Share 1 Baccarat Method

[eirescott]

In this Shoe No.1, taken from the Zumma tester book, we observe the first decision being
a Banker without placing any bets.
In decision 2, we simply follow the last decision (as an exception to the overall rules).
We bet 1 unit on Banker and we win. Since this was a Banker win, we profit 0.95 units.
Now that we have 2 decisions, we can start applying the rules of the Kiss system.
Those 2 decisions are BB. The Detected Pattern column indicates a Streak. Therefore
we bet on the same as the last decision on our next bet – decision 3. We place 1 unit on
B and we win. We gain another 0.95 units, as the win was on a Banker bet again. The
net units go up to 1.9.
The Streak continues. We place our bets on B again for 1 unit in decision 4. We win
again. Another 0.95 unit profited.
The detected pattern shows a streak. We decide to bet on Banker on decision 5, but a P
comes up. We lose our bet.
Please note that our net profit doesn’t go down by 1 unit yet. The spreadsheet shows
only a 6-unit loss, should we lose 3 consecutive bets. Otherwise, a L W sequence is a
winning sequence, as we will see at our next decision. The proper commission is
accounted for, should we win our second bet and if that happens to be on a Banker.
Then the profit gained will be 0.90, since we would be winning 2 units on a Banker bet
(0.95 X 2). Similarly, an L L W sequence breaks even. However, if the third winning bet
is on a Banker, we pay a commission of 0.15 on a 3-unit win on a Banker. If the winning
bet is on a Player, naturally there is no commission.
After we lose our bet in decision 5, the detected pattern becomes a chop, since the last 2
decisions now are BP. We decide to bet on B in decision 6, being the opposite of the
last decision on a chop. We bet 2 units on B and we win. Paying the commission on 2
units having won on a Banker, our profit becomes 0.90 units for those 2 bets (LW).
The detected pattern is still a chop since the last 2 decisions were PB. So we go for a P
in decision 7. A B comes up and we lose.
The detected pattern indicates now a Streak, as the last 2 decisions are BB. We bet 2
units on B in decision 8 and we win. Again our profit is 0.90 due to the Banker win.
So far we are up by 4.65 units shown in Net Units.
We are still on a streak. We go for a B and we lose at decision 9.
Now we are on a chop. We go 2 units on a B and we lose again at decision 10.
Since the last 2 decisions were PP, we are on a streak, we bet 3 units on P at decision
11 and we win. Since the win was on a Player decision this time, we pay no
commissions and we break even at the result of a LLW sequence.
Our net remains 4.65 units.
We are still in Phase 1, by the way, as so far we haven’t lost for 3 consecutive bets yet.
The streak continues all the way to decision 16 and we keep betting 1 unit on P, winning
and increasing our net from 4.65 to 8.65.
In decision 16, the streak breaks with a B and we lose that bet. The pattern detector
shows a chop, so we bet on P on decision 17, but we lose that bet, too.
Now the pattern detector shows a streak, since the last decision repeated. We bet 3
units on B in decision 18 and we lose that bet, too.
Since we have lost 3 consecutive bets, this brings us to Phase 2. As you can see, the
pattern so far in decisions 14-18 was PPBBP, a typical 2-2-2. Now we bet 2 units on P
hoping that the 2-2-2 pattern will continue. Unfortunately, it does not continue. We lose
that 2-unit bet, too. Please note that the W/L column indicates a W for decision 19.
However, that refers to Phase 1. But we are in Phase 2, so that’s a loss for us. But that
W indicates that we are to go back to Phase 1, leave pattern 2-2-2 and continue betting

on streaks and chops.

