Pitboss: I Beat Baccarat! (Free Strategy Here)

[df1969]

So you would go against baccarat statistics.

[john220903]

So you would go against baccarat statistics.

Yes

[df1969]

Has anybody figured out how to ease the pain of 4's?

I'm thinking:

If a 4 hits you're -3 down.......if you double bet on the other side you're either -5 or -1. Either way stop loss that shoe because the chance of another 4 streak is high.

so, maybe stop loss of -5 and stop win of +3.

I've also noticed that if 4 streak comes once it will repeat at some point at least one more time....might be good to stop and get out on the first 4 streak.

[Egalite]

I agree, but wouldn't you agree that:

b
b
b
b
statically will come up p next time?

Before any one can state what they will / should bet next, you have to answer the question, what did you bet prior and prior that. If you're on the streak from the second B, then stay on it, if not bet P, statistically it's 50/50 therefore you need to have more than one stab at it to get the statistics on your side.

Has anybody figured out how to ease the pain of 4's?

That would be easy, don't bet until they arrive.

[df1969]

I read somewhere that with each repeat the odds increase that the opposite side will hit.

For me when playing pit boss' system, most the time it chops back after 4 adding insult to the injury of a -3 by making it -4.

I'm going to watch the first 10 results and continue to play his system for now.

It just seems like it sails along for awhile good and then crashes multiple times close together.

"That would be easy, don't bet until they arrive."

I don't understand. Using pitboss's system how do you wait until "after" they arrive?

[Egalite]

I read somewhere that with each repeat the odds increase that the opposite side will hit.

Your odds don't increase, you are dealing with expectation and what is rare v's what is common. nothing more.

If you take the Zumma 72 book the streak distribution is;

Singles = 25%
2 series = 25% (so no value in betting against chops only)
3 series = 18.75% (not much value betting against 2's)
4 series = 12.5% (as you can see, better to bet against 3's than 2's)
5 series = 7.8% (marginally better to wait for streaks of 4)

I've more accurate figures but can't locate them at the moment. You definitely have to have more than one bite at the cherry if you want to play this way. However it appears it is wiser in the long term to bet FOLLOW.

Having analysed both the Zumma book, it is not really a good move to bet against any Banker streak, the best you can get is wait for a Banker streak of 6 (50.4%) and wait for a Player streak of 5 (54.6%). It is much better to jump on any Banker double (54%). But that the Zumma stats, at the tables expect the unexpected always.

[ldx]

This is a fantastic thread. I've learned a lot !

Thank you all

[Pitboss]

WOW!
Haven't been here in awhile, but I must say this forum has gotten very popular! Glad to see no system sellers on here

Update:

I have created a team of players that will 'scout' shoes on different tables and signal us when a shoe is favorable.

I must say that the 4 in a rows hurt. However, all of us real players know that in the gambling profession, losing is just part of the game. We have been able to overcome a few of those 4 in a rows by waiting....
I know, waiting?
yes waiting for shoes to hit that 4 in a row.

Based on personal experience only, 4 in a rows ( or more ) occur around 5 times per shoe. So by waiting for shoes to hit that number, no guarantee of course, we tilt the shoe to our favor. And begin our betting.
oh how I love the charts casinos provide.

Anyway, good luck all, and cheers from california!
Pitboss-

[tomla]

Glad to see your still around pitboss ,,,, gl on your play

[df1969]

WOW!
Haven't been here in awhile, but I must say this forum has gotten very popular! Glad to see no system sellers on here

Update:

I have created a team of players that will 'scout' shoes on different tables and signal us when a shoe is favorable.

I must say that the 4 in a rows hurt. However, all of us real players know that in the gambling profession, losing is just part of the game. We have been able to overcome a few of those 4 in a rows by waiting....
I know, waiting?
yes waiting for shoes to hit that 4 in a row.

Based on personal experience only, 4 in a rows ( or more ) occur around 5 times per shoe. So by waiting for shoes to hit that number, no guarantee of course, we tilt the shoe to our favor. And begin our betting.
oh how I love the charts casinos provide.

Anyway, good luck all, and cheers from california!
Pitboss-

So, you wait for 4 or more to happen 5 times and then begin betting? You probably miss playing a lot of shoes.

