted by garnabby

Give it up Ellis, or ADulay, or ACqueen, or whomever you are/were... i doubt that the definition of liar/fool can be expanded upon.

What in the heck are you mumbling about?

Also, what or who is ACqueen?

Why are you in this conversation?

Oh yeah, where do you play baccarat at? I don't believe I've ever heard you say where you play, assuming you do.

No wonder everybody stops posting after their first few posts. It's almost pointless to continue with you here constantly making incomprehensible things up for some unknown reason.

AD