Thread: How do you play a shoe

Hello to all fellow baccarateers

I like to dicuss with fellow members here how u play a shoe

If shoe starts with

1> B yr N/B is .. B or P...... why u bet [B] why u bet P
1> P yr N/B is .. B or P...... why u bet [B] why u bet P
or u wait 1 hand

2 > BB yr N/B is .. B or P...... why u bet [B] why u bet P
2 > BP yr N/B is .. B or P...... why u bet [B] why u bet P
or u wait 1 hand

3 > BBB / PPP yr N/B is ...why u bet [B] why u bet P or stop bec.....
3 > BBP / PPB yr N/B is .. why u bet [B] why u bet P or stop bec.....
3 > BPB / PBP yr N/B is .. why u bet [B] why u bet P or stop bec.....
3 > PBB / BPP yr N/B is .. why u bet [B] why u bet P or stop bec.....

4> BBBB / PPPP ..steak formation have already won 2 hands
4> BBBP / PPPB
4> BBPB / PPBP


keep doing this way until u reach group 8

after that alway try to memories yr bets behavior

each bet place ask why u bet this

eg bpb pp b now what u bet bet ppbb for 2x2 or bet bpp bp

ask why. eg, dbl , odbl or ftl or signum or B/P dominating in running mode
depends on yr bet selection.
after many many hours of practicing u go train again in online
u will find yrself very confident in placing yr bets.

cheers.

win1win2
bets without fear many many winwinwins are here.

Thanks Win1Win2,

By looking at the shoe in this manner you are playing the shoes within the shoes and are looking for small advantage clusters(Strike while the iron is hot). These can be win streaks of 3,4,5 etc. How you decide to attack these advantages can and must be adjusted by each player. For example a cluster of 5 has a much higher risk reward than a cluster of 3.

You must understand that I am combining my ideas with Win's ideas in an attempt to build a winning thought process. He is much further along the path to becoming a true Master.

TGH

Some would say trying to make sense out if randomness is a waste of time. But in reality baccarat is a game of random events. The best way to gain an advantage is through proper betting strategy and money management. So would it not make since to look for trends, regardless of their mathematical probabilities, and grasp these trends with a short positive progression--flatbetting on losses and only advancing on wins? Oscars grind or possibly a very short positive Martingale? Is it not better to increase your bet while winning?

Common trends are bpb, bbpp, bbb,ppp, bbb. we should sieze on these.

Beware of "CASINO KILLER PATTERNS."

[ B P B PP B PP BBB P B PPP B P BB P B P ]

This type of patterns will slaughter most of the high rollers.

will lost 10% to progressionist. but will catch them with long steaks any moment




HOW TO use [COUNTER ATTACK] - play chop [flat - bet]

IF B P B PP...BET Bank increase yr bets
.
[B P B PP B] bet Player [ betting 2x2 PP BB NOT FAVOURABLE ]bec. last 2 "B' is single.

[B P B PP BB] lOST= "lose one hand increase" BET "player " ]
[Bec.. THE 3 FRONT BETS ARE CHOPS]


Keep betting this way "lose one hand increase" if "win drop back to flat bet."

[ B P B PP B PP B ] 'small increament" [ "p" is stronger,] hunt for 2 1 2 1 pattern,

[ B P B PP B PP B P ] WIN " DROP TO FLAT BET" [ trend of chop is stronger]

until u lose two hands in a row that is. PPP or BBB is seen. wait one hand.

if PPPP OR BBBB STOP RESTART .' BEST IS QUIT THIS SHOE'

This type of patterns is very common and alot of players will loss
[especial those using progression as pattern swing to long steaks any moment,]

Man this doesn't have to be so complicated...

B shows up a lot more than P. So why not just bet B a lot more often, and when you predict P coming, simply virtual bet it until you predict B coming back then bet it for real.

TheArchitect

Only a question-- if you were going to virtual bet as Architect suggests would it not be better to do so on Player as to avoid commission on Banker. In the long run banker has a statistical advantage, but in the short term there is no advantage to betting solely on banker.

TGH

Originally Posted by thegeorgiahurricane

Only a question-- if you were going to virtual bet as Architect suggests would it not be better to do so on Player as to avoid commission and Banker in the long run banker has a statistical advantage, but in the short term there is no advantage to betting banker blindly--even if betting virtual bets.

TGH

Banker still hits more often than Player... You are basically always betting blindly (especially if you're following some trend that really doesn't exist).

A lot of casinos will drop the change on commissions, so you could really be playing with a much better house edge than 1.06%. If you are able to reduce the commission with rounding down, the house edge drops on the Banker bet to only .60%.

If you count cards, then in the latter part of a shoe, you could have enough info to make more informed bets (esp. on player).

TheArchitect

Bottom line--each hand in baccarat is a seperate statistical event which has no bearing on the one before or the one after. Therefore trending like any and all other systems is an illusion.

However, if you are going to play baccarat and profit, which you can, you need some "system" or group of "systems" to help you rapidly make descisions.

The system should be simple enough so that you can remember it under pressure. Remember, when in a casino you are not in a static enviroment. You dont have all day to make your bets and decide your bet size. Dealers will be instructed to speed up play if they think you are using a system.

Now, having said that, trending is a method which is easily remembered under pressure as long as it is simple. At least for some. I will admit that people who are more mathmaticaly inclined may be more comfortable with number based systems simply because of right brain/left brain cognition. Some people are more objective in their thought. Others are more subjective.

Betting patterns such as Oscars grind or a progressive Martingale to three or four wins are acceptable money management plays. Again--these descisions depend on the player's risk/reward threshholds. You must always have an acceptable exit--no more than 20% of buy-in is advisable for loss and win. ex. buy-in 1000, max loss $200, max win $200.

And that's where discipline kicks in. Because without discipline--you don't need to be playing baccarat or any other casino game for you will soon be broke.

The system should be simple enough so that you can remember it under pressure.>>>>

Practice ,,,Practice and more Practice so u know what to do
with any conditions .

If betting on one side can winning try setup an online fun account.

if it wins proof it by yr account


My practice account is now 280000k

cheers
win1win2.

New practice account at black orchid started Sunday with 1000 at 3500 in eight partial shoes using trending and a 1, 1.5, 2 etc dalembert. Ive also probly tipped 500 in play money cuz the dealers are cute and friendly.