So since the last decisions are now PB for decisions 18 and 19, and we are back to
Phase 1, this indicates a chop for us and we bet 1 unit on P in decision 20. But a B
comes up and we lose that bet.
Now we are on a streak. We bet 2 units on B in decision 21 and we win that bet, adding
0.90 units profit to our net.
Let’s now observe what happens in decisions 22-26. We encounter 3 consecutive losses
in decisions 22-24. The units indicator shows –6 and we go to Phase 2, where we follow
the 2-2-2 pattern by betting 2 units flat each time. The 2-2-2 pattern continues in
decision 25 giving us 2 unit profit on a Player decision. But it discontinues in decision 26
and we give back those 2 units. Now we are back to Phase 1, where a streak makes us
win the next two bets.
You should be getting the feel of the system by now.
You should note what happens in decisions 37-42. We lose 3 consecutive bets in
decisions 37-39. We step into Phase 2 and we win 2 bets of 2 units following the 2-2-2
pattern until we lose the bet in decision 42. We go back to Phase 1, and so on.
Remembering our money management strategy of quitting when we reach +12 units or
–6 units, whichever case occurs first. We were doing quite well with this shoe at the
beginning, reaching up to 8.65 units in decision 15. But since it did not reach +12 yet, we
kept playing. In decision 39 we reached –5.8 units and we have to quit the shoe at this
level, as this reached the loss limit we have set. One can decide of course to quit at
+8.65 if one knew that the shoe would drop to –6. However, since we could not have
known, we have to follow our strategy to the word. You will see however, that on the
longer run, you will win as many shoes as you will lose. And with the profit limit set to
+12, on a winning shoe, you will win twice as much as your losing shoe.

Now let’s take a look at the other 9 Zumma shoes and see what happens.

[eirescott]

Now that we have studied 10 sample shoes, which were not randomly but sequentially
selected from the Zumma tester book, we see that we win 50% of all shoes. We quit 5
shoes at about +12 and 5 at –6 units. The tester book contains 600 shoes and I have
tested most of them and I obtained the same results. Additionally I have tested the
system over thousands of simulated shoes, again with very similar results.
Since the system never bets more than 3 units maximum at a time, you can wager high
amounts without exceeding the table limit, once you accumulate sufficient bankroll and
you feel more comfortable with the system. In order to accumulate units, you can start
wagering with lower bets, such as $20 a unit and as you build a solid bankroll, you can
increase your betting units to $40, $60, $100 as much as one third of the maximum
betting limit.
Wagering $100 units, you would be quitting a winning shoe at +$1200 and a losing shoe
at -$600. If you play 20 shoes, you should be winning 10 shoes profiting $12,000 and
losing 10 shoes losing $6,000. This will profit you $6,000 for the 20 shoes. If you play 20
shoes in 2 days, you can reach a daily profit of $3,000.
Wishing you all the best with my Kiss – Baccarat system.

The Bonus KISS - BACCARAT SYSTEM

As promised, the Kiss – Baccarat system comes with a bonus system. The bonus
system is a derivative of the actual Kiss system and it’s even easier on your bankroll as
the highest betting amount never exceeds 2 units.
The bonus system is very similar to the original Kiss system and even further simplified.
It’s practically limited to Phase 1 only and does not go into Phase 2. Therefore, it does
not treat the Pattern 2-2-2, but avoids it.
In Phase 1, the 1,2,3 progression becomes a 2 step 1,2 progression. The major
difference is that if you lose 2 bets in a row, you don’t bet until a win occurs while staying
in Phase 1. This way instead of following a PPBBPP pattern (pattern 2-2-2) you simply
skip them as losing bets for Phase 1. The original Kiss system is very dynamic as it bets
on every bet. The bonus system has a few interruptions, during which losing bets for
Phase 1 are bypassed.
The result is a gradually winning system, stopping at 2 losses, limiting the losing run to 3
units only. A 5 unit per shoe winning limit and a –5 unit losing limit is adequate.
You will be winning more than half your shoes with this method. A 25 unit buy-in bankroll
and 50 unit lifetime bankroll are sufficient.

In order to best illustrate how the system works, we will study a typical sample shoe.

[eirescott]

Explanation

You sit at the Baccarat (or mini-Baccarat) table from the beginning of the shoe. You
don’t bet for the first 2 decisions. You observe them to be PP. The detected pattern is a
Streak. So you bet 1 unit on P in decision 3. You win the bet. You are up by 1 unit.
The Streak continues. You bet 1 unit on P again, but you lose. The pattern detector
shows now a chop because of the last 2 decisions being PB. So you bet 2 units on P to
follow the chop and you win. You have gained another unit.
Now the Chop continues. You bet 1 unit on B in decision 6, but you lose. The pattern
detector shows now a Streak. So you bet 2 units on P in decision 7 and you win. You
have gained another unit.
The Streak continues. You bet 1 unit on P in decision 8 and you win another unit. You
are up by 4 units so far.
The pattern detector indicates a Streak again. You bet 1 unit on P in decision 9, but you
lose. The pattern changes to Chop.
You bet 2 units on B and you lose again. This terminates this 2-step run. This brings
your net by 3 units lower from 4 to 1.
Now you won’t be placing any bets until you win on paper. Following Streak and Chop

