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12-12-2009, 05:31 AM
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The Master Baccarat - Master Baccarat Do You Want US$ 500 per day?
by masterbaccarat on Dec.11, 2009, under The Master Baccarat
Seriously, if you really need to increase you chance to win, you need a formula to make it.
this formula needs only maximum 5 hours of your effort per day.
Master Baccarat is not about counting card, not about trend, and not about martingale neither progresive tactic.
Master baccarat is stake and money management.
you don’t need spesific skill to use this formula, take a look bellow :
sample #1 , Claim your win on purely random card dealing : Sample #2, you can win also on cold-blood blue dragon (many players fail onto it with martingale system) : Sample #3, yes.. same story on famously scariest Red Dragon! Sample #4, What about annoying-long Caterpillar? Oh yeeeaaah… that’s what I’m talking about.. gain your money on those cute caterpillars!
5. Sample #5, even this one!!
have you ever frustated on brickwall-card dealing like this?
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12-12-2009, 08:35 PM
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| | Re: Baccarat Master gain 500unit/day What about this one Ellis? Sounds a much better deal that what you can offer. | 
03-02-2010, 12:48 PM
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| | Re: Baccarat Master gain 500unit/day see what i mean? these system is definately used in asian casinos, it is called chase the dragon, but the enemy is 2s eg. ppbbppbb or bbppbbpp the reason why blue and red dragon was used to illustrate the effectiveness of chase the dragon. any other combination you win
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03-02-2010, 01:13 PM
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| | Re: Baccarat Master gain 500unit/day Can't believe this thread came back up again!
Anyway, those aren't particularly difficult "shoes" or shoe starts to beat.
Can anybody notice what key trend is NOT shown on those charts??
AD | 
03-02-2010, 02:38 PM
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| | Re: Baccarat Master gain 500unit/day Quote:
Originally Posted by joshky What about this one Ellis? Sounds a much better deal that what you can offer.  | Only if it wins. If it loses to the TTs its probably the 400 year old TB4L repackaged or similar. But I certainly would't trust a guy who merely demonstrates that he beats certain patterns that HE picks. You can do that with any system. How could you be so naive?
If its not a scam why does he make it LOOK like a scam? I've been seeing these things for 30 years. None have worked yet.
But try it and see. | 
03-02-2010, 02:43 PM
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| | Re: Baccarat Master gain 500unit/day I just looked at the patterns. RD1 kills all of those patterns too. Might even be RD1.
The only RD1 losing pattern is suspiciously missing.
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03-02-2010, 10:34 PM
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| | Re: Baccarat Master gain 500unit/day Well, I'm just a new guy here but it appears to be lacking in any run of three anywhere.
That would kill a lot of systems straight out. | 
03-04-2010, 02:16 PM
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| | Re: Baccarat Master gain 500unit/day Quote:
Originally Posted by ADulay Can't believe this thread came back up again!
Anyway, those aren't particularly difficult "shoes" or shoe starts to beat.
Can anybody notice what key trend is NOT shown on those charts??
AD | No they are not. The 2's are shown in the last losing shoe so it can't be those. The only thing that is missing that I noticed is any real dominant isolated singles.
But yeah, TBL wins all samples except the last one so. . .
I do wish I knew how to post graphics like that!
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03-04-2010, 05:42 PM
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| | Re: Baccarat Master gain 500unit/day I don't believe there's a three in that bunch anywhere.
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05-16-2010, 12:06 PM
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| | Re: Baccarat Master gain 500unit/day Quote:
Originally Posted by Justaplayer Well, I'm just a new guy here but it appears to be lacking in any run of three anywhere.
That would kill a lot of systems straight out. |
that's true, this system lack on "three only", but not much, if you get my point..
but yet, it's only about managing the risk you staked.
anyway, i'm just get back from my holiday, how you guys doing over here? | 
05-16-2010, 12:40 PM
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| | Re: Baccarat Master gain 500unit/day Some guys wants to know if it beats zummas?Looks like an on line program...What do u mean by rent? | 
05-16-2010, 02:25 PM
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| | Re: Baccarat Master gain 500unit/day Quote:
Originally Posted by pitty1 Some guys wants to know if it beats zummas?Looks like an on line program...What do u mean by rent? | sure ... sure.. you can test it, but then not in one shot one kill.
here is my rules of risk managing: - Divide your capital into 20 and that's equaly 5% for sure and you have to stick it only 5% risk of initial capital per shoe however it will be.
