New awesome system I am working on (neverdie14)

[COLINY]

Hi please tell me the systems being discussed could they be played on a live online casino YES or No .Thanks Colin yeoldcolin@aol.com

[neverdie14]

Alright!

Back from playing another 45 shoes. Made a total of 270 units, in atlantic city.

Before I go on, I would like to state two things. 1, I'm getting a lot of crazy pms, from people telling me dramatic events that happened in their life and their need to have an income source because of it. Relax! I am going to reveal my system to a limited amount of people (I have not hit that limit yet), and will reveal it to everyone who's contacted me. Their is no need to convince me, or tell me reasons why you need it. Just take it (when I reveal it) and use it for what you need it for!

2, I don't need any test shoes guys! I have been and only want to, test this system with LIVE results, that I actually play. There's no point in me testing on paper, as I won't make any money that way. Anytime I come back here to post results, they are live action results, not on paper.

I was only able to get in about 5-8 shoes a day. It was very tough to find seats, and when I got a seat, a lot of players took for ever to place their bets. I ended up having to create a newer small "move the shoe" system, so I can place very small bets to keep the dam shoe going.

I should be up more than 270 units, but a ton of units were eaten away by banker commission. These casinos outta offer commission free thursdays or something, as some sort of promotion. Haha.

Alright, so I'm going to up my unit size to $600 units instead of $300 units, and test another 120 shoes, then I'll feel confident to release it. Hang tight guys.

[neverdie14]

ND14,

why don't you ask or require an extensive "crash test" on Zumma1000 or anything else ?

A simple Excel macro could consolidate you in your advantage or stop your illusions.

Regards.

You know, GEOTT, I've heard of zumma and honestly, I trust my own LIVE results. I really don't trust anyone else's. I mean, people make mistakes. If I make a mistake, I can catch it. What's to say a large handful of those "zumma" shoes are not full of mistakes? You know. Like banker decisions recorded, by accident, when they were supposed to be player.

I also prefer not to test systems on paper. I'd rather do live testing, so, if they work, I will not miss out on the money I would make during the time it works. It's gutsy I know, but, what the hell, why not.

[John1234]

I was just in AC tonight playing poker. What casino do you go to? I have only played baccarat at tropicana but I am starting to dislike the trop and most of the AC casinos all together and most of the people there too. One time I was playing baccarat at the trop and there was a guy from brooklyn playing at my table, probably wasn't you though. He kept messing with some little old asian lady it was kind of funny.

It's nice to hear that your success has continued. I can't wait to hear what you are doing. Do you know that you can play live on Bet Phoenix. I don't know your feelings about playing online. I find it nice because sometimes it is hard to get to AC. Nothing beats getting to physically hold the chips, esp the black chips, but playing online has it's own benefits. For some reason they take USA players. I have been playing there for about 3 weeks and I have grown to like the software. It does a great job tracking the results.
I don't know if they pay yet. I am going to request a withdraw tomorrow because I got mad and head butted my computer so I need to buy a new screen. Just thought that I would let you know that there is an online live casino that accepts USA people. I still don't know how legit they are though, I guess I know if I get my withdraw.

[neverdie14]

I was just in AC tonight playing poker. What casino do you go to? I have only played baccarat at tropicana but I am starting to dislike the trop and most of the AC casinos all together and most of the people there too. One time I was playing baccarat at the trop and there was a guy from brooklyn playing at my table, probably wasn't you though. He kept messing with some little old asian lady it was kind of funny.

It's nice to hear that your success has continued. I can't wait to hear what you are doing. Do you know that you can play live on Bet Phoenix. I don't know your feelings about playing online. I find it nice because sometimes it is hard to get to AC. Nothing beats getting to physically hold the chips, esp the black chips, but playing online has it's own benefits. For some reason they take USA players. I have been playing there for about 3 weeks and I have grown to like the software. It does a great job tracking the results.
I don't know if they pay yet. I am going to request a withdraw tomorrow because I got mad and head butted my computer so I need to buy a new screen. Just thought that I would let you know that there is an online live casino that accepts USA people. I still don't know how legit they are though, I guess I know if I get my withdraw.

