Thread: The "quack meter"...

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I can add a few more:

36. Claims to understand advanced mathematics and physics but can’t calculate simple coin toss examples. 1,000 points.

37. Describes his system using esoteric nonsense like “Let's assume there exists the quantum-relativity device already built into the fabric of space and time, to connect the ordered world of outcomes to the random state of guesses.” 200 points.

38. Claims to be a serious gambler but doesn’t know how to use the ROR calculator on this site. 500 points.

39. Hasn't read any of the relevent books on the subject. 200 points.

40. The poster replies with personal insults instead of answers. 200 points.

Originally Posted by garnabby

And what's up with your preoccupations with expertise and qualifications?

It has nothing to do with expertise, only basic competence. If someone is giving advice about baccarat then I expect them to at least understand the fundamentals of the game. If they claim to know about calculus, particle physics, fluid mechanics or gambling system development then they should know what they are talking about. You have talked about all of those things but I have serious doubts about your competency in any of them.

For example, you use 1.17% as the house edge for the banker bet instead of the traditional 1.06%. You said that the difference is that one formula ignores the ties, but clearly they both account for the probability of a tie in their calculations. There must be another reason for the difference. Can you explain the difference between those two numbers? Maybe it has something to do with using a different unit of measurement? And how would you use the 1.17% number to find out how much an average player would expect to lose after an hour of play?

I don’t think the questions can get any easier than this, although my coin/die/roulette question was incredibly simple and you completely avoided that one. I’ll make things more interesting and ask you how much you would bet on each of those three games (if you would bet on them at all).

So let’s see if you decide to answer this post with information or insults. I think I already know how this will end but maybe you will surprise me. It would be nice to get back to talking about gambling for a change.

Originally Posted by Savant

It has nothing to do with expertise, only basic competence. If someone is giving advice about baccarat then I expect them to at least understand the fundamentals of the game. If they claim to know about calculus, particle physics, fluid mechanics or gambling system development then they should know what they are talking about. You have talked about all of those things but I have serious doubts about your competency in any of them.

For example, you use 1.17% as the house edge for the banker bet instead of the traditional 1.06%. You said that the difference is that one formula ignores the ties, but clearly they both account for the probability of a tie in their calculations. There must be another reason for the difference. Can you explain the difference between those two numbers? Maybe it has something to do with using a different unit of measurement? And how would you use the 1.17% number to find out how much an average player would expect to lose after an hour of play?

I don’t think the questions can get any easier than this, although my coin/die/roulette question was incredibly simple and you completely avoided that one. I’ll make things more interesting and ask you how much you would bet on each of those three games (if you would bet on them at all).

So let’s see if you decide to answer this post with information or insults. I think I already know how this will end but maybe you will surprise me. It would be nice to get back to talking about gambling for a change.

Yeah, what a great idea. I'm butting in here, to interrupt World War III and get you guys to sign the Mutual Admiration Society leaflet enclosed, give each other a kiss, and get back on deck before the dam ship runs aground, while you two are rearranging your own deck chairs.

Have you checked out Betfair yet, on the latest thread? Look at their ZERO house edge figures and give us an in-depth, insightful opinion on whether we should go there for on-line baccarat or anything else. Distracted? Grrrreat.

That’s exactly the response I was expecting. I asked you some incredibly simple questions that would take about 10 minutes to answer and somehow you responded with a 2000+ word post that didn’t answer any of them. Then you had the audacity to complain about not having enough time to get things done! You even went off on irrelevant tangents by replying to an unrelated private message and re-posting an old discussion you had with someone else. You are so predictable it is scary. On top of that, amongst all your bungling, you gave incorrect numbers for the house edge and standard deviation. You just can’t seem to get anything right. You're a system developer who doesn't know the house edge and a gambler who doesn't know how to bet on a simple coin toss. You are really becoming quite a joke around here. If you could swallow your ego you might actually learn something from the other members here instead of running them off or barring them (like you did to me).

If anyone wants to hear the honest and accurate answers to my original questions (or corrections to garnabby's response above) I’ll be happy to post them upon request. It won’t be the first time I’ve had to pick up the pieces after one or garnabby’s broken posts. If nobody cares about the real answers, I guess this issue has come to an end.