Anyone seen the Fisher Roulette system being sold by Silverthorne Publications? He Claims it "never loses" and can achieve the same results on Baccarat as well.

It sounds similar to Oscar's Grind. Based on the description and the claims made on the website it sounds completely bogus, just like every other website selling a progression system. Does anyone have more information about it? Has anyone used it?

Stanford Wong's BJ21 FMB website has this message on the top of page 1: Progressions do not give you an edge. He knows a thing or two. Of course, he is talking about blackjack, but the same math principle applies to all games of chance. This principle has been known for hundreds of years, and because the ignorant public pays no attention to the facts, casinos continue to win, year after year - according to their math house edge in the various games.

For those who want to know more, google Gamblers' Fallacy. But there are still many gamblers who believe they can come up with a progression system that wins consistently. The road to hell is littered with the bones of these gamblers. Nobody has achieved it yet, except for Fisher... Will you be the first in all of history? Good luck to all. You are gonna need it.

Yes, I have seen it, bought it, and got my refund. Does that tell you anything?

Yeah, I've seen it since my post, and know exactly what you're talking about. Not very impressive.

I got a refund too. You know, i am usually happy with my style of play and systems/methods i use, but slick marketing of a system tends to give me this itch i've got to scratch. Silverthorne does an ok job introducing a novice or layman to a game, giving some sound advice and pointers, but peddles risky systems that escalate bets on a cold streak to mind boggling levels. Can't win consistantly doing that. Good luck trying to reach their customer services or any of their "winning" players.