Thread: Pendulum Baccarat by Harry Carmony

Hello everyone,

I am a new member. I am not promoting this system in anyway. I know this is my first post. I tried doing a search on this very nice forum to
see if there was any information about this system but I did not see any.

I was wondering if anyone has any information on this system and would share whatever experience they have with it.

Well, I was going to send him the money but the spelling error in the first paragraph made me think he was just not quite what he was representing himself as.

I think he needs some testimonials from winners.

However, if he can produce at least one millionaire in 8 weeks (according to his instructions), I'll be impressed for sure!

AD (kind of bored tonight)

I love that he uses a gmail email account for payment.. LOL

Viperml, Hold back on the your cash. Dont pay a Dime for any system until they can show you upfront that it works. the pendulum theorey is correct to a certain extent. But who knows how far that pendulum will swing? You never know until you put your money down. Is it a negative progression system? Think real hard. ALL NEGATIVE SYSTEMS HIT A BREAKING POINT. I sure hope its not a Marty system and I hope your best bet is a D Alam because it will last a lot longer but will still loose in the long run. My suggestion is DO NOT BUY IT

We could get 20 people to split on it, then give everyone the system.... This is how they do it at many sports betting sites for cappers picks, they split the fee and then send out the picks daily.

Originally Posted by ADulay

Well, I was going to send him the money but the spelling error in the first paragraph made me think he was just not quite what he was representing himself as.

I think he needs some testimonials from winners.

However, if he can produce at least one millionaire in 8 weeks (according to his instructions), I'll be impressed for sure!

AD (kind of bored tonight)

And third grade grammatical errors galore but perhaps he is not native English speaking.

But I have found fractional player advantages virtually impossible to prove. The first thousand shoes go one way and the next thousand the other. And he doesn't mention commission. Pretty scarey.

Originally Posted by Ellis

And third grade grammatical errors galore but perhaps he is not native English speaking. Pretty scarey.

Ya, like omitting the hyphen in "third-grade"; and misspelling the word "scary", etc. So much wrong with that short note... it's scary.

But who's writing/editing your stuff now, Ellis... i mean it's nothing like you normally mangle it, but still grade-school ("run-on") material.

(Ever notice that when the scammers get a "sucker" on the line, enters some sort of wannabe english major? Where's that Danielsan when you need him? Lol.)

After reading the Pendulum site, it reminded me of the elements of a very old system by a notorious Spaniard, the infamous gambler, Thomas (perhaps spelled Tomas) Garcia (in the 1850's and 60's). He was one of those guys with the reputation of having broken the bank in Hamburg casinos a few times, but who ended up a pauper. In another posting of mine (you can search my few posts), I described another method of Garcia's, but that other one is not the one that was similar what was described on the Pendulum site.

Here is what I was reminded of: Garcia was quite fond of chip stack splitting methods and he had a system which involved working with a stake of 9 units and making two bets, first 3 and if that lost then 6 (perhaps that is the maximum bet of 6 units they are talking about). Next, it always involved a parlay after any win. Any of those parlayed wins, becomes your new "stake" and you then bet it one-third of that. If that first third loses, you bet the remaining two thirds. Any win is your new stake (and you divide it into 1/3 and 2/3). As long as you can continue without experiencing two losses in succession, your bankroll grows and grows. But, after any two losses in succession, you are wiped out on that exercise and you start over with another 9 unit "stake." It requires a bet selection which hopes for a streak of either successive wins or wins followed by single losses (either of those situations and you stay "alive"). You set a win goal so that you hopefully stop soon enough each parlay run (oh, but it is so hard to stop). But, a few successful parlays and you can win repeatedly amplifying your bankroll. Where to stop... that's the key.

Example: a 17 hand run without experiencing two losses in succession (but, remember, lots of single losses are no problem) would take a 9 unit stake to 202 units, perhaps too ambitious a goal... but that's just to illustrate.

Two things are critical -

a. Having a bet selection which will hopefully bring you streaks of at least 4 or so hands without double losses.

b. Having the will power to quit soon enough on any "run."

Maybe you can be like old Thomas Garcia and break the bank at one of your favorite casinos... who knows?

For any so called "working" system on sale, I just couldn't resist to keep asking this question: if it does work why bother selling to others? Keep it to himself and make himself Billionaire; after that he might think about to sell it because he has earned enough.

Only 510 (shoes?) results there for proof is just like a joke to me. Well if he did win on those 510 shoes then I am not convinced of it can work for next 500 shoes.

Hey,

I just received Pendulum baccarat. Are there any programmers that can run it through the Zumma testers to see how it does? Supposedly it is supposed to beat Zumma with 5 units/shoe average. It is not that complicated.

How much did you pay for it?

What difference does that make?

Originally Posted by Teo2

Hey,

I just received Pendulum baccarat. Are there any programmers that can run it through the Zumma testers to see how it does? Supposedly it is supposed to beat Zumma with 5 units/shoe average. It is not that complicated.

Wouldn't the people who sell/designed the system have those results?

I had always assumed that the "Zumma" books were the standard to test against for baccarat systems.

AD

Doing this for years now I know that you can NEVER trust a system seller with respect to their performance on the Zumma tester books. Izak has lied in the past, as has the creator of UPB saying his system got 1-2 units per shoe after commission, when in reality it failed miserably.

It is kind of sad that a person has to test the system to keep the seller honest, but it is the only way to do it.

hv u tried

I had Pendulum baccarat tested against both Zumma tester books, as well as 10K RNG shoes.