patterns on paper, you will see that you will lose until decision 13. Those are indeed
Phase 2 or pattern 2-2-2 that you would be otherwise betting in the original Kiss system.
However, here, you simply skip them.
Once the win on paper occurred in decision 13, you join the game again. The pattern
detector shows a Streak as the last 2 decisions are PP. So you bet 1 unit on P and you win.
This streak continues until decision 16 until it’s broken and you lose your bet. You lose
your bet at decision 17 as well. Since this is your second lost bet, you stop betting until a
win occurs on paper. Your present balance is at 0.
The pattern 2-2-2 (PP BB PP, etc.) continues until decision 23 where it breaks. And you
have patiently been waiting for it to stop. At the original Kiss system, you would have
accumulated a few units during decisions 19-22, as those would have been winning bets
of Phase 2. But here, you simply wait until the Phase 1 losses stop at decision 23, where
the virtual win occurs.
Decision 23 shows a Chop and you join the game back again by betting 1 unit on P in
decision 24, where you win.
If you follow the sample run, you will see that you will win another 2 bets, then lose 2 and
stop until decision 30, then win 1 bet at decision 31, win the 2 steps at decisions 32-33,
win the bet at decision 34, then lose 2 bets at decisions 35-36.
You stop betting until the virtual win occurs at decision 41, thus avoiding a losing streak.
You join the game back in decision 42, where you catch a winning streak with a
sequence of Chops and quit the shoe at decision 47 at +5.65 units.
A bit slower than the original Kiss system, but a lot easier on the amount of bets you
place on the table.

Both systems are good. Use the one that suits you best.

That is it. There were a pile of charts showing the Zumma numbers and results, but copying them from ADOBE fails to include the chart itself. Not to mention the added writing that would take up twice as much space as this has already!

[Mikewin]

哈哈哈

[malcop]

Hi Eirescott,

I have the Kiss system but not the bonus system, so I thought I would give it a go.

I used a Simple Negative Progression.

Add 1 to previous bet after a loss, to eight levels with an extra 1 on the eight hand. A series of bets for eight losing hands looks like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9. When you win after starting the progression drop back by one unit increment.
After 2 wins in a row drop back by 2 unit increments.

If you lose at the 9 unit level exit the exit the shoe(session). The cost of 8 hands in a row is a risk of 37 units.

It's early days yet but so far the above progression with the bonus Kiss method, seems to be working out ok.

Once again Eirescott thanks for posting the Kiss bonus method.

I have to say I don't normaly like any kind of progresive betting but this is low risk compared to other progressions I have come accross in the past.

Thanks

Malcop

Explanation

You sit at the Baccarat (or mini-Baccarat) table from the beginning of the shoe. You
don’t bet for the first 2 decisions. You observe them to be PP. The detected pattern is a
Streak. So you bet 1 unit on P in decision 3. You win the bet. You are up by 1 unit.
The Streak continues. You bet 1 unit on P again, but you lose. The pattern detector
shows now a chop because of the last 2 decisions being PB. So you bet 2 units on P to
follow the chop and you win. You have gained another unit.
Now the Chop continues. You bet 1 unit on B in decision 6, but you lose. The pattern
detector shows now a Streak. So you bet 2 units on P in decision 7 and you win. You
have gained another unit.
The Streak continues. You bet 1 unit on P in decision 8 and you win another unit. You
are up by 4 units so far.
The pattern detector indicates a Streak again. You bet 1 unit on P in decision 9, but you
lose. The pattern changes to Chop.
You bet 2 units on B and you lose again. This terminates this 2-step run. This brings
your net by 3 units lower from 4 to 1.
Now you won’t be placing any bets until you win on paper. Following Streak and Chop