I got to where I was waiting for a 4 and then betting only to sw of +2, then waiting another 4 and betting until sw+2 for a sw +4 total. And...crrrraaassssshhh boom still happened.

If you're winning on baccarat, you must be psychic.

[hermes]

Pitboss, still working?
What would good progression do?
Cheers Hermes

[tomla]

ive tried it w a progression --its decent

[hermes]

Once I beat 2 bottles of Baccardi also. Ha, ha, ha...
It could be more rewarding with flat progression.
Hermes

[fauzy]

This is a fantastic thread. I've learned a lot !

Thank you all

You know a lot systems,but you do not win a lot. never got Holy grail.

[tomla]

i tried the pitboss theory 3x with a 10 step parlay progression ---tested ok on 50 shoes and won 3 sessions for me at the casino---i forget why i stopped playing it? probably got enamored with other stuff--oh well

[Pitboss]

Oh the insanity!

I forgot they send responses to email!

Tomla:

Waiting for 4 in a row is purely a suggestion. There's no way I could stand around waiting for 5. We do have a team now that will let us know about favorable shoes.

But look, I'm not selling anything, just trying to help out. Hope things get better for everyone on this forum.

Remember I dont sit at a losing table and believe me there are many. Stand up! You don't have to sit there and lose. I've walked being down only one unit after grinding to get to that point. I've walked down 3, the first 4 in a row.

The advantage we have against the casinos, is that we decide when to play and when to get up. If you don't bet it, you can't lose it.

Anyways, cheers from california!

Pitboss-

[aroach]

Ah yes, the stop-loss! Well the most I would allow myself to lose was 12 units. I believe it truly depends on your bankroll and the time it takes your fuse to ignite!!! Lol, I started with 20 units/$500, and stopped whenever I was down 8 units and move to another shoe. No sense in grinding out a bad shoe when there r so many good ones.

Can I use this strategy in an online casino with unlimited decks and is using auto-shuffle?

[Free]

Can I use this strategy in an online casino with unlimited decks and is using auto-shuffle?

Why do you continue to go to every thread asking this? You can do anything you want whether or not you'll win day after day is another matter. Seeing your novice questions leads me to believe you are going to lose. But everybody does at first. If you stay at it you'll eventually get better.

[aroach]

Why do you continue to go to every thread asking this? You can do anything you want whether or not you'll win day after day is another matter. Seeing your novice questions leads me to believe you are going to lose. But everybody does at first. If you stay at it you'll eventually get better.

This is because I don't know if these strategies can also be applied to online casinos. I'm not new to baccarat. I've been playing for 15 years in live casinos and now I wanna try online casinos. But you're right I'm losing, because if I'm not losing I'm winning.. Just like in baccarat, if it's not a player then it's a banker, if it's not one of the two, then it's a tie...

[thecomebackkid]

Be careful where you play online aroach!
Check all the terms and conditions first. Especially if you take any bonus cash!
I have tested over the last few days using several online casinos with live baccarat. Smartlivecasino don't ask you to register and there is no download required. You can just log on play for fun and get the feel of the place. They deal about every 30 seconds. Dublinbet are very much the same but you have to provide some of your details. These two in particular seem reputable as far as I can tell. The minimum bets are not too high either. I am going to have a game myself later this evening. Good luck to you.

[Free]

This is because I don't know if these strategies can also be applied to online casinos. I'm not new to baccarat. I've been playing for 15 years in live casinos and now I wanna try online casinos. But you're right I'm losing, because if I'm not losing I'm winning.. Just like in baccarat, if it's not a player then it's a banker, if it's not one of the two, then it's a tie...

If you haven't learned how to win after 15 years playing in real casinos what makes you think online casinos will be any different? Actually, I think when you say online casinos you mean playing against a RNG. That's even worse. Only play live dealer games, not RNG computer games.Do yourself a favor read almost everything here and learn how to win before you gamble anymore. I appreciate your honesty but holy crap 15 years of losing. How does one do that?

[aroach]

If you haven't learned how to win after 15 years playing in real casinos what makes you think online casinos will be any different? Actually, I think when you say online casinos you mean playing against a RNG. That's even worse. Only play live dealer games, not RNG computer games.Do yourself a favor read almost everything here and learn how to win before you gamble anymore. I appreciate your honesty but holy crap 15 years of losing. How does one do that?