- Assume (on average) sum of three streak is 9 per shoe, so 9/72 = 12,5%. That's what you will lose for every shoe (on average).
- Here we have 100% - 12,5% = 87,5% of winning rate
- On every 5% of risk, you are expecting to have 1% of profit. But yet you have winning rate 87,5% : 12,5% isn't it? so that would be
(87,5% * 1 %) - (12,5% * 5%) = 0,025 % * Capital - In the long run, should you have 0,025% of profit per shoe
For example :
Initial capital : 20.000 usd
Risk per shoe : 5% * 20.000usd = 1000 usd
Expected Winning per shoe : 1% * 20.000 = 200 usd - Your losing expected per shoe = 5% * 20.000 usd * 12,5% = 125 usd
- Your winning expected per shoe = 1% * 20.000 usd * 87,5% = 175 usd
- Therefore your 175 usd - 125 usd = 50 usd profit expected on average
When you are in - average bad luck you will lose = 125 usd
- worse luck you will lose = 250 - 500 usd
- worst luck you lose = 500 - 1000 usd
- unbelievable worst luck, either a black cat running in front of you, or you are walking under a ladder, you will maximum lose = 1000 usd
- average good luck, you'll win = 175 usd
- better luck, you'll win = 500-1000 usd
- best luck, you'll win = 1000 - 2000 usd
- Very amazing unbelievable best luck, in case a 20-something streak occurs, you can win = 3000 usd even more...!!
And why you should divide your balance into 20?
It's something back up for the worst case, let's say if you play 10 shoes and you lose all the games worstly, those mean, in every shoe you lose 1000 usd. Then 10 shoes * 1000 usd = 10K usd.
This is the signal you to stop gambling and even you'll still have 50% of your initial capital.
Those called "don't risk everything beyond you can't afford to lose"
And if you follow all of my rules and you have a system like masterbaccarat which has 87,5% winning rate, are you still affraid to lose? | 
05-16-2010, 02:46 PM
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| | Re: Baccarat Master gain 500unit/day do investment, not gambling! | 
05-16-2010, 02:54 PM
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| | Re: Baccarat Master gain 500unit/day This is just embarrassing. Why are you renting now? No one wanted to pay $100,000?
LMAO | 
05-16-2010, 06:33 PM
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| | Re: Baccarat Master gain 500unit/day Thanks for explaining the foundations of ur system..reads like ur system pays alot of attention to ur banckroll rather than common shoe distribution.. | 
05-17-2010, 01:33 AM
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| | Re: Baccarat Master gain 500unit/day Quote:
Originally Posted by pitty1 Thanks for explaining the foundations of ur system..reads like ur system pays alot of attention to ur banckroll rather than common shoe distribution.. | indeed,
since you can not control the outcome, so the only thing you can do is control your stake and your bankroll (risk management), and so my system does it in the best way. | 
05-17-2010, 01:34 AM
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| | Re: Baccarat Master gain 500unit/day Quote:
Originally Posted by vbangle This is just embarrassing. Why are you renting now? No one wanted to pay $100,000?
LMAO |
so how much you eager to pay?
rent mean, you cannot have it your lifetime, it will limiting untill your winning target being achieved. since this program wheight as my life (7 years compiling) | 
05-17-2010, 04:51 AM
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| | Re: Baccarat Master gain 500unit/day Hi Guys,
I was one of the very first responded and registered twice to his website through his thread when it came out the last time but till today I have not received any reply yet as of today as promised in his website to reply by e-mail. No acknowledegment whatsoever either. I wonder why?
Who knows you may never get any reply like I did. But, it is all up to you!
I agree with Adulay and Uncle Ellis, those samples are really not difficult to beat with TBL, RD1, etc. On the last shoe, you simply change your system to follow the pattern and bet on 2's.
I think BTC offers much better deals and there are a few genuinely professional people there to help meeting your Baccarat needs. Especially, uncle Ellis whom I consider as the Father of Baccarat and the 'Jesus' of Baccarat world as he has been 'nailed' by those who do not like him.
In BTC, for just a little monthly subscription, you get a whole lots of winning knowledge in Baccarat plus personalized services. Oh yes, no agruments there, too! Wow, I love BTC!!! I love BF (Baccarat Forums) as well!!! You guys are great!!! We salute you all, worldwide!!!