patterns on paper, you will see that you will lose until decision 13. Those are indeed
Phase 2 or pattern 2-2-2 that you would be otherwise betting in the original Kiss system.
However, here, you simply skip them.
Once the win on paper occurred in decision 13, you join the game again. The pattern
detector shows a Streak as the last 2 decisions are PP. So you bet 1 unit on P and you win.
This streak continues until decision 16 until it’s broken and you lose your bet. You lose
your bet at decision 17 as well. Since this is your second lost bet, you stop betting until a
win occurs on paper. Your present balance is at 0.
The pattern 2-2-2 (PP BB PP, etc.) continues until decision 23 where it breaks. And you
have patiently been waiting for it to stop. At the original Kiss system, you would have
accumulated a few units during decisions 19-22, as those would have been winning bets
of Phase 2. But here, you simply wait until the Phase 1 losses stop at decision 23, where
the virtual win occurs.
Decision 23 shows a Chop and you join the game back again by betting 1 unit on P in
decision 24, where you win.
If you follow the sample run, you will see that you will win another 2 bets, then lose 2 and
stop until decision 30, then win 1 bet at decision 31, win the 2 steps at decisions 32-33,
win the bet at decision 34, then lose 2 bets at decisions 35-36.
You stop betting until the virtual win occurs at decision 41, thus avoiding a losing streak.
You join the game back in decision 42, where you catch a winning streak with a
sequence of Chops and quit the shoe at decision 47 at +5.65 units.
A bit slower than the original Kiss system, but a lot easier on the amount of bets you
place on the table.

Both systems are good. Use the one that suits you best.

That is it. There were a pile of charts showing the Zumma numbers and results, but copying them from ADOBE fails to include the chart itself. Not to mention the added writing that would take up twice as much space as this has already!

[Mikewin]

Hello All

I am coming back.

here the testing of 48hands with 8 difference playing way.

Pls find attached file mikewin.jpg

Thanks

Mikewin

[pitty1]

Thanks mike for posting MWIN..can't say i completely follow the mechanics of the MM applied but it looks very expansive.. U say u play play this on live tables? look forward to read more post regarding theory and ops...Thanks again.Thanks for posting the kiss eirescott...but i think this MWIN method is completely different..and looks like he is pulling in a profit with it..

[LVDealer]

Hey Mike, how are your systems affected by the house edge?

He loses 1.06% of the amount on every Banker bet he places and 1.24% of the amount on every Player bet!

How do they compare to randomly adjusting your bets? Can you show some sort of correlation between your systems and a winning hand? I’m trying to understand how they work but I don’t see what they are supposed to accomplish. What is the theory behind them?

No theory whatsoever! Max lose of 380!? max win of 380!? Is this units? Even at $10 level that is $4k. You could play at least at $50 level using some of the other strategies posted in these forums with $4k!
Just curious: MikeWin, is spellcheck broken for you when you type in your posts?

[LVDealer]

Hello All

I am coming back.

here the testing of 48hands with 8 difference playing way.

Pls find attached file mikewin.jpg

Thanks

Mikewin

Great attachment! It would have looked perfect 15yrs ago on my 12" 640x480 monitor

[fauzy]

LETS MAKE IT 1,2 PPP,BP LW how !?

5 steps =32 combinations 6th steps 64 combinatios

[fauzy]

Rules

Phase 1:

-

Based on the last 2 decisions you bet following a streak (PP or BB), that is on the
same as the last decision or you bet following a chop (PB or BP), that is on the
opposite of the last decision using a 3 step progression 1,2,3.

-

If you win any of the bets within the 3 steps above, you repeat the above process

Phase 2:

-

Should you lose all 3 bets in Phase 1, this means that you are entering a 2-2-2
pattern. Then you keep betting 2 units flat, following PPBBPP, decision after
decision for as long as the pattern lasts.

-

At your first loss, you switch back to Phase 1 to follow a streak or a chop using
the 1,2,3 progression.

