New awesome system I am working on (neverdie14)

[bobamour]

Hi Neverdie14

I would be fascinated to hear how you are achieving these results. Please add me to your list

liz_is_one_fit_honey@hotmail.com

[sdf1492]

Well, I certainly don't want to be passed up either so please put me on your list to receive your method.

sdf1492@yahoo.com

Steve

[vdealer]

yes it does sound very interesting. please include me as well

vdealer1976@cableone.net

[votron15]

neverdie14, can you add me to your system, i don't want to miss out on this chance. votron15@gmail.com

[garnabby]

neverdie14,

If you're still out there...

I posted this over at HOLLY GRAIL by GENIUSLY - www.RouletteForum.net Roulette System Forum the other day in response to a (of course totally-useless roulette-numbers) system-seller only to have it removed by one of the moderators citing something about the poster's having complained about irrelevance. I still very much think it is relevant:

"On the six o'clock news (no less), a retired piano-teacher in Detroit who recently gave away ALL of several millions in lottery winnings to charities said, "A person can only eat so much and shit so many times a day."

Maybe then the "holy grail" is just also one of those things which loses its shine soon after?"

I did sense a little uneasiness in also that moderator's short reply (, also erased,) about at least having the opportunity to find out for one's self.

Besides also this thread in need of some real "jazzing up"... maybe there's a good lesson in that story for all of us here following "the piper". (Don't let the life you have pass you by by underestimating what you can do on your own... there's so much time for us all to work it out, whatever.)

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BTW, i also posted something about system-guarantees somewhere:

"Have any of the system-sellers ever guaranteed their "can't lose" systems by agreeing to stand good for any losses incurred by those? Like any truly-reasonable warranty. Eg, those "Uninterruptible Power Supplies" to keep our computers going long enough to propperly shut down shall guarantee up to so much damage otherwise.

At the very least, system-sellers should be paying us to test their (none-has-ever-worked-yet) stuff?"

[neverdie14]

Hey,

I don't even see how a "holy grail" system can even be developed for roulette. With every spin being totally human influenced random each spin. Totally dependent on the random strength output of the dealer spinning the ball and that spin's end result velocity.

Too random.

By the way, I've had unmatched success on my last trip. I encountered a shoe where my setup only showed up once, and it was a loss.

But the next shoe? I won 15 bets in a row. Setup came up 20 times, but I only bet 15 of them. The remaining 5 went 3-2 (win-loss). Amazing.

I don't know why this system works so well. Honestly, it is a combination of a mistake, a borrowed idea, and my personal creativity.

I will reveal the system this week.

I would suggest using a bankroll of at least $5k, and place $100 bets (using $25 for the table minimum "move the shoe bets"). I will teach you what to do to just move the shoe. It's best to try to find a table with frequent bettors, 1, so you can save money from having to place "move the shoe" bets. 2, so you don't draw too much attention when you win.

[gerard711]

Can you please take the time to add me to your list, Gerard711@aol.com Thanks

G711

[mumcg]

Please add me to your list as well. timn8@hotmail.com

[John1234]

Hey,

I don't even see how a "holy grail" system can even be developed for roulette. With every spin being totally human influenced random each spin. Totally dependent on the random strength output of the dealer spinning the ball and that spin's end result velocity.

Too random.

By the way, I've had unmatched success on my last trip. I encountered a shoe where my setup only showed up once, and it was a loss.

But the next shoe? I won 15 bets in a row. Setup came up 20 times, but I only bet 15 of them. The remaining 5 went 3-2 (win-loss). Amazing.

I don't know why this system works so well. Honestly, it is a combination of a mistake, a borrowed idea, and my personal creativity.

I will reveal the system this week.

I would suggest using a bankroll of at least $5k, and place $100 bets (using $25 for the table minimum "move the shoe bets"). I will teach you what to do to just move the shoe. It's best to try to find a table with frequent bettors, 1, so you can save money from having to place "move the shoe" bets. 2, so you don't draw too much attention when you win.

I agree with what you say about roulette. Quitting roulette was the best decision of my life. I can't wait for you to reveal your system. I keep checking this thread every day. I feel like i'm waiting for Santa Clause or something.

Why would you suggest using a bankroll of at least 5K? Is that because of the betting to move the shoe? I guess if you play online you wouldn't have to do betting to move the shoe.

anyway, Thanks for the update, I look forward to hearing about your system.

[tomddxx]

As a suggestion, you should consider playing with a partner and both bet
$ 100 on opposite P and B when there is no "real" bet. You will lose the B commission if B wins.

