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    Default Zumma System Tester Library on CD

    There is a new CD that is very useful if you play bac. It is the Zumma System Tester Library on CD. The company has put all their real casino decision system tester volumes for bac, mini-bac, craps, american roulette, and single zero roulette on one CD:

    The Zumma System Tester Library on CD

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    Default Re: New Valuable CD for Bac Players!

    They charge $100 for only 1,000 baccarat shoes and only 600 mimi-baccarat shoes? What a rip off! You can get them for free here (scroll down to the bottom of the page)

    Free Baccarat Shoes from The Wizard

    Better yet use a simulation program to test your system against millions of hands. That way you can test your system against the side bets as well. The results of 1,000 shoes will not be reliable enough to trust. I think they purposely gave only 1,000 shoes because they wanted people to think that their system worked in order to win the challenge.

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    If you don't test enough hands you might think that you have a winning system when in reality you just got lucky. Even worse you might think that your system is a loser but in reality you were just unlucky for those particular shoes.
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    Default Re: New Valuable CD for Bac Players!

    This guy doesn't know what he is talking about. The Zumma CD has all their system testers on it, mini-bac, big bac, craps, american roulette, single zero roulette...and they're ALL live casino recorded decisions (1000s and 1000s) not computer simulations. Computer simulations are not accurate...believe me after years of playing you will get whacked when you actually go to the casinos after playing computer simulations. Also, Zumma is offering their two best professional flat bet methods in book form with the Zumma System Tester Library CD plus free shipping in US and Canada. If you're serious about bac or trying to turn pro this CD is invaluable. Take a look Baccarat System Tester- baccarat tool 1000 Actual baccarat shoes shoes

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    Default Re: New Valuable CD for Bac Players!

    Computer simulations are used by every major company in the world, many branches of scientific research (such as economics, biochemistry, physics, aviation, structural engineering, law enforcement, telecommunications, and many more), all professional gamblers and even the casinos themselves. It is a completely valid testing method.

    Testing a system by hand for only 600-1000 shoes will give completely unreliable results, as I explaned above. It is not conclusive and you cannot be confident that such a small sample is not biased (perhaps in favor of the person selling the system?). It is a complete waste of time and, in this case, extra money. Save that $100 for something that will give you an advantage, not something that will leave you stranded.

    I have never met a single pro player who has even heard of the Zumma systems.

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    This guy knows nothing about the product..saying 1000 shoes for $100. I don't like it when a guy posts a lie about a product. The Zumma System Tester Library on CD and flat bet systems that go with it contain all the system testers for big bac, mini bac, craps, american roulette, and single zero roulette, we're talking thousands and thousands of real casino dealt decisions($99). Obviously this guy is a beginner. My guess is, he sells one of these little baccarat software games that are totally inaccurate if you really want to win. Google search Zumma Publishing or Zumma system testers and you'll get thousands and thousands of hits!! These books are the gold standard of the industry. Every legitimate system developer tests his product against these Zumma live data testers. Computer simulations are made off a random number generator in a computer... that is why they call if a simulation! Look
    BBBPBPBPPBBBBPPBPPPP ..looks like baccarat, it is not. I just made it up in my imagination. Baccarat is derived from complex dealing rules and shuffles which create unique random patterns that are baccarat. Craps decisions have a completely different set of random patterns. Professional players use only live data. Take it from someone who has done what most of you want to do... I 've made a lot of money for over 20 years playing professionally at the bac tables all over the world. If you need an elmer to turn you out, contact me. Docc In the mean time I highly recommend: Baccarat System Tester- baccarat tool 1000 Actual baccarat shoes shoes

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    Default Re: New Valuable CD for Bac Players!

    Complete lies. You are not a pro. None of the real pros have ever heard of you or your system. None of the real pros test their systems by hand for only 1,000 shoes. That would be a complete waste of time. Based on what you said I can see that you don’t know anything about computer simulations either. A simulation will follow the same rules and procedures that a live dealer does. It will deal the cards and make the decisions exactly the same way a dealer would. The results are completely accurate. They are even more accurate than your results because a sample of only 1,000 shoes is very likely to show a bias. Your results will make many winners think that they are losers, and many losers think that they are winners. Your testing system will not give accurate or conclusive results. That is a fact. You can argue all you want but you cannot disprove it. And the progression systems you are selling show further proof that you don’t know how to beat the game.

    I am not selling anything or promoting any product or service. I don’t need to because I make my money at the tables. I am offering my advice free of charge to anyone who wants to know the truth. I am not the one selling a useless testing system and useless progression betting systems. I have nothing to gain by exposing your lies. I only want to help people avoid scams like this so that they don’t waste their money.

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    Default Re: New Valuable CD for Bac Players! Zumma System Tester Library on CD

    I am not selling anything or promoting any product or service. I don’t need to because I make my money at the tables. I am offering my advice free
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    that's why my offer for all the community :


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