Money Management

On the long run, only 4 out of 32 or 12.5% of all 5-bet series will go into phase 2. That
means you will win 87.5% of all series already in Phase 1. In phase 2, if the 2-2-2
pattern continues, the 3 consecutively lost bets in phase 1 will be recovered, at times with
even additional profits. If it doesn’t continue at all, an 8 unit loss will be considered (6
units from LLL and 2 units from a discontinued 2-2-2) for that portion of our bets,
although during the previous and following stages, profits will be made from winning all
other patterns.
Long-term tests have shown that it is advantageous to set a +12 unit profit limit (AFTER
Banker bet commissions) and a –6 unit loss limit per shoe, whichever case happens first.
This way one wins 50% of all shoes played. Out of 100 shoes, for instance, one would
win 50 shoes and lose 50 shoes. This will result in +600 – 300 units or +300 for the 100
shoes or an average of 3 units per shoe.
This way you will also know that you are on a bad shoe right up front. And once you
reach –6 units, you can quit the shoe and join the next one, although the recovery
chances are not slim. However, if you have this strategy set up front, your –6 units will
also not become –26 units for that shoe. You would be limiting your losses greatly.
Customer feedback also suggested that if a shoe goes up to +10 units and starts going
down, it is recommended to lock your profit, by not giving up more than 50% of your win
at that point.
A 30-unit buy-in bankroll and a 60-unit lifetime bankroll should be sufficient for this
system.

Sample Runs

As sample runs, we will take the first 10 shoes of the Zumma Baccarat system tester: 72
Days at the Baccarat Table by Erick St. Germain.
First, some explanation on the contents of the columns of the spreadsheet.

The first column

Sequence is the decision number. If we are joining a shoe from its
beginning, we won’t be placing any bets on the very first bet in order to observe the
outcome. If you have to place a bet, then place a minimum bet on either Banker or
Player, so you will give the impression that you are participating.
Normally, we should not place any bets on the second bet either, since we need to see 2
decisions in order to decide where to bet on. However, again, if you have to place a bet,
just follow the last decision. If Banker, then bet on Banker. If Player, then bet on Player.
Normal play starts at Sequence 3.
The next column Player/Banker simply shows the outcome, the result of the bet, or the
decision.
The column Detected Pattern determines how to bet on your next bet. If Player or
Banker repeated for the last 2 decisions, it marks a Streak, meaning that you will be
betting on the same as the last decision on your next bet. If the last 2 decisions were
different, then it determines a chop pattern, meaning that you will bet on the opposite of
the last decision on your next bet.

Bet on

shows where to place your bet, depending on the Detected Pattern. Please note
that this is valid for Phase 1 only. If you have lost 3 consecutive bets, you are in Phase
2, following the 2-2-2 pattern and you would bet according to the next decision based on
what follows the patterns PPBBP (on P in this case) or BBPPB (on B in this case).

W/L

shows if you won (W) or lost (L) your bet. Again, this is valid for Phase 1 only. In
Phase 2, that is after you have lost 3 times in Phase 1, an L represents a win for the
pattern 2-2-2.

Phase 1 Count Consecutive Losses

counts the number of losses and will help you
identify if you are in Phase 1 or 2. If the count is less than or equal to 3, you are in Phase
1 and every win (W) shown in W/L reflects a true win. If the count is greater than 3, you
should know that you are in Phase 2; you are betting on the pattern 2-2-2 and every L
shown in W/L is actually a win of 2 units. So the greater this count is (as long as it is
more than 3) the better, as you will keep accumulating 2 units per bet.
When the count is 0, that means a win, if you were in Phase 1, or the end of Phase 2.
This is the time you switch back to Phase 1. This may look a bit confusing, but with a
little practice you will get a good feel of it. You just need to keep in mind that when the
count is greater than 3, a loss indicated in W/L is actually a win for you, since you are
now in Phase 2, until this count becomes a 0, meaning a win in Phase 1 (it doesn’t count

for Phase 1, since you are presently in Phase 2) and a loss on Pattern 2-2-2 and the time
to switch back to Phase 1 if you were in Phase 2.

Phase 1 Units

counts the units gained or lost during Phase 1 only. When the count
column is greater than 3, you are in Phase 2 and you will see that we write 0 under this
column.

Phase 1 Units after Commissions

simply calculates the profit left on your win, if your
winning bet was on a Banker bet and registers 95% of your unit value.