Then when the "real" bet shows up, then both bet $ 300 on the same "real" bet.

Of course you should try to sit out as many non "real" bets as possible. Why take a chance on paying B commission of $ 5 on a $ 100 bet if B wins ?

Also, since most bacc players are Asian, this partner method would work best with non Asian and Asian partners since the casino would not suspect you were partners.

It would also help if the Asian player would pretend not to speak English as this would make playing with a non Asian partner more believable if the non-Asian player could not speak Mandarin or Cantonese.

It would be hard for the casino to suspect that two players were partners if they can't speak each other's language.

Congrats to neverdie. I'm at tobqqa@yahoo.com when you
send out the method.

[MISSY]

Hi Everyone
We are new here tonight, a friend just told us about it and we are happy to be here. Been at this crazy game playing and inventing systems for over 11 years and come here on our knee's, head bent and hands folded LOL.
Hope we are not too late to get our hat thrown into the ring. Thanks so much for giving us hope once again. Hope we can repay in some way.
Our email is mrrlq@aol.com

[Pumpkin]

I'm not sure my pm went through, but would you please include me on your list. Thank you.
bayliss1912@yahoo.com

[natural9]

Just caught up with this thread am new here if you don t mind neverdie can you include me in your list for your method that may or may not be revealed tc
two40v@optusnet.com.au


Regards Rodney

[sniper]

Hello neverdie14,

I would really appreciate if you are kind enough to include me in your list. Thank you in advance. My email is sniper6138@yahoo.com

Regards

sniper

[ballinserpent]

Neverdie14,

i've been gettin my behind kicked around in bac for years, tried all kind of systems but always fail.

Very interested in your system, can you include me on your list.

ballinserpent@gmail.com

thanks a bunch in advance.

ballinserpent

[Grab The Gold]

Well Neverdie14,

All I can say is "Bravo!" If you believe you have happened into something that really does make a profit and NEVER progresses, then you have indeed stumbled onto something that most would agree is impossible! But I, like you, believe that ANYTHING is possible. What truly intriques me is that you said that you wait for a certain "condition" to arise befor going into action ... that sounds real interesting.

Anyway, I wish you the best in your TESTING Phase and will certainly look forward to hearing more about this "Method" in the near future. If possible, please include me in your updates as they ensue!

Go GET EM!

Grab the Gold

[ballinserpent]

neverdie14,

success over 85 shus is very impressive. i am a casino rat myself, only play bac. for over a few yrs, i started collecting actual shus and now has over 500 for data.

i would like to put your system against these shus of mine to see what the success rate would be.

perhaps i'll get on your list and be able to study your system soon.

ballinserpent

[Elvis]

hey little buddy,

sing me a song, but not the blues...

@ elvis.elvisthepelvis.presley.1@gmail.com

[malcop]

Now I don't want to get anyone too excited yet, but I believe I have created something that just may beat the game.

As skeptical I am, and as experienced and as intelligent I am in the odds and impossible chaotic nature of this "semi" random game baccarat, I think I just MAY have created a flat betting technique that wins.

I created a technique that has never lost one bet. Yes, I am serious. You wait for a certain situation to occur and then you bet and it has never lost.

It's something that occurs 3-10 times a shoe. I have been live testing it, and have tested it for 85 shoes so far. What I do, is bet the table minimum so I don't sit there and not bet (if no one else at the table will bet). And when my situation occurs I bet 3 black chips ($300).

I will not reveal it yet (which I will do so via e-mail), unless it wins for 300 more shoes. That is the only way I'll be convinced it has some merit. It has NEVER lost yet....85 shoes, 3-10 units per shoe. Yes, I am up a substantial amount of money, but, I want to wait and see if I don't give it all back from losses (house edge catching up to me) before I reveal it and waste everyone's time.

My son and his mother just went on a month vacation, so I have PLENTY of time to test this thing. I will try to play like 11 shoes a day if I can.

And I will NOT sell this system, I will just reveal it to a few people and that's it.

Selling a REAL working system is stupid honestly.

Hang tight. I'll post results once every few days.

So far, I am up 454 units after 85 shoes, at $100 a unit (remember, I bet $300 per bet, so I bet 3 units every time I bet). I NEVER progress.

Hi

Sounds intresting please add me to your list.

Thanks

Malcop

[luckybac7]

Neverdie,

I know everyone is just as excited as I am about you releasing your method of play this weekend!

