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    Default Zuan Xin's Baccarat Great Learning.

    What does the membership think of this method?

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    Default Re: Zuan Xin's Baccarat Great Learning.

    Never heard of it.

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    Default Re: Zuan Xin's Baccarat Great Learning.

    Can you possibly elaborate on what it is?

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    Default Re: Zuan Xin's Baccarat Great Learning.

    I was hoping you knew.

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    Default Re: Zuan Xin's Baccarat Great Learning.

    more info???
    tnx

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    Default Re: Zuan Xin's Baccarat Great Learning.

    For those of you who don't have any search engine on your computer or have never heard of Google, here's the link to that plan.

    I've seen this one before. Anybody want to guess who's selling a variation of it now?

    AD (no, it's not Ellis)


    Baccarat Great Learning | Macau ? ???
    Last edited by ADulay; 01-16-2010 at 07:25 PM. Reason: Grammar

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    Default Re: Zuan Xin's Baccarat Great Learning.

    So AD, can you give us the short version?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellis View Post
    So AD, can you give us the short version?
    The Cliff Notes version:

    1. Patterns are beautiful.

    2. See the patterns within the patterns.

    3. Bet against the "increasing improbability" of the shoe.

    4. Or, if you're not seeing any 1's, jump on a situation where a 1 should show up.

    5. Don't bet ties.

    6. And a bunch of mystical stuff.

    AD (I'll stick with what I've got, thank you)
    Last edited by ADulay; 01-16-2010 at 07:24 PM. Reason: Cliff Notes note!

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    Good grief! The guy is teaching people to play backwards. The same thing Patterson tried and failed. So who is selling their version? My money would be on L. Benson. That guy never had an original thought in his life.

    You'll definitely win some shoes that way but certainly not a majority. The majority keep right on doing what they've been doing. But is all SOUNDS good to an unsuspecting public.
    Last edited by Ellis; 01-17-2010 at 05:53 AM.

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    Default Re: Zuan Xin's Baccarat Great Learning.

    Has anyone looked at this or played this style since it was posted up?

    AD

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiMenosCor View Post
    Hello thegeorgiahurricane. Please check your PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by ADulay View Post
    Has anyone looked at this or played this style since it was posted up?

    AD
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    Default Re: Zuan Xin's Baccarat Great Learning.

    Most bac shoe examples are in Chinese.. tried several ways to run them thru online translators(pdf,Zoho conversion) but no luck. Seems to use other words as Bac jargon.. Like lighting vivd bonfires(triggers?)Xuxu Siyou,ox,bird sheep goat..The radials written in chinese look similar in the bac shoes.. most likely to describe the banker/player with nearly all shoes but thats about all i know about Chinese writing.anybody here can help interpet the examples?I.E. 8/8/8 and 9/9/9 shoes? thanks
    Last edited by pitty1; 04-09-2010 at 01:56 PM.

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    Actually there is nothing about how to play in those lessions. I don't have any idea of XuXu Siyou in lession 22. I think currently they are keeping others guessing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ayuinca View Post
    Actually there is nothing about how to play in those lessions. I don't have any idea of XuXu Siyou in lession 22. I think currently they are keeping others guessing.
    Xuxu Siyou means chart patterns like double bottom , head & shoulder in share trading. Zuan Xin's method is about maths. There is only one trend and that is maths.

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    Default Re: Zuan Xin's Baccarat Great Learning.

    Maybe i have to read all those lessions. I have not known what system he is bringing up to.

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    Default Re: Zuan Xin's Baccarat Great Learning.

    From what I've heard, but this could be wrong, he's betting catch up. He's betting all events below norm will catch up. This is true over many shoes but not in single shoes. Not enough time. Events below normal tend to go further below normal and events above normal tend to go further above normal. That's how you should bet. If you graph a bunch of shoes you'll quickly prove this to yourself. Event totals tend to move away from your 0 axis far more than they move toward 0 over the duration of single shoes.
    Don't argue with this until you have tried it for yourself. Try it and you'll soon see for yourself beyond all doubt.

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    Hi Guys,

    I would not waste my time on the website anymore as I think it is just a website trying to keep you logging on to search for the Baccarat Winning Strategies so that they can earn on readability besides promoting their Macau trip related products.

    There really is no any Baccarat winning strategies as claim for you to search for .....

    I was invited by PM to search for the Baccarat Winning Strategies in the website and then the PM communications just stop when I asked for the Winning Strategies.......

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    It's completely understandable that if a strategy does really work, people will not just give it away freely or sell it because there is no reason to do that. How much can you earn from selling? If it does work I guess the inventer will spend more time at casino to win instead of exposing his strategy; if it can hardly work then you will see it on sale...lol

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    Just wondering why it's so difficult to translate the shoes recorded in chinese.lookin for some cultural insights here..