Phase 2 Units

accounts for your 2-unit profits, when you are in Phase 2 and are betting
following the 2-2-2 pattern. Please note that when the Phase 1 Count Consecutive
Losses is greater than 3, this is a winning bet for Phase 2 and thus the 2 unit profit is
registered. When the W/L turns into a W after the count being greater than 3, this is a
loss for Pattern 2 and therefore –2 units are registered and time to switch back to Phase
1 to follow a streak or a chop.

Phase 2 Units after Commissions

registers your true profit should you win on a Banker
bet, that is 95% of 2 units, or 1.9 units only for Phase 2.

Net Units

is the sum of your Phase 1 and Phase 2 units and shows where you stand at

any stage within the shoe.

lets make it ,2 steps 1,2 not 1,2,3 PPP,BP LW

[Mikewin]

Dear All

Just would like to repeat to make sure that I am not typing erro!

The MWIN METHOD STUDY ON THE FOLLOWING 4 POINT:

A. The method study only on baccarat table with 8deck card.
B. The Method play from the beginning hand number 1 until hand 48th in 1shoe of game.
C. The method limited the amount money lose/win ( lose max -380$ Vs win max +380$ ).
D. The method have many many ways to play depend on what ways we decide to pick to play.

AND BUILD ON 2 MAIN CONCEPT:

1. Money Management strategy. It allow limited amount money to play. There two way to control
2. Flexible tactic.

Thanks

Mikewin

[Mikewin]

Hi All

Another real live play shoe!

Mikewin

[joshky]

I am going to need a magnifying glass to look at that shoe closely. Anyway, you could enlarge it?

Thanks

[pitty1]

Hmmm..5 wins /4 loss..profit...i still don't get it...but keep it comin...thanks

[Mikewin]

Hi All

This new live shoe coming!

Hope all will see better as I enlarge 50%.

Thanks

Mikewin

[joshky]

Thanks Mikewin. Much more better. However, i don't understand what you are trying to share with us.

[Mikewin]

Hi Joshky

What did you not understand?

This is the result of 3 live table playing in 8 difference way ( MWIN METHOD ).

1. PBPB LOOP
2. PBPP LOOP
3. PBBP LOOP
4. PBBB LOOP
5. PPBB LOOP
6. PPBP LOOP
7. PPPB LOOP
8. PPPP LOOP

The betting amount base on mathematics calculation.

Amount win VS lose must be balance. For Example it means if you chose play PBPB LOOP THE OPPOSITE SIDE MUST BE BPBP, AND IF PBPB WIN 20USD THE OPPOSITE SIDE LOST 20USD.

Mikewin

[pitty1]

Forgive my grief but would this be similar to the point you are getting at?
8 deck ,autosuffle
B +10
P -10
B +10
B +10
play next 4 opposite.
B -10
B +10
B -10
P +10
play next 4 opposite
P +10
P +10
B -10
B +10
play next 4 opposite
P -10
B +10
P +10
P +10
play next 4 opposite
B +10
P +10
P -10
B +10
play next 4 opposite
P +10
P -10
B +10
P +10
play next 4 opposite
P -10
B +10
B -10
P -10
play next 4 opposite
B +10
B -10
B -10
B +10
play next 4 opposite
P +10
P +10
P +10
B -10
play next 4 opposite
B +10
B +10
B +10
B -10
play next 4 opposite
B -10
B -10
B -10
B -10
play next 4 opposite
B -10
P +10
P +10
P +10...
total.. win+20, win+40, win0, win+40...? just flat bets as example.. thanks

[Mikewin]

Hi Pitty1

That simple plate betting, I use to mention from previous in this thread.

Mikewin

[PoFoMoFo]

so, what method's the best??

[Mikewin]

Which method you wanna to compare???

Flate betting? As I said Flate betting just a simple way, but it works!!!!!

Mikewin

[Mikewin]

Hi all

Another result of live table shoe!

Mikewin

[vbangle]

Hi all

Another result of live table shoe!

Mikewin

I have no idea what Im looking at when you post your "shoes"

[Mikewin]

I have no idea what Im looking at when you post your "shoes"

I dont think I need to answer what you saying!

Mikewin

[Mikewin]

Sigh

[Mikewin]

Get Lost Especially Vbangle!

Mikewin

[vbangle]

What is wrong with you?