Negative results in everything. Absolutely no advantage there. Waste of time for me and everyone involved.

When you are going to buy a system, maybe think about the question like this before pay for it. If it works why he bother selling it? If something does work, it won't for sell, or not sell for cheap, or he is tired of winning with it.

I would like to give thanks to ayuinca who tested the system for me. He has great words of wisdom in his posts, particularly his last one.

The sales copy is good for a chuckle.

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The "Experts" say: "No baccarat system works. It is not a game that is amenable to being beaten because the draw rules and scoring system make it essentially random".

I say: "There is a point in any random event where the pendulum swings back to center. It is not there long, but if you know where and when to bet you will beat the game of baccarat".

Even though the word system is used here a few times for the sake of search engines to bring you here - Pendulum Baccarat is a strategy, as opposed to a system. There are lots of profitable strategies for beating the casinos, but zero profitable betting systems.

Did you know that there are professional gamblers who do make a living at the casino?

The "Winners" find a way to be like the casino; they gain a small advantage and play it as often as possible.

What this system offers is the opportunity for you to do just that...To work that small advantage into a consistent profit. This baccarat strategy will give you a mathematical advantage. I have done all the research. The system is designed to be a winner.

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It is absolutely possible to have 9 or even 10 winning shoes(games) out of 10... All you need is to know the secret and exact betting algorithm.

You will be a lethal weapon to the casino when you play with this easy to learn strategy.

The bets in this system are based on a degree of probability of over 99%. Therefore most hands win. You only bet when certain situations exist.

This baccarat strategy works on both choppy shoes and games with streaks. This is the only system available that works during either condition.

Finally, a baccarat gambling system that wins over time.

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This gambling system makes you the casino. You have a positive advantage and can play as much and as long as you like.

Until now, ALL baccarat systems have been based on the wrong premise.

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Pendulum is garbage. Santa Claus baccarat looks like garbage.

A warning to all out here. Thank you Teo.

Thanks joshky. Pendulum is very similar to Santa Claus baccarat, and I believe they are both sold by the same person(s).

In the website of Santaclaus baccarat, the results of Zumma 600 are given for each shoe. The total for 600 shoes is 2761 at an average of 4.6 units per shoe. Has anybody checked the results? The results given are very impressive.

I guess the system was developed to beat Zumma 72 days, so the real test will be if it can beat the 1000 Shoe zumma book, at least.

Developer indicated to me that he will post result for 1000 shoe, but so far no result provided.

Testing should emulate real casino playing conditions so that any unknown factor will be included in results. So keep the trigger and placement intra-shoe. Also, any shoe-based profit or stop loss targets may significantly affect overall results.

I have to agree with Teo2 and joshky here. The two Zumma testers favor streak because they were recorded in Vegas during the streaky era. Any streak system will do well such as TB4L. I would advise you test it against your own recent shoe collection to see how it really performs in today's casino conditions. A word to the wise.

No, the Zumma testers do not favor streaks. The overall stats are right in line with what you would expect in 1600 shoes. NO system I have ever seen has beaten both Zumma's flat betting.

Both Zumma books provide data to which we all can check any alleged results. (Independently verifiable).

The rules of Baccarat not changed since books published, so a good first test for any system, which can always be further tested against more live data of player's own experience, of course.... this is not mutually exclusive

Originally Posted by Ellis

I have to agree with Teo2 and joshky here. The two Zumma testers favor streak because they were recorded in Vegas during the streaky era. Any streak system will do well such as TB4L. I would advise you test it against your own recent shoe collection to see how it really performs in today's casino conditions. A word to the wise.

Streak era huh what a load of rubbish next thing you will be saying that there is casino orchestrationoh I forgot you already did

Streak era? u mean like the keystone cops period? hey anything and anytime..Last couple of days I played on shoes with 13 chops(in a row) and another chopped 14..Math says should not occur only once every hundred or something shoes..which did not happen or there was some kind of time warp going on.

Natural9 and Pity 1, if you were old enough which you obviously aren't; and if you knew the history of the game which you obviously don't and if you were students of the game which you obviously aren't, you would be familiar with the streak era of Baccarat in the US. We were seeing 9 in a rows far, far too often, and you couldn't get through a full day of Baccarat W/O seeing a 20 something in a row both in AC and Vegas in the only two states where gambling was legal at that time. That is when the Zumma testers were recorded - long before your time.

Many system designers made the mistake of designing around the Zumma testers. Most players at that time, including me, were killing the game with up as you win Fibonaccis on repeats. But the casinos reacted by going from the one universal Bac shuffle to the 8 standard BJ shuffles and successfully got rid of the runs that were killing them. 20 in a rows vanished virtually overnight.

But hey, since you insist on acting like little kids and follow Archer and Garnabby's lead, and refuse to learn anything, be my guest. Play this Pendulum system until you run out of money. It would serve you right.

Just because something happened before you were of age doesn't mean it didn't happen and you can't learn from it. But to ignore history just because you weren't there is childish and foolish.

Many members on my forum were there and played through this era with me. Or, of course we could all be lying about it as Garnabby says. Well, ask yourself this: To what purpose? People who ignore history are destined to make the same mistakes all over again.

We could be lying about World War 2 as well. So, don't believe us. Learn the hard way. See if I care. But anyone who doesn't learn from history is too childish to be taught anything. Pick another game more suited to your mentalities. Try marbles.