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    Hi Pitty1,

    The Chinese wordings in that website does not mean anything to me as I am a Malaysian Chinese who knows Chinese well.

    I think those illogical Chinese wordings there were just to create website and product differentiation so that those who do not understand the wordings would feel that they are into something new and different.

    It is like creating a totally different gate to interest you to enter into and try to find the promised things that you would never find.....but helping the owner to be benefited by the hours spent there....Get it?

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    Hi JohnMalaysia...makes sense what ur saying..i used google translator on several chinese text with no problems. went bonkers on this stuff..Thanks for ur help..
    Last edited by pitty1; 04-12-2010 at 09:57 PM. Reason: got peanut butter stuck in keyboard

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    Quote Originally Posted by ayuinca View Post
    It's completely understandable that if a strategy does really work, people will not just give it away freely or sell it because there is no reason to do that. How much can you earn from selling? If it does work I guess the inventer will spend more time at casino to win instead of exposing his strategy; if it can hardly work then you will see it on sale...lol
    Key to winning is all about self and not so much about strategy. First knowledge, second come patience, third then comes bankroll (capital) fourth comes discipline, fifth comes maths. I place a bet only i have high chance of winning. Progression ,lower the house edge. Risk management and money management are key to winning.Do u have the patience to bet only 4 bets in 2 hrs. using Zuan Xin's great learning

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    Hi miketan.. 4 bets in 2 hrs..yeah sure i'd be tossin black chips out there for the wait.To know Xuxu Siyou ..ur tracking for 4 vivid ritual bonfires(patterns)?The ox,sheep,goat,bird (that the math that gives u a high probability of winning a particular bet on a pattern in ur favor)? Is it difficult to learn the Pattern of Patterns without knowing about these tracking features above? thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by pitty1 View Post
    Hi miketan.. 4 bets in 2 hrs..yeah sure i'd be tossin black chips out there for the wait.To know Xuxu Siyou ..ur tracking for 4 vivid ritual bonfires(patterns)?The ox,sheep,goat,bird (that the math that gives u a high probability of winning a particular bet on a pattern in ur favor)? Is it difficult to learn the Pattern of Patterns without knowing about these tracking features above? thanks
    There are 4 patterns in XuXu Siyou and there are likely 18 chances that it will light up in a shoe as explained by David the guru.Wait till the pattern reveal then place the bet.That is the key to winning . Be a player & not a gambler. To know the knowhow consult the guru in LV/LA. Whereas i am waiting for them to come to singapore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miketan View Post
    .Do u have the patience to bet only 4 bets in 2 hrs. using Zuan Xin's great learning
    I would if i was to win all 4 bets. Lose 3 to 4 bets in that 2 hrs, my patience probably would run dry.

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    Hi miketan..to know the knowhows...Do u play this way? or is the GURU comin out to teach ya? thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by pitty1 View Post
    Hi miketan..to know the knowhows...Do u play this way? or is the GURU comin out to teach ya? thanks
    I have bet with it many times. 1 hit is about 60% of the time, with 2 hits is about 27% of the time, 3 hits is about 5% of the time 4hits is about 5% of the time & 5 hits and above is about 3% of the time. But with 4 bets in 2 hrs 3 win & 1 loss. pretty high rate.
    Please manages with risk management. I bet with 2 progression only to preserve capital. sun tze says with strong enemy , we must hit and run.

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    Hi Miketan,,could u translate the shoe written in Chinese in lesson 19:Hongbo.. BGL.I have tried to contact David Sofer via email regarding shoe translations but no replies.Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by pitty1 View Post
    Hi Miketan,,could u translate the shoe written in Chinese in lesson 19:Hongbo.. BGL.I have tried to contact David Sofer via email regarding shoe translations but no replies.Thanks
    Lesson 19 can be bet by either lesson 1 to lesson 5. or Xuxu Siyou.Ox lits up 7 times, sheep & goat lit up 4 times and bird lits up 3 times.If i will to bet for this shoe.3 bets using lesson 1 to lesson 5 strategy, and no bet on Xuxu Siyou strategy. Using 7 shoes, meaning that the pattern will come out one time in 7 shoe as shown in the pattern of patterns chart.Good day. Remark:Lesson 1 to Lesson 5 teaches u how to track, use the same method.(Learn to fish and u will have fishes for your rest of your life, if i will to give u the fish, it's only good for a meal.) Alt. pay to learn from David .I have yet to attend the couse in singapore.

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    Have u track the lesson 19? Send it to me so that i can check it and explain to u about it ,and explain how i initiate the 3 bets.

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