Sorry guys, I am merely sharing what I think. No offence and no agrument, please. I am simply happy with BF and BTC and really appreciated them!!! | 
05-17-2010, 05:21 AM
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| | Re: Baccarat Master gain 500unit/day Well...i was going to let that slide, but, the Jesus of Baccarat? Unfreakin real. | 
05-17-2010, 05:59 AM
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| | Re: Baccarat Master gain 500unit/day Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnMalaysia Hi Guys,
I was one of the very first responded and registered twice to his website through his thread when it came out the last time but till today I have not received any reply yet as of today as promised in his website to reply by e-mail. No acknowledegment whatsoever either. I wonder why?
Who knows you may never get any reply like I did. But, it is all up to you!
I agree with Adulay and Uncle Ellis, those samples are really not difficult to beat with TBL, RD1, etc. On the last shoe, you simply change your system to follow the pattern and bet on 2's.
I think BTC offers much better deals and there are a few genuinely professional people there to help meeting your Baccarat needs. Especially, uncle Ellis whom I consider as the Father of Baccarat and the 'Jesus' of Baccarat world as he has been 'nailed' by those who do not like him.
In BTC, for just a little monthly subscription, you get a whole lots of winning knowledge in Baccarat plus personalized services. Oh yes, no agruments there, too! Wow, I love BTC!!! I love BF (Baccarat Forums) as well!!! You guys are great!!! We salute you all, worldwide!!!
Sorry guys, I am merely sharing what I think. No offence and no agrument, please. I am simply happy with BF and BTC and really appreciated them!!! | I'll check my email
i guess i missed something.. hmm.. | 
05-17-2010, 08:15 AM
| | BaccaratForums Member | | Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: E. Clifton Davis Location: AK Age: 70
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| | Re: Baccarat Master gain 500unit/day This sounds too much like our own basic system 40 at BTC to be anything else. Everything matches. And yes, when played in the standard way the culprit is 3's. (Very sharp of you guys who noticed that)
It wins a lot of shoes that way. (It got its name by winning 40 casino shoes in a row in public exhibition)
But we add a very important feature that improves it 100 fold. See, you can actually make the culprit anything you want very simply. If 3's are running above normal you definitely do not want to pick 3's as your culprit. Those would be the shoes you might lose playing in the standard way.
We use our SAP count to tell us at all times which is running lowest vs normal: 2s, 3s, or 4s. We make THAT the culprit and if it changes we change right with it. They can't ALL be running high. This makes it impossible to play against the most common event so you avoid all possibility of a catastrophic loss while greatly improving your overall win rate.
$100,000 for only the standard version? Yeah, its probably worth it for those who have $100,000 laying around.
At BTC, Sys 40 is included in your monthly membership or your lifetime membership at no additional charge.
Is it the Holy Grail of Baccarat? It has been called that by several members but NO, there is no Holy Grail. But it is an excellent way to win a lot of shoes W/O risk of catastrophic loss if you are one of those who prefer to learn only one way of playing. You have lots of company.
It is an extremely simple head free method of playing that yields about an 83% win rate with an avg win of 10 to 12 played 2 High and an avg loss of about -4. That is about the most conservative way of playing it, short of Flat bet, but you are free to choose any prog you want or even flat bet. That's about as close as you'll ever get to a holy grail. Yet many of our members prefer other BTC systems.
If that's a sales pitch, fine, I'm guilty as charged. But every word of it is true W/O exaggeration as my members here can attest. The thing is, how else would you know about it if I didn't tell you.
Jesus
P.S. For you sharpies who thought to ask: What if Ones are running lowest??? It doesn't matter. You beat ALL 1's regardless if they are running high, low or sporadic. On avg, 1's are half of all events in a shoe.
Or you could start tracking what happens surrounding ties or some other such idiotic nonsense. Rants and Baccarat don't mix.
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05-17-2010, 09:34 AM
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| | Re: Baccarat Master gain 500unit/day But no matter how good your system is there is one overriding prerequisite to winning. Self Control. Without it you are destined to lose. You are not playing against the casino. You are really playing against yourself, aren't you. You are your own worst enemy.
I haven't seen a lot of self control exhibited on this forum. Some of you strike me as the type that would fly on a rant and throw your chips at the dealer - the dumbest thing you could possibly do. Equal to raising your bet out of rage. You belong in a Hockey rink, not a casino.
FIRST learn Self Control. No system works without it.
Last edited by Ellis; 05-17-2010 at 09:40 AM.
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