I usually play at showboat and trump. No that wasn't me.

I will try out that online casino as well.

[skithecrud]

Please send a copy when available to snowdog132002@yahoo.com. Thank you

[guest]

Have you tried your system with the Zumma book? Sure, that may not be a reliable way to check a system, but the data would be interesting.

[joshky]

Alright!

Back from playing another 45 shoes. Made a total of 270 units, in atlantic city.

Before I go on, I would like to state two things. 1, I'm getting a lot of crazy pms, from people telling me dramatic events that happened in their life and their need to have an income source because of it. Relax! I am going to reveal my system to a limited amount of people (I have not hit that limit yet), and will reveal it to everyone who's contacted me. Their is no need to convince me, or tell me reasons why you need it. Just take it (when I reveal it) and use it for what you need it for!

2, I don't need any test shoes guys! I have been and only want to, test this system with LIVE results, that I actually play. There's no point in me testing on paper, as I won't make any money that way. Anytime I come back here to post results, they are live action results, not on paper.

I was only able to get in about 5-8 shoes a day. It was very tough to find seats, and when I got a seat, a lot of players took for ever to place their bets. I ended up having to create a newer small "move the shoe" system, so I can place very small bets to keep the dam shoe going.

I should be up more than 270 units, but a ton of units were eaten away by banker commission. These casinos outta offer commission free thursdays or something, as some sort of promotion. Haha.

Alright, so I'm going to up my unit size to $600 units instead of $300 units, and test another 120 shoes, then I'll feel confident to release it. Hang tight guys.

Neverdie14,

Just curious, how long does it take to play 5-8 shoes in your parts?

Regards.

[texas117]

i would be interested in your system as well heguerra67@yahoo.com

[fatherfred]

I would appreciate if I could take a look at it as well.
colaiuta_84@hotmail.com

Regards

[neverdie14]

Have you tried your system with the Zumma book? Sure, that may not be a reliable way to check a system, but the data would be interesting.

Well, I prefer to test it live while playing. This way, I am actually making money while testing.



It takes about 3-4 hours sometimes to play 5-8 shoes. I've knocked out 12 shoes from 11am-6pm before.

[Mike]

As skeptical I am, and as experienced and as intelligent I am in the odds and impossible chaotic nature of this "semi" random game baccarat, I think I just MAY have created a flat betting technique that wins. I will not reveal it yet (which I will do so via e-mail)

Neverdie14, you're free to reveal the technique via this forum, private message or email, whichever you choose. However, I'd really recommend you use the Social Group section here if you'd like to reveal your technique to only a few people. Eirescott has had great success with his Working System Partnership social group, as has garnabby.

By using the Social Group function (read more about it here), you can create your own mini-forum within this forum and you can choose who can read your posts or not. You can check or uncheck "Users must join to view the content" (meaning no one but you and whoever you choose can read your posts), you can check or uncheck "Enable messages" (meaning if this is unchecked then only you can make posts in that group), you can choose Invite Only (meaning you personally have to invite them) or you can have it be Moderated (meaning they click the link asking to join and you can either accept them or reject them to join the group). You can be the only one to post in your social group or you can allow the social group members to post if you'd like. It's all under your control and the members of that social group get emails of any new posts in the group if they choose email notification.

For anyone else reading this, yes anyone that is a member of BaccaratForums.com can start their own Social Group and it's free.

For now, I'm moving this thread to Shooting the Breeze as we're not discussing any sort of baccarat strategy, reviews of techniques or casinos in here, just sign-ups to a list.

To start a Social Group, go to Community in the Task Bar, click Social Groups in the drop-down menu and then Create a New Group.

[John1234]

I usually play at showboat and trump. No that wasn't me.

I will try out that online casino as well.

I like the showboat. It is a nice casino, I have only played poker there though. I have never played at the trump. Seems nice though.

[bigbadjohn]

Neverdie14, please include me on your list, johnnysrb@hotmail.com

Regards, John

[nick64]

Hi neverdie14. My e-mail address is ngangadis@blueyonder.co.uk. I wish to be included in your sending list. Can you also let me know of your sending address so that I whitelist you?

Thanks in advance,
Nick.