I can hardly wait

[Time2Play]

Good day sir, just joined this forum today. Hope I'm not to late to be included in your "system release". Looks like you've put in lots of hard work... But I'm sure winning takes some of the sting away. Email is rowejesse@hotmail.com thanks again.

[Time2Play]

I forgot to include the system That I currently use... I call it guessing... It doesn't show the best results.

[chiptup]

Neverdie,
Your last post indicated that you would be revealing your system last week. What happened? There are many people, myself included, anxiously awaiting this. Any idea when you might be sharing this with us?
Chiptup

[LordMuffdive]

I got a new system that made 528,125 units this month and doesn't lose even 1 shoe . Are you pulling our legs Mr.Neverdie14? Seriously, i played baccarat for over 10 years and have tried and researched many systems aka "strategies". I like flat betting/small progression and use patience with my strategy.I had some success and some setbacks. If you aren't pulling our legs then accept my apology and please send your "system" to winitagain858@yahoo.com for me to take a look at/evaluate. Sorry for being so skeptical but as i was reading the posts it seems that you were leading us on.

[eirescott]

I can see why there are seperate private sections within this forum. If Neverdie has a system, then we need to wait. If he doesn't, then he clearly doesn't belong here IF he were "playing around."

On the other hand, to say that it looks suspicious that he has yet to reveal his system I would have to agree.

BUT, to attend the forum and suggest that he is "pulling our legs" with silly comments is really unnecessary.

I could NEVER take a member with a name like "LordMuffdive" seriously.

Member "Time2Play;" I see no benefit with your comment.

[LordMuffdive]

Eirescott what are you forum police? Honestly, if Mike deems it inappropriate he would have notified me so i don't need your preaching son. I was being sarcastic and was joking around if you re-read my post again and yes, you got the joke behind my name, very smart of you(serious). I was just calling neverdie14 out on it that's all and i said that i even apologized if i was mistaken and he was right. I don't want to ever hear from you again regarding this understand? I will deal with it when/if neverdie14 contacts me. Who the f--k are telling people their posts(time2play) don't help. I'm done with you.

[linksys01]

Hi Neverdie12
I am a newbie here, and would love to be added to your list
DC_Rockman@yahoo.com
Thanks

[gerard711]

not sure what happened to neverdie

[eirescott]

I got a new system that made 528,125 units this month and doesn't lose even 1 shoe . Are you pulling our legs Mr.Neverdie14? Seriously, i played baccarat for over 10 years and have tried and researched many systems aka "strategies". I like flat betting/small progression and use patience with my strategy.I had some success and some setbacks. If you aren't pulling our legs then accept my apology and please send your "system" to winitagain858@yahoo.com for me to take a look at/evaluate. Sorry for being so skeptical but as i was reading the posts it seems that you were leading us on.

When I am part of a forum that is - at least - trying to be amicable, I get sick - very quickly - of bashing. Whether it be in an indirect or humorous way, it makes no difference.

A thread doesn't need to be plugged-up with a load of cracks and jokes about a poster disappearing.

If the guy is a fraud, we will all find out soon enough.

I wouldn't have any problem with reading a post that suggested that this was all a scam.

I likely wouldn't have paid much attention to your jesting if I hadn't looked at your name and said "Right!"

If you work, do you walk into a meeting of businessmen/women and introduce yourself as LordMuffdive?

I am here to try to help others and perhaps gleen some insight. If we were to all meet at a conference - in person - and you arrived with this name labeled under "Hi - My Name Is" I wouldn't be too inclined to listen too you in an open manner.

I really don't give a shit if we never communicate again so don't believe I'm upset with your "we're done" statement.

I can assure you "I'm done" now that I have explained my reaction to your post for those who wish to decide for themselves what is appropriate.

[Mike]

Eirescott what are you forum police? Honestly, if Mike deems it inappropriate he would have notified me so i don't need your preaching son.

When I am part of a forum that is - at least - trying to be amicable, I get sick - very quickly - of bashing. Whether it be in an indirect or humorous way, it makes no difference.
(...)
I really don't give a shit if we never communicate again so don't believe I'm upset with your "we're done" statement. I can assure you "I'm done" now that I have explained my reaction to your post for those who wish to decide for themselves what is appropriate.

We're done with the bickering in this thread, move it to private messaging if you'd like to keep going at it.

As far as neverdie14, any one interested in getting in contact with him can private message him. I'll be closing this thread by the end of the week if there's no progress in this thread as I see no value in these "put me on the email list" type threads for the forum members.