[scot]

Rules

Phase 1:

-

Based on the last 2 decisions you bet following a streak (PP or BB), that is on the
same as the last decision or you bet following a chop (PB or BP), that is on the
opposite of the last decision using a 3 step progression 1,2,3.

-

If you win any of the bets within the 3 steps above, you repeat the above process

Phase 2:

-

Should you lose all 3 bets in Phase 1, this means that you are entering a 2-2-2
pattern. Then you keep betting 2 units flat, following PPBBPP, decision after
decision for as long as the pattern lasts.

-

At your first loss, you switch back to Phase 1 to follow a streak or a chop using
the 1,2,3 progression.

Money Management

On the long run, only 4 out of 32 or 12.5% of all 5-bet series will go into phase 2. That
means you will win 87.5% of all series already in Phase 1. In phase 2, if the 2-2-2
pattern continues, the 3 consecutively lost bets in phase 1 will be recovered, at times with
even additional profits. If it doesn’t continue at all, an 8 unit loss will be considered (6
units from LLL and 2 units from a discontinued 2-2-2) for that portion of our bets,
although during the previous and following stages, profits will be made from winning all
other patterns.
Long-term tests have shown that it is advantageous to set a +12 unit profit limit (AFTER
Banker bet commissions) and a –6 unit loss limit per shoe, whichever case happens first.
This way one wins 50% of all shoes played. Out of 100 shoes, for instance, one would
win 50 shoes and lose 50 shoes. This will result in +600 – 300 units or +300 for the 100
shoes or an average of 3 units per shoe.
This way you will also know that you are on a bad shoe right up front. And once you
reach –6 units, you can quit the shoe and join the next one, although the recovery
chances are not slim. However, if you have this strategy set up front, your –6 units will
also not become –26 units for that shoe. You would be limiting your losses greatly.
Customer feedback also suggested that if a shoe goes up to +10 units and starts going
down, it is recommended to lock your profit, by not giving up more than 50% of your win
at that point.
A 30-unit buy-in bankroll and a 60-unit lifetime bankroll should be sufficient for this
system.

Sample Runs

As sample runs, we will take the first 10 shoes of the Zumma Baccarat system tester: 72
Days at the Baccarat Table by Erick St. Germain.
First, some explanation on the contents of the columns of the spreadsheet.

The first column

Sequence is the decision number. If we are joining a shoe from its
beginning, we won’t be placing any bets on the very first bet in order to observe the
outcome. If you have to place a bet, then place a minimum bet on either Banker or
Player, so you will give the impression that you are participating.
Normally, we should not place any bets on the second bet either, since we need to see 2
decisions in order to decide where to bet on. However, again, if you have to place a bet,
just follow the last decision. If Banker, then bet on Banker. If Player, then bet on Player.
Normal play starts at Sequence 3.
The next column Player/Banker simply shows the outcome, the result of the bet, or the
decision.
The column Detected Pattern determines how to bet on your next bet. If Player or
Banker repeated for the last 2 decisions, it marks a Streak, meaning that you will be
betting on the same as the last decision on your next bet. If the last 2 decisions were
different, then it determines a chop pattern, meaning that you will bet on the opposite of
the last decision on your next bet.

Bet on

shows where to place your bet, depending on the Detected Pattern. Please note
that this is valid for Phase 1 only. If you have lost 3 consecutive bets, you are in Phase
2, following the 2-2-2 pattern and you would bet according to the next decision based on
what follows the patterns PPBBP (on P in this case) or BBPPB (on B in this case).

W/L

shows if you won (W) or lost (L) your bet. Again, this is valid for Phase 1 only. In
Phase 2, that is after you have lost 3 times in Phase 1, an L represents a win for the
pattern 2-2-2.

Phase 1 Count Consecutive Losses

counts the number of losses and will help you
identify if you are in Phase 1 or 2. If the count is less than or equal to 3, you are in Phase
1 and every win (W) shown in W/L reflects a true win. If the count is greater than 3, you
should know that you are in Phase 2; you are betting on the pattern 2-2-2 and every L
shown in W/L is actually a win of 2 units. So the greater this count is (as long as it is
more than 3) the better, as you will keep accumulating 2 units per bet.
When the count is 0, that means a win, if you were in Phase 1, or the end of Phase 2.
This is the time you switch back to Phase 1. This may look a bit confusing, but with a
little practice you will get a good feel of it. You just need to keep in mind that when the
count is greater than 3, a loss indicated in W/L is actually a win for you, since you are
now in Phase 2, until this count becomes a 0, meaning a win in Phase 1 (it doesn’t count

for Phase 1, since you are presently in Phase 2) and a loss on Pattern 2-2-2 and the time
to switch back to Phase 1 if you were in Phase 2.