LOL. It's not 15 yrs of continous losing streaks. If I can remember correctly, I have more winning sessions than the losing ones. The problem is when I win it's small, but when I lose, it's usually my winnings from the previous sessions plus my own money. I can control myself when winning- 8 to 10 units is enough for me. What I can't control is the losing part, I always end up going home with nothing.

[Egalite]

You need some mental reinforcement here. Remind yourself when losing, if you lose the lot, you have to put together another bankroll, if you leave the casino with something, you have part of the next bankroll.

[Free]

LOL. It's not 15 yrs of continous losing streaks. If I can remember correctly, I have more winning sessions than the losing ones. The problem is when I win it's small, but when I lose, it's usually my winnings from the previous sessions plus my own money. I can control myself when winning- 8 to 10 units is enough for me. What I can't control is the losing part, I always end up going home with nothing.

Ah ok gotcha. I miss understood you. Well I still say stay away from the RNG game at internet casinos. Live dealt games are a different manner all together.

And there isn't really a magical bet selection either. Its mostly just observation and bankroll MM.

[fauzy]

Sorry I haven't posted in awhile! However, there's a good reason!

I am currently +$15,000 since October.

I found the most important rule to remember is to GET UP!!!! LOL

Oh, and discipline to not EVER change this strategy.

It was very slow going at first---$100/hour/day. But I wanted to be sure that I could win consistently before I changed my playing time and unit dollar amount.

Well, enough small talk, here's what I did:

1) Waiting for a repeat of either P or B, otherwise known as "2 in a row". I started with a 1 unit bet that it would jump to the other side. So if 2 P's showed, I would bet 1 unit that a B would come next. win= +1 loss= -1

2) If a repeat went to 3 in a row, I bet 2 units that it would jump to the other side. win= +1 loss= -3

3) If a repeat went to 4 in a row, I bet 1 unit that it would repeat to 5. win= -2 loss= -4

4) If it did repeat to 5, I left 1 unit on the repeating side that it would go 6, and continue to let that 1 unit ride until the end of the repeat streak.(5,6,7,8,9,10....hit 18 B's in a row once! +11 units)OLD1,OLD2,FLD1FLD1.....1u

5) If the repeats did not go to 5, and jumped after 4, that repeat streak would result in a loss of 4 units. (that's the most you will ever lose in one repeat streak). I would then start over and wait for the "2 in a row" and begin with step 1.

THAT'S IT!!

For those of you that are reading this, you probably know about the basic mathematics behind Baccarat. You probably also know that this is the reason this system works! Grind + Time = Victory for US!!!

The most you press is to 2 units. (step 2)

From my playing time, I have encountered maybe 1 out of 10 shoes that resulted in a loss. Although those losses were very minimal.

I'm still using this strategy and hope to quit my job in January.

Hope this helps you guys out, thanks for reading!!!!

OH VERY IMPORTANT: +4 to +8 units per shoe/LEAVE!!/streak long is not included... This can happen immediately or you may have to grind it out. I experimented a few times with playing entire shoes and ended up anywhere from +1 to +10 units. But on average it's just not worth the time or risk. I mean a few times I won my 4 units in 3 mins. Lol. GET IN-GET OUT!!

the MM/wager is soft.1.2.1.1.....2s old.3s old.4s fld.5s fld....fld..good idea..wait for booming the streak and-4u(5s).. is easy to reach

[fauzy]

Sorry I haven't posted in awhile! However, there's a good reason!

I am currently +$15,000 since October.

I found the most important rule to remember is to GET UP!!!! LOL

Oh, and discipline to not EVER change this strategy.

It was very slow going at first---$100/hour/day. But I wanted to be sure that I could win consistently before I changed my playing time and unit dollar amount.