[luckybac7]

Neverdie,

Sounds like your method is having great success. Any idea when you will release it?

Please add me to your list.

Thanks,
zanewilliams23@yahoo.com

[neverdie14]

Alright,

At mohegan sun, I came across 3 unusual shoes.

My setup came up more times than normal. I won more than usual. I won 30 units on each of those 3 shoes, BUT, had 2 loosing bets each shoe.

I'm not sure if that's bad thing. I have never won 30 units in any other shoes, but I did in those 3, and I have never lost a bet with this system, but, I lost 2 bets, each one of those 3 shoes. But, more units were won on those shoes loosing the 2 bets.

Hard to decipher that situation.

I should be revealing the system very soon.

[Turtleman]

I don't see how any system could possibly guarantee never losing, but it looks like you're still doing extremely well and I want to thank you for keeping us updated. Can't wait for you to reveal the system's details, and wishing you continued success!

[NaturalNines]

neverdie14, looks like you're onto something big. A flat bet strategy with no progressions? I would love to see it. Please add me to your list at easybreezy951@yahoo.com thanks in advance.

[chiptup]

Alright,

At mohegan sun, I came across 3 unusual shoes.

My setup came up more times than normal. I won more than usual. I won 30 units on each of those 3 shoes, BUT, had 2 loosing bets each shoe.

I'm not sure if that's bad thing. I have never won 30 units in any other shoes, but I did in those 3, and I have never lost a bet with this system, but, I lost 2 bets, each one of those 3 shoes. But, more units were won on those shoes loosing the 2 bets.

Hard to decipher that situation.

I should be revealing the system very soon.

Even with the losing bets, which was inevitable at some point, to net this amount flat betting is remarkable to say the least. Look forward to you releasing it.

[neverdie14]

I totally agree!

I mean, I will accept now that it DOES loose SOMETIMES.

I had another shoe, where the first 2 bets were losses,...and then, I won 7 straight bets.

I HAD to leave the table at that time, because it drew WAY too much attention.

[now here]

neverdie14

I am interested in your system.


Thankyou

[Winner Gary]

Well, I joined this forum to learn and expand.......might as well send one this way as well Win1Gary@aol.com

[kolokotronis]

Neverdie14,
Please add me to your distribution list at Dirtyharry@consolidated.net. Take a few lost bets in stride. Can you imagine a successful stock trader who never lost a trade? If your setups can consistently produce 6 or 7 wins out of ten, you will soon own the casino. If you are going to do all the heavy lifting, discovery, refinement, testing, risk and dilution, you should be compensated in some way by all your new best friends No upfront fee will allow all to access, then in good faith we kick something back as a thank you. I'll share a method or two i use to grind along looking for setups of my own. The area i frequent is Lake Charles, Louisiana, (L'auberge, Isle of Capri) and sometimes Harrah's in New Orleans. Tables get crowded, and it takes time for the dealers to pay all the players and figure commissions. Shoes can run over an hour.
Sincerely,
Kolokotronis

[ibtc]

Neverdie14, please include me on your list, 51tgfx@gmail.com
Regards

[NaturalNines]

Neverdie14, You have got me stumped because i reviewed most of the shoes that i have played over the last 2 months and i still can't see it. I guess you have the "magic eye" and think waaaay out the box which is a great thing, don't follow the losing crowd. I don't know if you play blackjack because there's a guy who developed a system (not card counting or progressive) that i learned that was pretty smart but netted small profits. You remind me of him, thinking out the box. Anyways, keep updating us. Thanks.

[hlkhoo]

Hi NeverDie14,
Appreciate if you could also add me in your distribution list. (hlkhoo@gmail.com).
Well, just in case you need some kinda simulation program in Excel,
I can help - no worries.

Thanks
HLKHOO

[leocon]

Hi Neverdie14,

Would love to hear about your new system when you release it and test it with my shoes. Email me at leocon@bigpond.net.au

Thanks.

[DirtyDragon]

Hi Neverdie14,
Would love to see how you nailed them...felixyz@gmail.com
Thx

[luckybac7]

Neverdie,

Have not heard the latest updates?

Are you still winning as hoped?

Thanks,
luckybac7