Phase 1 Units

counts the units gained or lost during Phase 1 only. When the count
column is greater than 3, you are in Phase 2 and you will see that we write 0 under this
column.

Phase 1 Units after Commissions

simply calculates the profit left on your win, if your
winning bet was on a Banker bet and registers 95% of your unit value.

Phase 2 Units

accounts for your 2-unit profits, when you are in Phase 2 and are betting
following the 2-2-2 pattern. Please note that when the Phase 1 Count Consecutive
Losses is greater than 3, this is a winning bet for Phase 2 and thus the 2 unit profit is
registered. When the W/L turns into a W after the count being greater than 3, this is a
loss for Pattern 2 and therefore –2 units are registered and time to switch back to Phase
1 to follow a streak or a chop.

Phase 2 Units after Commissions

registers your true profit should you win on a Banker
bet, that is 95% of 2 units, or 1.9 units only for Phase 2.

Net Units

is the sum of your Phase 1 and Phase 2 units and shows where you stand at

any stage within the shoe.

Sorry to say but it doesn't matter what MM you use, your best case scenario is ultimately a wash after many, many shoes - minus the 1% player/banker house odds.

Having a -6 S/L and 12 T/P, you will overall lose twice as many shoes as you win to break even - minus the house odds.

Multiplying your overall units played in 100 shoes by 1%, you will get your average units played per hand; and that is what you will also lose to the house per 100 hands played due to the house odds.
*100 hands to correlate with the percentage scale of 1-100%*

Example: 450 units in 100 hands played {450/100} will come out 4.5 units avg/hand in 100 hands, which is the same amount you will lose to the house odd per every 100 hands played. {450 x 1% = 4.5 units)

Or: 450 x 1.15%* will come out to 5.175 units loss per 100 hands played to be more specific.

*{Banker odd 1.06% + player odd 1.24% and divide that by 2 will equal 1.15%} (Banker and player will approximately come out to 50/50)

[Mikewin]

Suppose that there are 80hands play in a shoe of 8deck:


ThE KISS system : Phase 1 bet base on first 2 decision:

A. Start bet from hand 3 and suppose will win all in the first bet from No. 3 until to 80.
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80

So total win max 78 time=78units this will never happened.

B. Start bet from hand No. 3 if win in the second bet and suppose if win all in second the bet. The Number win point show below in red color. Total win max 39times=39units per shoe

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80

** The question is how many time that we suppose to win in the second bet? Do we have a chance to win max 39times?

C. Start bet from hand No. 3 if win in the third bet and suppose if win all in third bet. Win point is in blue color. BREAK EVEN. ( LOSE 5% OF EACH HAND IF WIN ON BANKER ).

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62
63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80

Continue

D. Start bet from hand 3 and suppose lose all in the third bet from. Lose point show in the red number color below. Max lose 26times=6*26=156units.

The probability lose total 26times per shoe=156units. So How many times that suppose to lose in among of 26times?


1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80

Suppose that there 4/26times so total amount lose 4*6=24units.
Suppose that there 5/26times so total amount lose 5*6=30units.
Suppose that there 6/26times so total amount lose 6*6=36units.
Suppose that there 7/26times so total amount lose 7*6=42units.
Suppose that there 8/26times so total amount lose 8*6=48units.
Suppose that there 9/26times so total amount lose 9*6=54units.
and so on.....

This is just idea for you all reference!

will be continue....

Mike win


Chance to win 6unit perday per shoe!!!
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
aim win 6units per shoe or per day need play 6hands if all play win in 6 first hands ( W )

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14
aim win 6units per shoe or per day need play 12hands if all play win 6times in second hands ( LW )

Who lost money and wanna to follow the lost use the progression system will never end, the more they follow the more they lose!

Mikewin