Well, enough small talk, here's what I did:

1) Waiting for a repeat of either P or B, otherwise known as "2 in a row". I started with a 1 unit bet that it would jump to the other side. So if 2 P's showed, I would bet 1 unit that a B would come next. win= +1 loss= -1

2) If a repeat went to 3 in a row, I bet 2 units that it would jump to the other side. win= +1 loss= -3

3) If a repeat went to 4 in a row, I bet 1 unit that it would repeat to 5. win= -2 loss= -4

4) If it did repeat to 5, I left 1 unit on the repeating side that it would go 6, and continue to let that 1 unit ride until the end of the repeat streak.(5,6,7,8,9,10....hit 18 B's in a row once! +11 units)OLD1,OLD2,FLD1FLD1.....1u

5) If the repeats did not go to 5, and jumped after 4, that repeat streak would result in a loss of 4 units. (that's the most you will ever lose in one repeat streak). I would then start over and wait for the "2 in a row" and begin with step 1.

THAT'S IT!!

For those of you that are reading this, you probably know about the basic mathematics behind Baccarat. You probably also know that this is the reason this system works! Grind + Time = Victory for US!!!

The most you press is to 2 units. (step 2)

From my playing time, I have encountered maybe 1 out of 10 shoes that resulted in a loss. Although those losses were very minimal.

I'm still using this strategy and hope to quit my job in January.

Hope this helps you guys out, thanks for reading!!!!

OH VERY IMPORTANT: +4 to +8 units per shoe/LEAVE!!/streak long is not included... This can happen immediately or you may have to grind it out. I experimented a few times with playing entire shoes and ended up anywhere from +1 to +10 units. But on average it's just not worth the time or risk. I mean a few times I won my 4 units in 3 mins. Lol. GET IN-GET OUT!!

the MM/wager is soft.1.2.1.1.....2s old.3s old.4s fld.5s fld....fld..good idea..wait for booming the streak and-4u(5s).. is easy to reach

[jiahor]

Good strategy , up for it

[Bobbybones]

Greetings All;
Has anyone ever tried just stopping after two losing bets and not switching? If PP shows, you bet 1 unit banker and lose. Your next bet is 2units Banker and lose. I'm suggesting perhaps you stop at this point and not switch and bet one on P and hope for a run. If I'm looking at this correctly you would need a run of 8 Player to break even for the string. If a run of 4 occurs 4 times you would save 4 units by not switching back.
Before I saw Pitboss's system I would start drooling if i walked up to a shoe and saw 4 Player hands in a row and immediately buy in and start a progression on Banker for 5 bets. Of course when it gets up to the ninth Player hand you are putting out a bunch of money to win 1 unit.

Great thread, any thoughts?

Thanx
Bones

[gerard711]

Greetings All;
Has anyone ever tried just stopping after two losing bets and not switching? If PP shows, you bet 1 unit banker and lose. Your next bet is 2units Banker and lose. I'm suggesting perhaps you stop at this point and not switch and bet one on P and hope for a run. If I'm looking at this correctly you would need a run of 8 Player to break even for the string. If a run of 4 occurs 4 times you would save 4 units by not switching back.
Before I saw Pitboss's system I would start drooling if i walked up to a shoe and saw 4 Player hands in a row and immediately buy in and start a progression on Banker for 5 bets. Of course when it gets up to the ninth Player hand you are putting out a bunch of money to win 1 unit.

Great thread, any thoughts?

Thanx
Bones

My thoughts on this was to : if you see PP you bet 1 unit on B if you loose you now have PPP wait out the next hand if its a P you now have PPPP then bet 3 units on B hoping it jumps you win 1 unit on 2's loose 1 unit on 3's win 2 units on 4's loose 4 units on 5 or mores

no more bets wait again for the next trigger

G

[Bobbybones]

Went to Casino yesterday. Played the system modified to quitting after 2 bets pp bet 1 unit lost ppp bet 2 units and stop, don't switch. Initally down 3 units made my way back to +4 units was going to quit but decided to sit awhile and watch when i realized it was 4p in a row. I was happy I stopped at my win goal as the 4p would have hurt. But my old sickness woke up and I Started chasing the Banker and Player went 9 times and I lost my entire bankroll chasing. I had $5 left from my 1G buy in to bet Banker one last time and it jumped after 9th P I won $4.75. Oh the humanity, If i ever chase Banker again I hope somebody will just shoot me and put me out of my misery.

However, I think this system will work, IF YOU CAN STICK TO YOUR PLAN.

Bones